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and tried to stop it. the lies -- >> this election was stolen from you, from me, and from the country. >> if you ask how many republican congressmen believe donald trump was re-elected, i'd say maybe a couple. but 60% of our base does. >> conspiracy theories -- >> that could have been mickey mouse -- >> i'm watching going this is the craziest thing i've ever seen. and people bought it. lawsuits -- >> they try to not have your votes counted. they did not want your vote to count. >> potentially illegal pressure campaigns. >> i just want to find 11,780 votes. >> what he was asking for wasn't supported by the facts, wasn't supported by the constitution. >> extraordinary scheming. >> let's talk about -- >> just breathtaking that you would have laid out such a clear game plan that so clearly violated the constitution. >> and all too many in the republican party -- >> we believe this was a free and fair election. >> and maga media who followed along. >> unverifiable dumps of vote -- >> we will never give up, we will never concede. >> stop the steal! >> it all might have worked if not for a few people in key places. notably among them brave republicans. >> in the moments of truth, you need the right people to pass the most difficult tests. we had just enough people on january 6th pass the test. >> pursuant to the constitution and the laws of the united states -- >> do you think donald trump attempted to stage a coup? >> i don't know what you could call it other than a coup. >> i have real concerns about the future of this democracy. [ chants ] >> i'm deeply afraid for our country. >> tonight, a cnn special report -- "trumping democracy: an american coup." >> you'll never take back our country with weakness. you have to show strength. >> january 6th was the line that can't be crossed. january 6th was an unconstitutional attempt led by the president of the united states to overturn an american election and reinstall himself in power illegitimately. [ chants ] that's fallen nation territory, that's third world country territory. my family left cuba to avoid that fate. i will not let it happen here. >> that's republican congressman anthony gonzalez of ohio. >> i rise today in support of the cuban people -- >> grandson of an immigrant, he has a quintessentially american success story. a talented wide receiver who played three years for ohio state, five more in the nfl, and when injuries sidelined him, he got a business degree from stanford. all this before age 34 when gonzalez felt called to run for congress. >> i got into this because, look, my family came here from cuba, my father's family came here from cuba. we come from a country that has fallen. we come from a failed nation, and we've seen what happens when the rule of law is dismantled, when a strongman is allowed to take hold, and democratic norms cease to exist. >> now the conservative republican has a warning for all of us about what trump and his minions tried to do when they tried to steal the election. >> this country's been through a lot. we fought through it, and we've persevered. as much as i despise almost every policy of the biden administration, the country can survive a round of bad policy. the country can't survive torching the constitution. that's the one thing the country can't survive. >> it's going to be fraud all over the place. a rigged election. there's going to be fraud. >> donald trump's plan to undermine american democracy began months before the voting started. >> what's he going to do with these ballots? where are they going? >> with a return to lies he had been telling for years. in 2012 he tweeted, quote, more reports of voting machines switching romney votes to obama. pay close attention to the machines. don't let your vote be stolen. not true. in 2016, quote, ted cruz didn't win iowa, he stole it. not true. and this after he won the electoral college, hence the presidency in 2016. quote, i won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally. also not true. >> president trump started a commission to look for that in 2017. they could find nothing. they disbanded before they could even file a report. >> in 2020, mail-in ballots, which were going to be more prevalent because of the pandemic, became a perfect new foil for trump's old claim. >> voting by mail is wrought with fraud and abuse. when you do all mail-in voting ballots, you're asking for fraud. >> reporter: melissa farrah was the white house communications director for then-president trump from april through december 2020. >> we actually had to pull together a meeting in the oval to remind him that many of our voters, particularly senior citizens, were going to vote by mail, and that we were deterring people from turning out and from voting in the way that they would. >> all this caught the attention of congresswoman liz cheney. a rock red conservative and daughter of former vice president dick cheney. at the time, she was number three in house republican leadership, the conference chair. >> it concerned me because we wanted people to be able to vote as republicans. i wasn't concerned about it from a constitutional perspective at all. those concerns clearly came later on. >> millions of missing ballots -- >> cheney's constitutional concerns came about five weeks before election day. then president trump was asked if he would commit to a peaceful transfer of power -- >> win, lose, or draw in this election, will you commit here today for a peaceful transferral of power after the election? >> we're going to have to see what happens, you know that. i've been complaining very strongly about the ballots, and the ballots are a disaster. >> you tweeted a response to that. you wrote, "the peaceful transfer of power is enshrined in our constitution, america's lea swear an oath, " that suggests to me that you were worried. >> i was. there's a basic fundamental thing. every president really is responsible for safeguarding the peaceful transfer of power. >> we're going to have to see what happens -- >> so for president trump not to be willing to make that commitment was stunning. >> that was september, 2020, when donald trump also stunned republican al schmidt. >> we either need to get them on board or move the polling place. >> schmidt is one of three city commissioners philadelphia. his job is to oversee the city's elections. >> there was a big problem. in philadelphia they went in to watch, they were called poll watchers. they were thrown out. they weren't allowed to watch. you know why -- because bad things happen in philadelphia. bad things. >> so you're watching the debate, and president trump says bad things happen in philadelphia. what goes through your mind? >> i think i said out loud, "i see what you're doing." we had the sitting president trying to discredit the results coming from the city of philadelphia before a single vote was cast in the city. >> watch those ballots. i don't like it. thousands of ballots all over the country are being reported. some thrown in garbage cans with my name on them. did you see today there was a big mishap with the ballots, another one. >> not only was trump spreading distrust of the electoral process -- >> did you see they found 50,000 ballots in like a river? >> he was doing it in states such as pennsylvania and michigan where the margins were expected to be tight, and the wait for results was expected to be unusually long. >> in most of america there is a big traditional skew between early votes and election day votes. the republicans usually win election day, and the democrats usually win early voting and absentee voting. we've got all this vote in may is -- >> reporter: >> chris steirwalt was part of fox news decision desk -- >> do republicans do well enough to offset it? >> in 2020 the divide was expected to be more pronounced than usual because trump had been telling republicans not to trust mail-in ballots. this set the stage for what experts predicted would prompt misleading early vote counts. >> there may be what some folks call a red mir anage so that trump's votes may be highest election night and then the blue wave as more absentees come in that in the last couple of decades have come in overwhelmingly democrat. the big caveat is we've never had early voting like this. >> we all knew that some state were going to show him up, and then it was going to get closer. >> trump could be doing reasonably well on election night only to watch this thing shift over the coming days toward the democrats. >> did he not know that? >> no, he had been told that repeatedly, and he didn't care. he had decided before the summer, frankly, when it was clear that the pandemic was going to change the way by mail voting worked in a number of states and expanded, he started laying the groundwork for this can't be trusted. >> this is not right what they're doing, it is not right. >> everyone who followed the elections closely knew about this, but then -- >> breaking news, we got to talk about -- >> right before the actual election day, a convenient alternative explanation -- >> this project or this system called hammer -- >> a false conspiracy theory popped up in right-wing media. >> it's going to look good for president trump, but they're going to change. >> there would be many, many more conspiracy theories in the days ahead. >> voters are in the final hours of making a monumental decision for this country -- >> keeping an eye on voting under way across the country, especially in key battleground -- >> projects that president trump will win the state of florida. >> former president trump was in his residence. he had people coming up and down, but there were staffers, aides, friends, hangers on, all sorts of people in the east room, you know, munching on mini burgers. and celebrating what they believed once the state of florida was called for trump was going to be a repeat of 2016. >> a big win for president trump in florida. >> trump was in a decent mood until fox called arizona for biden. >> the fox news decision desk is calling arizona for joe biden. that is a big get for the biden campaign. >> he believed what he was being told by some advisers after he won florida which was this is looking good for us, this is looking just like 2016. these states that were supposed to go for biden are going for you. and then we got to the arizona call, and it all fell apart. >> it's a significant victory for joe biden, as i say the first flip of the night in the presidential race. >> the fox news decision desk made that call hours before the "associated press" and days before the major news networks. >> people were sending me what people were saying on social media, and it was this sort of, you know, psychotic murderous rage about us, and we don't do anything. we're just the weathermen. i'm just telling you where the storm is going. i don't make the weather. >> he started calling talent at fox and urging them to retract it. >> right, as though it was the call that made that true, not the votes that were cast. ♪ >> he had made up his mind weeks before that he was going to go to the podium if election night showed he was losing, and he was going to say he won. that's exactly what he did. >> this is a fraud on the american public. this is an embarrassment to our country. we were getting ready to win this election. frankly, we did win this election. [ cheers ] >> and then he said this -- >> we want all voting to stop. we don't want them to find any ballots at 4:00 in the morning and add them to the list, okay. [ applause ] >> but nobody was voting. they were just counting. the focus at this point was mostly on mail-in ballots. in 2020, more democrats voted this way than republicans. >> we were winning everything and all of a sudden it was just called off. >> what an ideal time to stop the counting if you're a republican president who wants to hold on to office no matter what the voters actually want. >> i've been saying this from the day i heard they were going to send out tens of millions of ballots. i said -- wealth is breaking ground on your biggest project yet. worth is giving the people who build it a solid foundation. wealth is shutting down the office for mike's retirement party. worth is giving the employee who spent half his life with you, the party of a lifetime. wealth is watching your business grow. worth is watching your employees grow with it. principal. for all it's worth. (burke) i've seen this movie before. (woman) you have? 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[ chants ] it was a circus. i mean, it really was lollapalooza for the alt-right. they were outside of the elections center which is -- i mean really off the beaten path. >> across the united states, local election officials were scrambling to get a record number of mail-in ballots counted. among them in philadelphia was al schmidt, one of three city commissioners and the only republican. he ran for office promising to protect election integrity. >> one of the things that i was involved in as part of the republican party in the city and republican party in the state was election integrity. since coming into office in 2012 i've referred more than two dozen cases for investigation to city, state, and federal law enforcement. our election operations were centered in the pennsylvania convention center in center city, philadelphia. there was one tv on that i happened to be walking past -- ♪ the president saying, why are they still counting? we already got the results. >> we're winning pennsylvania by a tremendous amount -- [ applause ] >> i want to be clear about what then-president trump was calling for. he wanted millions of americans to be disenfranchised -- >> cwhich is completely at odds with democracy. upsetting to see that. >> when half of your voters, 325,000 voters vote by mail it takes days to count all those ballots because you can't even begin processing the envelopes they came in until 7:00 on election morning. >> that's the law that the republicans made. >> that is the law the republicans made and refused to change. >> and this is a key point especially in pennsylvania. >> this is the most significant modernization of our elections code in decades. >> expanded vote-by-mail legislation had been passed before the pandemic in 2019 by the republican legislature. these were republican rules. >> the refusal to count those mail votes early and be prepared really hurt the country. if you can't get the ballots counted accurately, efficiently, expeditiously, you create this space. for trump and his squad and these goons to go out there and plant lies, to try to steal this election. >> we're going to prove to the american people that arizona is trump country. [ cheers ] >> it was happening most notably in swing states. in arizona, there was sharpie-gate. the trump campaign falsely alleged sharpie markers on the ballots made them unreadable by the counting machines. >> that was through the beginning of this -- let's start and throw, you know, chum out in the water for folks that want to try and overturn this election. >> in georgia, a big lie that spread on the internet was that this legal case of ballots was actually a secret suitcase of false biden votes being added to the count. >> i saw four suitcases come out from underneath the table. >> something the republican lieutenant governor jeff duncan and his colleagues looked into and found completely without merit. >> it was cut and spliced. to take the time to watch it from beginning to end there's a sequenced pattern that can be explained all the way through there. those weren't suitcases, those were actually preapproved cases already used all over the state. >> in philadelphia, trump did better than he had in 2016. better than romney in 2012 or mccain in 2008. he was losing pennsylvania because he did so much worse in the philadelphia suburbs. nonetheless, because trump decided discrediting big cities was going to be one of his false political attacks, in philadelphia trump's lawyers falsely claimed republican observers had been barred from the counting rooms. >> one of the attorneys for trump asks a judge, judge diamond, for an emergency order to stop the counting. and they're claiming that they had no people in the room. that's what they had been claiming outside the courtroom. but inside the courtroom, this trump lawyer concedes that there were a, quote, nonzero number of their own observers in the room. and essentially the case is laughed out of court. >> short of that lawyer lying to the judge and committing perjury, clearly went as far as he could. we had republican observers there every minute of every day that we were operating and counting votes right in front of us. >> despite the barrage from trump and his allies -- >> we will await more votes to come in to pennsylvania -- >> that counting ended quite momentously the saturday after the election. >> ultimately the final decision of this very long election week came down to philly. and after philly was decided and announced -- >> cnn projects joseph r. biden jr. is elected the 46th president of the united states. >> joe biden declared victory. what was that like? >> to have our voters' votes result in the election being called was an incredible thing to watch. [ cheers ] while all that is happening, we're also aware that rudy giuliani's coming to philadelphia. >> wow, what a beautiful day. thank you. >> going to the four seasons landscaping place to say that our voters' votes shouldn't be counted. >> i was about to bring up four seasons total landscaping. >> in philadelphia they keep the vote of dead people secret -- >> it was the most -- >> very suspect method of voting -- >> degrading -- >> there was no security, zero. >> pathetic -- >> people of this country have no assurance at all -- >> preposterous -- >> that those ballots were actually cast -- >> farcical moment in my view of this post-election day challenge of this all -- >> and appropriate. >> it would have had to have been unanimously cast for joe biden to catch up. >> they didn't want this at an industrial area across from a crematorium and next to a sex shop. >> and it was the day trump got the news he did not want to hear. >> he was told by two of his top political advisers that basically it was over, and he listened and decided that he wanted to keep fighting. >> so -- >> trump decided he wanted to put giuliani in charge, and that's exactly what he did. giuliani was willing to do what he wanted. >> and that is what led to this now-infamous press conference mid-november featuring rudy giuliani and another lawyer named sydney powell. >> the dominion voting systems were created in venezuela at the direction of hugo chavez to make sure he never lost an election. >> the only thing left is the vote. that could have been the same person 30 times. >> one of its most characteristic features is its ability to flip votes. >> thank you. >> ben ginsburg, the preeminent republican party election attorney who has battled with democrats on many recounts and recalls, was watching. >> when i first heard that press conference, i said, oh, my god, can that really be true? because if there was nothing there, they wouldn't just be making it up. and then they went through the entire press conference, and i sort of remember looking out the window and saying, they just made all that up. >> they did. this campaign memo from six days before the press conference first reported by "the new york times" says, "dominion has no company ties to venezuela. dominion and one of its former employees would later sue giuliani and powell for more than $1 billion. a court document filed by powell's lawyer said, quote, no reasonable person would conclude that the statements were truly statements of fact. someone should tell that to the republican national committee because they still have powell's lies in its social media feed. in a deposition for another related case, giuliani said he got his information about a former dominion employee having antifa ties from social media. >> those social media posts get all -- facebook, instagram, twitter -- >> social media postings -- >> or something else. i think it was facebook. >> he also admitted that he did not have the time, he said, to investigate the claims himself. alissa farrah was the white house communications director when all these lies were being fed to then-president trump. you saying that in november there seemed to be a tacit acknowledgment by the president that he lost, but then something changed. >> yeah. so something did change, and i think this was when the -- the more conspiracy theorist individuals started getting access to the president, the sydney powells, the mike lindells, michael flynns, and even steve bannon was in his ear. and it did take a turn. i think he believes it. >> this election was a fraud. >> the former president believes that he won the election. and that's scary, and the other thing, though, that your viewers need to know is the people around the president, the sane ones, know that he did not win. and they are lying to you, and they are lying to him when they suggest that the election was stolen. >> there were more than 60 lawsuits filed by the trump campaign or its supporters. they only prevailed in one case from pennsylvania, but the number of ballot affected was too small to change the results from the state. >> none of the claims he made were found merritorious by any court in any way that would have reversed the results of the election. >> georgia faced more than a dozen of these suits. >> many of these lawsuits, they just wanted to throw out the results and then have the general assembly pick their own set of electors. >> brad ravins burger, georgia's republican secretary of state, a conservative republican who supported trump and has fought with democrats on election issues, ordered a statewide hand count. that hand count confirmed there was no widespread fraud involved with the machine count. >> no, we never saw enough that would have turned the results of the election. we have about 250 investigations going on, but if you look at it, it's onesie, twosies, a couple people here, there doing something. it never added up to 12,000 votes. >> still, then-president trump hate tweeted about him, and both rafensperger and his wife were talented. >> people start threatening her, sending her sexualized texts. those kind. intimdations. >> bill gates got threats, too. so did commissioner al schmidt who testified about them in congress. >> tell the truth or your three kids will be fatally shot, included our address, included my children's names, included a picture of our home. cops can't help you. heads on spikes, treasonous schmidts. >> we've not had any sort of credible incidents raised to our level yet. >> there was an interesting timeline that started to happen, a pattern is probably a better way to put it. i would go on tv, i would speak the truth. if there's an issue, we want to make sure we understand it, investigate it -- and within minutes, he would send a tweet out that would say something derogatory or inflammatory. >> his latest target is the lieutenant governor, jeff duncan, quote, georgia lieutenant governor jeff duncan, georgia, is a rhino, never trumper too. dumb or corrupt to recognize massive evidence of fraud in georgia and should be replaguesed. >> and -- replaced. >> and me or my wife would get threats show up on our phone. like blood-curdling threats from just the most awful sounding individuals and deep meaning that would know things about you and your family, that they intensionally were trying to scare us and intimidate us. it was all to try to get us to sit down and be quiet. >> then-president trump wanted some republicans to sit down. others he invited to washington. >> he starts bringing in state legislators from pennsylvania, party leaders from michigan. >> uh-huh. he start having democrat in to the white house, yes, to visit with him. again, this is part of the sales job that he thinks he's doing. he's telling them that really he won and they ought to consider that, and they ought to consider how they submit electors and how they go ahead and certifying the election in their states, but none of them went along with it at the end of the day. [ chant ] >> biden had 61,000 votes -- >> in michigan despite losing to joe biden by more than 154,000 votes, trump waged a fierce fight to keep the result from being certified. [ chants ] it might have worked if one of the two republicans on the state canvassing board had not resisted intense pressure and voted with the democrats to certify. >> we must not attempt to exercise power we simply don't have. >> after that act of courage, state republicans replaced him on the board. it was all part of a presidential push for legislators to disenfranchise their own constituents based on lies. there was no credible evidence of widespread fraud. perhaps the president's most shocking push was in georgia. >> so then president trump asked governor kemp to call a special session of the legislature so the legislators could appoint their own electors instead of the ones for biden that the voters had picked. >> you play that out, and you disenfranchise 2.5 million people's votes in a state -- i don't care if they're ds or rs, we would have had rioting in every street, in every community. it would have been an absolute attack on democracy. >> a version of that, of course, came later. 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is the doj investigating? >> missing in action. can't tell you where they are. >> barr was investigating. >> bill barr issued a memo that told prosecutors around the country that they could take overt steps to look into allegations of fraud, something that the department traditionally didn't do until the votes were certified. it was absolutely seen as putting pressure on prosecutors around the country to at least say publicly or have signs that they were investigating voter fraud. bill barr was looking for it, and the truth was that it just wasn't there. and he eventually came to realize that. >> in an interview with the "associated press," barr publicly contradicted trump's baseless acertifications saying, quote, to date we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have affect aid different outcome in the election." >> the president is furious. he calls barr over to meet with him, and the two of them get into a shouting match. >> barr told trump they had looked into things trump was asked about, and there was nothing there. trump got very agitated. and barr kept saying, this is not real, sir. and at one point, barr described giuliani and his ilk as clowns, and trump sort of listened and said maybe, but he wouldn't get off of it. >> it was not just characters like rudy giuliani peddling the false claims, there were others stepping in to aid with the dirty work of trying to subvert the election. >> kent packston, the texas attorney general, big supporter of donald trump, brings a lawsuit arguing that the ballots from four states, pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin, and georgia, should be thrown out because those states had not followed their own laws in allowing mail-in balloting and in the way that they had carried out their elections. he was arguing that millions of ballots should be thrown out. >> reporter: the legal filing was so constitutionally unhinged and substantively bereft the texas solicitor general refused to allow his name on the suit. the suit cited a litany of convoluted and speculative allegations and some downright lies. >> it said that philadelphia's votes shouldn't be counted because it used domestic indian voting machines. philadelphia doesn't use dominion voting machines. basic facts like that. it was completely absurd to read. >> another absurdity, the lawsuit cited a statistical analysis that claimed the probability of biden winning those four states, quote, given president trump's early lead as of 3:00 a.m. on november 4th, 2020, is less than one in a quadrillion." >> for the vote to swing by as much as it did, it the probability of that in one state is one in one quadrillion, that's one, comma, 15 zeros, to happen in all four, one, comma, 15 zeros to the fourth power. >> it was nonsense, a lie. the analysis completely ignored what everyone including the trump campaign knew. because of vote by mail and when states counted early ballots, some states were going to show an early lead for trump that would not hold. despite the mendacity of the lawsuit, 17 other republican state attorneys general signed a legal brief backing it. an overwhelming number of house republicans were drawn into that effort, as well. at trump's request, congressman mike johnson of louisiana circulated an email to his republican colleagues asking them to sign on to the brief supporting paxton's lawsuit. >> as the amicus brief was being prepared, i was urging my colleague who was preparing the brief not to do it. >> i didn't sign it because i thought it was just wrong, frankly. and that's when i started getting some phone calls from people going, hey, wait a minute, aren't you going to fight this thing? this election was stolen. >> in the end, 126 house republicans signed their names to it. adam kinzinger, a republican congressman from illinois, did not. how many people that signed on to it do you think actually believed the nonsense in it? >> if i had to guess i'd say five to ten. >> i think there was a sense among those who did sign it, at least some of them, was sort of, well, we're going to do this to placate president trump. and i thought that was not doing our duty. kevin mccarthy told me directly that he wasn't going to sign it. i said, good, there is not a brief that we ought to be associated with. and a few hours later he signed it. >> the brief went out without kevin mccarthy's name, and the next day claiming that he was inadvertently left off, and he signed on to it. that was bad. he initially didn't want to sign it and realized what the pressure was. what you see there are people that sign on to something they don't believe to avoid political pressure. it's leaders that are afraid of their base and not leading their base. >> the supreme court declined to even hear the suit. >> a majority of house republicans, like two-thirds of them, literally saying i don't want any of the votes from pennsylvania, i don't want any of them to count, based on this lie. i mean, i'll just say for me personally, as a pennsylvanian, they were trying to disenfranchise my mom and dad based on lies. >> i don't know how everyone doesn't take that personally. they try to not have your votes counted. they did not want your vote to count based on nothing whatsoever. that is so mind bending and so difficult to comprehend. >> what's going to happen next presidential election? how many people are going to sign some brief that says overthrow this to the supreme court? that becomes the bottom-line standard. that happens every time in designees, and a lot of those -- d.c., and a lot of those standards were broken in this season. i'm worried we'll never get them back. >> up next, donald trump's phone call to the top election official in georgia. >> i just want to find 11,780 votes. >> was he telling him to break the law? >> it certainly felt like it. yes to new inventions! yes to clean and fresh ingredients! and yes to living life to the flavor-fullest. panera. live your yes. now $1 delivery. 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[ chants ] >> duncan found himself on the receiving end of republican fury. just like georgia's secretary of state brad raffensperger whose office was flooded with calls from voters urging him to change the results of the election. >> i want to talk to brad raffensperger. i want to talk to this piece of [ bleep ] for not [ bleep ] doing the right thing. this election was [ bleep ] stolen. >> we could feel the angst and the hate building in the air over nothing, over a mirage, over a shining object to deflect from the fact that donald trump had lost the election fair and squarely. >> you could have you could have very easily kept your mouth shut, not said anything, going looping. was this all worth it, putting it on the line for the truth? >> the answer is it was absolutely worth it. >> the lieutenant governor found himself among the few who would speak the truth, but he was not alone. disgusted by threats his election workers were getting from misled trump supporters, sterg also became a vocal critic of the public lies. >> i remember our warehouse manager at the center for elections was taking the trash out. all these people swarm around him with him you're going to prison, you're going to prison. he was a warehouse guy. nobody should have to go through in a. >> sterling gave a blistering warning directed at the most powerful man in the world. >> one of my friends called and said he's about to have a press conference. you might want to watch. >> mr. president, you've not condemned these actions or this language. this is elections. this is the backbone of democracy and all of you have not said a damn word are complicit in this. stapp conspireing for people to commit acts of violence. someone's going to get killed. >> he said everything i wanted to say. it was heartfelt. >> this is the backbone of elections. this stuff getting done. i'm doing something that's vitally important. i want all americans to count their vote. >> despite his pleas to tone down the rhetoric, president trump continued his pressure campaign. >> the governor could stop it very easily if he knew what the hell he was doing. he could stop it. >> days later he publicly excoriated georgia republican brian kemp for not helping him overturn the election, something kemp could not legally do and had no grounds to do. >> so far we haven't found people with the courage to do the right thing. >> he was calling us into question because we wouldn't lie to a national audience for donald trump. >> and donald trump leans on the elections investigator. >> the people are so angry about what happened. hundreds of thousands of votes. whatever you can do, frances, it would be -- it's a great thing, it's an important thing for the country. >> the surprising thing was how granular a level donald trump was actually personally engaged in overturning the election in georgia. we started hearing about phone calls he was making. we all hearded the 0-plus minute call with brad raffensperger. >> they voted in georgia but they were from out of state. >> that was just a complete disaster, an embarrassment to anybody that cares about democracy. >> after repeating a litany of false allegations trump said he was, quote, notifying georgia secretary of state raffensperger that in his view, the secretary was breaking the lieu by ignoring their false conspiracy theories. >> they're not reporting it. that's a criminal offense. and you know, you can't let that happen. that's a big risk to you. >> did you feel like he was threatening you? >> i think you could take that as a form of pressure. >> of everything he said to you on that call, what sticks to you the most. >> he continued to circle back on all i need is -- >> i just want to find 11,780 votes. >> he wanted us to go out and somehow find additional votes. we had all the ballots. those had been tabulated time and time again. >> did it feel like he was telling you to break the law? >> it sound like it. to hear a u.s. president having that type of conversation. >> there's no setting where that call is appropriate. >> what he was asking for wasn't something that was supported by state law, wasn't supported by the facts, wasn't supported by the constitution. >> that phone call is now key evidence in an investigation by prosecutors in georgia who are looking into whether donald trump broke if law in his efforts to overturn the election. >> good morning. >> but raffensperger steadfastness to the law notwithstanding, trump was not done in his efforts to overturn the election. ahead, a memo that could have destroyed democracy. >> it is a blueprint for how to ignore the vote of the people. d. or judge him by his jacket. while ted's eyes are on the road, his heart stays home. he's got gloria, and 10 grand-babies, to prove it. but his back made weekend rides tough, so ted called on the card that's even tougher. and the medicare coverage trusted by more doctors. medicare from blue cross blue shield. by your side, no matter what. that's the benefit of blue. find your local blue cross and blue shield plan at benefitofblue.com ♪ ♪ ♪ finding your new favorite spot? 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>> he said a version of it on news max. >> we've done martial law has beenble imposed 64 times. >> we don't have the authority to do this. >> trump was convinced to pass on that idea but he became fixated on a new one, derailing the certification of electoral votes. >> once trump realizes that the fraud claims are going nowhere, he now has a new plan, which is for there to be enough doubt that he could maybe persuade some of these states, conservative states to send a separate set of electors. >> on december 19th trump sent his first tweet encouraging his supporters to come to washington on january 6 to protest the election results at a rally organized by a group called women for america first. that organization had become the de facto force for the false fraud claims after the election. even taking a bus tour across the country, trying to sway members of congress to object to the election results. while women of america pushed, the president continued his assault on democracy in the nation's capital. >> the attorney general of the united states, bill barr, is leaving the administration. >> thus began a new near daily pressure campaign on the department of justice. according to a sweeping report from the democrats on the senate judiciary committee, based on interviews with trump's top officials at the justice department jeffrey rosen and richard donahue, trump asked the doj to undermine the outcome of the election. he did so nine times. and as chief of staff mark meadows broke with policy and pressured the doj to look into election fraud claims. >> the wildest theory was this thing called italygate. mark meadows sent an e-mail to acting attorney general at the time asking him to look into this theory that there was some italian contractor who was using satellites to change vote tallies on machines, voting machines in the united states. >> on a december 27th call with the new acting attorney general jeffrey rosen, trump pushed him to, quote, just say that the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressmen. >> trump knows that if the justice department goes out and raises questions about corruption or fraud, just saying that they're investigating it or looking into it, that allows republican congressmen to go out there and do the rest of the work, and put the pressure on the states to start their own audits and again gives him room to operate between then and january 6th. >> the whole notion behind it was trump and his supporters saying don't worry about it, we're going make it up, don't pay attention to the facts, don't pay attention to the law, we're just going to make it up and forge ahead. >> trump continued to press rosen saying this was an illegal election. and trump told rosen the doj was failing to respond to reports of crime. >> rosen stood firm on this call, saying there's not much the justice department could do. >> trump also plotted with another justice department official jeffrey clark to oust the acting attorney general after rosen's repeated refusals to go along with trump's fraud lebts allegations. but that scheme immoded on january 3rd. >> this was a scene straight out of apprentice. trump has rosen and clark vie for the job of attorney general of the united states, and the president is told that if he replaces rosen with clark, there are going to be huge consequences, number of top officials at the justice department were going to resign, there were probably going to be hundreds of other resignations, political appointees across the country as a result of this. it was a murder/suicide pact is the way this was described during this meeting. >> trump abandoned the plot. he then pinned his hopes to overturn the election on mike pence based on a legal memo. let's talk about the eastman memo. what was your reaction when you first heard about it? >> just breath taking that you would have laid out such a clear game plan that so clearly violated the constitution. >> the eastman memo detailed the six step plan for pence to throw the election to trump during the januaryth certification. it called for pence to throw out all electors from seven states and gavel president trump as reelectricitied. eastman has since tried to publicly downplay it. he told a very different story in recent undercover video from a progressive activist. >> 300 legislators on january 2nd, and they all and he didn't do anything. >> and appearances in past right wing media. >> are we to assume that this is going to be a climactic battle that's going to take place this week? >> i think that depends on the spine of those involved. >> would you be -- that's a nice way to say a guy like mike pence? >> yes. >> this level of corruption can't be allowed to stand. i think that makes the exercise of the vice president's power here very compelling. >> it's quite dangerous. it is a blueprint for how to ignore the vote of the people that would have cast aside all the legal foundations on which the country and the democracy is based. >> the foundations are laid out in the u.s. constitution, specific section i article 2. state electors made a list of who they voted for. it's signed and sealed and sent. the president of the senate, who is the vice president, opens all the certificates in front of the house and senate. the results are counted and the person with the most votes is president. nowhere does its say that the vice president can reverse the will of the people because of some made-up story about why it's election fraud, and yet that is what president trump wanted to occur. >> publicly pence raised the hopes of supporters, telling one georgia rally. >> we'll have our day in congress. we'll hear the objections. we'll hear the evidence. >> pence reached out to others to see if there was some way he could carry out this unconstitutional move, including according to washington post journalist bob woodward and robert costa, former vice president and fellow hoosier, dan quayle. also reported by woodward and costa was steve bannon's role in pushing the plan. on a phone call with the president bannon said you've got to call poens and get him back here today. we're going to bury biden on january 6th, fing bury them. >> he has decided that he can't -- he doesn't have the power that the president says he has, and trump turns on him. yells at him, says that essentially he has betrayed him and the meeting doesn't end very well between the two men. >> but that did not stop the president from publicly pressuring the vice president on twitter ahead of the certification. >> up next -- >> we were on a conference call and i told kevin mccarthy, when people are convinced that the election was stolen and there's a route out, there's going to be violence. his response was simply "operator, next call." ♪ ♪ we're inspired by you. with clean, fresh ingredients, panera's new chicken sausage and pepperoni flatbread is a mouthwatering explosion of yes. craft? 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start taking down names and kicking ass. let's have trial by combat. >> but as he put the marquee speaker was the president himself. >> president donald j. trump. >> meanwhile inside the chambers of congress, the certification of votes paused? >> i would object to further reading. >> with objections from republican senators and some republican house members. >> i rise to support the objection. >> i rise to support the objection. >> i rise to support the objection. >> earlier that day vice president pence said he was not going to follow trump's instruction us. which upset the president as he conveyed to the massive crowd. >> mike pence, you stand up for the good of our constitution and for the good of our country, and if you're not, i'm going to be very disappointed in you. >> trump continued toe rile up the crowd, demanding they take action. >> we'll never take back our country with weakness. you have to show strength and you have to be strong. >> many at the rally took his words literally. and we all watched as the effort to overturn the election -- >> it's over! >> came to a violent, bloody crescendo. >> it wa s so unimaginable that you would have a mob having broken into the capitol and i a tacked police officers attempting to break into the floor and go into the chamber of the house of representatives. >> [ bleep ]. >> you couldn't compute that that was happening because it's so fundamentally un-american. >> un-american. >> objection to counting the votes -- >> yet very close to happening in america. this video shows utah republican senator mitt romney someone the angry mob considered an enemy unknowingly walking towards rioters. capitol policeman told him to go the other way. leading them from the senate chamber. vice president pence the man many rioters called to be hanged that day. >> hang mice spence! hang mike pence! >> had to be rushed to safety with his family from the senate floor. minutes after rioters breached the capital. according to reporting from "the washington post" one of the vice president's aides, greg jacob who was with pence during the insurrection, sent an e-mail to john eastman after they were escorted off the senate floor. >> he said thanks to your bullshit, we're under siege. >> they broke through. it's on! >> they responded by saying that it was actually the vice president's fault and mr. jacobs' fault for the quote unquote siege. he sfed you had done what you were supposed to have done, if you would have gone forward as we asked you to go, it wouldn't be happening to you right now. >> i've got a gun! >> the conversation you had with your wife, you'd been off to war before having conversations with loved ones. was it like that? >> this was different. you know, i never had a sense that i might not survive this. there was a real sense that if they're in the capitol complex and they've already overrun two or three lines of police barricades, there's nothing to stop them. yeah. it was an emotional conversation. it was nothing i've ever had before. i hope to never have to have that conversation again. >> we have two young kids and i didn't want to aloorm my wife. at the time, it felt like anything was possible. because you're seeing the bomb threats. you're tracking it on twitter, seeing messages on telegram and some of these other platforms coming through about organized militia groups and some folks saying they're going to kill whoever they find. at the time, you don't know how it's going to end. >> on the other end of pennsylvania avenue at the white house, trump remade isolated, watching the events unfold on television. >> when he found out about what was going on, the violence, his supporters attacking policemen, beating policemen, members of congress hiding, running for their lives, what was his response? >> mccarthy had a conversation with him telling him just how bad it is, people are breaking into the office and his response was well, he's more concerned about the election than you are. >> some on the biden team were genuinely worried that there would be no transition, sources tell cnn, that trump and his mob had successfully disrupted the counting of electors and might find a way to cling to power. >> thank god that there weren't more people killed. at the time, you don't know that. at the time you know that there's an angry violent mob who believes the election was stolen and the united states of america and you're seeing even members of congress saying this is our 1776 moment, which as a reminder, that's a bloody violent revolution. >> of course you're going to have violence and of course you're going to have a riot at the capitol. >> come on people come on! >> it wasn't just an attack on our symbols of our democracy -- it was an actual attack on the transfer of power from one to the other. >> after the insurrection was over, hundreds had been injured, five dead, and the capital had been breached for the first time in more than 200 years. >> a revolution, don't take this shit anymore. this is ours. >> coming up, will trump try to steal the election again? 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>> not a word of it. i don't think they believe any of it. but i think you can convince yourself, if you're determined to, that i'll just play the game a little longer so that i'll be here to lead to a new direction. or i'll play the game because i don't have the power and influence to change the ship. >> when you think about the heroics on flight 93 on 9/11, you know, all those passengers standing up rushing the cockpit and saving the capitol, hadded to beamer or any of those others alone charged the cockpit, we would probably have a rebuilt capitol today and a lot of casualties. but they all decided to do it together. when you only have a few people speaking out, there's no doubt that will turn the ship. >> hatred for donald trump -- >> the lie continued on maga media where justifying the rioters' anger became a common refrain. >> these are not just conspiracy they're lists. that's a lie. these people love freedom and they love free markets. >> one week later, the house voted to impeach president trump for willful incitement of the. >> while some republicans spoke in favor, once again the majority of the house republicans sided with trump, refusing to vote for impeachment. >> the ayes are 232, the neys are 97. >> ten republicans did vote to impeach him, three of them you can you've heard from tonight. >> i voted to impeach him because i think it's very clear, as has been public, that he provoked the violence that day. >> i felt like i had no choice in the matter. >> as conservative republicans, we are constitutionalists, we believe in the rule of law. >> were you surprised only ten republicans voted to impeach? >> it's a point probably days, maybe a day before the impeachment where i thought we'd have hit 25, because i talked to 25 people, i look at the people voting for impeachment and i recognize every one of them that ended up not voting that way, they always mention a concern for what it meant for the re-election. >> congresswoman liz cheney voted for impeachment because she was so concerned about where trump's big lie was leading the nation. >> you have local officials who were getting death threats. you had members of congress who said to me they believed the president should be impeached after the 6th, that they were afraid to cast a vote that way because of their security, the security of their families. that -- that is a place that we haven't been certainly since the civil war and never when that threat of violence comes from a sitting president. >> and we're going to have to fight much harder. >> this will remain a cancer on our constitutional recovery. >> cheney has become a critic of those who engaged in the big lie and subvert democracy, including ken mccarthy, who said this just two days after the election. >> president trump won this election, so everyone who's listening, do not be quiet. >> in may, republican congresswoman elisest fannic challenged cheney. cheney supported to support trump policies more often than stefanik. stefanik defeated cheney for the leadership position. >> it became increasingly clear that to stay in house republican leadership, i would have to be willing to perpetuate the big lie and i simply wasn't comfortable with that. >> how many of your republican colleagues that perpetuate the big lie either with their comments or their voters moum of them do you think actually believe it? >> very few, very few. too many people are putting their own political future and their political fortunes ahead of doing their duty, and so i think that, you know, in some instances, there is fear, physical fear about what trump would do or the threats that might come, but in other cases, i think it's a political calculation which is create craven, if you think about it. >> what is the danger, do you think, of elected officials knowing better acquiescing to these demands, to these requests or winking and nodding about the big lie? >> the danger is that once you do it on this issue, what's to -- why wouldn't you do it on any other issue? j this is not about right and left at all. it's about right and wrong. >> the institutions don't hold themselves. in the moments of truth, you need the right people to pass the most difficult tests. we had just enough people on january 6th pass the test. we have to make sure we have people who will continue to pass the test. there were specific individuals at great risk to themselves professionally and personally who stood by those guardrails, people like the maricopa county board of supervisors, people like secretary of state rath perger in georgia, people like al schmitt in philadelphia, do you feel that ultimately a dozen of these people replaced by other people, trump people and the guardrails don't hold and democracy falls under? 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>> there was now growing evidence the mid terms will also test the strength of former president trump. >> her poll numbers have dropped faster than any human being i've ever seen. >> who has been working to turn elected officials into loyalists or get them voted from office. >> get rid of them all. >> trump attorney john eastman made that clear while talking about state legislators. >> these guys, now, now, if we take a bunch of them out in the primaries in 2022, and the precondition for getting elected is we're going to fight this stuff, maybe we get an opportunity, but right now, i don't see it. >> donald trump's behavior has congressman anthony gonzalez worried. >> it looks to me that he has evaluated what went wrong on january 6th. why is it that he wasn't able to steal the election, who stood in his way, and he's going methodically, state by state, it races from state senate races all the way down to county commissioner races, trying to get the people who -- the republicans, the rhinos, in his words, who stopped him from stealing the election, he's trying to get them removed. >> those are extremely powerful in terms of, you know, dealing with election. >> the focus for our office -- >> in georgia, brad raffensperger is facing a challenge from republican congressman jody highs. heist has been all in and is endorsed by donald trump. in arizona, a state representative named mark finchem wants the job which is being vacated bay a democrat. >> mark finchem is with us tonight. mark. >> he's already received the endorsement of donald trump. he has said over and over again that this was a fraudulent election. he's called for dessertification. he's got a decent chance to win this primary. if we had people like that in these key positions moving forward, i think we are -- we are in danger joog eight of the ten house republicans who voted for impeachment are facing challenges. including liz cheney. >> donald trump is very vokally supporting your defeat. are you worried? >> no. i intend to win. >> you could lose, i mean, you're saying you won't, but anything's possible. if you lose your career because of this position you're taking, will it have been worth it? >> well, i will no matter what happens never stop fighting for the constitution, never stop fighting for the rule of law. to me, there's not even really a choice or a calculation. it's just what is the right thing here and what has to be done. >> two of the ten have decided not to run for re-election. one of them is congressman gonzalez. he's retiring after two terms. >> this lifestyle, the constant travel, the constant fund raising, it wasn't working prior to impeachment, it was clear now was the time to get out. >> the other was adam ken singer who said he wanted to fight against the politics of division instead of for the election. the exits are happening at the state level, too. jeff duncan, the lieutenant governor in georgia is not running for re-election. >> i don't wants to have to say and do the things i have to say and do to win trump. >> he began speaking about the republican party and wrote a book about it called "g.o.p. 2.0." it's not just elected officials who are stepping out of or being pushed from view. remember the fox political director who correctly called the state of arizona for biden? he was fired in january. fox blamed restructuring. his bos retired. >> a source at fox news told "the washington post" that i was fired because my ratings weren't as good as dan bonjinos and that audiences were not responding to me as well as they do to him, which made me laugh, which i -- my job is not to tell you what you want to hear. >> bonjino is a krich pundit, not a reporter. laws tighten access to the ballot to prevent widespread voter fraud, you know, the kind that didn't happen. 19 states have new laws. >> trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist. >> some say it never occurs. it does occur. it occurs infrequently. >> efforts making it easier to undo the results of an election. eight states have enable toed 11 laws,000 strengthen the role of partisan politicians have in determining election outcomes. in georgia, some of the power that used to belong to secretary of state brad raffensperger, someone committed to the rule of the law, now. >> a number of states have tried to take running of elections away from profession and give it to politicians. so they give power to the state legislature to overturn results, that's very worrisome. >> this past year there has been no better example of a politicized counting process than the so-called audit of ballots in maricopa county, arizona. this past spring and summer by a group calling themselves the cyber ninjas. >> they have no experience at all in election audits. they're headed by this doug logan, who has been in that trump orbit ever since the election. >> people saw mimgs of these cyber ninjas looking at ballots through ultra violate lights. why? >> there was a conspiracy theory that thousands of ballots had been sent in nefar nefariously china. >> if you buy into conspiracy theories or believe the election was stolen from donald trump, the so-called audit made you more suspicious of the ballot counting process. in the end the ninjas determined biden did win. still now pennsylvania may be on the verge of conducting a similarly partisan audit as well. do you think that these republicans actually believe that there was fraud, or is this just look how pro-trump i am? >> i think that's a big motivate o for what they're doing. >> all of this has been happening in the aftermath of the 2020 election, a planned attempt to undo the will of the american people. with dozens of events, maneuvering, pressure campaigns, threats of violence, actual violence carried out over months and continuing to this day. >> do you think that what president trump and his minions were attempting was a coup? >> well, when you're trying to not count voters' votes, when you're trying to overturn the will of the people, i wouldn't know how else to describe that. it's hard for me to even attach the words coup in eric many. that sounds like such a third world notion. i don't know what you could call it other than a coup. >> i think there's a number of things you could call it, but no president in history has done it before and we have to make sure no president ever does it again. >> but if donald trump manages to get loyalists, enough laws are changed, it could happen again, but this time it might work. >> if we rerun this scenario with people holding the most powerful positions in co institutions, being more beholden to him than their oath, i think it's all pushing towards one of two outcomes. he either wins legitimately, which he may do, or if he loses again, just try to steal it. should he be the nominee or should he run again? i'll do everything i can to stop him. as a citizen of this country who loves the constitution, that's my stance. >> donald trump's running for president again, likely be the nominee of the republican party, assuming nobody attempts to challenge him credibly. joe biden is going to be 82 years old by 2024. many think he's not going to run again. there's very much a scenario where donald trump could be president again. this is a man who has challenged our institutions to near the breaking point. >> the fear is not just his undermining american democracy but once back in the white house, also undoing the american experiment. you think that he will try to impose some sort of ah to be si? >> i think this he absolutely would. there were things he wanted to do when he was in power the first time that were well beyond the scope of what the u.s. president should do, but the motivation of winning re-election kept him from doing things. it's very different in a second term, and i think that's what scares me the most. >> can you give me an example? >> whether it's weaponizing the justice department, whether it's going after the free press. he would be open to using the military for political reasons as well. >> that's terrifying. >> uh-huh. >> as a warning we are bringing you from conservative republicans, you might have noticed that other than a few journalists, the voices you've heard tonight has been exclusively gop because there's nothing partisan, nothing liberal about supporting democracy. >> the american experiment is an experiment. it's not guaranteed. i mean, when ben franklin said a republic, if you can keep it, he wasn't being cheeky. he meant that this democracy has to be fought for. >> how worried are you? >> i have real concerns about the future of this democracy, and i never thought that i would. i didn't think we had this sort of pull towards authoritarianism. >> i'm afraid for our country. i'm afraid that the kind of political violence, the kind of abandonment of the rule of law, the kind of abandonment of the constitution that we watched does threaten the foundations of democracy, the foundations of our system an the fact that so many in my party are willing to be silent or complicit or enabling it adds very much to the per il, because it's a very dangerous place for the country to be. >> i was discussing with an older friend of mine the subject of our documentary tonight, the erosion of american democracy, the continued undermining of basic rule of law and respect for facts. stay sane, he said to me, and then alluding to that famous quote that changed democrat goingic senator joe mccartney in 1954, someone has to stand up and say at long last, have you no decency? the thing is a bunch of folks have been saying this. journalists, politicians, conservative republicans that you heard from tonight terrified about the end of the american experiment. they have been shouting, have you no decency at trump, and the problem is trump has answered and the answer is no. he does not. and his supporters do not seem to care. and the vast majority of republican elected officials do care, as they should, well, they're not acting that way. 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