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here is our breaking news tonight. the house committee investigating the january 6th insurrection, planning to subpoena john eastman, the law who advised the former president on how to overturn joe biden's victory in the 2020 election. also tonight, negotiations on president biden's social safety net bill at a fever pitch right now. his agenda hanging in the balance as new disagreements threaten a deal between the moderate and progressive democrats. the white house wants an agreement before joe biden leaves for europe on thursday. i will speak to a member of the progressive caucus about this. word tonight criminal charges are not ruled out in the shooting death of the cinematographer on the set of the alec baldwin movie "rust." joining me john harwood and senior political analyst john avalon. good evening. john harwood, i have to get your take on breaking news, an aide to the cnn select committee they plan to subpoena john eastman, the lawyer who drafted ways to overturn the 2020 election. is that significant, and, if so, how significant is it? >> very significant if they can get john eastman to testify and testify truthfully. the problem, of course, is that people close to trump have been attempting to delay, to avoid service, to challenge the right of the committee to compel their testimony. don't know how long they can drag that out, but john eastman was at the center of the effort to thwart the constitution and overturn the will of the american people as expressed in the election last november. we learned from the bob woodward and robert costa book he came up with this memo and strategy of trying to get the electoral college to declare a result without some states counting, and then if that proved a problem then throw it to the house of representatives. it was a crazy scheme. it was ultimately thwarted by mike pence, but it seems to be integrally connected to what happened on january 6th. susing out what exactly happened on january 6th does, in fact, trace back to the white house, people close to the president and people like john eastman. we have to figure out how strong the connections are. >> john avalon, i want to turn to democrats racing to reach a deal on biden's economic agenda. senators manchin and sinema were at the white house tonight. negotiations seem to be changing by the minute. how critical do you think the next 24 hours are? >> absolutely critical. i mean the white house has tried to impose another deadline before biden leaves for europe, but they need to pass something soon. you know, you have elections that are coming up next week in virginia. you have got the midterms looming, and we're at the place where now we seem to know what some of the bottom lines, particularly for senator sinema are, this billionaire's tax and a corporate minimum tax, which are different ways to raise revenue to pay for these programs. it seems the white house is double indown on a fairly generous slice of the bill directed to the environment. bernie sanders saying, look, some has to cover medicare coverage for hearing and dental. so what everyone's positions are now pretty clear and the question is whether joe biden can draw on the senate and bring everybody to the fen issue line. democrats need this win. there must be a way to reason together, and it looks like while the devil is always in the details they're closer than ever. we will see. >> john harwood, the president hitting the trail for terry mcauliffe who needs a boost, john avalon just mentioned it. he needs a boost, right, because it is deadlocked in virginia in the governor's race. biden is hammering glenn youngkin for his ties to trump. watch. >> terry's opponent has made all of his privilege pledges of loyalty to donald trump, but what is really interesting to me he won't stand next to donald trump now that the campaign is on. think about it. he won't allow donald trump to campaign for him in this state. he's willing to pledge his loyalty to trump in private. why not in public? what's he trying to hide? is there a problem with trump being here? is he embarrassed? >> so who -- is he goading trump to weigh in here? what is happening? >> sure he is. he is obviously frustrated that donald trump hasn't been there. you know, we learned in the california recall that mobilizing democrats against donald trump is not a bad formula which you are not in a presidential election year, and the challenge for democrats in virginia is biden's in a rough patch. politics is increasingly nationalized so what happens in virginia reflects the national environment. biden is down. they're struggling to pass his agenda and biden doesn't excite voters particularly much. so what joe biden would like to have and what terry mcauliffe would like to have would be a more active and vibrant presence by donald trump as a boog ooh man to get democrats out. it is a very close race. the relative skill of the campaigns at getting their people out and energizing them is going to decide the result, and donald trump is an asset for the democrats they're not able to exploit as much as they would like. >> let's go to the media market there what is happening, right, john avalon. glenn youngkin releasing a new ad that features a virginia patient, her name is laura murphy, who tried to ban the pulitzer award winning novel "by loved" from her son's high school. >> when my son showed me his reading assignment my heart sunk. it was some of the most explicit material you can imagine. they passed bills requiring schools to notify parents when explicit content was assigned but governor mcauliffe vetoed it twice. he doesn't think parents should have a say. he said that. he shut us out. >> so, yeah. >> i mean, look, we -- "beloved"? i mean there's been a moved about it, the book is, you know, tony morrison is pulitzer prize winner. >> a nobel prize winner. >> this is a book about slavery. the truth is explicit. i mean, look, huckleberry finn, the n word is in there. i don't know what is going on. >> sure you do. you know what is going on. not for nothing, the named "beloved" an and tony morrison was never mentioned, the fact it was assigned almost a decade ago in an a.p. senior class, and if it is rough stuff it is because the horrors of slavery was real. it is literature, not trash. it is designed to make people afraid. it draws on the crt panic and associated stuff. this i think could create a blowback because i think once people realize what they're actually talking about, you know, tony morrison, "beloved" in a senior english class, it doesn't ring true. it is about the culture war issues republicans think they can win on. as long as they walk that line, distancing themselves from donald trump in public and playing the culture war card, which can resonate with a lot of swing voters. we will see. look, terry mcauliffe you always runs like he is behind. the problem is 10 out of the last 11 elections the virginia governor's race goes for the opposition party to who -- than the president who is just elected. so it is an uphill climb but it is a little bit of a desperate play. it is a culture war play. we will see whether voters see through it for what it is. >> a senior in high school. >> yes, graduated. >> don, it also just so happens that kid who was so traumatized by tony morrison's pulitzer prize winning novel happens to have grown up to work for a national republican party political committee. >> he got over it. he got over the trauma. >> so a tie in there. >> i guess, you know, they want "fun with dick and jane." see dick run. run, dick, run. come on, people. >> snowflake, anyone? >> oh, my gosh. talk about snowflakes. imagine, imagine how the kids of color feel when they have to read stuff about slavery. okay. bye-bye. see you guys. thank you. >> take care, don. lawmakers huddling tonight on capitol hill with democrats under mounting pressure to get something passed. details still being worked out on sticking points including medicare, climate and support for families. i want to bring in democratic congressman ro khanna, a member of the house progressive caucus. congressman, thank you. here we are. good evening. senators manchin and sinema at the white house tonight to negotiate on biden's agenda. there's also frantic energy to cut a deal on capitol hill. there's still some details that need to be finalized, we see that. do you feel any closer to an agreement tonight? >> don, i do. we had a meeting with the progressive caucus executive board this evening, ran late. everyone there wants a deal. >> how soon? >> we believe -- i think it is possible to have a deal this week. the key is that we need some of the priorities in there, the medicare expansion. that is a huge issue for senator sanders, for many progressives, making sure that we have robust climate provisions. but there's a willingness to compromise, there's an understanding that we need a deal this week. >> do you -- okay. do you understand -- listen, i had larry sabato last night and he said the democrats as a whole, meaning in washington, didn't understand how this is being perceived around the country and that the sort of nitpicking and infighting wasn't helping, especially virginia, not helping the midterm, not helping other folks who may be up for election, and that the democrats don't see the big picture. they don't see the forest for the trees. do you understand what he is saying? do you agree with that? >> i agree that the infighting hasn't helped, but the forest here are the american people. are we going to actually get them child care? are we going to actually get universal preschool? are we actually going to get seniors the dental, the vision, the hearing that we've promised? so we're not going to say, okay, we're not going to have any fights, but we're just going to forsake the american people and forget our campaign promises. but i agree the time has come to compromise, get it done and deliver on as much of the agenda as we can. >> so congress -- speaker nancy pelosi met with progressive caucus chair pramila jayapal today but there's disagreement whether framework on spending is enough to have a vote on infrastructure. listen to this. >> what we said consistently and we've been really clear about this is we want to vote both bills. now, you know, we are willing to if there's agreement on the senate moving forward and the president has, you know, an iron clad commitment from all 50 senators, we will vote both of them out of the house. >> congresswoman jayapal just said a framework agreement is not enough to vote for the -- >> i think it is. >> so other progressives echoing the need for a firm commitment. where do you stand? >> well, i think this is a lot of conflict over proceduralism. here is what i think will happen. there will be a deal announced. we will all go to the white house, those invited. i don't know if i will be invited. we will go to the white house, we will say we have a deal. that's what i think will be the message. it takes maybe a week to actually write the language into a bill to get a vote, but the key in my view is that the president before he goes to glasgow needs a deal on the climate provisions, and he will have that. i mean as long as we can come to an agreement, and i think that's what is going to matter to the american people. can they see a unified democratic party, not whether the vote is this week or the vote is in a week from now or two weeks from now. that depends on how long it is going to take to put it into text. what i want is a win behind the president. >> okay. so you said, you know, you kind of of chuckled and said, i don't know if i will be invited. the thing is would you like to be invited and what would you say if you have the opportunity? >> i have been fortunate to be invited to two meetings with the president, and i would go and say this is a historic achievement, that the president has done something extraordinary to deliver this much for working americans with only 50 votes in the senate and only a three-seat house majority. he's delivered because of his experience. when i've seen him in these small groups, he's on top of all of the details, he is engaged. he knows what every lawmaker wants. he's actually a very impressive legislator and he will deserve a lot of credit for getting this done. >> congressman ro khanna, thank you. i appreciate your time. >> thank you. one comment on tony morrison because i'm so outraged by that. are they going to ban melville next and hawthorne next? it is such anti-intellectualism. tony morrison is one of the great american authors. they're going after our heroes. i have to get it in. >> i'm glad you said that. do you understand the missage though, congressman, since you brought it up? the message seems to be working, it is penetrating. look where young kin is standing in the polls and he is running on that message. >> i think when people see the facts they are going after toni morrison, i read one of her novels in 7th grade. she is literally one of the great american writers. forget whether she is black, white or anything, she is just a brilliant writer. for all of the republican rhetoric, don't go after our heroes, don't knock down our statues, i mean that's what they're doing. they're taking out of the american canon one of the great american writers. i think we need the facts out there and most americans aren't that anti-intellectual and they will resent going after a nobel prize winner who people have described as one of the great writers of world literature. >> congressman, thank you. >> thank you. more breaking news tonight. word criminal charges have not been ruled out in the death of cinematographer halyna hutchins who was shot on the set of "rust" in new mexico. cnn told the incident remains under active investigation, and we're learning that the autopsy could take weeks. the state medical examiner's office saying it won't release information about the projectile that killed her until the autopsy is final. more tonight from cnn's lucy kafanov. >> reporter: this may be the last image of 42-year-old halyna hutchins alive, posted by a crew member. filming halted indefinitely according to a letter from the production team obtained by cnn as chilling details emerge about what may have happened in the hours leading to the fatal shooting. >> two people accidentally shot on a movie set by a prop gun. we need help immediately. >> reporter: one of the actors on "rust" ian hudson opening up about frightening moments onset. >> when the rounds were released, when they shot at me, i actually did feel the blanks hitting my face and my body, and i could feel the wind from the shotgun, you know, being discharged. it was heavy. it was strong. i would talk to my fellow cast members afterwards and we all agreed how intense that was and how scary and real it was. >> reporter: this as the wrap citing a source with knowledge of the set reporting hours before the sin ma to go roofer was killed some crew members used guns with live ammunition for target practice to pass the time. >> there's this past time that crew members sometimes do, it is called plinking. they go out into the rural areas and shoot at beer cans. this has been live ammunition. >> reporter: cnn has not been able to confirm the report. in a statement the producers of "rust" said they were not made aware of official complaints concerning weapons and prop safety onset and will be conducting an internal review of procedures while production is shut down. according to the report, one of the guns used was later handed to alec baldwin who was rehearsing for a scene. court documents show ammunition was found on the set and seized by the santa fe sheriff's office. three revolvers, nine spent shell casings, ammo and 14 swabs of suspected blood. court documents don't reveal the type of ammunition, whether live or blanks. according to an affidavit for a search warrant, dave halls, the assistant director of the film, grabbed one of three prop guns prepared by the film's armorer. >> live ammo has no place on a motion picture or television studio set. it has no place on a set anywhere at any time. >> reporter: neither hall or guterres responded to cnn request for comment. a veteran prop master tells "the l.a. times" he turned down a job on the movie "rust" saying the film was an accident waiting to happen. speaking to nbc news this morning. >> i turned the job opportunity down on "rust" because i felt it was completely unsafe. i impressed upon them that there were great concerns about that and they really didn't really respond to my concerns about that. >> reporter: lucy kafanov, cnn, santa fe, new mexico. >> lucy, thank you very much. we have a lot more to come on this. who is responsible for what happened to halyna hutchins on the set of alec baldwin's movie and what has to change to make sure nothing like this ever happens again? 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>> basically it is showing either a rehearsal of a scene, we see alec baldwin in the picture as well, we believe the director joe souza in the photo. we see some sort of rehearsal or some sort of scene about to be shot. it looks like there's yet another person interacting with alec, and i don't know who that person is. we don't know when this photo was taken, but, yes, that crew member does say that this, they believe, this is the last photo taken of halyna hutchins alive. but, yes, it just looks like a typical day onset, which we know that, you know, last week was anything but typical. >> yeah. court documents are revealing that there was ammunition lying around the set. last night sharon waxman from " "thewrap.com. what does it say to you about how the set was managed? >> what it is saying is that the set was mismanaged. i talked to so many people in the business that work on procedural dramas, cop dramas, tv shows, movies, and they've all said the same thing. there is no reason for live ammunition to be on a set. there's just no reason for it. no one has ever said anything different. so if, in fact, this is the case that these weapons are being used for plinking and for target practice and there was some sort of mishap where the gun wasn't emptied properly and there was live ammunition left there, i mean i cannot even imagine the neglect there. don, we have obtained, "entertainment tonight", a new letter from the "rust" production team to the crew members tonight saying that they have hired an outside legal team to come in and conduct an investigation along with the osha investigation that's going on. they did indicate to the crew they believe that it is too soon to really be discussing, you know, their feeling of that, but they do know they need to get this information sooner rather than later. so this outside firm, jenner and block, is going to be doing an investigation along with them to see what they turn up, and they said their findings, they're going to abide by this company's findings. >> so "rust" has hired an outside investigating team to do its own independent investigation? >> absolutely. >> according to news from nischelle turner and "entertainment tonight" tonight. i want to play this interview from one of the actors from "tmz" and get your response to it. here it is. >> as a new actor, you know, i don't want to cause trouble. i don't want to, you know, make an issue about things. i just want to do as well as i can and get the footage that they want. so i held my tongue for a lot of it, but some of the other actors who had worked on a lot more sets than i have as principle characters, they were double and triple checking our weapons after the arm orreorer gave the us, whether they were cold or hot. >> look, he also feels -- he said that he could feel blanks hitting his face and chest when he shot, you know, when he was shot at in some of the scenes. can you speak to the pressure that this unsafe environment puts on people? i mean feeling thankful he got a big break, right? and a lot of them may be too scared to even speak up. >> yeah, of course. i mean this was an independent film. it was not attached to a studio yet, but it did have names. it had alec baldwin as a name. he was also attached as a producer. frances fisher as a name. jensen ackels as a name. there were working actors on this movie, so you can understand if there's a young actor that gets a break, they just want to try to make a name in this business and they might be quiet to a lot of things that some other more experienced veteran actors should speak to. i have not heard any of those other actors really speak to that. we have heard crew members talk about working -- walking out. we have heard crew members talk about environments that they believe are unsafe, but we have not heard any other actors. that's shocking. i hadn't heard that sound, don, and that's shocking if, in fact, that is the case, that this actor was in these situations and in these scenes like this and felt that unsafe on this project. >> nischelle turner, always appreciate having you and your perspective. thank you so much. nischelle turner of "entertainment tonight." thank you for the news about the letter that you guys got. thank you so much. >> sure. so take this, so the man allegedly shot by kyle rittenhouse in wisconsin can't be called victims in the upcoming trial according to circuit judge bruce schroeder but calling them rioters and looters is apparently just fine with the judge. . >> let the evidence show what the evidence shows, and if the evidence shows that any or more than one of these people were engaging in arson, rioting or looting, then i'm not going to tell the defense they can't call them that. >> so the judge laying out the ground rules in a pretrial hearing monday when prosecutors understandably pushed back schroeder offered this defense. >> the word victim is a loaded word, and i think alleged victim is a cousin to it. >> so victim is a loaded word but rioter and looter, not loaded? judge schroeder said it is a long-held belief of his that attorneys avoid the word "victim." but the choice of what can and can't be said at trial really raising some eyebrows. so let's rewind because rittenhouse faces charges that he killed anthony m. huber and joseph rosenbaum and wounded gage groscrut during protests that followed the shooting in wisconsin. rittenhouse has become a symbol that believe the unrest and not the police violence behind it was the real issue. two people are dead here. so why can't the prosecution call them victims? the question is where is the justice in that? ultimately, it will be up to a jury to decide and selection begins on november 1st. former president's covid coordinator testifying today, saying that he put elections above people's health to the detriment of some 130,000 lives. stay with us. 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>> well, many more people would be alive today. i think he is right about that. it wouldn't have been asking a lot of the president. what he would have had to do is, number one, tell the public the truth as soon as he knew it. if he had warned people in january as soon as he knew a deadly pandemic was coming, many more people could have been prepared. if people had worn a mask and if he had listened to scientists and not fired the scientists or diminished the scientists like birx who were trying to, in fact, reduce the spread, a lot of lives would have been saved. so it is really a tragedy of 2020. >> well, birx also testified in the fall of 2020 that white house officials narrow focus on reelection distracted them from the pandemic. she tried to get them to reengage and implement a plan but got nowhere. she says after that trump was focused on the big lie. what did losing that time mean for the overall fight against covid? i mean that was a very critical time. >> well, i'll give you one example. jared kushner said to me in the book that you referred to, "preventable," that the president was going to take credit for opening up the economy in april and then he was going to leave it to the governors to take the blame if and when things went poorly. as far as i was concerned when he told me that and i'm sure that birx was aware of this as well, i haven't talked to her, at that point in time he was pretty much washing his hands of the pandemic and saying anything bad that happened wasn't his fault. and as you look through that summer and that fall, he hardly paid the pandemic any attention including when he himself got sick. so it really was usurping, just giving up his responsibility that he had been elected to just protect the american public. >> the fda's vaccine advisory board voted 17-0 with one abstention to recommend emergency use authorization for pfizer's covid vaccine for children 5 to 11 years old. the fda is expected to take up that recommendation. this means that as soon as next week around 28 million kids ages 5 to 11 could be eligible. vaccinating kids that age, is that the last hurdle to get out of this pandemic? >> i don't know if it is the last hurdle but it is a day that we've been waiting for for a long, long time, and many, many parents will be excited to do this. one of the big differences between this vaccine delivery and the delivery of vaccines to adults is that 25,000 pediatricians, most of the pediatricians in the country, will be able to administer those vaccines and, importantly, answer questions that we know parents have. we know many people, many parents are eager to vaccinate their kids and many kids are going to get vaccinated. others have questions. legitimately so. they want to understand the risks. they want to understand the benefits, and they should ask away. only they should not ask facebook. they should ask of their pediatricians. >> i wonder if you are worried about vaccine hesitancy for that age group, because we put up the poll from the kaiser family foundation. it shows around a third of parents of 5 to 11-year-old kids will vaccinate their kids as soon as it becomes available. >> yeah. well, look, when it comes to our kids we want to be understandably cautious. many people are willing to vaccinate themselves with a little less information, but they want to make sure they understand the risk/benefits. parents have a simple question, is the benefit of giving this vaccine reducing the long-term side effects, reducing the risk of hospitalization, worth whatever risks we are taking. there are very rare side effects. so it is important that parents understand the full picture, that they get to ask those questions. i'm okay with the fact that only a third of the people have gotten those questions answered so far. what i do hope is that the other two-thirds seek answers to those questions from reliable places, pediatricians are used to answering those types of questions, giving the vaccines out. i think they will find that the evidence suggests under almost every circumstance it makes sense to vaccinate their kids. >> let me get your reaction to this. it is in massachusetts. hop kington high school is going to drop their mask mandate for a three-week trial period for vaccinated students and staff. they're able to do it because of overall vaccination rate in their school is like 80% or more. is that a good idea? >> well, look, we will find out in three weeks. i don't mean to be flip about it, but with -- as cases drop, we are going to be able to relax some of our precautions. now, when exactly to relax those precautions is really a tough judgment call, and i think that, you know, the school ought to be prepared that if the kids are vaccinated and they do see a rise in cases to make an adjustment. but i think it sounds like a calculated decision. i don't know more about it, but, hopefully, you know, we will be seeing continued progress. they will be monitoring it closely. >> andy slavitt, thank you. i will see you soon. >> thank you. a 25 year old studying to become a doctor disappears. it takes weeks to discover his body and longer to identify him. cnn is lookiking into jelani das death. s legacy. summiting kilimanjaro. asher's art phase. the moment you knew it was love. whatever you treasure, make it last. framebridge. i always protect my voice. it's how i make my living. and you and i make a country with our voices. your vote is your voice. but more than ever, our freedom to vote is under attack. so please: call congress. tell them to pass the freedom to vote act. to protect our ability to have our say on the issues that matter most. so, let's pass the freedom to vote act and protect all our voices. so, you're recalibrating and reconnecting to the environment. seeing yourself as an artist - legitimate and genuine - can be transformational. daddy! for the best audio entertainment and storytelling. audible. ordinary tissues burn when theo blows. so dad bought puffs plus lotion, and rescued his nose. with up to 50% more lotion puffs bring soothing softness and relief. a nose in need deserves puffs indeed. where does the stress go when you're driving a lincoln? does it get tangled up in knots? you might have your own theory. but maybe it's better to just let it go. tonight the family of jelani day calling on the fbi and the justice department to investigate his death. the body of the 25-year-old grad student was found floating in the illinois river in early september. yesterday a coroner ruled his cause of death as drowning, but said that how day went into the river is unknown. his family does not accept any suggestion that jelani day died by suicide. more on the story from cnn's omar jimenez. >> keep hope alive! >> reporter: it is a call for answers that are far outweighed by questions in the case of jelani day. the county coroner ruling his death a drowning but writing it is still unknown how he got in the river. >> the report yesterday was an insult to our situation. it assumes it was kind of a suicide plan. >> reporter: reverend jesse jackson was among thousands in illinois yesterday, rallying and driving in a processional to raise awareness to demand answers and that federal authorities get more involved. jelani day was last seen on august 24th at a retail store in bloomington, illinois, about 130 miles from chicago. almost 70 miles north is peru, illinois, where his vehicle was found just two days later. from the road it looks like a dead end. you can still see the remnants of when jelani day's vehicle came through here. plants knocked on their sides. the question though is whether he was driving the vehicle when it did. authorities found his car just down this path and off to the left side according to the former attorney for the family. the thing about this location though is it isn't in the middle of nowhere. it has a ymca on one side and it is surrounded by homes. jelani day's body was found about a week afterward, just about a mile away off the bank of the illinois river east of the route 251 bridge. his body wouldn't be officially identified until nearly a month later. around when the body was found his walt was discovered about a mile and a half away from the vehicle, still half a mile from the vehicle with a lanyard and clothes found in separate locations as well according to the peru police department. his mother says none of it adds up and this wasn't an area he was familiar with. >> that he would come all the way -- >> that he would come all the way here. i mean there's plenty of bodies of water in bloomington. we're in peru, a town that jelani doesn't have any friends, no -- no ties to. his car was parked in a wooded area that you wouldn't have even knew how to get to had you not heard about this. >> reporter: when jelani day's body was found in the river, his organize oons were completely liquid according to the former family attorney after over a week of significant deterioration in the river. the coroner's report said there was no evidence of injury prior to death including strangulation or assault. >> he doesn't have any skin to determine bruising. so none of this makes sense. you want to tell me that there's no physical trauma done to my child? do i accept that they tell me it is my son? i accept it, but i still need to know why my son is not here anymore because somebody knows. >> reporter: the peru police department writing to cnn in part, there are hundreds of hours of video to look through, numerous follow-ups to conduct. members of the unit are working tirelessly to find out what happened to jelani day. but not fast enough for a mother left searching for answers. >> would you believe that somebody would come, would even come over to peru to do something to themselves? so see it with your own eyes, see why i'm so adamant about finding out about what happened to my son. >> cnn's omar jimenez is here now. jelani day's mother says the coroner's report is an insult, so what are they doing about it? omar will tell us next. new patients, get started with a comprehensive exam and full set of x-rays with no obligation. and if you don't have insurancnce, it's free. plus, get 20% off your treatment plan. enjoy flexible payment options and savings when it matters most. we're here to make your smile shine bright so you can start the new year feelin' alright. call 1-800-aspendental 7 days a week or book today at aspendental.com -capsule! -capsule! -capsule! capsule saves me money on prescriptions. capsule took care of my insurance. capsule delivered my meds to my doorstep. capsule is super safe and secure. get your prescriptions hand delivered for free at capsule.com ♪ your new pharmacy is here. to make sure you don't run out of meds here. and with amazon prime, get refills and free two-day shipping. who knew it could be this easy? 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>> reporter: yeah, don. and those calls are coming from a number of fronts. we heard them today from the family, of course, from reverend jesse jackson, and from congressman bobby rush, who specifically called on attorney general herric marland and fbi director chris wray to launch an investigation. he described this as a letter of great concern and compared it to emmett till, saying i was reminded of the lynching of emmett till, whose body was found floating in a liver in 1955, and still, decades later, no one has been held legally accountable for his death. of course, jelani day was found floating in the illinois river, and his family is asking for accountability. i should mention the fbi did tell me today that they are in contact with the peru police department, providing support when asked for it, don. >> we heard from jelani's mother in your reporting, omar. she says that the county's autopsy was insulting. are there other autopsies being performed? >> reporter: yes. as we understand from carman and the family, there are at least two other autopsies being performed. both of them hired by the family. when i asked her why a third one, she told me something that some people might find a little disheartening. she said well, she just didn't know what to believe at points. she felt like she's lost so much faith in a lot of these systems, and that this investigation has been playing out at too slow of a pace for her to get reliable answers. and that's really the spirit oh of this investigation. carman, the mother, feels like she is the one that's propel thing investigation forward when she feels like it should be the police departments, the federal government, and others that should be pushing her with this investigation forward, don. >> omar, we appreciate that. we'll keep our viewers updated. thanks so much. thank you for watching, everyone. our coverage continues. you have the best pizza in town and the worst wait times. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. indeed instant match instantly delivers quality candidates matching your job description. visit indeed.com/hire get pumped fans, because basketball's back! and our league pass lineup is totally stacked. forty games a week, all season long, on all your devices, so you'll never go wrong. watch your favorite sport, and do it your way, with nba league pass. order today! experience all the nba action with xfinity x1 - track stats and scores while watching your team live. to upgrade, just say nba league pass into your voice remote or go online today.

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here is our breaking news tonight. the house committee investigating the january 6th insurrection, planning to subpoena john eastman, the law who advised the former president on how to overturn joe biden's victory in the 2020 election. also tonight, negotiations on president biden's social safety net bill at a fever pitch right now. his agenda hanging in the balance as new disagreements threaten a deal between the moderate and progressive democrats. the white house wants an agreement before joe biden leaves for europe on thursday. i will speak to a member of the progressive caucus about this. word tonight criminal charges are not ruled out in the shooting death of the cinematographer on the set of the alec baldwin movie "rust." joining me john harwood and senior political analyst john avalon. good evening. john harwood, i have to get your take on breaking news, an aide to the cnn select committee they plan to subpoena john eastman, the lawyer who drafted ways to overturn the 2020 election. is that significant, and, if so, how significant is it? >> very significant if they can get john eastman to testify and testify truthfully. the problem, of course, is that people close to trump have been attempting to delay, to avoid service, to challenge the right of the committee to compel their testimony. don't know how long they can drag that out, but john eastman was at the center of the effort to thwart the constitution and overturn the will of the american people as expressed in the election last november. we learned from the bob woodward and robert costa book he came up with this memo and strategy of trying to get the electoral college to declare a result without some states counting, and then if that proved a problem then throw it to the house of representatives. it was a crazy scheme. it was ultimately thwarted by mike pence, but it seems to be integrally connected to what happened on january 6th. susing out what exactly happened on january 6th does, in fact, trace back to the white house, people close to the president and people like john eastman. we have to figure out how strong the connections are. >> john avalon, i want to turn to democrats racing to reach a deal on biden's economic agenda. senators manchin and sinema were at the white house tonight. negotiations seem to be changing by the minute. how critical do you think the next 24 hours are? >> absolutely critical. i mean the white house has tried to impose another deadline before biden leaves for europe, but they need to pass something soon. you know, you have elections that are coming up next week in virginia. you have got the midterms looming, and we're at the place where now we seem to know what some of the bottom lines, particularly for senator sinema are, this billionaire's tax and a corporate minimum tax, which are different ways to raise revenue to pay for these programs. it seems the white house is double indown on a fairly generous slice of the bill directed to the environment. bernie sanders saying, look, some has to cover medicare coverage for hearing and dental. so what everyone's positions are now pretty clear and the question is whether joe biden can draw on the senate and bring everybody to the fen issue line. democrats need this win. there must be a way to reason together, and it looks like while the devil is always in the details they're closer than ever. we will see. >> john harwood, the president hitting the trail for terry mcauliffe who needs a boost, john avalon just mentioned it. he needs a boost, right, because it is deadlocked in virginia in the governor's race. biden is hammering glenn youngkin for his ties to trump. watch. >> terry's opponent has made all of his privilege pledges of loyalty to donald trump, but what is really interesting to me he won't stand next to donald trump now that the campaign is on. think about it. he won't allow donald trump to campaign for him in this state. he's willing to pledge his loyalty to trump in private. why not in public? what's he trying to hide? is there a problem with trump being here? is he embarrassed? >> so who -- is he goading trump to weigh in here? what is happening? >> sure he is. he is obviously frustrated that donald trump hasn't been there. you know, we learned in the california recall that mobilizing democrats against donald trump is not a bad formula which you are not in a presidential election year, and the challenge for democrats in virginia is biden's in a rough patch. politics is increasingly nationalized so what happens in virginia reflects the national environment. biden is down. they're struggling to pass his agenda and biden doesn't excite voters particularly much. so what joe biden would like to have and what terry mcauliffe would like to have would be a more active and vibrant presence by donald trump as a boog ooh man to get democrats out. it is a very close race. the relative skill of the campaigns at getting their people out and energizing them is going to decide the result, and donald trump is an asset for the democrats they're not able to exploit as much as they would like. >> let's go to the media market there what is happening, right, john avalon. glenn youngkin releasing a new ad that features a virginia patient, her name is laura murphy, who tried to ban the pulitzer award winning novel "by loved" from her son's high school. >> when my son showed me his reading assignment my heart sunk. it was some of the most explicit material you can imagine. they passed bills requiring schools to notify parents when explicit content was assigned but governor mcauliffe vetoed it twice. he doesn't think parents should have a say. he said that. he shut us out. >> so, yeah. >> i mean, look, we -- "beloved"? i mean there's been a moved about it, the book is, you know, tony morrison is pulitzer prize winner. >> a nobel prize winner. >> this is a book about slavery. the truth is explicit. i mean, look, huckleberry finn, the n word is in there. i don't know what is going on. >> sure you do. you know what is going on. not for nothing, the named "beloved" an and tony morrison was never mentioned, the fact it was assigned almost a decade ago in an a.p. senior class, and if it is rough stuff it is because the horrors of slavery was real. it is literature, not trash. it is designed to make people afraid. it draws on the crt panic and associated stuff. this i think could create a blowback because i think once people realize what they're actually talking about, you know, tony morrison, "beloved" in a senior english class, it doesn't ring true. it is about the culture war issues republicans think they can win on. as long as they walk that line, distancing themselves from donald trump in public and playing the culture war card, which can resonate with a lot of swing voters. we will see. look, terry mcauliffe you always runs like he is behind. the problem is 10 out of the last 11 elections the virginia governor's race goes for the opposition party to who -- than the president who is just elected. so it is an uphill climb but it is a little bit of a desperate play. it is a culture war play. we will see whether voters see through it for what it is. >> a senior in high school. >> yes, graduated. >> don, it also just so happens that kid who was so traumatized by tony morrison's pulitzer prize winning novel happens to have grown up to work for a national republican party political committee. >> he got over it. he got over the trauma. >> so a tie in there. >> i guess, you know, they want "fun with dick and jane." see dick run. run, dick, run. come on, people. >> snowflake, anyone? >> oh, my gosh. talk about snowflakes. imagine, imagine how the kids of color feel when they have to read stuff about slavery. okay. bye-bye. see you guys. thank you. >> take care, don. lawmakers huddling tonight on capitol hill with democrats under mounting pressure to get something passed. details still being worked out on sticking points including medicare, climate and support for families. i want to bring in democratic congressman ro khanna, a member of the house progressive caucus. congressman, thank you. here we are. good evening. senators manchin and sinema at the white house tonight to negotiate on biden's agenda. there's also frantic energy to cut a deal on capitol hill. there's still some details that need to be finalized, we see that. do you feel any closer to an agreement tonight? >> don, i do. we had a meeting with the progressive caucus executive board this evening, ran late. everyone there wants a deal. >> how soon? >> we believe -- i think it is possible to have a deal this week. the key is that we need some of the priorities in there, the medicare expansion. that is a huge issue for senator sanders, for many progressives, making sure that we have robust climate provisions. but there's a willingness to compromise, there's an understanding that we need a deal this week. >> do you -- okay. do you understand -- listen, i had larry sabato last night and he said the democrats as a whole, meaning in washington, didn't understand how this is being perceived around the country and that the sort of nitpicking and infighting wasn't helping, especially virginia, not helping the midterm, not helping other folks who may be up for election, and that the democrats don't see the big picture. they don't see the forest for the trees. do you understand what he is saying? do you agree with that? >> i agree that the infighting hasn't helped, but the forest here are the american people. are we going to actually get them child care? are we going to actually get universal preschool? are we actually going to get seniors the dental, the vision, the hearing that we've promised? so we're not going to say, okay, we're not going to have any fights, but we're just going to forsake the american people and forget our campaign promises. but i agree the time has come to compromise, get it done and deliver on as much of the agenda as we can. >> so congress -- speaker nancy pelosi met with progressive caucus chair pramila jayapal today but there's disagreement whether framework on spending is enough to have a vote on infrastructure. listen to this. >> what we said consistently and we've been really clear about this is we want to vote both bills. now, you know, we are willing to if there's agreement on the senate moving forward and the president has, you know, an iron clad commitment from all 50 senators, we will vote both of them out of the house. >> congresswoman jayapal just said a framework agreement is not enough to vote for the -- >> i think it is. >> so other progressives echoing the need for a firm commitment. where do you stand? >> well, i think this is a lot of conflict over proceduralism. here is what i think will happen. there will be a deal announced. we will all go to the white house, those invited. i don't know if i will be invited. we will go to the white house, we will say we have a deal. that's what i think will be the message. it takes maybe a week to actually write the language into a bill to get a vote, but the key in my view is that the president before he goes to glasgow needs a deal on the climate provisions, and he will have that. i mean as long as we can come to an agreement, and i think that's what is going to matter to the american people. can they see a unified democratic party, not whether the vote is this week or the vote is in a week from now or two weeks from now. that depends on how long it is going to take to put it into text. what i want is a win behind the president. >> okay. so you said, you know, you kind of of chuckled and said, i don't know if i will be invited. the thing is would you like to be invited and what would you say if you have the opportunity? >> i have been fortunate to be invited to two meetings with the president, and i would go and say this is a historic achievement, that the president has done something extraordinary to deliver this much for working americans with only 50 votes in the senate and only a three-seat house majority. he's delivered because of his experience. when i've seen him in these small groups, he's on top of all of the details, he is engaged. he knows what every lawmaker wants. he's actually a very impressive legislator and he will deserve a lot of credit for getting this done. >> congressman ro khanna, thank you. i appreciate your time. >> thank you. one comment on tony morrison because i'm so outraged by that. are they going to ban melville next and hawthorne next? it is such anti-intellectualism. tony morrison is one of the great american authors. they're going after our heroes. i have to get it in. >> i'm glad you said that. do you understand the missage though, congressman, since you brought it up? the message seems to be working, it is penetrating. look where young kin is standing in the polls and he is running on that message. >> i think when people see the facts they are going after toni morrison, i read one of her novels in 7th grade. she is literally one of the great american writers. forget whether she is black, white or anything, she is just a brilliant writer. for all of the republican rhetoric, don't go after our heroes, don't knock down our statues, i mean that's what they're doing. they're taking out of the american canon one of the great american writers. i think we need the facts out there and most americans aren't that anti-intellectual and they will resent going after a nobel prize winner who people have described as one of the great writers of world literature. >> congressman, thank you. >> thank you. more breaking news tonight. word criminal charges have not been ruled out in the death of cinematographer halyna hutchins who was shot on the set of "rust" in new mexico. cnn told the incident remains under active investigation, and we're learning that the autopsy could take weeks. the state medical examiner's office saying it won't release information about the projectile that killed her until the autopsy is final. more tonight from cnn's lucy kafanov. >> reporter: this may be the last image of 42-year-old halyna hutchins alive, posted by a crew member. filming halted indefinitely according to a letter from the production team obtained by cnn as chilling details emerge about what may have happened in the hours leading to the fatal shooting. >> two people accidentally shot on a movie set by a prop gun. we need help immediately. >> reporter: one of the actors on "rust" ian hudson opening up about frightening moments onset. >> when the rounds were released, when they shot at me, i actually did feel the blanks hitting my face and my body, and i could feel the wind from the shotgun, you know, being discharged. it was heavy. it was strong. i would talk to my fellow cast members afterwards and we all agreed how intense that was and how scary and real it was. >> reporter: this as the wrap citing a source with knowledge of the set reporting hours before the sin ma to go roofer was killed some crew members used guns with live ammunition for target practice to pass the time. >> there's this past time that crew members sometimes do, it is called plinking. they go out into the rural areas and shoot at beer cans. this has been live ammunition. >> reporter: cnn has not been able to confirm the report. in a statement the producers of "rust" said they were not made aware of official complaints concerning weapons and prop safety onset and will be conducting an internal review of procedures while production is shut down. according to the report, one of the guns used was later handed to alec baldwin who was rehearsing for a scene. court documents show ammunition was found on the set and seized by the santa fe sheriff's office. three revolvers, nine spent shell casings, ammo and 14 swabs of suspected blood. court documents don't reveal the type of ammunition, whether live or blanks. according to an affidavit for a search warrant, dave halls, the assistant director of the film, grabbed one of three prop guns prepared by the film's armorer. >> live ammo has no place on a motion picture or television studio set. it has no place on a set anywhere at any time. >> reporter: neither hall or guterres responded to cnn request for comment. a veteran prop master tells "the l.a. times" he turned down a job on the movie "rust" saying the film was an accident waiting to happen. speaking to nbc news this morning. >> i turned the job opportunity down on "rust" because i felt it was completely unsafe. i impressed upon them that there were great concerns about that and they really didn't really respond to my concerns about that. >> reporter: lucy kafanov, cnn, santa fe, new mexico. >> lucy, thank you very much. we have a lot more to come on this. who is responsible for what happened to halyna hutchins on the set of alec baldwin's movie and what has to change to make sure nothing like this ever happens again? 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>> basically it is showing either a rehearsal of a scene, we see alec baldwin in the picture as well, we believe the director joe souza in the photo. we see some sort of rehearsal or some sort of scene about to be shot. it looks like there's yet another person interacting with alec, and i don't know who that person is. we don't know when this photo was taken, but, yes, that crew member does say that this, they believe, this is the last photo taken of halyna hutchins alive. but, yes, it just looks like a typical day onset, which we know that, you know, last week was anything but typical. >> yeah. court documents are revealing that there was ammunition lying around the set. last night sharon waxman from " "thewrap.com. what does it say to you about how the set was managed? >> what it is saying is that the set was mismanaged. i talked to so many people in the business that work on procedural dramas, cop dramas, tv shows, movies, and they've all said the same thing. there is no reason for live ammunition to be on a set. there's just no reason for it. no one has ever said anything different. so if, in fact, this is the case that these weapons are being used for plinking and for target practice and there was some sort of mishap where the gun wasn't emptied properly and there was live ammunition left there, i mean i cannot even imagine the neglect there. don, we have obtained, "entertainment tonight", a new letter from the "rust" production team to the crew members tonight saying that they have hired an outside legal team to come in and conduct an investigation along with the osha investigation that's going on. they did indicate to the crew they believe that it is too soon to really be discussing, you know, their feeling of that, but they do know they need to get this information sooner rather than later. so this outside firm, jenner and block, is going to be doing an investigation along with them to see what they turn up, and they said their findings, they're going to abide by this company's findings. >> so "rust" has hired an outside investigating team to do its own independent investigation? >> absolutely. >> according to news from nischelle turner and "entertainment tonight" tonight. i want to play this interview from one of the actors from "tmz" and get your response to it. here it is. >> as a new actor, you know, i don't want to cause trouble. i don't want to, you know, make an issue about things. i just want to do as well as i can and get the footage that they want. so i held my tongue for a lot of it, but some of the other actors who had worked on a lot more sets than i have as principle characters, they were double and triple checking our weapons after the arm orreorer gave the us, whether they were cold or hot. >> look, he also feels -- he said that he could feel blanks hitting his face and chest when he shot, you know, when he was shot at in some of the scenes. can you speak to the pressure that this unsafe environment puts on people? i mean feeling thankful he got a big break, right? and a lot of them may be too scared to even speak up. >> yeah, of course. i mean this was an independent film. it was not attached to a studio yet, but it did have names. it had alec baldwin as a name. he was also attached as a producer. frances fisher as a name. jensen ackels as a name. there were working actors on this movie, so you can understand if there's a young actor that gets a break, they just want to try to make a name in this business and they might be quiet to a lot of things that some other more experienced veteran actors should speak to. i have not heard any of those other actors really speak to that. we have heard crew members talk about working -- walking out. we have heard crew members talk about environments that they believe are unsafe, but we have not heard any other actors. that's shocking. i hadn't heard that sound, don, and that's shocking if, in fact, that is the case, that this actor was in these situations and in these scenes like this and felt that unsafe on this project. >> nischelle turner, always appreciate having you and your perspective. thank you so much. nischelle turner of "entertainment tonight." thank you for the news about the letter that you guys got. thank you so much. >> sure. so take this, so the man allegedly shot by kyle rittenhouse in wisconsin can't be called victims in the upcoming trial according to circuit judge bruce schroeder but calling them rioters and looters is apparently just fine with the judge. . >> let the evidence show what the evidence shows, and if the evidence shows that any or more than one of these people were engaging in arson, rioting or looting, then i'm not going to tell the defense they can't call them that. >> so the judge laying out the ground rules in a pretrial hearing monday when prosecutors understandably pushed back schroeder offered this defense. >> the word victim is a loaded word, and i think alleged victim is a cousin to it. >> so victim is a loaded word but rioter and looter, not loaded? judge schroeder said it is a long-held belief of his that attorneys avoid the word "victim." but the choice of what can and can't be said at trial really raising some eyebrows. so let's rewind because rittenhouse faces charges that he killed anthony m. huber and joseph rosenbaum and wounded gage groscrut during protests that followed the shooting in wisconsin. rittenhouse has become a symbol that believe the unrest and not the police violence behind it was the real issue. two people are dead here. so why can't the prosecution call them victims? the question is where is the justice in that? ultimately, it will be up to a jury to decide and selection begins on november 1st. former president's covid coordinator testifying today, saying that he put elections above people's health to the detriment of some 130,000 lives. stay with us. 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>> well, many more people would be alive today. i think he is right about that. it wouldn't have been asking a lot of the president. what he would have had to do is, number one, tell the public the truth as soon as he knew it. if he had warned people in january as soon as he knew a deadly pandemic was coming, many more people could have been prepared. if people had worn a mask and if he had listened to scientists and not fired the scientists or diminished the scientists like birx who were trying to, in fact, reduce the spread, a lot of lives would have been saved. so it is really a tragedy of 2020. >> well, birx also testified in the fall of 2020 that white house officials narrow focus on reelection distracted them from the pandemic. she tried to get them to reengage and implement a plan but got nowhere. she says after that trump was focused on the big lie. what did losing that time mean for the overall fight against covid? i mean that was a very critical time. >> well, i'll give you one example. jared kushner said to me in the book that you referred to, "preventable," that the president was going to take credit for opening up the economy in april and then he was going to leave it to the governors to take the blame if and when things went poorly. as far as i was concerned when he told me that and i'm sure that birx was aware of this as well, i haven't talked to her, at that point in time he was pretty much washing his hands of the pandemic and saying anything bad that happened wasn't his fault. and as you look through that summer and that fall, he hardly paid the pandemic any attention including when he himself got sick. so it really was usurping, just giving up his responsibility that he had been elected to just protect the american public. >> the fda's vaccine advisory board voted 17-0 with one abstention to recommend emergency use authorization for pfizer's covid vaccine for children 5 to 11 years old. the fda is expected to take up that recommendation. this means that as soon as next week around 28 million kids ages 5 to 11 could be eligible. vaccinating kids that age, is that the last hurdle to get out of this pandemic? >> i don't know if it is the last hurdle but it is a day that we've been waiting for for a long, long time, and many, many parents will be excited to do this. one of the big differences between this vaccine delivery and the delivery of vaccines to adults is that 25,000 pediatricians, most of the pediatricians in the country, will be able to administer those vaccines and, importantly, answer questions that we know parents have. we know many people, many parents are eager to vaccinate their kids and many kids are going to get vaccinated. others have questions. legitimately so. they want to understand the risks. they want to understand the benefits, and they should ask away. only they should not ask facebook. they should ask of their pediatricians. >> i wonder if you are worried about vaccine hesitancy for that age group, because we put up the poll from the kaiser family foundation. it shows around a third of parents of 5 to 11-year-old kids will vaccinate their kids as soon as it becomes available. >> yeah. well, look, when it comes to our kids we want to be understandably cautious. many people are willing to vaccinate themselves with a little less information, but they want to make sure they understand the risk/benefits. parents have a simple question, is the benefit of giving this vaccine reducing the long-term side effects, reducing the risk of hospitalization, worth whatever risks we are taking. there are very rare side effects. so it is important that parents understand the full picture, that they get to ask those questions. i'm okay with the fact that only a third of the people have gotten those questions answered so far. what i do hope is that the other two-thirds seek answers to those questions from reliable places, pediatricians are used to answering those types of questions, giving the vaccines out. i think they will find that the evidence suggests under almost every circumstance it makes sense to vaccinate their kids. >> let me get your reaction to this. it is in massachusetts. hop kington high school is going to drop their mask mandate for a three-week trial period for vaccinated students and staff. they're able to do it because of overall vaccination rate in their school is like 80% or more. is that a good idea? >> well, look, we will find out in three weeks. i don't mean to be flip about it, but with -- as cases drop, we are going to be able to relax some of our precautions. now, when exactly to relax those precautions is really a tough judgment call, and i think that, you know, the school ought to be prepared that if the kids are vaccinated and they do see a rise in cases to make an adjustment. but i think it sounds like a calculated decision. i don't know more about it, but, hopefully, you know, we will be seeing continued progress. they will be monitoring it closely. >> andy slavitt, thank you. i will see you soon. >> thank you. a 25 year old studying to become a doctor disappears. it takes weeks to discover his body and longer to identify him. cnn is lookiking into jelani das death. s legacy. summiting kilimanjaro. asher's art phase. the moment you knew it was love. whatever you treasure, make it last. framebridge. i always protect my voice. it's how i make my living. and you and i make a country with our voices. your vote is your voice. but more than ever, our freedom to vote is under attack. so please: call congress. tell them to pass the freedom to vote act. to protect our ability to have our say on the issues that matter most. so, let's pass the freedom to vote act and protect all our voices. so, you're recalibrating and reconnecting to the environment. seeing yourself as an artist - legitimate and genuine - can be transformational. daddy! for the best audio entertainment and storytelling. audible. ordinary tissues burn when theo blows. so dad bought puffs plus lotion, and rescued his nose. with up to 50% more lotion puffs bring soothing softness and relief. a nose in need deserves puffs indeed. where does the stress go when you're driving a lincoln? does it get tangled up in knots? you might have your own theory. but maybe it's better to just let it go. tonight the family of jelani day calling on the fbi and the justice department to investigate his death. the body of the 25-year-old grad student was found floating in the illinois river in early september. yesterday a coroner ruled his cause of death as drowning, but said that how day went into the river is unknown. his family does not accept any suggestion that jelani day died by suicide. more on the story from cnn's omar jimenez. >> keep hope alive! >> reporter: it is a call for answers that are far outweighed by questions in the case of jelani day. the county coroner ruling his death a drowning but writing it is still unknown how he got in the river. >> the report yesterday was an insult to our situation. it assumes it was kind of a suicide plan. >> reporter: reverend jesse jackson was among thousands in illinois yesterday, rallying and driving in a processional to raise awareness to demand answers and that federal authorities get more involved. jelani day was last seen on august 24th at a retail store in bloomington, illinois, about 130 miles from chicago. almost 70 miles north is peru, illinois, where his vehicle was found just two days later. from the road it looks like a dead end. you can still see the remnants of when jelani day's vehicle came through here. plants knocked on their sides. the question though is whether he was driving the vehicle when it did. authorities found his car just down this path and off to the left side according to the former attorney for the family. the thing about this location though is it isn't in the middle of nowhere. it has a ymca on one side and it is surrounded by homes. jelani day's body was found about a week afterward, just about a mile away off the bank of the illinois river east of the route 251 bridge. his body wouldn't be officially identified until nearly a month later. around when the body was found his walt was discovered about a mile and a half away from the vehicle, still half a mile from the vehicle with a lanyard and clothes found in separate locations as well according to the peru police department. his mother says none of it adds up and this wasn't an area he was familiar with. >> that he would come all the way -- >> that he would come all the way here. i mean there's plenty of bodies of water in bloomington. we're in peru, a town that jelani doesn't have any friends, no -- no ties to. his car was parked in a wooded area that you wouldn't have even knew how to get to had you not heard about this. >> reporter: when jelani day's body was found in the river, his organize oons were completely liquid according to the former family attorney after over a week of significant deterioration in the river. the coroner's report said there was no evidence of injury prior to death including strangulation or assault. >> he doesn't have any skin to determine bruising. so none of this makes sense. you want to tell me that there's no physical trauma done to my child? do i accept that they tell me it is my son? i accept it, but i still need to know why my son is not here anymore because somebody knows. >> reporter: the peru police department writing to cnn in part, there are hundreds of hours of video to look through, numerous follow-ups to conduct. members of the unit are working tirelessly to find out what happened to jelani day. but not fast enough for a mother left searching for answers. >> would you believe that somebody would come, would even come over to peru to do something to themselves? so see it with your own eyes, see why i'm so adamant about finding out about what happened to my son. >> cnn's omar jimenez is here now. jelani day's mother says the coroner's report is an insult, so what are they doing about it? omar will tell us next. new patients, get started with a comprehensive exam and full set of x-rays with no obligation. and if you don't have insurancnce, it's free. plus, get 20% off your treatment plan. enjoy flexible payment options and savings when it matters most. we're here to make your smile shine bright so you can start the new year feelin' alright. call 1-800-aspendental 7 days a week or book today at aspendental.com -capsule! -capsule! -capsule! capsule saves me money on prescriptions. capsule took care of my insurance. capsule delivered my meds to my doorstep. capsule is super safe and secure. get your prescriptions hand delivered for free at capsule.com ♪ your new pharmacy is here. to make sure you don't run out of meds here. and with amazon prime, get refills and free two-day shipping. who knew it could be this easy? 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>> reporter: yeah, don. and those calls are coming from a number of fronts. we heard them today from the family, of course, from reverend jesse jackson, and from congressman bobby rush, who specifically called on attorney general herric marland and fbi director chris wray to launch an investigation. he described this as a letter of great concern and compared it to emmett till, saying i was reminded of the lynching of emmett till, whose body was found floating in a liver in 1955, and still, decades later, no one has been held legally accountable for his death. of course, jelani day was found floating in the illinois river, and his family is asking for accountability. i should mention the fbi did tell me today that they are in contact with the peru police department, providing support when asked for it, don. >> we heard from jelani's mother in your reporting, omar. she says that the county's autopsy was insulting. are there other autopsies being performed? >> reporter: yes. as we understand from carman and the family, there are at least two other autopsies being performed. both of them hired by the family. when i asked her why a third one, she told me something that some people might find a little disheartening. she said well, she just didn't know what to believe at points. she felt like she's lost so much faith in a lot of these systems, and that this investigation has been playing out at too slow of a pace for her to get reliable answers. and that's really the spirit oh of this investigation. carman, the mother, feels like she is the one that's propel thing investigation forward when she feels like it should be the police departments, the federal government, and others that should be pushing her with this investigation forward, don. >> omar, we appreciate that. we'll keep our viewers updated. thanks so much. thank you for watching, everyone. our coverage continues. you have the best pizza in town and the worst wait times. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. indeed instant match instantly delivers quality candidates matching your job description. visit indeed.com/hire get pumped fans, because basketball's back! and our league pass lineup is totally stacked. forty games a week, all season long, on all your devices, so you'll never go wrong. watch your favorite sport, and do it your way, with nba league pass. order today! experience all the nba action with xfinity x1 - track stats and scores while watching your team live. to upgrade, just say nba league pass into your voice remote or go online today.

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