great. some are not with us anymore. it was great and completely authentic. he was so grateful to jeff bezos for giving him the opportunity. he said i don't know what to say. someone like william shatner, a very seasoned actor, very prowhen it comes to public speaking like blah, blah, blah i don't know what to say. it was great, don't you think? >> i thought it was so real. you know, what i liked about it -- >> i wish he had said going up, warp speed ahead. laugh w[ laughter ] >> he was doing 2,000 miles an hour. i think that for me, it was that's the closest reaction i've ever seen to i think what it would be like for the rest of us. when these astronauts and big shots go up there, that's not what it would be like for me or you. shatner, i could see myself feeling the way he did. >> did you play "star trek" when you were a kid -- >> no interest. i know it mr. spok not dr. spok. >> whatever. >> facts matter. >> crap. [ laughter ] >> facts do matter. did you -- here is where everyone is going to get mad at me. i watch d "star trek." i loved "last in space." "star trek number 2" never a fan of "star wars". >> i like "star wars" my kids hate it. i like the war of the world -- i didn't like that movie but world of the world type series. "the hobbit, fellowship of the ring" i'm into it. >> not my thing. not so much. >> you're more of a "squid game" guy. >> no, no, i'd rather watch an old movie on tcm. i'm an old man. >> i'll tell you what, i really believe -- >> "twilight zone". >> all right. i get it. [ laughter ] >> i really believe this supply chain -- i know it not sexy and i know it confusing. >> but it's em poo important. >> i'm telling you, come the holidays, have you tried to buy any gifts yet? >> yeah, that's not a problem for me. >> it's a problem. >> it is. it's awful. but maybe in someway this will teach us what's important about christmas -- >> i would love that. >> not necessarily gifts. >> i don't like christmas. i'm on record -- not a scrooge. i'm generous to a fault but it's all about the gifts. the little kids. do you know how many packages i found when we moved that were never opened? >> yeah. >> up wrapped but unopened gifts from christmas? >> yes. well, okay. mrs. miltada cuomo -- >> i don't like it. >> your mom is watching. >> a reason for the season. >> i agree. i'm not a big presents person. that doesn't bother me. here is what i have to say. you're usually a glass half full person so i'll help you. i talked to kye who explained the supply chain. it is terrible. people want their things but it an indicator the economy is doing well and people want to buy things and that it's backed up. let look at the part that hey, the economy is great. people can buy things again. they're out and about and want to buy gas. okay. fine. >> i think that's a little spin. >> it is spin. i'm just trying to make people feel good. trust me, i understand all of it. i'm saying sometimes you have to look at the bright side because it's getting better, people are out there traveling, gas prices are going up. you can't get the gas because there is so much demand. i understand it. that's not a -- look, let say overflowing of gas and nobody was going anywhere and you couldn't travel and you couldn't afford -- okay. fine. it actually the exact opposite. the demand is so high for people who are wanting to do good things and buy and be part of the economy that we can barely keep up. let's just, you know, get the right attitude. your things will come. things will come. right? gifts will come. furniture will come. toys will come. eventually. but that person who you sit across at the dinner table from may not be there always. right? you haven't been able to see them for the past two years. how about you think about that and get into that instead of thinking about what you don't have? >> i will and we have very big -- this is a big thanksgiving. 20-year wedding anniversary. >> oh, wow. yeah. sorry christina. >> did you get the invite? >> no, i don't need an invite. >> that's right. you didn't. that's right you didn't. [ laughter ] >> it has nothing to do with the supply chain. >> i got to run. >> i love you d. lemon. >> beat me up, scotty. see you later. this is "don lemon tonight." got a lot to talk about and it breaking news. january 6th committee not playing. our breaking news tonight a new subpoena for a trump doj official tonight, jeffrey clark, the justice department official who pushed the big lie helped the then president try to overturn our free and fair election subpoena letters saying and i quote here, the select committee's investigation revealed credible evidence that you attempted to involve the department of justice in efforts to interrupt the peaceful transfer of power and we're learning the former acting attorney general jeff rosen met with the committee for eight hours today. there is a lot that he could tell them in eight hours. remember, this is the acting a.g. who refused to sign the letter clark wrote pushing the bogus claim of voting irregularities in georgia. that is happening as the white house tonight is rejecting the latest request from the former president to assert executive privilege and keep the committee from seeing some documents that it requested, trying to assert executive privilege even though he is no longer the executive. he still is in his mind but he's not. a big couple of days ahead for that committee. kash patel, steve bannon scheduled for depositions tomorrow. mark meadows friday. patel and meadows are reportedly engaging with the committee but only recently served bannon won't be providing documents until they reach an agreement with the former president over executive privilege or a court weighs in. bannon was not a government official. the former guy is not the executive anymore. drag it on through the courts. but the latest threat of criminal contempt hangs over anyone who defies the committee subpoena and let's not forget what this is all about. these are members of the president's, the former president's inner circle. they can shed light on what happened on january 6th in the days before the violent blood thirsty trump supporters tried to stop the certification of the election. trump supporters, not antifa, not actors, trump supporters. the fact is we had a president trying to stage a coup under our noses and there is no clear evidence that the world has changed. just in the years since -- i want you to hear me especially democrats, okay? i've been saying this. you get mad don't beat up on democrats. this is the honest truth. democrats. just in the year since joe biden was elected and yes, despite the lies some people are still telling, joe biden is a duly elected president of the united states. right? it's the past year that we have had this shift in the past year since 2020. the rules have completely changed but the democrats don't seem to be able to read the room. okay? so let's -- democrats. take 2020, put it aside. we're not there anymore. warp speed ahead. read the room. the president's agenda, the promises he ran on, the promises that got him elected are all hanging in the balance now. this is serious. it is a crisis now for this white house. we seen our fellow americans attack the seat of our democracy, the quite capitol trying to overturn our free and fair election. since 2020 election. read the room. but just nine months later, too many democrats are fighting each other instead of, i don't know, maybe getting something done. while the gop is all about scorched earth and strong arming and could hand them congress next year, it comes down to this. democrats have to prove that they can get something done and they have to do it before the midterms. >> we need to think big and bold. that's why i'm pushing for once in a generation investment in our infrastructure and our people with my infrastructure bill and build back better act. the bottom line we've seen the cost of inaction and the pandemic and the delays and congestion that affect every american. but it fully within our capacity to act to make sure it never happens again. >> okay. yes. the one thing i think that -- big and bold but a backbone. big and bold but urgency. big and bold read the room. this isn't 2020. he said it within our capacity. it is. but democrats have to get real and figure out what their bottom line is. they need to get out of their own way. they need to push the president's agenda across the f finish line without getting so bogged down in the details and winning small little battles. when the democracy is at stake. when people went to the polls in 2020 democracy, okay, maybe it was at stake. right? you thought it was at stake and fine, all right. democracy is at stake but we have someone else in the white house and that's solved. then the big lie, then january 6th. democracy in greater danger. we're trying to save our democracy and they are operating under old rules in a world that is radically different from the way it was even in 2020. the reality is they're not all going to get everything that they want. progressives, you're not going to get everything you want. but if you allow this moment to pass and not get anything accomplished, then you're gone. then joe biden is gone. then democrats are gone and you won't have a chance. same thing for conservative democrats and nobody gets everything they want. and they cannot let joe mansion and kyrsten sinema, two members of the president's own party torpedo his agenda. >> we're waiting for the two of them to agree with each other and then to submit a counter proposal and i'm not sure why it taking so long but obviously, this is a moment where we're all in agreement. so if somebody else has a different proposal they should put it on the table but it doesn't make sense for us to continue to negotiate against ourselves. >> okay. so listen. let's show the numbers, right? cnn poll finds 75% of democrats prefer a bill that goes farther to expand the social safety net and combat climate change over one that costsless and acts fewer of those policpolicies. i'll say that again. a new cnn poll, please put it up for me, danny, finds 75% that is a big majority. 75% of democrats prefer a bill that goes farther to expand the social safety net and combat climate change over one that costs less and enacts fewer of those policies. and the biden administration has to get real and figure out what their bottom line is. like i said, everything has changed. this is not 2020. remember when we thought we'd be declaring freedom from the virus on july 4th? yeah, well, we know how that worked. how that worked out, right? a new analysis finds there were over 90,000 preventable deaths among unvaccinated adults just over the past three months. preventable deaths. if only people had gotten vaccinated. who would have thought that so many americans would turn down life saving vaccines, like one of the highest paid podcast hosts joe biden spoke with dr. sanjay gupta why he didn't get vaccinated. >> would you have gotten it -- >> i almost got it. let me tell you what happened. the ufc allocated a bunch of doses for all employees and i came down on friday and i said hey, can i get vaccinated? and they said yes, let set it up. i said i have a previous obligation. i said but i'll be back in two weeks. let do it in two weeks and i'll come a day early. i said great. in the meantime johnson & johnson got pulled. >> my producers informed me i said joe biden. perhaps joe biden should go on joe rogan. it was joe rogan. there was a brief pause with the j&j vaccine for a rare type of blood clot but that pause was lifted after ten days. >> i got nervous about it and i also got nervous that some of these things are being under reported because when i talked to people, i was like was it submitted to the vears report? they said no. how many people had adverse reactions that were submitted versus not? >> we got much more to come on this. think about what it was like a year ago, right? just think about a year ago. how desperate we were for those vaccines. for the vac scines we have now. now we have republican glove n governors pandering to anti-vaxxers, democrats. that's why -- and people are listening to them. the governors and the anti-vaxxers. we have parents screaming and yelling about masks that protect their own kids from being infected. people are listening to them. democrats. so like i said, the rules have changed. the world has changed drastically in one year but just look at what we can get done if we really try. okay? this is what happens when we really try to get things done and succeed. sure, it's easier for one of the richest people in the world to get big things done and even go to space but you can't deny it is an amazing sight here, william shatner, captain kirk to you and to me actually flying into space and coming back to earth ten minutes and 17 seconds la later. >> william, you had one of the most perhaps one of the most interesting lives of any human could possibly have. where does this stack up on your list of life experiences? >> i think this is enormous. i'm overwhelmed and it takes more than a little thing to overwhelm me. i'm overwhelmed by this experience and in fact, i can't -- you know, use these words to process it. i really, i've got to find the words to -- and i'm finding them gradually as this tsunami of experience is reseeding i'm able now to pick up the points and i will at sometime later distill what i've seen but what i've seen is not just -- it's so nonsensical life changing. what it is profound and you have to analyze what is profound and i'll get there sooner or later. >> you'll hear a lot from william shatner later in the show. that is my william shatner. 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let's discuss, andrew mccabe, he is a cnn senior law enforcement analyst and author of the book "the threat how the fbi protects america in the age of terror and trump." andrew, thank you, good evening. let's get into this. with steve bannon planning to defy the deadline, what's your reaction? is he in any position to demand terms and how fast do you think that this criminal contempt charge could be coming his way? >> yeah, he's don not really in any kind of a strong position to demand or hide behind the executive privilege but that's not going to stop him from asserting it so on the house side what they will do is first vote to hold him in contempt, that should be pretty quick, pretty easy to do and then from there, they have a couple of options. they could refer that contempt citation to the department of justice and ask the department to prosecute him criminally for contempt. they could decide to pursue it in civil court, federal court and in the same way that they went after trump and other trump associates during the prior administration to try to enforce subpoenas that or they could send the sergeant in arms out to grab mr. bannon and hold him in jail on the hill which is highly unlikely to happen. all of those take a lot of time. that's what mr. bannon is gambling for now. he know he's not going to win but gambling he can probably out last them. >> the select committee announcing they subpoenaed jejeff ry clark, justice department official in attempts to overturn the e 2020 election, andrew. how significant is this? >> hugely significant, don. jeff clark was at the center of one of the conspiracies to try to illegally overturn the results of the 2020 election. he was a key player in trump's efforts to throw out the results of the election. so i think it's great the committee is going after him. i'm sure many people in the country are asking themselves tonight who is jeff clark and that is the question mr. clark should be asking himself. who are you, jeff clark? are you an attorney? are you a former justice department official? are you somebody who is going to abide by the rule of law and follow the directives of the subpoena or are you a trump loyalest and going to get in line behind steve bannon and others and try to fight it and gamble for time? it will be interesting to see how he answers that question. >> we're also learning tonight that the former acting attorney general, jeffrey rosen met with the select committee for eight hours today and we know from a senate judiciary board on january 3rd, trump tried to pressure rosen to overturn the election for hours. what role will he play in this investigation? i'm talking about rosen. >> key witness. that is the role that he will play. listen, i can tell you, don, i have been there many times. i've sat in the chair that he sat in today for eight, ten, 12 hours at a stretch. it is a long and hard day. mr. rosen is making himself available. administration has not blocked his appearance with any claims of executive privilege and all indications are he's providing a lot of detailed information to the committee. that is going to be key in not just expanding their um understanding of what happened but driving future subpoena requests. this will enable them to target other significant witnesses who people they want to call in front of the committee. >> always a pleasure. thank you, sir. >> thanks, don. is our democracy heading towards extinction? i'm going to speak with a guy who literally wrote the book how democracies die. next. it only takes a second for an everyday item to become dangerous. tide pods child-guard pack helps keep your laundry pacs in a safe place and your child safer. to close, twist until it clicks. tide pods child-guard packaging. ben isn't worried about retirement his personalized plan is backed by the team at fidelity. his ira is professionally managed, and he gets one-on-one coaching when he needs it. so ben is feeling pretty zen. that's the planning effect from fidelity (man 1) oh, this looks like we're in a screen saver. 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>> there is a real battle taking place at the level of u.s. states. these changes since january, a bunch of states to change the way that votes are counted to change who can vote and how you vote, who certifies elections, all the details people haven't spent thinking about in daily lives, these details are critical. what could happen in 2022 and 2024 is that a majority of people vote for one party and that party doesn't actually win given this maneuvering in the rules. so one of the things that i think really republicans as well as democrats need to understand is that when people play recklessly with our democracy, it's playing with fire and when the house burns down, everybody goes down with it. one side doesn't emerge as victorious so republicans need to realize if they play this dangerous game, the whole democracy is going to come burning down and nobody will survive. it critical to understand you can't play recklessly with our democracy. >> listen, i think, obviously, the former guy is to blame for, you know, trying to have a coup after the last election to pull off a coup. but as you said, the folks in his own party are going with it. gop establishment are throwing in with the former president. here it is. >> i didn't accept the endorsement of a person that's got 91% of the republican voters in iowa, i wouldn't be too smart. i'm smart enough to accept that endorsement. >> so it is a bargain but grassly is not alone. has the whole gop turned anti democratic and what does that do to the foundation of our democratic system? you answered part of that in your last answer but i just -- you know, if this continues, is there -- can we ever go back? >> well, i think we can. this is why i'm appears on your show at this hour in the evening because we need to talk about this. people need to educate themselves. there is incredible organizations the brennan center for justice. you can check the websites and zit citizens need to mobilize and there needs to be pressure put on the congress and senate to pass bills that protect voting rights. there is two big bills in front of the senate now, the john lewis voting rights act and another voting bill to prevent jerr gerrymandering. it's critical we take action reinforce the basic guard rails of our democracy. if we don't, everything is at stake. charles grassly may think this is short term interest to accept the endorsement of donald trump but five years from now that won't do well if the entire political system doesn't function in the way we're relying upon. it's really absolutely critical republicans and democrats understand enough is enough. enough with the games. democracy is at risk and we need to understand that democracy is about losing elections. if you lose and everybody knows when you lose, you go home and buy another day. if you don't do that, we'll suffer the consequences. >> we'll have you back. appreciate you coming on. be well. more than 90,000 people died who didn't have to in the last three months. that's according to a new study out today and i'll ask the u.s. surgeon general about that and a whole lot more. that's next. plus, captain kirk in space for real. i've always dreamed of seeing the world. but i'm not chasing my dream anymore. i made a financial plan to live it every day. ♪ ♪ find a northwestern mutual advisor at nm.com >> tech: when you get a chip in your windshield... trust safelite. this couple was headed to the farmers market... when they got a chip. they drove to safelite for a same-day repair. and with their insurance, it was no cost to them. >> woman: really? 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>> well, don, you're right that there is good and bad news that we have to take in today. let's start with the good news, though. we do have seen really over the last several days, now several weeks the cases, hospitalizations are on the decline and deaths will soon start to decline, as well. we're also seeing, don, is continued progress on the vaccination front. at this point, we have nearly 190 million americans fully vaccinated. that number by the way was at 2 million in january and what we continue to see are the vaccines are remarkably good at keeping people out of the hospital and preventing them from dying. here is the troubling news. there are over 65 million americans who are still unvaccinated and we've got to get them vaccinated because we're dealing with the most transmissible version of covid-19 to date. and the tragedy of this is don, that so many of the people who are hospitalized and who have passed away in recent months, these are deaths that could have been vented had people been vaccinated. so we cannot give up. we're continuing our efforts to expand access to vaccines and get accurate sicientific information. i want to remind everyone who has been vaccinated you have a role to play here, too. talk to your family and friends. remind them of the importance to get vaccinated. it's not too late. >> to stay on vaccines for a moment. the nih says mixing and matching vaccines is safe and creates a strong immune response. what do you think of the people getting a johnson & johnson vaccine getting a booster of pfizer or moderna? >> that's a really good question, don. the booster discussion is an important one because as well as a vaccines have been working, we want to continue to extend that protection where the boosters have come in. as you know, the fda and the cdc have supported the use of boosters for people who receive the pfizer vaccine and who fit into high risk groups and they are going to in the next few days be evaluating ma doderna a johnson & johnson recipients for boosters. the question regarding mix and match specifically can people who got johnson & johnson potentially get a different kind of booster vaccine like moderna or pfizer is among the questions that the cdc and fda will be considering in the weeks ahead but specifically this week, they will looking at the data from mix and match studies. we'll see what they say. we'll look at the safety and efficacy of the studies. once they weigh in we'll have a clear sense what j&j recipients can do. >> there is no guidance so you're waiting to hear. surgeon general, let's turn to the less encouraging news. your response to greg abbott trying to ban vaccine mandates when we're not over the finish line yet is encouraging news but still, we're not done with this yet. are you worried that politics could trip up trends that we're seeing now? >> well, don, one of the great tragedies of the covid-19 pandemic in addition to the tremendous loss of life has been that unfortunately, this has been a polarized experience for much of the country and that polar saization made it harder respond to the vaccine. to deal with the pandemics, we have to be united and let science guide us and recognize that we are better off when we are sticking together and supporting one another. this is one of the circumstances, don, where our decisions really do affect other people. we are a country based on the notions of freedom and independence and fairness but we have recognized throughout our history there are times where decisions we make in our life whether about how fast we go on the freeway or whether it's about whether or not we get vaccinated, these decisions have an impact on other people and in this case we've made decisions to take common rules and put them in place for the common good. vaccine requirements fall into that cat goreegory as well. they're not new. we've been doing them since the beginning. they work and aref effective. 20% bump in vaccination rates among organizations put vaccine requirements in place. most of all, they're an important public health tool that reflects that reality that the decisions we make affect other people. that's what should guide us. i worry when i see politics, polarization, misinformation and disinformation take us away from sound public health guidance. we can't afford to let that happen because lives are at stake. >> lives are at stake and these states we're talking about texas, they are trying to get rid of mask and vaccine mandates, which is, you know, which is extremely troubling. there is also ohio congressman jim jordan tweeting ohio should ban all vaccine mandates. i mean, how dangerous is this? vaccines for diseases like polio and measles have been mandated for decades. what happens if those are all of a sudden eliminated, surgeon general? >> that would be catastrophic because we know that for decades that vaccine requirements for measles, mumps, rubella and other illnesses including polio and these kept millions and millions of people healthy and saved millions of lives are part of the public health infrastructure of this country. we should be learning from those lessons and applying them to covid not seeking to take down requirements that have saved lives and made people's lives better so we've got to keep that in mind. i know this is a difficult time and the response has felt polarized but it's gone on for a long time the pandemic has been going on for 18 months. that's stressed and strained us. we can't allow the virus to get the better of us and force us to look the other way and not follow sound public health guidance. what we got to do is learn from the past. the past tells us that science needs to guide our planning, the vaccine requirements work and that if we stick together and get people vaccinated that is our surest path out of this pandemic. >> surgeon general, thank you so much. appreciate you joining us. >> of course. good to be with you, don. take care. william shatner the captain kirk makes history in space today. rocket man next. 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