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about to learn much more about just how aggressive the house january 6th committee is prepared to be in that search for the truth. trump allies now defying committee subpoena as lawmakers try to dock you'll the how the former president's rage over failing to get help to steal the 2020 election momented the january 6th rally and the insurrection. cnn's brian nobles up on capitol hill for us. a big day ahead for this committee. >> no doubt. this is the week, that first group of individuals that were subpoenaed by the january 6th select committee is scheduled to be here on capitol hill for closed door depositions, talking about dan schavino, mark meadows, cash patel, an official at the department of defense on january 6th and, of course, steve bannon, the former white house counsellor and trump booster who was part that have group of people, urging people, to come to the capitol on that day. we already know that bannon said he's not going to comply with the subpoena, that he's going to follow the former president's marching orders and help of him defend executive privilege. the level of cooperation amongst these other three men sun clear at this point, but the committee is making it very clear to them that should they try to defy these subpoenas, they are going to use every tool in their toolbox to make sure that they cooperate. listen to what adam kinzinger, one of the republican members said about that this morning. >> if we get to a point that we realize they are stonewalling and they are not serious, there's contempt things you can file. you can do it through congress or the doj, criminal congress. that's our leaningness to say criminal content. there's going to be some day i still hope and pray that people wake up from this kind of donald trump buzz/hangover/whatever drunken thing is going on and realize that the country is actually pretty important. >> so there are a lot of obstacles right now that the committee is being forced to contend with. that could play out in a big way this week, john, as we see how they respond to the lack of response from this group of individuals that have been speena by them for information. john. >> fascinating few days ahead as i said, a very important search for the truth. ryan nobles, kicking this off in studio. francisco chambers of mcclaech and cnn's mille mattingly and margaret tallos of axios. let the committee build the history, that's fine, but why don't you all stop talking about this and stop talking about donald trump, sorry. this is donald trump this weekend in iowa. listen. >> first of all, he didn't get elected, forgot that. when you hear the numbers of swing states, there was no reason to concede. they should have conceded. mitch mcconnell didn't have the courage to challenge the election. he should have challenged the election. >> donald trump is on that stage with chuck grassley who is running for re-election election, a senior member of mitch mcconnell's senate republicans, on the stage with a republican member of congress, the electoral college comes to the house first on the stage with the iowa republican party and is targeting mitch mcconnell there. he's targeted secretary of states and tried to elect governors in these swing states that would make -- maybe make different decisions in 2024 and now standing on that stage, and there's chuck grassley right there, essentially phil mattingly laying the groundwork, if republicans take the senate, let's dump mitch mcconnell who said no in 2020. >> first the absurdity of dumping the guy that is responsible for every major achievement whether it was judges or the tax bill, also dumping a leader with a ton of respect inside the republican conference, making theme choose between the former president and the senate minority leader would be a little bit complicated. you hit on a key point. you hear from republicans stop talking about the past and stop talking about january 6th. the front-runner for your party who has made it very clear is making a presidential run talks about it ad nauseum and never stops talking about it and is lying about it through his teeth including some republicans who are very well respected and stand up on stage and generally concur or at least nod their heads and what it's doing inside the republican party, if you want to know where the pare is, the appearance from senator grassley was as telling as anything you would see. had the q poll that said 40%, 45% of republicans really want trump to again. okay. that might be true on that poll. where are elected officials, that tells you where the party is more than anything else and senator grassley was not on the stage if he was not keenly aware that donald trump is still the leader of the republican party and the front-runner for 2024. >> i think -- it all goes to this question of are congressional democrats and a couple of republicans on the committee really going to enforce to pursue contempt and that sort of thing? is the justice department and the biden administration actually going to use their -- their powers as they could, and it is -- it has long been true that congress is like reluctant to hold people in contempt if they dance around hearings, and the justice departments, last one aside, that traditionally justice departments don't want to do anything that could be perceived as politically punitive. i think there is a red line here and the difference is it's not true that the election was stolen. it's not true that the results are in question. it's not true that donald trump should be the president right now. none of those things are true, and the people that they are calling, that are resisting right now are part of the propaganda of these things that aren't true, and so i think breaking that -- that pattern and becoming more activist, whether you're congress or the white house, this isn't about politicizing, this is protecting against politicization. >> and if you look at the senate judiciary committee committee report, you went through things that are true, donald trump nine times reached out to the justice department trying to get them to overterm the results of the election, that's the fraud. it is true he's trying to take out secretaries of state and get governors elects in key battleground so if you have an election and things on the ground turn out differently than 2020. if the electoral college comes to the house and it's run by republicans, people like steve scalise will have a decision to make, people like that. >> i hope it gets back to what the constitution says but clearly in a number of states they didn't follow the election protocols. >> you think the election was stolen? >> they didn't follow legislatively set rules. >> do you think the election was stolen or not? i understand there were irregularities and things that need to be fixed. >> and it's not just irregularities. it's states that did not follow the laws set which the constitution says they are supposed to follow. >> thank chris wallace for trying, repeatedly trying. b, that's not just about 2020. every one of the states the trump campaign had every legal right to challenge. in every one of the states it did it lost. time and time again it lost. that's steve scalise leaving in the back pocket the ability when the electoral college to comes in next time to say we don't like how arizona handled that or how pennsylvania handled that so we're going to change it here in washington. that's what he's doing. >> and donald trump demands unflinching loyalty from republicans, and that's core to the point that you were making and that's exactly what you saw happening right there with steve scalise. nobody -- not nobody, maybe sometimes mitch mcconnell k.many people who want to remain party leaders do not want to cross donald trump because they see that as a sure fire way to be moved out of that position, but you are right about it being about the future and what i'm hearing from democrats is they want to see a hardline taken on these subpoenas. they want to see this brought to the forefront of the conversation because they do believe that this is about 2022. this is about 2024 and potential actions that can be taken >> enand it's about power. let's be clear. it's about power. those republicans like chuck grassley. trump is popular in iowa. chuck grassley wants to be leader rather than ranking member grassley again. liz cheney is also a republican on the committee. this is what she said after she heard steve scalise. millions of americans have been sold a fraud that the election was stolen. republicans have a duty to tell the american people that this is not true. perpetuating the big lie is an attack on the core of our constitutional republic. she is right. she is right. the facts support her. that's not a political partisan statement, but there are so few republicans who are willing to just tell the president he's not welcome and there are so many republicans who want to rush out to be on the stage at a trump rally. >> congressman scalise is essentially trying not to piss off donald trump and while doing so wittingly or unwittingly to your point is laying the groundwork for the potential for 2024 when it gets to the house making decision about electors becoming very, very problematic very quickly. this has been the republican party for five years. if we survive today and kind of push them off today, at some point someone will take him out or somebody else will challenge and rise and they have been wrong every single day for the better part of the last five and a half years and i get to your point. if you want to win the house majority, they are on the close and on the verge of it, don't upset the guy that can rally the base and get voters out like nobody else your party has seen in decade. fair except for when the actual baselines of democracy are at stake and i think that's the thing that everybody is trying to figure out right now is republican leaders know this. they can play dumb if they want to publicly. they are very cognizant of the dynamics taking place right now, what's happening on the state level especially, and yet they have decided that in order to win the house they have no other option and we wonder how they sleep well with that decision. >> they need him, want his voters and need power. we'll continue the conversation because it's an important one. coming up, politics and the pandemic covid response. the politics of your governor likely impacts the case count in your state. when we found out our son had autism, his future became my focus. lavender baths calmed him. so we made a plan to turn bath time into a business. ♪ ♪ find a northwestern mutual advisor at nm.com i'm gonna earn 3% on dining including takeout with chase freedom unlimited. that's a lot of cash back. are you gonna stop me? uh-oh... i'm almost there... too late! boom! earn big time with chase freedom unlimited with no annual fee. how do you cashback? chase. make more of what's yours. a just released study illustrates a very stark red-blue divide in america's covid divide. states with democratic leaders with more aggressive can covid restrictions amends things like masking and researchers at binghamton found the blue states had a significantly lower rate of covid spread, 7% to 8% lower in fact according to the research that was just published in the "american journal of preventive medicine." here are the states. 27 republicans, and 23 democrats, red and blue. familiar how that map looks. take a look over here how this played out this. map is covid cases. at the worst ten states. florida, south carolina, arkansas, mississippi, rhode island and nine out of the ten states, nine out of the ten states with the worst case count per population have republican governors and you look at hospitalizations here. right here. of the worst ten states. you see them across the top here. eight of these, in pennsylvania and kentucky you have democratic governors. eight of the states that have the highest hospitalizations rates during covid have republican governors. at that point let's bring the insights and expertise, dr. professor reiner. doctor, once again the numbers and data don't lie. democratic states were more aggressive with things like masking and things like shutdowns and other covid restrictions. the republican states were not and it shows up when you look at cases and you look at hospitalizations without a doubt, right? >> right, and it's not a surprise. you know, a governor has a very heavy hand in a state and a governor can either help or can actively hurt so if the state prohibits, for instance, mask mandates for schools it has an obvious impact, if the governor promotes testing and if a governor during the darkest parts of this pandemic kept the states relatively closed for a long period of time, you know, those closures had the greatest impact on preventing spread, so we've seen -- we've seen governors particularly in the northeast have a very, very proactive beneficial role in preventing the spread of this virus and we've seen governors in the south. i think the one notable exception to sort of the red-blue gubernatorial impact is the state in which i live which is maryland which has governor larry hogan who adopted very proactive mask mandates, kept the state relatively closed for quite a period of time and maryland has one of the lowest rates of covid in the country now so it doesn't have to be split simply by politics but those policies of the -- of those southern states in particular led to the massive spread, particularly this summer. >> i think the republican governors of massachusetts and vermont would agree. if you have the mid-atlantic to the north, those states tended to fare better, republicans and democrats that were more proactive >> you look at hospitalizations and cases that go back to the very beginning. this case gets us into the here and now because we continue to see this play out. the number one challenge in the country is to get people vaccinated. these are the 15 states that are vaccinated less than half of their population, 15 states where less of the half of the population is vaccinated, guess what, 14 of the 15, only louisiana, of the 15 states has a democratic governor, so you see this play out again in terms of public message willing, public pushing, public urging of people to roll up their sleeves. the republican-led states are behind the others when it comes to vaccines. >> right, and as we move into winter what we'll see is we'll see large parts of this country have a relatively tame increase, if any, in covid. those are the states with the highest vaccination rates and then we'll see pockets particularly in south with these extraordinarily low vaccination rates where covid will rear its very ugly head again as people moved indoors during the winter, so these -- these -- we're real going to see a tale of two countries, vaccinated america where covid is relatively contained and unvaccinated america where we're going to see, again, hospitals filled with people as the virus comes back. >> stand by. want to come back to you in a moment on another covid-related issue. right now the question is the numbers speak for themselves in terms of the public health response and the public health impact. the question is what will the politics be, and, again, if you just put up the cases, these are covid cases and a percentage of the population, the ten worst states are up across the top. only one of them has a democratic governor. we know there's a gubernatorial election next year and next year here. florida is one of the states on the worst list here. will we see in campaigns, we did just see in the california recall election, will we see in these campaigns a lot of these states are deep red states, pretty hard for a democrat to win, is the covid response by these governors likely to be number one, number two, maybe behind the economy in these states? >> not necessarily the way you think, and i think we're seeing that in virginia right now, that depending on how red or how purple the state is the response is going to be differently calibrated but on the republican side what is popular the liberty of freedom, the choice to make irresponsible decisions that impact a lot of other people, right, and i think as we're starting to see in virginia this is actually an argument that to some extent resonates with the center if you get it right and we were talking in the last segment about how a lot of republicans in congress know that donald trump did not win the election and that the misinformation he's spewing is dangerous to democracy, but they are going along with it anyway because they want to stay in power and i think there's a parallel here on the covid argument and republican governors all over the country understand the science, they. do they understand it very well, but there is a concern, obviously a political concern about getting too far ahead of your constituents that delivering the scientific news that they need to hear could end your political career and we're seeing that in play. >> seeing that at play. 15 states have vaccinated less than half of their population. all by one have republican governors right now and again you hear time and time again for most of these republican governors, most, not all, there are exceptions and i apologize to them. essentially i would like you to get a vaccine, that's your choice, and if you don't like a mandate why not aggressively advocate. >> i mean, it's a careful calibration that i think actually lines up directly with margaret's point. the interesting thing as we've seen in the white house get more aggressive. let's keep in mind, for the better part of the federal strategy over the course of the first six or seven month they wouldn't touch mandates or requirements which they make it clear it's a mandate, not a requirement. one, it's very effective and it tends to hold fairly well and the question when you look tat through that lens is is it just a matter of these governors not trying it, or are they very clear that it would turn very poorly away from them if they ended up going in that direction, and i think it's a open question right now, but i think there's no question about the fact that the white house believes that the posture they have taken over the course of the last six weeks has been entirely martd and pass paid off politically and through the health policy. >> you do see case counts going down and let's get one other piece of covid news. the drug-maker merck asking for emergency authorization that cuts the risk of hospitalization and death from coronavirus in half. if approved the drug would be the first pill authorized for covid treatment. dr. ryaner is back with us. vaccinations obviously are key. now the idea especially for the high-risk population there could be an at-home oral treatment, a pill, how important would that be? what new weapon would that bring to the covid fight? >> well, i think it's -- it's a major step forward, but as you just said the most important message is not to get infected in the first place, and the most effective tool for that is vaccination, but for people who do get infected and are at risk of either severe illness requiring hospitalization or death, the drug from merck does appear to cut risk of hospitalization in half. interestingly enough importantly there were no deaths in the patients treated with this antiviral, and -- and in contrast to monoclonal antibodies which require an intravenous infusion, this is a prescription your doctor can give you, five-day course of treatment, it's going to cost about $700 in the clinical trial and appear to be very well doll rated and really takes a big bite out of the adverse events on many patients treated with this, so i think it's an important step forward, and it's just another piece of our toolbox as we sort of learn to live with a lower level of covid but without fully eradicating covid from our communities. >> that's the piece i want to get at. you say toolbox. it's how different heading into this winter which we know can be vaccination are much more widely now than last winter and winter can be horrible for covid as it gets colder. a lot more tools in the shed, tools in the box as you put it when it comes to the treatments that didn't exist a year ago. correct? >> right. so we have over 200 million americans have been vaccinated, and it -- if you think about vaccines -- vaccinated people as sort of a fire brake for the virus, last winter the virus burned through all the dry timber but now the -- now 200-plus million americans who have received at least one shot, this is essentially a fire break. we will not see the kind of massive peak we saw in december and january this year. in pockets of the country, it can still be bad, but other pockets will be relatively benign i think this winter. >> dr. reiner, i hope you're absolutely right and i appreciate your time, sir. as always, thank you very much. up next, the democrat in the virginia governor's race plays cleanup. it is a very tight race. the vice president an issue among other things and it has national implications. when you're looking for answers, it's good to have help. because the right information, at the right time, may make all the difference. at humana, we know that's especially true when you're looking for a medicare supplement insurance plan. that's why we're offering "seven things every medicare supplement should have." it's yours, free! just for calling the number on your screen. and when you call, a knowledgeable licensed agent-producer can answer any questions you have, and help you choose the plan that's right for you. the call is free, and there's no obligation. you see, medicare covers only about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. that's why so many people purchase medicare supplement insurance plans, like those offered by humana. they're designed to help you save money, and pay some of the costs medicare doesn't. depending on the medicare supplement plan you select, you could have no deductibles or copayments for doctor visits, hospital stays, emergency care and more! you can keep the doctors you have now, ones you know and trust, with no referrals needed. plus, you can get medical care anywhere in the country, even when you're traveling. with humana, you get a competitive monthly premium and personalized service from a healthcare partner working to make healthcare simpler and easier for you. you can choose from a wide range of standardized plans. each one is designed to work seamlessly with medicare, and help save you money. so, how do you find the plan that's right for you? 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>> harder -- not -- i mean, people understand what i'm doing. >> joining our panel to try to translate for us two reporters reporting extensively on the virginia race. terry mcauliffe on a call he thought was private, nobody, nobody in 2021 should think any call you have is private, sorry, but, you know, telling the truth, right, so why is there such flack over him saying the president's poll numbers are down and that could drag us down? that happens to be a fact. >> never good when a politician plays pundit and any political operative would say that and it's also tree. terry mcauliffe has taken a number of positions on biden. in the primary he was a biden democrat, when biden started to slip a bit he pulled some distance back and when he was on the call he said fed headwinds are against him, attacked congress and now he's trying to clean that up with dana bash but at the same time there is a reason to do this. he's hoping comments about biden, worries about the race, public concerns will turn out democrats, will boost people and get them focused on youngkin and turn people out in november. we'll see if that really, would, but that's part of, you know, part of the strategy is getting people to focus because democrats were concerned for a long time that there wasn't enough focus on this race, that democrats were taking it for granted. >> the flip side though is if you have a discouraged democrat who thinks terry mcauliffe was governor before, old school, i wanted new and then he dissed my president and you don't vote. isn't that the flip side, that you contribute to democratic disenfranchisement. >> he's trying to hope you think that the president sun popular in the state but that doesn't change the reality. that does present -- that does illustrate the very specific dynamics in this race where both terry mcauliffe and glen youngkin are keeping their party leadership at arm's length. they have to keep some distance. we see mcauliffe keeping distance between him and president biden and glen youngkin doing the same thing with president trump. here's just to show you, three weeks out, tomorrow we come the votes. this poll, 48 mcauliffe and 44 youngkin. governor's races tend to be pretty close but virginia has been trending blue and if you're a democrat, you're thinking that's a problem. biden's favorability in the state is 49% and youngkin is 44 and trump is 41. it is a referendum on biden and the democratic agenda and it's a referendum on krump and republican turnout and terry mcauliffe sometimes, sometimes lets the tongue get out ahead of the brain. this is a debate scene where terry mcauliffe says schools, parents, why would i listen to them? >> i don't think parents should be telling schools what they should teach. >> not teach. >> i get tired of everybody running down teachers. >> terry mcauliffe wants to put government, bureaucrats, politicians between parents and their children. terry mcauliffe has sat sit down, be quiet, i don't care what you think. >> terry mcauliffe would like to clean up his words again as he did on call, but it is difficult in a state where a close election will be determined in the fast-growing northern virginia suburbs where you have a lot of parents and a lot of debate about critical race theory and what's being taught in schools, to have a candidate for governor saying i don't want to listen to parents or i -- i would go side with teachers over parents stepping in it. >> clearly a misstep. let's just say for the record in case anyone doesn't know, they don't teach critical race theory to kids in kids k-through, that's not a thing. >> only for a republican candidate. >> it is hotly debated but not actually a thing, so i think for terry mcauliffe there are two challenges, and one is that glen youngkin is not donald trump. if terry mcauliffe was running against donald trump it would be a completely different race but youngkin has a mass appeal to kind of the center or slightly right of center or -- well, probably not left center but center and right of center and that's making this a more real race. he has acquitted himself very well as a candidate and he has taken this deliberate step away from trump, not really -- not really talking trash about trump but being very careful to make clear he's not aligning himself as a trump candidate and that's giving some assurances to virginia voters in the middle and that's gotten mcauliffe in a more defensive position and the other is the school issue because, look, it sounds like what mcauliffe is trying to say i'm not going to let irresponsible parents who are against science terrorize school administrators and making your kids unsafe. that's actually not what he says. it's just not what he said at all so, of course, it will be used against him. >> that's the world we live in, right. >> anything you say can and will be edited and used against you and maybe it's out of context. you mentioned glen youngkin is trying to get a safe distance from donald trump. this interview lasted 13 minutes yesterday on state of the union, 18 times this. >> i'm running against a donald trump wannabe. he wants to do a donald trump and betsy devos education system. this is all trump talk and i'm surprised that trump hasn't gone to virginia yet. we're not going back to the trump world. i think he was trying to bait donald trump coming to virginia which he would like very much. >> he's also trying to take a page out of the playbook of gavin newsom in california by making this a referendum on trumpism and this also isn't california which joe biden won by 30 points n.virginia he only won by ten points. i know that's still a lot but it's not the 30 points and what terry mcauliffe needs to do very well with the independents, the independents that even joe biden that he pointed out is not doing particularly well with quite well and he needs to do well in areas where there's a lot of hispanic voters and black voters and also with suburban women so the question is can joe biden also help him with those if he were to come to the state in what i'm hearing from democrats is they are hoping that more appearances by the vice president kamala harris would potentially help with some of those voters as well. >> one of the things that's different this time is virginia has kept in play the expanded voting from the coronavirus pandemic and you have more early voting and in-person voting which allows a smart campaign to understand the terrain. you know three weeks out do i need to turn out the black voters, am i having a problem with suburban women? there's a lot of data out and these campaigns are smart and you're absolutely right that mcauliffe would gleefully accept trump coming to the state. he told me before the primary was over that he would personally pay for the gas to get trump's plane to virginia because that image of trump shaking hands with youngkin on stage would be played over and over again. that is -- that's the contour of this race, and you're exactly right. there might be -- they might both be keeping their party leadership at arm's length but it's going to determine this race. is biden more popular, is trump more popular, that's going to be a huge factor in this race. >> it could backfire mcauliffe constantly invoking trump. that also inspires republicans and that's what republicans want to here. >> three weeks from tonight we get to count votes. i bet you a dollar biden ends up there before the election to turn out voters. >> the president tells us unity is the key to the 2022 mid terms but a big family feud right now complicating efforts to pass the government's agenda. regina approaches the all-electric cadillac lyriq. it's a sunny day. nah, a stormy day. classical music plays. um uh, brass band, new orleans. ♪ ♪ she drives hands free... along the coast. make it palm springs. ♪ cadillac is going electric. if you want to be bold, you have to go off-script. experience the all-electric cadillac lyriq. you founded your kayak company because you love the ocean- not spreadsheets. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. indeed instant match instantly delivers quality candidates matching your job description. visit indeed.com/hire oh! are you using liberty mutual's coverage customizer tool? 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does he mean that sinema and manchin should not keep calling the liberals in the house unrealistic big spenders, is that what he means? >> there's a dwindling number of options here, john. mitch mcconnell said the republicans won't help them out again when it comes to the debt ceiling, that's out of the question and he could either tell joe manchin and sinema as well this is what's going to happen or what's happening in the break here he could take terry mcauliffe's advice and put everyone in a room and say no one is leaving until we get this done, but he is facing a dwindling number of options, particularly if the target date is the end of the date. the debt ceiling bill should happen and the democrats hoped to pass the reconciliation bill but that deadline pass. the more you're talking the longer you have things like this on the sunday shows debating. >> i think the ultimate price will be around $2 trillion. i'm really optimistic we'll get both of these bills to president biden's desk by the end of this month, hopefully, possibly by the end of the year. >> i know senator manchin. i know the people involved in this. i've been in the rooms. we will get these bills done. >> both optimistic, phil mattingly, and senator coons is significant because he has the president's old senate seat and they are very, very close so when he says $2 trillion he's not making that number up. the question is at what point will the president decide, or will the president decide that this is messy and it's hurting us to be doing this in public and hurting my public opinion polling for us to do this in public. let's come to the white house and sort it out in private? >> you know, i think the conclusion from the president up to this point has been trying to force the hands of senators manchin and sinema which is the worst way to go about this. much to the frustration and chagrin of progressives who say you need to know where you stand. you need to tell them this is my top line and these are the elements inside and we're moving forward. he's decided not to do that to this both. i think you're coming to a moment now where things are very clearly coming to a ed half the biggest question as you talk about the dynamics of the policies of the top line. they need to make a decision about what's inside. everybody knows it's going to be somewhere, they are shooting between $1.8 drill crop and $2.2 trillion. the top line is not issue. what's inside, it do the full scale with shorter duration of what progressive and the president wants? those are really complicated and very meaningful impactful decisions that have to be made hand made now. >> it does seem like for right now that's where they are tracking. so far at this moment it does seem like there's an effort to keep everybody -- all the programs in the tent together because that's where all the people are. the people who want telecare really want it. the people who want some element of subsidized college really want it and the people who want broadband really want it and they don't want all each other's stuff so they won't all be happy if they lose something. axios has a partnership with generation lab that does polling on 18 to 29-year-olds and we got these numbers back, fascinating. two-thirds of young people, people under 30 in america, two-thirds of people think that congress should pass something and a majority thinks that -- or about half thinks that if they pass anything, whether it's infrastructure or reconciliation, that it will help democrats, it will help biden, but they are completely split on which way to do it, half want the infrastructure and half want the whole enchilada and if that's young people who are more liberal and want more social spending, then it helps explain how it's so ineccentricable. >> 50 states, a complicated puzzle to put together. up next, george clooney talks politics and by that i mean talks trump. i've always dreamed of seeing the world. but i'm not chasing my dream anymore. i made a financial plan to live it every day. ♪ ♪ find a northwestern mutual advisor at nm.com hello, for the last few years, i've been a little obsessed with chasing the big idaho potato truck. but it's not like that's my only interest. i also love cooking with heart-healthy, idaho potatoes. always look for the grown in idaho seal. ♪ your new pharmacy is here. to help you compare prices, and save on your medication. amazon prime members get select meds as low as $1 a month. who knew it could be this easy? 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