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far as we know. cnn's evan perez has been combing through the senate judiciary report. what have you learned? >> well, victor, we know that by the time this -- the period that this report covers, we know that by the time -- by the end of december, the justice department had already looked into these claims of voter fraud, had found nothing. we know that the president -- the former president's legal team had struck out with the states and with the courts, and this report covers a period of a week and a half or so which was just extraordinary, where you have top justice department officials, including jeffrey rosen, who was the acting attorney general, essentially under a barrage of pressure from the president, from mark meadows, to try to weigh in and have the justice department on the side of the president with regard to this -- these claims of vote fraud. couple things that stood out to us. nine times that the president himself reached out to rosen, to his deputy, richard donahue, to try to pressure them to try to do something to help his cause. trump also was essentially trying to figure out how to install jeffery clark, a lower level official, who he believed was going to try to do some of these things. and we know that this led to an extraordinary meeting at the end of december where a number of officials were threatening to resign, including pat cipollone, who was the top lawyer inside the white house counsel, who told the president that this idea of putting clark in to try to carry out his wishes was a murder/suicide pact, essentially telling the president, don't do this because everybody's going to resign, and this is all going to collapse around you. victor? >> it's just jaw-dropping, what we learned from this report. evan perez, thank you so much. let's talk about these subpoenas now. it is deadline day for the four trump loyalists. last month, the committee issued the subpoenas for mark meadows, dan scavino, steve bannon and kash patel. they're supposed to comply by the end of the day and provide documents and records. it seems they are not cooperating so far. cnn congressional correspondent ryan nobles joins us live from capitol hill. so, the four are also supposed to appear before this committee for closed door depositions next week. where does all of this stand? >> reporter: well, all of it is very much in doubt, victor. as you point out, the committee is anticipating, even preparing for this group of four men not to comply with the subpoena request, not only the document request that is due at midnight tonight but also that in-person deposition that is scheduled for next week. so the big question right now is if they don't get that cooperation, what steps will they take to attempt to encourage it? and the committee has been very forthright that they have a number of tools at their disposal, including criminal contempt, and they won't hesitate to use it if they think it is necessary. listen to what congressman jason crow, who's not a member of the committee, but is tuned into this conversation had to say about it. >> if they continue to disregard the subpoenas, i'm going to highly encourage the authorities to pursue criminal contempt. if you refuse a subpoena, there are consequences for you, so there darn well should be consequences for the president and his top enablers and cronies. >> reporter: now, a criminal contempt referral would not be easy, victor. it would take time. it would require a vote of the entire house of representatives and then a referral to the department of justice to execute, so that may not be the route they want to take immediately. the point being, though, is that the committee says that they are willing to do whatever it takes. we'll have to see over the next 24 to 48 hours exactly what that means. >> ryan, there's also a source that tells cnn that this committee interviewed richard donahue, who served as the acting deputy attorney general during the capitol attacks. what do we know about that, and who else might be interested in speaking with him? >> reporter: well, obviously, as you heard from evan's report right before me, looird looird richard donahue is a key player in everything that happened in the post-election period of the trump department of justice and in particular, he was listening to a call between the former president and the then acting attorney general at the time where trump was putting pressure on the acting attorney general to take steps to overturn the 2020 election. he was also in that office on the day of january 6th, so donahue voluntarily was a part of an interview process, we're told last week. we don't know exactly what came out of it but there was a lot of interest in what he had to say. the committee's interviewed a lot of people behind closed doors. we don't know the full extent of all of it but we do know that they are interested in talking to the facebook whistle-blower, frances haugen. that could have happened as soon as today but we're told there's some working of the schedule that we don't know exactly when that is going to take place. but she, of course, could perhaps shed some light on how facebook was used by some of the rioters on that day to either coordinate or even amplify some of the rhetoric that was centered around that stop the steal rally and the big lie having to do with the election as well. so, the committee's work is busy. they continue to do a lot, even if they don't get those compliance with the subpoenas that they're hoping for. >> lot to get done. ryan nobles on capitol hill, thank you so much. we've got a lot to talk about so let's start with e elie honig and kim. republicans have released a rebuttal of sorts to the committee's report. senator grassley, from his office, wrote this. based on the available evidence and witness testimony, president trump's actions were consistent with his responsibilities as president to faithfully execute the law and oversee the executive branch. i struggle to see how you get that out of what we've read, but also, talk to me about accountability and the immediate next steps. >> yeah, i don't know what world senator grassley is living in or what facts he's looking at but accountability is really the key term here, victor. and i think the key person we have to be looking at is the attorney general, merrick kbakb garland. the senate has done its thing, they've issued a report. it's damning but does it deter donald trump, jeffery clark, mark meadows? no. the only person who's in real position here to enact an accountability in a meaningful way is the attorney general, merrick garland. >> so, kim, talk to me about that. what are the options if they do not comply with these subpoenas? what can congress do? >> well, congress can issue -- use its own inherent power to have a sergeant-at-arms actually arrest these folks. it's rarely been used but i think recently jamie raskin mentioned it. they could file a civil action and have a judge order compliance and then get contempt of court if they don't go along with that or as was mentioned, they could ask the department of justice to criminally hold them in contempt. that was not an option on the table during the trump administration, of course, because trump was basically -- chose his own people in the justice department. that's how the tables have turned a bit, but i must say, the democrats in part have themselves to blame for not moving on some subpoenas that were ignored during the trump administration. john bolton in the first impeachment proceedings, for example, and then many in the second impeachment proceedings, so the contempt power has been vastly diluted but the issue in this moment is we just have to think, victor, if donald trump gets in office again, there will not be any mike pences or pat cipollones or jefferey rosens that are going to push back. it will be a full lockdown and the department of justice authority does not extend to ignoring election results and that's where chuck grassley is flatout wrong. >> we heard from stephanie grisham earlier this week if former president trump is elected again, she expects the january 6th crowd will be making up the staffing at the white house. elie, we've talked before about the degree of what you have described as timidity from the attorney general, and historically, the processes of getting these people in takes a very long time. is there any real hope of congress getting the answers they want without the strong action from the a.g.? >> i think the short answer, victor, is no. the calendar is very much a factor here. kim's right. these things take forever in courts. don mcgahn, that subpoena dispute took nearly two years. this committee does not have anything near that amount of time. we're nine months out now from january 6th. this committee's really just getting started and i think there's a couple different actors here. the committee itself needs to be ready to take quick and decisive action. judges, if these disputes come before them, civil or criminal, they can't take two years or six months. they need to move these cases to the top of the docket and ultimately merrick garland, will he issue criminal scharjs if there's a referral? will he investigate election interference in a meaningful way? those are the only actors that can speed things up. >> the january 6th commission wants to speak with the facebook whistle-blower, frances haugen. tell us what you expect they can get from her. >> well, i think they're broadly looking at the extent to which private actors, we saw in the report, also members of the pennsylvania republican state delegation, how much there was concerted effort around the january 6th insurrection, but i want to put a pin in another option for congress in this moment. so, the report mentions that the president, former president, might have actually violated criminal obstruction laws as well as a hatch act so there's accountability that way through the department of justice but there's nothing preventing this congress, except, i should say, the filibuster, infrastructure, other priorities, from passing legislation to cabin or narrow the ability of future presidents to do this kind of damage to the constitution. that's what happened post-nixon, and this particular congress basically has a year until the midterms to get democracy back in order for the american people. >> kim, when's the last time that anybody's faced consequences under the hatch act? >> i don't know. that's probably a question for the history books, i would agree, but we have -- we are in uncharted waters, victor, on so many levels. as a constitutional law professor, i don't need to make up hypotheticals anymore because life is outliving the imagination under this past president and what we're living through right now when it comes to the degradation of democracy itself in america. >> yeah, real-life examples of constitutional crises that this country's facing. elie, one more to you. we're getting through the thousands of documents that cnn's great folks have been looking through about some of the president's allies. after the election, the claims about dominion voting and they really had no idea what they were talking about because they didn't spend time even to review the facts. >> yeah. first of all, let it be known, they knew. they knew this was nonsense, and they got out there and they spouted it anyway. we are seeing some meaningful accountability now towards rudy giuliani, sidney powell. rudy had his law license suspended, sidney powell has faced sanctions, there are lawsuits for defamation, that means to knowingly make a false statement and damage somebody. these weren't just mistakes or negligence. they lied and they did it on purpose. >> all right. elie honig, kim wehle, thank you both. a potential pandemic game changer, pfizer officially asked the government to approve its covid vaccine, correction, authorize its covid vaccine for children 5 through 11. plus, president biden is arriving in chicago. he's speaking next hour on the importance of vaccine requirements. we have much more on the president's trip next. i've always dreamed of seeing the world. but i'm not chasing my dream anymore. i made a financial plan to live it every day. ♪ ♪ find a northwestern mutual advisor at nm.com you get more with aarp medicare advantage plans from unitedhealthcare. like $0 copays on tier 1 and tier 2 prescription drugs. ♪ wow! ♪ ♪ uh-huh. ♪ $0 copays on primary care visits. ♪ wow! ♪ ♪ uh-huh. ♪ and with unitedhealthcare, you get access to medicare advantage's largest provider network. ♪ wow! ♪ ♪ uh-huh. ♪ most plans even have a $0 premium. so go ahead. take advantage now. ♪ wow! ♪ you have the best pizza in town and the worst wait times. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. indeed instant match instantly delivers quality candidates matching your job description. visit indeed.com/hire regina approaches the all-electric cadillac lyriq. it's a sunny day. nah, a stormy day. classical music plays. um uh, brass band, new orleans. ♪ ♪ she drives hands free... along the coast. make it palm springs. ♪ cadillac is going electric. if you want to be bold, you have to go off-script. experience the all-electric cadillac lyriq. sustainability is essential to creating a better tomorrow. that's why cisco is committed to achieving net zero emissions by 2040. and we believe our smart buildings solutions can help. providing power to reduce emissions, intelligence to eliminate waste, and collaboration tools that help the workplace and the planet. between meeting human needs and a sustainable future, there's a bridge. cisco, the bridge to possible. ♪darling, i, i can't get enough of your love babe♪ ♪girl, i don't know, i don't know,♪ ♪i don't know why i can't get enough of your love babe♪ ♪oh no, babe girl, if i could only make you see♪ ♪and make you understand♪ get a dozen double crunch shrimp for $1 with any steak entrée. only at applebee's. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood. pfizer has asked the fda to authorize emergency use of its vaccine for children, ages 5 to 11. this is a big step in the fight against the pandemic as the nation appears to be turning into a positive direction. the white house says it's ready to get those shots into kids' arms. >> if there is approval or authorization and the cdc recommendation, we are ready. we have the supply. we're working with states to set up convenient locations for parents and kids to get vaccinated, including pediatricians' offices and community sites. >> all right, joining us now, cnn chief medical correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta. sanjay, first, good to see you in-person here in new york. >> yeah, i know. >> every conversation probably for the last seven months i have been asking doctors across the country, what do you think we're going to get some advancement for younger kids? this is a big move. >> it is a big move and it means that pfizer feels like they got the goods in terms of the data now. we've been hearing about these trials for some time. they started in march in kids this young so several months, this has been going on and they feel like they've shown the vaccine is safe. the side effects seem very similar to what they see in people who are older, even adolescents and older adults, but it's also effective. they're making enough of these antibodies in response to the vaccine. that's been the crucial question. what is interesting here, victor, is that they're using a much smaller dose. they're using a third the dose, so 30 micrograms of the dose of both shots for adults, anyone older than this age group. that's going to be 10 micrograms and they think that's going to give them plenty of antibodies, but also have fewer side effects. >> which is interesting, because i think about who i was, physically, at 11 years old. i've always been, let's call it, brawny. at 11 years old, i had more in common with a 16-year-old than i did a 5-year-old. >> it is interesting, and you know, these cutoffs do get somewhat arbitrary. it's difficult to dose these types of vaccines by weight, which is what you do for a lot of medications. you say, such a dose per kilogram or something like that. with a flu shot, for example, it's basically the same dose for everybody. child or adult. so, it is a bit arbitrary. but i think it's good, actually, that they reduced the dose here because the side effects of sore arm and just feeling miserable for a couple days will be reduced as a result of this. they were still able to get the same level of protection so you're not sacrificing one for the other. >> so, i know that there are a lot of parents who have been waiting for this. but there's still a significant amount of parents who are not immediately going to rush out and get their kids vaccinated and are going to, some, avoid it altogether. there's a pr campaign that has to happen for some of these parents. >> yeah, i mean, that's interesting. there's a lot of people who are very excited but only about a third of parents, roughly, say they're going to rush out and get this. it's a little bit better than, i think, what we saw in july when they look at that polling data now in september, significant percentage still say you can see it there, who say, definitely not. about a quarter of people. those numbers may change a little bit, victor, if the fda authorizes this. that's an affirmation. but you know, i think the case has to be made that while kids are less likely to get sick, and that's absolutely true, they're less likely to get sick or severely sick, that it can still happen. if they do, they can still develop long-lasting symptoms, which is really -- it's concerning. to have people who just have not terrible symptoms but symptoms that linger for months, but also, victor, the larger issue of the collective. i think we're getting close to where we might be able to look at this thing in the rear view mirror, won't be gone, but we'll have it under control. and a really important way to get there is to get more people immunity. so these kids up playing a role not only for themselves but for the larger collective. >> we have certainly seen some promising declines in hospitalizations, deaths, new cases. hopefully this trend continues. >> yeah. >> dr. sanjay gupta, good to see you. all right, president biden is set to speak next hour in illinois to boost support for vaccine mandates. there's a new report from the white house that shows that vaccine requirements work, cutting the number of unvaccinated americans by a third since the end of july. cnn's chief national affairs correspondent jeff zeleny is traveling with the president. first, he's got some meetings. who's he meeting with, jeff? >> reporter: well, victor, president biden landed, as you said, just a few moments ago and he will be meeting with the illinois governor, j.b. pritzker as well as he had a pretty extended conversation on the tarmac at o'hare international airport with chicago mayor lori lightfoot but he'll also be meeting when he's here in illinois with the united airlines ceo, scott kirby, and that, of course, is to talk about the vaccination mandates. this is something that the white house got behind a couple months ago to urge businesses to require their employers -- employees to be vaccinated. and united airlines has been one of those big companies leading the way on this. virtually all united airlines employees now are vaccinated because of that mandate. so, the president is going to be talking with the united ceo about that as well as other business leaders here and you mentioned that white house report. the analysis of the number of vaccinated americans actually quite interesting, victor. let's take a look at those numbers. there were 95 million unvaccinated americans who were eligible in july. now that number is down to 67 million. it is because of mandates at places of business. starting with the federal government, going into the private sector, so the white house really believes that this has been one of the things that is helping to turn the corner of getting more americans vaccinated. we have seen lotteries and contests and giveaways throughout the year, but it has been these business mandates that really has sort of changed the course of this. but one also question hanging over all this is what if the white house had done this earlier? they were so opposed to mandates from the beginning of the year, thinking they were politically unpopular but now it's worked. that will be part of the legacy of all this here. but the president will be visiting a construction company here which also is requiring its employees to be mandated to have the covid-19 vaccine, so simply trying to shine a light on that. and of course, all of this, victor, is as the president's traveling here, the white house keeping a close eye on those debt ceilings arguments on capitol hill. jeremy diamond asked the president if he's hopeful for a deal and he crossed his fingers like this. seemed pretty hopeful. >> jeff zeleny there in elk groves village, illinois. jeff, thank you very much. let's talk about this debt deal. it is done for now. what it could mean for the biden agenda and why we'll likely be doing this whole thing again too soon. plus, brian laundrie's father is helping police today in the search for his son. we've got details on that. what happens when we welcome change? 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>> reporter: well, we don't know yet, victor. we're waiting to see. we have the deal, as you mentioned. you laid it out there. but what's happening right now behind the scenes is that republicans, some republicans, are objecting to mitch mcconnell's plan to move this forward. now, we still expect this deal to go through. it's right now, about how are they going to get to that point? republican leadership had hoped to avoid a procedural vote that would require 60 votes to move forward, but there are some members of -- some senate republicans who are objecting to that. that's slowing down the process. so, if they have to do 60 votes, that means mitch mcconnell is going to have to find ten republicans to let this go forward. again, allow this procedure to move forward. and that is proving tricky as well, victor, because remember, we have heard from across the republican party, i've heard again and again from various republicans, senate republicans, a lot of moderates even, who were saying, i'm not going to vote for a debt ceiling increase, so they're a bit in a pickle right now. we have to see how they work that out within the senate republicans. >> okay, so, let's say that they get the, if needed, ten republicans to seal this deal. this only takes the country through a few weeks, what do the next few weeks look like? >> reporter: deja vu all over again. we're going to be back where we were. they avoided a government shutdown. that was last week. they're going to get this temporary debt ceiling accomplished, but then we're looking at these deadlines just down the road in december, and democrats are remaining adamant, victor, they're not using this budget process called reconciliation in order to do that. so, the question becomes, okay, how are they going to do that and what has fundamentally changed here? because republicans, again, are saying, we're not going to participate in this in any way, shape, or form. so we're going to see a lot of the same all over again, just a few weeks down the road. >> well, one way they can do it is by this carveout in the filibuster. we know that senator joe manchin is at the top of the list of people who opposes that carveout. met with the president today. do we know anything about that meeting? >> reporter: well, that meeting, they were talking about, he didn't say much, but he did say they had a good conversation as they always have, of course, manchin is the lynchpin or one of the lynchpins in moving their massive economic package forward. he wants to keep that at $1.5 trillion. many democrats want it closer to $3.5 trillion. there's a wide gap between those two numbers. they're trying to figure out what that is and what they can put in that package. so, those negotiations continue. he also said, victor, he is not for carving -- a carveout or any changes to the filibuster. again, joe manchin has been consistent. i've heard him say again and again and again, as we've asked him about this, he's not making any changes to that. now, our reporting indicates that mcconnell was getting concerned about the pressure that was going on, manchin and k kyrsten sinema, but manchin saying again he was not considering that. >> jessica dean with all the fast-moving developments on capitol hill. thank you. so, we have new video of brian laundrie's father after police -- he now is helping police search for his son. we have a live update on where investigators are focusing their efforts now. some things are good to know. like where to find the cheapest gas in town, and which supermarket gives you the most bang for your buck. something else that's good to know? 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>> well, the attorney from the family tells cnn that actually what happened was that verbally, the family told weeks ago to the fbi when they went into the home, when they spoke with them, that this was the area that he loved. they told them the trails that he liked to go on, verbally, but since then, the police have asked the family, can he go out to the nature preserve to actually help us, show us where brian liked to camp, where he liked to walk, where he liked to hike, and so conceivably, that is what the father was doing. but he just arrived back to the home a few minutes ago. he was out there. he drove away. we got the video in the red pickup to the carlton reserve, which is 25,000 acres. you know, we've heard 75% of it is under water and there's alligators and snakes, but he was there with law enforcement, trying to help them. now, here's what's interesting, victor. the family, through their attorney, is telling cnn that they believe that's where he is. they don't believe that their son is anywhere but the carlton reserve, and that's important right there because, do they know? it appears as though law enforcement is relying upon what they're saying. >> yeah. >> because there have been so many resources out there, and really, yesterday, they sent more again out there, and -- but at this point, he's back home. >> early on, there was some thought that sending them to the reserve was a decoy, to make sure that laundrie could get away or get some distance between himself and florida. let's talk about this camp site. >> right. >> because there's a family friend that tells cnn that police found this campsite. police are now disputing that. what do you know? >> exactly. and the way this came about last night is the source close to the family told our own chris cuomo that police were requesting chris laundrie, the father, to go out and help them and to search and find the trails, but they had actually found the remnants of what they thought was a recent campsite, and so because of that, they didn't want him to go out yesterday, so they were holding off. well, now, police, and a police spokesperson is telling cnn that no campsite was found. and they are saying that, you know, quite possibly, by air, maybe they thought they saw something, but there is nothing. conceivably, bottom line, no campsite so that's what we're learning now but we went back to the source, chris did, to see what they had to say, and they confirmed that yesterday they were told by police that there was -- were the remnants of a recent campsite. and that could have been substantial. >> yeah. certainly. if, of course, if it was related to laundrie himself. we're also hearing more from the petito family. right? >> we are. and they are describing what they found at the site. i mean, we're learning, you know, we don't know what the crime scene was like there in wyoming, nor should we, because that's part of the investigation. but we have learned about that they led the stepfather to where gabby was found and he did describe that there was a fire ring in the area, conceivably that's what it looked like to him, an area where he would have pitched a tent. we don't know if any of that is factual but it allowed them to place the stones of the cross where she actually was found. >> all right. jean casarez, thank you so much for the latest on this. so many twists and turns every single day. >> absolutely. >> thank you for following them. a federal judge has blocked the controversial texas abortion law at least for now. up next, the president and ceo of planned parenthood tells us where the legal fight goes from here. sustainability is essential to creating a better tomorrow. that's why cisco is committed to achieving net zero emissions by 2040. and we believe our smart buildings solutions can help. providing power to reduce emissions, intelligence to eliminate waste, and collaboration tools that help the workplace and the planet. between meeting human needs and a sustainable future, there's a bridge. cisco, the bridge to possible. age before beauty? 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"fully aware that depriving its citizens of this right by direct state action would be flagrantly unconstitutional, the state contrived an unprecedented and transparent statutory scheme to do just that." joining me now is alexis mcgill johnson, the president and ceo of planned parenthood. let me start with what this means right now. does this mean that pregnant people in the state of texas, from your understanding, further along than six weeks when the fetal heartbeat is typically detected, can get abortions today? >> well, technically, yes, but you know, every abortion provider is trying to figure out what is possible for their patients in the wake of last night's ruling. you know, texas abortion restrictions were already incredibly complicated. they required most -- they required patients to come in twice within 24 hours to see the same doctor. many of the providers right now are also, you know, dealing with essentially the last 37 days of addressing the impact of, you know, of sb8 on their patients and on their staff and on their call centers. and so, it is certainly technically feasible, but i know that every provider in the state of texas is trying to consider how best to support patients right now while we're also waiting to hear from the fifth circuit, knowing that the state of texas has already appealed. >> so, generally, your reaction to what you read -- and this language was especially sharp from this judge. >> i mean, i think judge pittman was incredibly clear. this was a scheme to deny the constitutional protection, constitutional rights for the people of texas who could get pregnant. i think that it was incredibly compelling and thoughtful, the ways in which the patient's stories, you know, to remember that the patients are at the center of this ban, they're on the other side of it, the patient impact, i thought, was particularly compelling and it was really, i mean, very important victory, however long it lasts in texas for, i think, people who support access to abortion. >> well, you and he, judge pittman, i'm speaking of, acknowledge that this fight is not over. let me read a little more from this ruling. "that other courts may find a way to avoid this conclusion is theirs to decide. this court will not sanction one more day of this offensive deprivation of such an important right." this now goes to, and we know, the attorney general there says that the state will appeal. it goes to the fifth circuit court of appeals, which is one of, if not the most conservative courts of appeal in the country. abortion providers have won this battle. what's your outlook on the war? >> look, i mean, i think as i quoted at the rally this weekend, you know, like dr. king, the arc is long but it bends towards justice, and we are seeking abortion justice. we are -- will be continuing to fight. the war is not over. last night's order was very clear about the devastating impact of patients and we're going to continue to fight not only in texas but in all of these other states that think they can put these copy cat laws into place. there's no state in the union where banning abortion is popular, so we will be using all of our levers. we will be fighting in the courts. we will be fighting on the ground. and we will be ensuring that all of lawmakers understand the impact that this decision will be >> you talked about what it's meant for abortion providers. what have these last 36 days meant for women seeking an abortion across texas? i read in the "new york times" just anecdotally that there is a clinic in oklahoma that now sees 60% of their patients coming from the state of texas. what has been the impact? >> well, it's exactly right, it's the ripple effect. the patients -- we saw 85% of our patients in texas at planned parenthood affiliates came in six weeks prior to sv-8. those patients over the last 37 days have been traveling to neighboring states. they've been going to new mexico, to oklahoma. those places have been booked out three weeks in advance in some cases. we just saw a patient in vermont that was from texas, oregon. think about the ripple effect, the people in those states who are now being pushed out because of the impact of sb-8 hitting those other states. the reality is there aren't enough providers of abortion and abortion access, and this country is limited already as our colleagues in the reproductive justice movement. roe v. wade is meaningless if you don't have a way to access it. the way it has been chipped away with ban after ban after ban in the last decade. >> alexis mcgill johnson, thanks so much. >> thanks for having me. let's talk about what's happening in alabama. heavy rain sparked some treacherous flash flooding in the state overnight. at least four people are dead, including a four-year-old. dozens of people near birmi ingm had to be rescued from their cars. it happened in just a short period of time, a few hours. a slow-moving storm could dump even more rain, several inches, today. some parts of alabama have gotten more than a foot of rain this week. pfizer just asked the government to authorize vaccines for kids ages 5 to 11, and with cases and hospitalizations and deaths all falling, are we finally turning the corner on the pandemic? we'll talk about it. this is the planning effect. if you ask suzie about the future, she'll say she's got goals. and since she's got goals, she might need help reaching them, and so she'll get some help from fidelity, and at fidelity, someone will help her create a plan for all her goals, which means suzie will be feeling so good about that plan, she can just enjoy right now. that's the planning effect, from fidelity. as a dj, i know all about customization. that's why i love liberty mutual. they customize my car insurance, so i only pay for what i need. how about a throwback? you got it. ♪ liberty, liberty - liberty, liberty ♪ uh, i'll settle for something i can dance to. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪ ♪ ♪ only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪ ♪ ♪ there are beautiful ideas that remain in the dark. but with our new multi-cloud experience, you have the flexibility you need to unveil them to the world. ♪ [ marcia ] my dental health was not good. i had periodontal disease, and i just didn't feel well. but then i found clearchoice. 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