mitch mcconnell and chuck schumer agree to kick the can down the road, but in the meantime the u.s. government will not default and the stock market is rallying. we begin with the potential pandemic game-changing for american parents and their young children. pfizer officially asked the government to okay its covid vaccine for children ages 5 through 11. the fda vaccine committee meets later this month and if it meets and approves the authorization request some 28 million children should be eligible for shots and the white house is telling cnn it's ready for a rapid rollout. >> if there is approval or authorization and the cdc recommendation, we are ready. we have the supply. we're working with states to set up convenient locations for parents and kids to get vaccinated, including pediatricians' offices and community sites. >> let's get straight to cnn medical correspondent elizabeth cohen with more. elizabeth, this is a big deal. >> job, this really is a big deal. i can tell you in our 14-year-old daughter was able to be vaccinated, the sense of relief my family felt, i'm so glad that hopefully soon parents of ages of children 5 to 11 might get to feel that same relief so the question on everyone's mind is, okay, they have applied for emergency use authorization. how quickly might that happen. let's take a look at what might happen with adults at the end of last year when faizer filed their emergency use authorization. let's see what happened after that. so, what happened -- we'll talk about actually with the kids. so with the children, the fda advisers are meeting october 26th, so this external group of advisers that will go over every detail of this are meeting october 26th. for adults the cdc gave the green light to the vaccine two days after the fda advisers met last year. it just took them two days to give a green light. i'm not saying that it will happen quite that quickly but gives you sort of a feeling for how quickly this might half. let's take a look at data that we know for nyeser's clinical trial with children ages 5 to 11. it's not everything, but it's something, so there were more than 2,200 participants. they were given a dose that was one-third size of the dose that was given to adults, and pfizer says that the vaccine was safe and generated robust antibody responses. now, john, i want to be clear here. that's not what the fda is looking for. they are not looking to see what antibodies did. i mean, that's interesting. that's not the bottom line. the bottom line is were these children protected against covid? one would guess that they were or pfizer wouldn't be applying for this emergency use authorization, but we don't know yet what the numbers look like. john? >> grateful for leading us off. let's get perspective from the co-director of the pediatric infectious disease division at university of alabama at birmington. pfizer has asked for emergency use authorization and we know the advisers meet at the end of the month. is it likely that children 5 through 11 will be eligible for a vaccine shortly after halloween? >> i think it's likely that that will half. i will say that we've not actually seen the date a. the zeta set has been submitted to the food and drug administration, and they are doing a very deep dive into the data set to make sure that safety is there and immunogenecity is comparable to the adults and young adults. that review sunday way and as the fda makes the public presentation to the external advisory commit on october 26th, that's really when we'll see more about the data set. based on what we've seen already in young adults and in sort of the mid-age range adolescents, the 12 to 15-year-olds, i would expect we'll see good immunogenecity, i think we need to see that first before we get ahead of ourselves. >> appreciate that. the white house seems ready. i want your perspective on whether they learned important lessons about the vaccine hesitancy and the rollout on the adults. jeff zients says number one, they are ready to do this, and number two, pfizer is prepared to prepare the boxes of 100 doses and not 1,000 doses and can you take it to a smaller town and you can store it where. does it appear to you they have a better plan as we move on to the next group? >> i think our nation is definitely in good shape in terms of being able to roll this out if authorization for 5 through 11-year-olds is made and the cdc makes a recommendation for use. i mean, think about it. this is the pediatrician's wheelhouse. this is what she and he do every single day in terms of giving vaccines that are life saving to children, so i do think we're going nobody a strong position to have a rapid rollout i think the real key is to get enough parents interested in having their children vaccinated so that we have a maximal effect on keeping our schools own, for example, on not spreading more virus to older people and elderly grandparents, for example, those are the kinds of things i think we have to do in partnership with families. >> and things that a pediatrician is more likely to be persuasive to a parent than some large institution for which they are familiar. as we continue the conversation, let's walk through where we are right now. no doubt that we're making progress. seven-day average of cases down 11% just since last week. a week ago we were at 114,000 plus new infections a day and wednesday it was 101. the daily rate is actually below where the average is right now. in the context of perhaps having this authorization of vaccines for childrens age 5 to 11, how much impact would it have on this, something that you see every day, the number of children hospitalized with covid-19. you see the trend line and that's encouraging. it's going down. but there are still more on this day more than 1,800 of our children hospitalized with covid. how much would having the vaccine available to 28 million more children make a difference in that number? >> i think it will make a big difference, but i don't think it's going to be an immediate kind of difference. you know, even in the deep south where we were hit enormously hard by the dealt aa wave that just slammed us so badly, you know in, august and september, we had increases, incremental increases in our vaccination rates but not enough to it, you know, achieve that herd immunity kind of impact that we would all strive to get towards so i think that having the vaccine for the 5 through 11-year-olds will definitely be helpful, but other thing that's probably more immediately of benefit is that knowledge of masking inside whether you're vaccinated or not, if you're in an area of the country or an area of the state where there are high levels of transmission or substantial levels of transmission and doing the kinds of social distancing, things we know through tried and true months of effort here through this pandemic that we know really work. >> that brings me precisely to where i want to come in the conversation. first i want to bring up the case. i'm reluctant at times to say it looks like we're turning a corner. we all lived through this in 2020 and the fall of 2020 and into the winter and early 2021 so you see this. this was our summer experience, and you see we're starting to come down, but if you look at broder metrics, cases, hospitalizations and deaths are all coming down right now. 66% of americans who are eligible to get a vaccine have indeed been vaccinated. we do see in the data vaccine mandates are having an impact. there are fewer infections in schools that you noted this, schools that require masks are reporting way lower infection rates than those that don't require it and vaccines would be made available soon for children age 5 to 11. are we at a point that by thanksgiving, covid is still with us and the ugly pandemic phase is still behind us or is that unclear? >> i think it would be unclear for some time. i would love to be able to say that. the honest answer is none of us have that crystal ball and every single time we've gotten through a horrific wave and we relax and breathe easier and think it has to be over now there's another wave that comes. additionally there won't be enough waves and i hope that as we move through this delta fiasco that as we get to the other side that have there won't be a mu variant waive, for instance, that's coming at us so the best things that americans with do right now and if you're in an age group including 5 to 11-year-olds, if you're in an age group that can get the vaccine and you've not been vaccinated, roll up your sleeve and get vaccinated, and if you're in a country where there's substantial or high levels of transmission in your count can i, for example, continue to wear masks inside and politely ask your neighbors to do the same. >> grateful for your time, doctor. more data are and insight in the days ahead. up next, these four allies of donald trump on the clock to supply with subpoenas to the 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top white house lawyer described as a murder-suicide pact meaning he and others would stage mass resignations if trump followed through on his threats. with me now to share their reporting and their insights, jackie kucinich of "the daily beast, a writer with "new york times" and claudia versales and lauro coates from cnn. nine times, the senate reports, at least nine times the then president of the united states tried to get j.t. justice department to overturn election results and his chief of staff violated clearly defined policy in picking up the phone and asking the justice department to asking it to do things that you're not supposed to do so we continue to learn more. for many people they will say i've heard this before but the details are important to get to the depth to which the former president tried to hold power. >> and the depth of which we need to do to deter this from happening in the future and that's congress' part to legislate deterrence and figure out if there's some way to punish what happened. the nine times and asks came after other attempts, the fermenting of the big lie, the metastasizing of the big lie and the attempts across country even without information or widespread fraud, remember not my word, the former attorney general william barr said there was no evidence of these things and in court they conceded time and time again there was no there there. then you have the ultimate act to use the department of justice, supposed to be an apolitical entity in our government when this walk into the courthouse this they cannot be tannished. these what you think of as a constitutional trial. only two people stood in the way of a murderous suicide pact. that's ridiculous. >> this is dick durbin, the top democrat on the judiciary committee, which on the senate side is doing this work. again, you can get numb hearing this. you keep hearing the trump told a big lie, and in a moment i'll tell you he's doing the big lie. think about this this is the president of the united states trying to cling to power. listen to dick durbin. >> when the president was teergt on the precipice of whether or not he was going to remove the acting attorney general jeffrey rosen and replace him with jeffrey clarke, it was cipollone who spoke up that said what they were trying to achieve was a murder-suicide pact and that the president should not do that. >> think about the january 6th committee on the house side trying to go deeper into the facts here. the president's lawyer had to turn to him and say, sir, i will resign and a whole bunch of people here and at the justice department will resign if you do not back down. it took that to stop donald trump. >> yeah, exactly. these are the kind of details that this panel is hoping town earth, this and more. there's still not a full story that we have of what preceded this deadly attack on the capitol and what built up to the moment. what was the president doing, saying and doing in these days and weeks ahead of time so that's what we're hoping to hear more about, especially today with the deadline approaching on the subpoenas. >> the former president issuing a statement last night attacking the commit, attack the two republicans who serve on it and saying this. the real insurrection happened on november 3rd, the presidential election, not on january 6th which was a day of protesting the fake election results. again, former governor nikki haley, former ambassador nikki haley did this the other day in a speech saying i don't want to go back to the republican party before trump. for anyone who wants to stay with trump, that's what you're asking for. that's another lie. that's another lie. the insurrection was an attack on an institution of the united states government, on the government itself in the middle of a sacred process of certifying election results and donald trump continues to lie because he doesn't want us to know the truth. >> the former president continues to undermine the process on the hill and the doj, not just the president and you're hearing former vice president mike pence, you know, as well, saying, look, the january 6th, that the media is too focused on this deadly attack that happened on the nation's capitol as well, all of this in an effort to continue to try to undermine the investigation. let's be clear. there's now questions as well about whether or not trump's allies comply with congressional subpoenas as well when it comes to this investigation. >> that's like a turk ducken of misinformation because it also has the layer of undermining elections all over the country. >> forward looking. you're making such an important point. that's, why again, people out there say why do i have to go through this again? because he's trying to undermine the election whether it's the california election, the virginia mid terms next month. >> and you mentioned the virginia election and you have the republican candidate talking about election audits, something automatic in virginia. they go and look at the ballots, but the reason -- and trump sent out his statement, youngking's statement after he said it and this is being fermented by trump and it's not going away >> the big lie aspects have been codified in certain states across the country. the presumption -- they know it's false and yet there are aspects of it that are rolling back really pivotal gains since the 1965 voting rights act. you don't have the benefit of section 5 any longer to be able to preempt and prevent what's happening. section 2 is only after the fact a reactive measure so you have codified legislation in places like georgia, other places around the country. they are attempting things in florida and pennsylvania as well us a pause they know that the big lie is a way to get around the truth of the matter which is, look, donald trump lost. he does not know how to define nurse if he believes november 3rd was a day that happened and he's trying to build on and capitalize on theig norngs in accordance of the american electorate that does not exist that time and time again say that you lost election. this is a big lie that you can not maintain. >> in terms of forward looking, not just undermining elections. it's worth also reminding the public as well that the dhs and fbi have continued to say extremists throughout the country continue to be motivated by the false narratives around the election. that's what continues to motivate people, know, flocking to have the riots and what have you, the emboldened right wing militias as well. >> that's why today is so important. put the face back up, four close trump advisers face deadlines to cooperate, provide documents today and the committee wants testimony from them,later this month. the indication is most of them are going say no. we'll see how that turns out. i hope all of them comply. jason crowe, a prominent democratic member of the house says if they do not, congress should act and decisively. >> if they continue to disregard the speen arksds, i'm going to highly encourage the authorities to pursue criminal contempt. if you refuse a subpoena, there are consequences for you, so there darn well should be consequences for the president and his top enablers here. >> it appears that will be a question for the chairman and committee members, how aggressive are we prepared to be in terms of going to court or asking the justice department to go criminal? >> sounds like they are very committed to being very aggressive. i spoke to an aide about what could follow if they don't xlirks criminal referrals that would be sent to the house hand those would be worked through very quickly and down the line from there they could face jail time or fines. many members have reiterated saying there will be consequences if you don't follow through with the subpoenas. >> the fact that they went to subpoena, they didn't even s. they sent the paper. they didn't -- they skipped a step so there's no doubt that this 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new government borrowing to pay the deal through december. it was top republican mitch mcconnell's idea which is noteworthy after months of saying the republicans would not help. the panel is back. why? democrats are saying mcconnell blinked. mcconnell caved. he had said for months you're on your own and yesterday he raises his hand and says i have a plan, why? >> there's a lot of speculation why. one pavrt part of the plan is pressure would build by yesterday whereas corporate friends would start pressuring these republicans saying quit, it stop it, you need to put a hold on all of this because it's really starting to mess with the market so those concerns have bubbled up possibly to mcconnell making this offer. i don't know if it's a full blake. i know democrats want to say that, maybe it's half a blanc blink but it gives them a few more weeks to bat teleought all over again. >> did mcconnell get really nervous that the democrats would change the filibuster rule if you're in the minority, that's your power and mcconnell on the floor today says i'm a hero. >> mr. president, mr. speaker and the democratic leader had three months notice to do their jobs, but for two and a half months the democratic leaders did nothing and complained they were short on time. the majority didn't have a plan to prevent default so we stepped forward. >> so all praise mitch mcconnell is his view of this. dick turbin, one of the top democrats says oh, no. >> it was a reckless and irresponsible strategy which senator mcconnell finally realized. it's still not as resolved as it should be but at least during this plan we can act on the bipartisan infrastructure bill as well as the reconciliation bill. >> both things are true. mcconnell and republicans were reckless leading up to this and responsible is the word coming forward. now what? democrats get their two months but they still have to decide how are they going to do this in december and mcconnell knows that. >> i mean, we're going to be right pack in the same place in a couple of weeks. i think senator bernie sanders said -- were you there. >> exactly. >> he said, you know, two months in a lifetime i'm paraphrasing here. is it? >> exactly. you could hear the groans right there in the senate chamber saying it's not a lifetime. we'll be right back here in a few weeks. >> these play into the other politics, mcconnell decides to do this whether because of the flust clear or we're on the edge of a cliff here. it looks like mitch mcconnell is folding to the democrats today. it's time to play the hand. don't let them destroy our country that. from former president donald trump. context reminder president donald trump raised the debt ceiling three times and it was done on a bipartisan basis. >> republicans voted for it. this is like a hot potato. all that matters politically is the blame. the republicans don't want to be blamed. the democrats don't want to be plaimd blamed. this is a really insane way. >> one thing it does 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if you can save by switching today. comcast business. powering possibilities. the restrictive texas abortion law son hold as the legal and political fights intensify. a u.s. district court judge yesterday agreeing with the biden administration challenge to the texas law. in a scathing 113-page ruling u.s. district court judge robert pittman called it, quote, an unprecedented and depressive scheme to deprive the citizens of a long-established constitutional right. the law bans abortions after six weeks and allows private sit stones bring lawsuits alleging violations. cnn laura skoets back with our panel. so you have a district judge. i want to read more from the ruling. we often say judges are supposed to be apolitical. they often get right to it. other courts may find a way to find this conclusion is their side. this court will not sanction one more day of the offensive deprivation of such an important right. judge pittman is an obama appointee. this will make its way up to the appellate courts and the supreme court which already has a mississippi case in front of t.pretty stark language there. >> it is, and i don't think the judge is being political. it's being judicial. this is the decision that the supreme court of the united states should have issued because it was their press kent under "roe v. wade." they figured out a way to evade judicial review saying there's no check on a legislative branch in texas. our entire democracy is premised on the idea of separation of powers and checks and balances and in any context let alone the one involving the 14th amendment, equal protection, the precedents. you can try to evade it to say you have no recourse because i don't want you to have recourse, and that's astonishing and the supreme court should have said something about this. what you have is a fleeting effect, temporary because it will make its way to one of the most conservative appellate courts in our country, fifth circuit, and they have been gunning for the approach to talk about the issues that this may not be the fight. if they want to find that the underlying law is constitutional, the supreme court could arguably decide not to take it up which means that this law could continue to be in the law, and it already has a chilling effect. it already has the intended effect of people not being able to get legal abortions in texas. you've got surrounding states having an increase of people going to those places because abortions are not going to stop but lawful medically safe ones in texas. >> right now if this law is on hold for a day or a week or a month it is a makes its way to the cow. what happens? if you're an abortion clinic and reopen and somebody comes in for abortion services, can you be, if the next court says no and puts the law back into effect can you then be sued. >> you can be sued retroactively at this point, right? that's what i understand many people in the administration and allies of the administration saying that this is a wings, and when you look at that language, of course, it can have an impact, but when you look at impact on the ground with the clinics being sued retroactively. i mean, for these are looking to -- to oppose this ruling in texas, there's still a lot of work to be on. >> if you look at polling, this is out of -- if you look at national polling, if you look at 58% of all adults support or oppose the texas law. 58% oppose. if you look -- among republicans 59% of republicans nationally oppose it, but this was done by the texas ledge electric. i want to put some numbers up on the screen. 74% of the texas legislature are men. 50% of the state's population are men. 61% of the legislature is white. 41% of the state is white. 64% of the legislatures over 50, you have a lot of decisions being made by people who shall we say are not necessarily -- they are representing their views, not their population. >> and most don't have uteruses, by the way. let's talk about the idea of agency over a woman's body and, remember, this is all about vigilanteism. the numbers you quote have had been texas -- spes specific. the law allows for people who are not in texas, in alaska and d.c., wherever it will be, can bring lawsuits and a vigilante approach and get a bounty. they are incentivized to do so because unlike any context in our litigious society which is america's favorite path tim, not litigation, is the idea i can bring a suit and get attorney's fees if i win around i get a bounce of 10,000 as opposed to you get nothing. this is one of those things that's just so negatively impacting the way we should envision our judicial system period. >> period. >> i'm pro baseball. >> i'm pro baseball. >> it's your team, your choice. i'm a red sox fan though. >> okay. breaking news. >> up next, inside the numbers. the growing power of independence, burks remember, looks can be deceiving. with clean, fresh ingredients, panera's new chicken sausage and pepperoni flatbread is a 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free agent when it comes to voting. follow along. our recent cnn polling shows 29% of americans identify as republicans. 35% say they are democrats. the largest slice of the electorate though, 36%, say independent or something other than the two major parties, but a closer look debunks the idea there's this giant swing vote in the middle. when pushed by pollster, look at this, a majority of independents lean republican and 46% lean democratic most of the time but those who reject the party label do share something important in common. nearly eight in ten say they are not well-represented here in washington and a vast majority of those who identify as independents bloest country is on the wrong shack. with me to share their expiers is cnn political reporter david chalian. the largest group are the group that say i don't want to be in the independent party. most people who say they are independent or not democrat or republican are actually run or the other, just don't want to say so, why? >> for a couple of reasons. we aspire to be independent. think of the word independent outside of the political context. we want our kids to be independent and want to live independently. there's something about being independent that seems very american before you even get to the party so there's just some desire for some people to say they are independent. of course there, are the, you know, the folks wearing the bluegers or the red jersey all day long but for others they want to aspire to think about it a little bit differently. at the same time they may still have some party allegiances when pushed and that's why as pollters we look at the pure undecided, the people who are truly undecided and those undecided and lean one way or another because they are for sure different. >> as you saw in the number, 46% of people who don't identify with the party actually lean democratic. 51% actually lean republican, so they have leanings, but they are more open, if you will, more open to going outside of the box because they are not in a party label. they don't field immediate loyalty and they matter in elections. if you look, when donald trump won in 2016 with independents donald trump had a narrow age n.2020 independents had enough and went to joe biden. they are nod as locked in which is why people fight over them. bill clinton said there's 45% over and 45% over here and then we'll fight for the middle. independents can't just be a battle for the middle. you've got to the ref up the base and highlight the middle. what i think is so interesting, john, as you see that people do lean one way or another you also find some meaningful differences between the diehard republicans and the republican leaners or the diehard democrats and the democratic leaners. yes, there's some affiliation, but there's meaningful differences. >> and we're about to get a great labonte in the state of virginia. a hotly contested. gubernatorial election. those who are republican-leaning independents or republicans are move more motivated to vote about 2022, not about virginia, but they are more motivated right now than democrats. why are democrats and democratic leaners more discouraged right now about politics? >> well, i wouldn't say -- i wouldn't go from saying less motivated to meaning discouraged. overall people feel that the country is moving in the wrong direction and are less motivated to vote. democratic leaning and republican leaning independents want to see a role -- they want to see government doing more rather than less so the case for anybody run willing for office, democrat or republican looking to reach outed to inpenalty should try to make a case why -- why they have the right vision for what the government can be doing to help people. >> to that point just to say, the enthusiasm gap, if you look at just the republicans and just the democrats there's parity there, right. >> if you look at the dark red and dark blue, 31% and 30% and the enthusiasm gap is actually between the leaners so the enthusiasm advantage that republicans have right now is largely in our research due to the independents that lean republican which is why someone like terry mcauliffe is saying stop all the committee chat in washington and actually pass something because i need to generate more enthusiasm amonks especially those independents that lean democrat. >> so what works, maernlg? i want to go back to who are the independents? 46% say they lean democratic and 51% lean republican. joe biden was able to convince a decent portion of those independents who lean republican to come his way to win the middle. was that animus towards trump, think given up on trump or it was something about biden that republican-leaning independents, enough of them, were willing to say we'll vote for this guy? >> i think that's a combination. republican-leaning independents were less likely that joe biden was extreme compared to other kinds of republicans so they are more open, think he's more likely to be mainstream. the think about independents is they feel it's hard to get good information. that's something we hear from a lot of information and we've seen polling for navigator and we saw independents say they are most worried about is the spread of misinformation so the accepts it's hard to know who to trust or where to get good information and that's something that lots of people feel, independents in particular. >> more than 80% people say they think the country is off on the wrong track. they seem disaffected. >> they are not a happy crowd, and it makes them that much further out of reach potentially for politicians to court because they are not really happy with politics and the way it's being run in this country. they are some of the most disenchanted in the polling that we see so it makes it that much tougher to woo them back in to support one way or the other. >> when you see, margie, historically, only going back to 2004, but you see this, you know, 33% up to nearly 40% of people identify as independents. i remember after the perot campaign in 192, thought for sure there would be a third party in the united states. is it now or never? >> we may have more people identifying as independents but there's still hyper partisanship. democrats are sure that the republican party is on the wrong track and republicans feel the same way about democrats. that partisanship unites us all, something we hear in all focus group and you are vai, ds, rs, independents, all of them. >> as we go through now and the mid terms we'll go inside any time we can. up next, senator lindsey graham encourages his supporters to get a vaccine and it didn't go very well. why hide your skin if dupixent has your moderate-to-severe eczema or atopic dermatitis under control? hide my skin? not me. by hitting eczema where it counts, dupixent helps heal your skin from within, keeping you one step ahead of eczema. and that means long-lasting clearer skin... and fast 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