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Hello, again, everyone. Thank you so much for joining me. Im fredricka whitfield. This just in to cnn, a major blow to New York City Teachers Fighting for vaccine mandates. A federal judge has issued a temporary injunction representing the city from enforcing the mandate on all city school workers. Cnns alison kosik joining me from new york. What more are you learning . Reporter New York City mayor bill de blasios mandate requiring all teachers and school staff to provide proof theyve received at least one dose of the covid19 vaccine is on hold. It was supposed to go into effect monday at midnight. A group of Educators Want a temporary injunction against the mandate that was set to go into effect on september 27th. But Department Of Education officials are confident that the mandate will continue to be upheld. A threejudge panel is reviewing their case on an expedited basis. In the meantime, the concern was that thousands of New York City teachers may not be in the classroom come Tuesday Morning because they havent been vaccinated against the coronavirus. There still stands about 10,000 New York City schoolteachers that have yet to upload their proof that theyve had their vaccination and there was concern that schools wouldnt be properly staffed on Tuesday Morning and that they wouldnt be safe. Now, unions representing classroom teachers, principals and supervisors said the mandates introduction has been so poorly handled that many employees would be suspended, and as i said, resulting in unsafe schools. Oh, my goodness. Thats New York City. On the National Pictures theres some, shall we call it encouraging news. Cases are slowing across the country. Were still in the middle of a pandemic, but with some of the cases slowing and now that boosters are available for some people, how hopeful does everyone need to be . Reporter now we have boosters available for millions of americans who are eligible for the third dose of the pfizer vaccine. The Booster Shots are green lit by the fda and the cdc for americans who are 65 and over, for people 18 and up with certain underlying conditions, and adults at an increased risk of covid because of their workplaces or institutional settings. But getting more initial shots in arms, that really remains a high priority for the biden administration. Cdc director walensky actually split with her agencys Vaccine Advisers by recommending the third dose for people who are considered high risk. In a pandemic we most often take steps with the intention to do the greatest good, even in an uncertain environment. And that is what im doing with these recommendations. I want to be clear, we will not boost our way out of this pandemic. Reporter the good news, according to new data from the cdc on friday, 75 of the eligible population in the u. S. Has received at least one dose of the vaccine. Fredricka . All right, alison kosik, thank you so much for that. Well check back with you. Meantime, new data from the cdc reinforces that there is some encouragement on the horizon, and that masks in schools, in fact, do work to stop the spread of covid. One new study shows that schools with no masks rules are 3 1 2 times more likely to have an outbreak than schools that require masks, despite that clear evidence, some parents still oppose mask mandates. In idaho, a School Board Meeting to discuss a temporary mask mandate was called off last night after an unruly large crowd gathered to protest it. Officials say about 100 people tried to participate, exceeding the meeting rooms capacity. The protesters began banging on the doors and police were even called in. And then in georgia, hospitals across the state are still struggling under a surge of Covid Patients and the battle to keep them alive. It plays out on a daily basis. We have a Microcosm Story for you right now in a small 25bed hospital in south georgia in july, dr. Jason lehny was trying to keep all of his patients alive, but one in particular caught his attention. Greer smith. Smith is the principal of the local high school and the father of two kids. He had become so sick with covid that the only chance the doctor had to save the principal was to get him a bed in a hospital perhaps in atlanta or even nearby savannah, georgia, where they had lifesaving equipment. More than 30 patients have died of covid at the hospital and he didnt want to see any more die. But greer smith wasnt going to be one of them. That was the hope of the doctor. And, in fact, Principal Ygreer Smith and his doctor are both with me now. So glad that you all can be together and to share this story. But it really is an example of how tough this battle is for everybody who tests positive for covid19. So, doctor, take us through the series of events that unfolded. I gave kind of a little thumbnail sketch of what happened. But why did you feel like the only way this principal was going to get the best chance at trying to survive was to go to a hospital either in atlanta or savannah . And it ended up being in atlanta, right . Correct. How did you make that determination . How did you get the wheels in motion . So mr. Smith was on 100 oxygen, he was having coughing spells, Oxygen Levels would drop to the 70s and we were very uncomfortable how long it was taking to get back to normal, so i knew he was going to need intubation and i felt that this ecmo, which essentially will give a chance for his lungs to rest, was the best chance that he would have to stay alive. We dont offer that at our facility. We dont have any machines in our hospitals. Or cardiologists or intensivists. So i felt we needed to get him moving. So what had to happen was several nurses and myself called several facilities to look for a bed. We spoke we did get a bed that night, so i thought thats where we were going to go. But unfortunately, due to weather, we werent able to fly him out that night. So next, the next morning, we were told to call back at 6 00 in the morning, but then, again, weather prevented us from doing that. It was really hard to make it happen. You made a lot of phone calls and finally you found some space at a hospital in atlanta. And i wonder, principal smith, i know you were feeling absolutely horrible, but tell me why it was the case that you actually had to be convinced to go on a ventilator and that you would have to be relocated. What was going through your mind, what were you experiencing . I think the main thing going through my mind was the Horror Stories that basically once you go on the vent in the past, that that was kind of a death sentence, low chances of survival. My main thing was i wasnt ready to leave my kids and i wasnt ready to leave my wife or my students at school. I just had an overwhelming desire to live overall. Well, thank goodness, because the will to live is very meaningful in so many cases, right, dr. Laney . This is personal for you, too. Youre a doctor in your town, but your son actually also attends greer smiths high school. So talk to me about kind of that personal tug that you had to try and make sure he would get the best help possible. Yeah, this was very personal to me. The hardest part of this pandemic, especially in this small town, typically we know just about everyone that walks through the doors. Everyone in the town knows mr. Smith. Hes very well respected in our community. Were friends with the same people. We are both Little League football coaches, so we see each other out there. My son talks very highly of mr. Greer and loves him as a principal. And the er physician called me and said, hey, you need to get to the er, the principal of the high school is here and hes in bad shape. That was very hard on me. I do try to treat each patient like theyre my own Family Member and that day greer was my brother and nothing was going to stop me from getting what he needed. And just the whole process was an emotional roller coaster. We had a bed and then couldnt get transferred, then we found another hospital but then there was transport issues again. I was told that he wouldnt fit on the helicopter and just ups and downs of trying to get him to what he needed was definitely an experience ill never forget. When the helicopter finally took off, i hugged one of the nurses that was helping me get him off the ground. We hugged and stephanie, greers wife hugged. There were about 30 of us out there crying watching him leave. Principal greer, i know you were very grateful, theres such big love in such a small town. And you were able to get this kind of medical attention. So given your journey, what is your message, if you have one, to anyone or all about the seriousness of covid19, about getting vaccinated . What is your message . My message is it can get anybody. Its no respecter of persons. This virus can touch anybody, even if you think youre invincible. And it hadnt touched anyone in my family until it got me. Once it hit, you quickly realize that it is nothing to be trifled with, its nothing to take lightly. And i urge anyone to get vaccinated. I just know how bad this is and thankfully were in a faithcentered community and we have lots of love and prayers toward my family and im so thankful that god used dr. Laney to allow me to be healed. Its nothing short of a miracle that im here. So many people dont make it and im very blessed that i did. And i ask anybody who is on the fence about it to go ahead and take that step and get that vaccine so that your family can have you continue your life. Well, so glad you got through it, Principal Greer smith, and so glad that all of you embraced each other, dr. Jason laney, and were able to help each other out through trying and frightening times. Thank you for sharing your story with us. Thank you. And despite vaccinations, Breakthrough Cases remain a concern. On the view yesterday moments before Vice President Kamala Harris was about to be interviewed, two Positive Covid tests involving sunny hostin and ana navarro, throwing the whole show into a tailspin. Here now is cnns brian todd. Reporter on the popular abc show the view on friday, an awkward unscripted moment for sunny hostin and ana navarro after an exclusive interview with Vice President Kamala Harris had been promoted. Were back and there seems to be something happening here that im not 100 aware of. Can someone please apprise me of the situation . I need the two of you to step off for a second. Okay, ana and sunny . Yes. Well tell you why. More information later. As they made their way off the set, more awkwardness. Shall i introduce the Vice President . Yes. Okay, so Vice President no. No, okay. Shall we dance . Another commercial break, then host jay behar returned with the news. So since this is going to be the a major news story any minute now, what happened is sunny and ana both apparently tested positive for covid, no matter how hard we try, these things happen. They probably have a Breakthrough Case and theyll be okay, im sure, because theyre both vaccinated. The Vice President didnt appear until a half hour later in the very last segment of the show. She appeared remotely and she was on for less than eight minutes. Sunny and ana are strong women and i know theyre fine. Reporter Cnns Brian Stelter reports the hosts are tested twice a week but they were tested an extra time this week because of the Vice President s arrival. A white house official says Vice President harris, who was received two doses of the moderna vaccine, did not interact with sunny hostin or ana navarro before the show. But one medical expert says this could have been a close call for the president and speaks to the risks she and the president are often faced. Any time youre around so many people from so many parts of the country on a daily basis, you are potentially exposed to that virus every single time. And dr. Matthew is critical of how the show handled this. I think the ball was dropped somewhere. Why did these anchors not know about their test before the show began . Especially on a day when year interviewing Vice President harris. Reporter those were among questions we posed to publicists for the view in emails and phone messages. When were the tests done, why did the hosts not learn about the results until the show was on the air live . Was there a breakdown in communication . The publicists have not gotten back to us. I did reach ana navarro. She told me shes shocked by this, she feels great, shes really glad the Vice President is safe. Two sources have told Cnns Brian Stelter that both ana navarro and sunny hostin have subsequently tested negative for covid twice since friday morning. Brian todd, cnn, washington. Still ahead, some of the migrants who were living under a bridge in del rio, texas, have been sent back to haiti and back to the very issues that caused them to make the long journey to the u. S. To begin with. I wondeg without its fearless leader. You sure you want to leave that all behind . Yeah. Stay restless with the rx. Crafted by lexus. Experience amazing at your lexus dealer. Press start and consider the job finished. Finish quantums threechamber detergent works with boschs precisionwash technology to clean, degrease and shine every dish, every load. For a sparkling clean, from bosch to finish. Can you be free of Hair Breakage Worries . 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The migrant camp in del rio, texas, where at one point more than 15,000 migrants waited in squaller to get processed by u. S. Immigration authorities, closed friday. As of right now there were zero persons under the bridge. Reporter cnn drones capturing some of the last migrants being loaded onto buses. They appeared to be single adults, their hands ziptied, their bodies patted down. Today the president vowing there will be consequences, following the controversial images of Border Patrol agents on horseback using aggressive tactics. It was horrible, as you saw, to see people treated like they did, horses nearly running them over and people being strapped. Its outrageous. I promise you, those people will pay. Reporter according to dhs, more than 1,900 haitian nationals have been returned to haiti, around 3,900 are in Border Patrol custody and about 1,600 have been released in del rio. Thats where we met reginald, who spent a week under the bridge with his family. How is it to be there with his infant . He said his daughter got sick due to the cold morning wind. Dhs secretary mayorkas saying a small percentage of migrants are being allowed to stay. If they make a valid claim to remain in the United States then of course we honor that. Reporter john says he waited under the bridge for a week. His number in line, 10,825. It was finally called thursday. Why did you leave haiti . He says he left haiti because its very tough there. And he says mammen they assassinated our president , what safety could he have . Vice president harris was tasked with examining the root causes of migration at the u. S. Mexico border, was asked if all deportations of haitians should be halted. I feel very strongly, the president feels very strongly weve got to do more. Reporter now a new problem. Immigration processing facilities are over capacity. Just over 5,000 are being processed by dhs to determine whether they will be expelled or placed in immigration removal proceedings. Reporter our cam mas capturing a free flow of migrants from mexico into the u. S. And a swelling of a migrant camp in texas that resembled the third world. Do you take responsibility for the chaos thats unfolding . Of course i take responsibility. Im president. Reporter the Del Rio International bridge is scheduled to reopen today at 4 00 p. M. Local time. For vehicle and pedestrian traffic. Cargo traffic is expected to resume on monday. Fred, this bridge was closed on September 17th as the number of migrants that were crossing into the u. S. And that were going to the migrant camp kept rising. Rosa flores in del rio, texas, thank you so much. Still ahead, president bidens domestic Agenda Hanging in limbo and its the deep divisions in his own party threatening to derail his top goals. 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What more do we know about the talks . Reporter theres no progress or agreement and that is why lawmakers Behind Closed Doors right now are meeting to try to break this logjam and that issue is the stalemate on the house represent side that has existed for quite some time. You have House Progressives who say they will potentially tank the vote monday on the Infrastructure Bill, they will not vote for it unless they first see an agreement on the broader economic plan, the special spending bill, the 3. 5 trillion bill. And there is no agreement to that bill, not even a tough Line Dollar Figure with the senate. So that is still a huge outstanding thing. Now, speaker of the house, nancy pelosi, she says its her intention to bring both bills up for a vote next week, but that has already set off House Progressives here. They say if theres a vote on infrastructure on monday, they say that will only make things worse within the party. Just check out this language within the House Democrats. Speaker pelosi, will the vote still happen on monday for sure on the Infrastructure Bill . The bill will come up when i want. I dont think the vote is going to happen because i dont think the speaker is going to bring a bill to the floor thats going to fail. And actually the number is growing, but we have at least 50 people who are not going to vote for that bill. So i think what we need is to take the temperature down a little bit, to have the negotiations continue. The vote is going to drive up tensions, not drive down tensions. Reporter now, out this moment up here on capitol hill, the Budget Committee is holding a very rare saturday session. It is virtual, but it is under way at this moment. They are marking up that broad economic bill. This is in essence a way for them to show the progressives, appease the progressives, showing theyre making some Forward Movement on that broader economic bill. The bill that still does not have many parts of that agreed to, so that certainly is notable. This certainly a very critical time up here on the hill, fred, going into a huge week next week when you also have the debt ceiling needing to be attended to. So theres a lot going into monday when the House Democrats at 5 30 p. M. Eastern will gather and huddle, get a temperature from their caucus and what the direction is on so many of these issues, when right now its still very unclear. All right. Keep us posted from capitol hill when you can. Straight ahead, a new chapter in the Civil Sex Assault Lawsuit against Prince Andrew. I , for as little as 25 a month. And the best part . Its powered by verizon. But it gets crazier. Bring a friend every month, and get every month for 5. Which is why i brought them. Two 5amonths right here. both hey. Plus the players in my squad. Hey. Whats up . Then finally, my whole livestream. Boom 12 months of 5 wireless. announcer visible. 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Reporter i have to say its a real breakthrough for the accuser here. Her lawyers have been trying to serve papers on Prince Andrew for some time, trying to get him engaged in this entire case, really, for some time. And finally he acknowledges he has been served. So thats a big breakthrough. He has got a u. S. Lawyer, that lawyer was served the papers, and both sides have now signed the piece of paper effectively saying they acknowledge that has happened. It has to be signed by the judge, but this does look as though it allows this trial to continue. So a big moment for virginia duefra. That means they need to respond by the 19th Of October and if he doesnt respond they could face a Default Judgment of some kind. We dont know how hes going to respond. He could say the case doesnt have any legitimacy under uk law. Theres lots of things he can challenge, but it does allow this trial to proceed. Lets have a look at what hes actually accused of here. Hes accused of sexual assault. She alleges that Prince Andrew had sex with her when she was 17 in three different locations, including london and new york and she was trafficked by Jeffrey Epstein to Prince Andrew. Prince andrew hasnt responded formally in this case, but in the past hes denied all similar allegations hes heard. Max foster, thank you so much. Keep us updated. In these new tales about the control and monitoring of singer Britney Spears coming to light in a new documentary by the new york times, its called controlling Britney Spears and it was released on friday. One of the former members of her Security Firm reveals that spears phone calls, texts and private conversations were being bugged by her father, and all of it being recorded. Spears life and her struggle to break out of her conservatorship are part of the cnn Special Report toxic, Britney Spears battle for freedom. There were frantic texts being exchanged by prominent people within her management and her Team Debating what was going to happen and what to do about it. Britney went to the Police Station by her house hours before the hearing and spoke to 911 dispatchers from a lobby phone, reporting herself a victim of conservatorship abuse. Shortly after, officers met with britney at her home. There was a concerted effort to create a record of her complaints and she wanted to begin to establish that she believed that something illegal was happening here, and indeed that is what she said the next day, that she felt people involved in maintaining this conservatorship should go to jail. Dont miss toxic tomorrow night at 8 00 p. M. Eastern right here on cnn. Well be right back. man 1 oh, this looks like were in a screen saver. man 2 yeah, but we need to go higher. man 1 higher. man 2 definitely higher. man 1 were like yodeling high. [yodeling] yodelehe. man 2 hey, no. 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And as this case continues to gain national coverage, many minority families are voicing frustration with the lack of response to reports that their loved ones are missing. Some taking matters into their own hands to get their cases into the public eye. Here now is cnns adrienne broaddus. Natalie hollow way vanished in a rub ba. Murdered or missing white women or children who captured National Media attention. Still on the hunt for Gabby Petitos fiance. Found dead in wyoming eight days after she was reported missing. In chicago, Karen Phillips is fighting to make sure the world knows her daughter, a mail carrier, missing for almost three years. I believe that if she was a different color, we would have more results about now. Reporter this photo of her holding an ultrasound after learning she was pregnant is one of the last pictures taken of her in 2018. We couldnt wait. We could not wait. Reporter phillips is among dozens of black and minority families struggling to get attention on their missing person cases. I just miss her. She was doing so good. And then just to come up missing. There are thousands of cases of folks who have gone missing we dont know about. Reporter a criminologist specializing in Missing Persons cases says only a fraction of minority cases receive nonstop News Coverage compared to white people. If theres a missing white woman, were going to cover that. Reporter a systemic issue, the late anchor coined missing white woman syndrome in 2004. Missing white woman syndrome is the idea that young white girls and women get much more News Coverage than other folks of different demographics. Reporter according to 2020 fbi data, blacks only make up 13 of the u. S. Population. They account for nearly onethird of the Missing Persons cases in the United States. If you see her, tell her we love her. Reporter in washington state, Mary Johnsons family is still waiting for answers. Johnson went missing late last year from the reservation. Shes a Native American woman. Sorry, im not racist, but she deserves the same treatment. Reporter online, black and brown families are using hashtag gabby petito to post about their missing loved ones hoping to gain momentum, a move that helped the family of Daniel Robinson raise awareness. We shouldnt have to depend on other stories or cases to push our own story and im just we just want answers just like anyone else. Reporter those families saying they didnt get the same allocation of resources or treatment from Law Enforcement. Theres data that suggests that when people of color go missing, especially young adults, teenagers, adolescents, theyre more likely to be classified as run aways, missing of their own accord. Reporter how do we balance the coverage . No one is saying gabby isnt worthy of coverage. It doesnt have to be gabby petito or someone else gets coverage. The same spotlight should be on both of them. Today phillips should be celebrating her daughters 29th birthday, instead she made signs. All we can do is keep her name out there, keep doing interviews and hopefully one day somebody will just call in and just leave a tip. We grieve every day because we dont know where she is or whats going on. Reporter cnn, chicago. Up next, a sham election audit in arizona delivers a major blow to former president trump. Well have more on the growing fallout next. And this quick programming note. Join your favorite anchors for a special night as we spotlight everyday people changing the world for the better. Champions for change airs tonight at 8 00 p. M. Heres a preview. Join your favorite anchors sharing stories of changemakers. This is one of the most devastating and yet preventable issues of our day. He helps the defenseless learn to defend themselves. 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I dont know what to feel. But he was upset but yet masking it, i could tell. Hes like i cant believe it. Im not the real paul froncac. I dont know who michigan parents are. I dont know how old i am. I was, like, wow. Wow, what a mystery. Joining us now is c. C. Moore, a dna investigator and chief genetic meteorologist for pair bon nano labs. She played a key role in Helping Paul Untangle the mystery of his past. So good to see you, ceecee. Thank you for having me. Tell us what a Dna Detective is and what you do. I have the most amazing job. Genetic genealogy is a very powerful tool. So theres quite a few applications. We can use it to solve Family Mysteries, identifying long dead ancestors, use it to help adoptees identify their biological families. The last few years i have been using it to help Law Enforcement identify unknown violent criminals like rapists, serial killers, and also to identify the many unidentified deceased people in the United States. Wow. You are tasked with a lot. Okay. Now, how did you get involved in pauls case and how did you help put it together . Well, way back in 2012, i learned about his case. And i reached out to him. But i think i was unundated with messages at that point. So in 2014, i was working with a Television Series that was interested in working with him. They asked if i might be able to help him find his biological heritage. Thats how i first got involved. It took about a year and a half of Reverse Engineering his identity from the family trees of the people who share dna with him. Wow. In the film you say that people dont necessarily have a right to relationship with their biological family, but they do have a birthright to the knowledge of their heritage. So it sounds like thats from that direction is how you went at pauls case. Yes. As a jeanologist, i strongly believe everyone has an equal right to learn about their heritage. That doesnt mean you can force anyone or depend on anyone to have a Relationship Request their new Family Members. I feel it is a birthright to be able to investigate that. Many people have a yearning to learn about that. In my dna Detectives Facebook Group hundreds of thousands have used their own dna to resolve their own Family Mysteries and their identity questions. Yearning. Thats a good word on that. So how do you suppose this story is going to inspire other people about getting to know more about their Family Histories or making some new covers altogether themselves . Well, i dont want to give away too much, but i do believe many people will find hope through pauls story. And i hope that the families of missing children are encouraged to put their dna in the commercial dna testing data bases. Because i do believe there are many children out there that were kidnapped in order to be raised or sold and not killed. And there are probably many, many, many of those people out there not realizing their true identities. Wow. Really fascinating. I cannot wait to what. Cece moore, thank you. Thank you for having me. You can catch the all new cnn film The Lost Sons tomorrow only on cnn. Thank you so much for being with me today. Cnn newsroom continues right now with phil mattingly. Youre live in the cnn newsroom. Im phil mattingly. The big lie is taking on a life of its own. As donald trump and his followers continue to give it oxygen. The final report from a months long Partisan Review of arizona ballots confirms what we have known for 10 months. That joe biden won Maricopa County in arizona. Even a Conspiracy Theory driven fake audit that checked ballots for Bamboo Fibers couldnt invent enough evidence for the trump lie. One would think this would be a nail in the big lies coffin. But that is a realitybased approach to things. In this world, facts, they dont matter. 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