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condition like diabetes or you're a frontline worker like a health care worker or a teacher, you can get a free booster now. >> the president also strongly condemned the treatment of haitian migrants at the border under his watch calling it an embarrassment. john harwood joins us. john, start with that, with what the president just said about the crisis at the border. he said he takes responsibility. >> reporter: he did. he's the president. but he also tried to strike a tone of solidarity with all those americans who have seen those horrendous videos of agents on horseback swinging lariats or whips or whatever they were in ways to intimidate haitian migrants and said he shared their outrage and will do something about it. take a listen. it's outrageous. i promise you, those people will pay. they will be -- an investigation under way now and there will be consequences. there will be consequences. it's an embarrassment, beyond an embarrassment. it's dangerous. it's wrong. it sends the wrong message around the world, sends the wrong message at home. it's simply not who we are. >> reporter: kate, this has been a special problem for the president within the democratic party as he's trying to pass his economic plan because many democrats think he has not switched suchly from the border policies of president trump and these videos were affirmation of that in their view. >> john, on his entire economic agenda that is hanging in the balance on capitol hill right now, the president also spoke to that. he's definitely trying to make the case, as he has wanted all along, for passing both of these bills, right, the magszive spending bill, the infrastructure bipartisan deal, but saying this potential $3.5 trillion bill is going to cost nothing, that seems a hard sell, right? >>. >> reporter: it is because people all year have been talking about the price tags but this echos the closing argument he's making as many of the democratic moderates have shrunk from the big number saying don't look at the gross amount of spending because i'm offsetting the spending with tax cuts and the cost is zero. i think more particularly he was trying to project an attitude of calm. he's been dogged by the picture in recent weeks of somebody struggling on foreign policy, struggling on domestic policy, poll numbers dropping, and he tried to say today give us time, we're getting things done, we've had some setbacks, all is on track. we'll see whether or not he can justify that kind of confidence but that's the message he was trying to send. >> i think the word he used was stalemate on capitol hill. a little of everything at the moment right now. good to see you, john. thank you so much. appreciate it. president biden as we've discussed began his remarks last hour touting the progress he said the united states has made in the battle against the coronavirus. he used the opportunity to urge eligible americans to go get the pfizer booster shots after the cdc gave the green light overnight. joining me for more on this, because there's lot to this, cnn chiefd dr. sanjay gupta. the guidance from the cdc comes down to who should and who may get the additional dose. can you lay it out for us? >> this is specific language when you look at the cdc recommendations, officially recommended by the director overnight, about that. let me put it up on the screen for you. when it comes to the "should" in terms of boosters, and keep in mind as you read this it's just for pfizer right now because that's the only vaccine for which there's actually been a consensus on this. the moderna data is being reviewed. people over 65 and if you live in long-term care facilities. people between 50 and 64 with underlying conditions. that can be a pretty exhaustive list, kate. cardiac disease, diabetes, obesity. as far as "may," people between the ages of 18 to 49 with those same underlying conditions and people who work in situations that may put them at high risk such as health care workers, grocery workers, people who are in prisons, you know, whatever it may be. people at high risk because of potential exposure to the virus. so it's interesting because they're sort of hedging a little bit there. they're not necessarily saying the bottom categories absolutely should but they're eligible for it. let me show you quickly, kate, the day that that informed this, basically saying if we give booster, how much of a difference does it make in different age groups? focus on the far right of the screen there. people over the age of 65, they say if they give boosters, they get significant protection in terms of hospitalizations overall. for younger age groups, they're not getting as much protection for hospitalizations because those groups are not hospitalized as much but they get protection in ternlsterms o transition. not perfect, but that's what's been driving this decision. it's been messy, but this is where they've arrived. >> we talked about that. you said, look, if people are out there and confused about booster shots, they're right to be so. there's been a lot of confusion around the boosters leading up to the cdc director's decision, and it started with the white house, really. did you hear president biden clearing that up? >> not really. i mean, you know, the thing is, i think what the white house has said is the reason they started talking about this so long ago is because they wanted to get the infrastructure in place. 70% of people are going to go to their pharmacies to get their booster, want to make sure those boosters are available there. that makes sense. the thing that confused people is they also said starting september 20th. we know here at the end of this week that we're just now hearing from the fda and cdc on the specific formal recommendation. so i think the white house got ahead of this a bit. and then we saw this back and forth between two very big scientific agencies, the fda and cdc, advisory committees feeling differently than the director felt. i can tell you as someone who's covered this for 20 years, that back and forth does happen a lot and there can be often spirited discussions. what is different with this pandemic is you're seeing it evolve real time. oftentimes, you know, someone like a dr. walensky would follow the guidance of her committee. the fda would follow the guidance of their committee. you v but you're seeing how people are interpreting the data and coming slight to slightly different conclusions. where they've arrived scientifically makes sense. people most likely to benefit from the beasters are the ones who were recommending that they should get boosters. again, it's a messy process getting here. >> the president said if you get the booster, get it now. he'll be getting it. he doesn't have the exact day of when he'll get his booster. we could hear more about the rollout i guess in the next hour when the covid task force is holding a briefing. do you think shots can begin today? >> yeah. i think they -- frankly, i think they've already begun. >> right. >> i've heard this morning, people -- a pregnant doctor went in and got her booster. a health care worker. it's already beginning. i think what is going to be interesting about this, kate, there's no formal doctor's note or anything you have to have to go in and get a booster. it's self-attestation as they call it, the honor code. what happens, as we've seen so many times in the pandemic, the people worried about it will get boosters and people who are not will not get their boosters. 40% of the country is still not fully vaccinated. so, you know, that's still the real problem. one thing i do want to say is that people -- there may be people who rush to get their boosters earlier than the six-month note. there is value in waiting for the full six months. if you think about how the immune system works, you want to boost with enough of an interval between your first shots and this booster shot. that's a true boost, and that's probably what's going to give you the longest duration. that's the only caveat i would add is don't rush it because you may be actually not getting as much benefit as you otherwise would. we can anticipate, kate, how this is going to sort of break down. people are worried, they may be in line at pharmacies right now, 40% of the country, they're not paying attention to this. >> right. where focus still needs to remain on getting more people vaccinated and seeing the number of first vaccinations declining in the last four weeks. good to see you. thank you so much. another developing story, a major blow to former president trump's big lie that the 2020 election was stolen from him. republican commission sham awe difficult we've been following out of arizona, it is to be released today. it confirms what you know, that president biden defeated donald trump and that there was no massive fraud. not only that, the review in arizona shows that biden won maricopa county by an even bigger margin than the official tally. but trump's repeated lies are taking on new life. he is now prompting a review of the vote count in the four largest counties in texas. cnn is live in arizona. we've been following the audit since the beginning. what does this report say? >> reporter: you're talking about specifically the draft report. that's the only one we've seen. the final report will come later today. that draft report, kate -- and i want to urge people to really lean on some skepticism here because i've read through this 90-plus-page report and it is riddled with errors, meant to sort of muddy the waters about what happened in 2020. the handle count gave president biden 99 more votes than maricopa found in its initial canvass. then donald trump lost 261 volt votes losing by a bigger margin than officially on the record. as i mentioned, the final report is coming out in just a few hours. there will be a presentation before the senate. it is not over here in arizona. it is not over anywhere. i want you to take a listen to maricopa county supervisor bill gates. he is a republican who bugged his party to defend democracy. take a listen. >> we certainly for the first time in our history, we did not have a peaceful transition of power. we now know that. but is that going to become the new norm? i certainly hope not. and by pushing back on this audit and the supporters of it and the dark money that's included in it, hopefully we can make this a one and done activity. >> reporter: one and done, though, is not what donald trump wants. just yesterday he sent a letter to texas governor greg abbott pressuring him to put in some legislation about bringing in arizona-style audits. and you mentioned it, kate, the secretary of state there announced that the four largest counties would begin those audits. kate? >> kyung lah, thanks for staying on this. joining me now is cnn legal analyst ben ginsburg. ben, let's start with arizona and then talk about the bigger problem because it's all intertwined. it is getting bigger. this was trump's best chance to prove his lies, as people believe. he swung and missed in arizona. what does this mean now in arizona? >> it means in arizona that the talk of reforming elections should be based on much more facts than has been so far. so in arizona, as a legal matter, i think some of the legislative reforms that republicans have wanted to push through will run into a roadblock. and as a political matter, this has left the party deeply divided going into a key election year. so as this plays out over the course of the upcoming campaign, i think republicans in arizona are going to see what a mistake taking on this cyber anyone. project was. >> hmm. so, ben, though, this has metastasized. now you have in pennsylvania republicans trying a repeat there, in wisconsin, there's an effort going on there, in texas, as we were just talking about, trump literally put out a quote/unquote open letter and it said greg abbott, we need a forensic audit of the 2020 election, says donald trump, and greg abboltd says okay. no matter what, truth be damned, isn't the damage already done? >> well, the audits do come at a cost, people having faith in elections, but it's more likely to be republicans who sort of lose their faith in elections. that's not a good electoral strategy. and honestly, i see a silver lining in the states taking on these audits. you have 30% of the population who believes the elections were not accurate. that's going to be really hard for the people in arizona to swallow given, as you put it, the swing and the miss by the cyber ninjas here. i do believe that the same -- >> ben, haven't we also just seen in that 30% that it late rally doesn't matter what it said? they won't believe it. they'll think the cyber ninjas are in cahoots with democrats. i don't know what the next chapter will be. >> well, look, you've got to change the current dynamic somehow. as people in the news media say that this is a big lie and false, that's not having an impact. so allowing donald trump his fortoum make his case and failing utterly as they did in arizona, may be the way you can peel some of the people off. what's going to happen in texas and wisconsin and pennsylvania is going to be a similar embarrassment to donald trump and his supporters. that may be the way to shown it's completely ineffective and a bad electoral strategy. >> i will wait to see how -- obviously we all will -- to see how it bears out. but putting more numbers out there, you've seen these poll numbers i know, but they're a reminder for everyone. a recent cnn poll showed that among republicans 78%, and this is in august and september, 78% said joe biden did not legitimately win enough votes to win the presidency. 54% said there is solid evidence that biden did not win, which there, of course, is not. if they're so convinced already, so many republicans, why, again, would the outcome of any of these sham audits convince them otherwise? i don't see it. >> because this has been donald trump's best case to do the audit, brought in people who were supportive of him, it was funded by pool who were supportive of him, they swung and missed. they couldn't prove what he said was going to be there. that's a huge embarrassment. that's a loss. donald trump doesn't like being a loser, but that's also what's going to happen in texas, wisconsin, and pennsylvania. and so i do think that at least some of those 78% of republicans are going to be sensible enough to realize that this case is wrong and to re-evaluate precisely where they are. >> it's great to see you, ben. thank you for coming on. >> thanks, kate. up next, the self-imposed deadline and a promise to vote on the infrastructure deal on capitol hill is just days away now. the democrats do not have the full caucus of all the members on board. they have the debt ceiling, a massive budget bill, all hanging in the balance. a key democrat joins us next. i bring 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the party's national safety net bill to the floor as soon as next week, but they are a long way from that and we are now as you can see heading into the weekend. moderate democrats are expecting a vote monday on the separate bipartisan infrastructure bill with or without the other massive spending bill. lauren fox is on capitol hill joining again for the latest on this. president biden said both need to be passed. where are things right now? >> reporter: the leadership team just met in house speaker nancy pelosi's office. as they emerged from that meeting, the house speaker said that the plan is when she was asked specifically about whether she would bring that massive $3.5 trillion bill to the floor, she said that is the plan as of now for next week. now, a lot can shift. a lot can change because there is still a lot of work to do on that massive social infrastructure plan. one of the issues that they still have to work out, of course, with the senate is how much that bill should cost. but the house is really trying to project momentum right now, and that is because pelosi had already promised her moderate members that vote on the $1.2 trillion infrastructure bill on monday. and she has a number of progressives, enough to sink that proposal, arguing that if they don't see more progress on that bigger bill, they are going to stand in the way of the passage of the infrastructure bill on monday. so pelosi trying to make it clear to her caucus that she is doing everything at the same time. over the weekend, the budget committee is going to continue working on that bigger $3.5 trillion economic plan in hopes of getting it ready potentially to come to the floor next week. the speaker making it clear her plan is to try to bring that bigger bill to the floor next week. can they pull it off given the differences, that remains to be seen. >> lauren, thank you so much. appreciate it. joining me for more on this, democratic congresswoman debbie gang l of michigan. thanks for coming in. you have said failure is not an option when it comes to all of this. is that what you all face if you don't get a vote -- if you don't move the vote on the infrastructure piece of this on monday? >> kate, it was not a leadership meeting per se that the speaker just had. she met with all of her committee chairmen. i've seen many special moments on the hill. this stand out the most special i've seen. i know the old will rogers statement that people -- we are decidedly in the sausage making stage. where there's a will, there's a way. failure is not an option. it is going to be republicans, the moderates, everybody. the united states fails. we cannot let that happen. there's a lot of different opinions, but nancy is now move ing trying to bring people together. we can begin discussion of that. we need votes. the president is absolutely right. there are things in the bipartisan bill, whenever you can bring people together, that's a good thing. but that bipartisan bill doesn't do enough to get electric vehicles actually on the roads. it doesn't do enough to get laeld out of pipes so that people don't have lead in their pipes. it isn't enough to get broadband into rural areas. there are things we've agreed on together to make sure will happen. budget committee meets tomorrow. there will be a lot of people working over the weekend, probably yelling at people over the weekend, and the other thing is that you have to remember, it's not just joe manchin and kyrsten sinema. you have 100 members. >> that's become very clear, it's not just joe manchin and kyrsten sinema. that's why you called it very kindly a special moment e because that's what we're really seeing happen here. but lay it out, is it because progressives do not trust moderates and moderates don't trust progressives in the party right now? yes, failure may not be an option for you guys, and yes, both can pass. but i don't see yet where the give is. is it -- >> i'm talking to a lot of people. and i do believe that people know we cannot fail, we simply cannot fail. the american people are depending upon us to get this figured out. >> calling someone's bluff, then. >> i don't know that it's calling someone's bluff. i think you'll have a lot of discussions over the weekend. i think the budget committee will try to start to put this together. she's met with all her committee chairmen. i think the president needs to talk to -- i pick this number out of no place. there are 180 democrats that aren't being called to the white house, but want to be consulted, have a lot of things that people care about, who cannot let their constituents down, who also need to just be talked to, told what is happening and listened to. this has got to get pulled together, but you know what, you and i have been around, and miracles hatch and we will not let the american people down. i might get an ulcer by monday. but we have to get this done. >> let me play in terms of -- let me play the budget chairman -- what the budget chairman told me earlier this week because his view on this i thought was interesting in terms of how this needs to play out. he's talking specifically about moderates here. let me play this for you. >> the moderates definitely want access to child care and pre-k education and paid family medical leave and community college. the moderates want that as well. i think ultimately as i've been telling them for four months and my job has been herding democratic cats, you can posture all you want and you should because you should stand up for your principles and priorities, but ultimately you're all going to vote for this. by the way, have you met nancy pelosi. >> what he's getting at is something i think it's time to call -- they call a spade a spade. is this posturing that we're seeing? they might totally believe it, but in the end, are people going to fall in line with whatever number speaker pelosi says? >> we have got -- by the way, the american people want -- now, you know, a lot of the problem solvers aren't going to vote for the bipartisan bill on monday. this isn't the way we're supposed to govern. we're supposed to listen to different perspectives, find that common ground and deliver. the "d" in democrat is deliver. we need to deliver for the american people. our caucus has to come together. each of us has responsibility to understand we have to get this done. we have to deliver for our people. and i believe in the end, it won't be pretty, but getting there, we will do it. >> i hear your passion, and i know you mean it. >> i'm crazy. but we cannot fail. we have to fix our roads and bridges. we have to get the lead out of pipes. we do need child care. we need home health care. >> what is joe biden going to do to change that? because -- >> i think joe biden would do a lot by just coming up and talk to the senate. it would be good for him to talk to house members too. >> you think that view is pervasive? >> i know it is. i've communicated it and probably in trouble saying it as a republican. but i don't care. >> congresswoman, thanks for coming on. we often use a line from capitol hill, the darkest before the dawn. i don't know if that's what this is, but it's looking pretty dark. good to see you. thank you. >> but hope. we can't fail simply cannot fail. >> i appreciate your perspective. thank you. >> thank you. we'll be right back. we look at what you've saved, what you'll need, and help you build a flexible plan for cash flow that lasts, even when you're not working, so you can go from saving... to living. ♪ let's go ♪ ♪ thousands of women with metastatic breast cancer are living in the moment and taking ibrance. ibrance with an aromatase inhibitor is for postmenopausal women or for men with hr+, her2- metastatic breast cancer as the first hormonal based therapy. ibrance plus letrozole significantly delayed disease progression versus letrozole. ibrance may cause low white blood cell counts that may lead to serious 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happen. they probably have a breakthrough case and they'll be okay i'm sure because they're both vaccinated up the wazoo. you know, a lot of vaccines. so -- and the vice president is being prepped for her arrival, right. they clean the table, we a wered the hands, everybody's getting cleaned up and she'll be out here in a second. >> first and foremost, it's good to hear anna and sonny are doing okay. let me bring in brian stelter and jeremy diamond for more on this. tell us more about what you're learning has happened. >> this interview with the vice president has been derailed because of the covid tests and the positive results. now maybe they'll be able to interview the vice president remotely. but obviously it's a concern whenever the vice president is around folks who have tested positive for covid. that is why there are so many tests. when you're on a show like "the view" on abc you're getting tested before you go into the studio. so the host, you know, receives their rapid test and apparently live during the program, during the hour, they receive their positive test results. now, we know there are lots of these positive cases among vaccinated people, most folks never even show symptoms. that's one of these situations with anna and sunny, feeling just find, but it turns out in their nose is a little bit of covid so they were having to leave the set. it does derail the vice presidential interview as a result. this interview was on the books for weeks, kate, a very big moment for the first female vice president on this talk show geared toward women. now who know what is will happen. >> the video we're showing everyone, this is from the show open. you see that anna and sunny are there at the desk coming out. s they were ready to let this play out. jeremy, what have you heard from the vice president's office about this? >> well, they did confirm to me that indeed the vice president is going to be doing this interview but will be doing it remotely from a studio in the building separate from that larger studio where the hosts are and where ana navarro and sunny hostin were seated moments before they were taken off of that set. we are also hearing according to a white house official that the vice president did not interact with ana navarro or sunny hostin before the show. so there's no indication that she has been exposed or that she is a contact as it relates to both of those women testing positive for coronavirus. obviously, this is an abundance of caution that the white house is taking these precautions to keep the vice president out of the room where the other hosts whoch not tested positive but who were clear hi in contact with anna and sunny are still seated. look, the white house takes -- undergoes a lot of precautions as it relates to the president and vice president. jen psaki, the press secretary, told me the president is regularly tested and same applies for the vice president, and people who interact with them in close quarters are also regularly tested. the white house press pool, for example, when traveling, small group of reporters, frachers who travel with the president or was in the room with the president in the oval office and smaller events, they also must be tested on the day in which they are in that pool. so these precautions are ongoing and of course we know that the president, he is set to receive his booster shot because he's over 65. we don't know yet whether the vice president will receive a booster shot, but i would think she would apply or that she would come in the category of frontline workers it into told that shot. >> one thing this shows is the importance of regular testing, easily available testing with rapid result testing, because that is what we're seeing play out right here. jeremy, we know the vice president, one of the things that the vice president was going to face was likely some very tough questioning from the panel about the administration's policy at the border, the administration's handling of the haitian migrants at the border. i mean, look no further than how defensive the strong defense that president biden tried to put forward in that press conference just last hour and what he said about what he's seeing. what are you hearing -- and kamala harris is likely to face similar questioning here. >> yeah. look, she actually had spoken out about those images of those border patrol agents on horseback before the president even did. when we heard from the president today condemning those actions, vowing that those proehlborder officers would pay a price, that was the first time we'd heard from the president. we heard from the vice president a couple days ago with strong words. she has been in conversations with many of those administration allies who have been extremely critical of the white house and its handling of the haitian migrants. most notably, she met earlier this week at the vice president's residence with members of the congressional black caucus who in recent days have been really at the forefront of urging this administration to make some serious policy changes as it relates to these haitian migrants, not just to punish those border patrol officers who were -- appeared to be swinging their reins in the direction of those haitian migrants but to take some broader steps in terms of changing the policy as it relates to those migrants, thousands of whom are still being deported back to haiti, which according to the special envoy who resigned this week, is essentially a collapsed state. we don't know yet whether the white house is going to be taking any of those steps to change policies, but certainly the rhetoric has gotten stronger from the white house and i think we can expect to hear similar words from the vice president today once she ultimately appears on the show, albeit in different fashion from what they were expecting. >> absolutely. and brian, my intrepid reporter, javy got a text from anna and she is feeling fine. so importantly, they are doing okay. but you were kind of getting at this, brian. this is -- i don't know if this is -- how would you describe it? the new normal? the way this is going to be with the country grappling with getting back to live production and getting back to a way of life in the midst of having to work and controlling this virus? >> yeah. what a covid-19 case meant in april of 2020 is not what it means today. when you are vaccinated, having a case of covid-19 means you might have the sniffles. some people do end up getting a bit more sick and a very small number of vaccinated end up in the hospital. but we know when you're vaccinated, having a covid-19 case is not what it was when you were unvaccinated. i think this is the new normal and we're seeing it play out on television in a way that's interesting because millions of people are watching it happen live. i think it also underscores the importance of having rap i would testing. the united states has failed in this regard. europe, other parts of the world have been much better about having lots of available rapid tests so you can walk into a studio and know ten minutes later whether you're positive or not. america is lagging behind on this matter, but in the television world, on movie sets, in marked for identification productions, there are lots of these rapid tests. it's basically a prerequisite to go to work in the morning. that's why it was at "the view" today because the vice president was coming by, that's why all the hosts were getting tested and had to get checked out. an interesting disconnect, i think. if you're going to be appearing on national temperature on the voou with the vice president, you get a rapid test and a quick result. a lot of americans going to cvs and walgreens can't get these rapid tests. that remains a problem. i wonder if "the view" panelists will bring it up to the vice president now. >> maybe a good topic to bring up. thanks for jumping on. we'll continue to 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series "champions for change" we get the opportunity to spotlight everyday people making a big difference. today we want to introduce you to a retired three-star general who is helping military families of color through the organization blue star families. here's cnn's brianna keilar. >> reporter: they say that military service is a family birks and that's really the truth. >> the sacrifice of military families, it's not a temporary moment that we sacrifice. we sacrifice every single day. >> this is a cause close to moy heart because i'm a military spouse and my kids are part of a military family. my husband is an army special officer. he missed the entire pregnancy of our 3 yearly. at the heart of three-star families is making life better for military families so that service members can continue to serve of because it gives people a network. >> i couldn't be the ready soldier i was if my husband and my kids weren't cared for. >> general binge hp, she's a trailblazer. she's the second black woman to be a three-star general in the army. she has so often been the first woman, the first african-american to do the job that she's doing. >> for every first that i made, there was someone else that came before me and plowed tough ground. >> after 38 years, lieutenant general gwen bingham retired from the army, but she's not done serving. she's putting her experience and expertise to work as a board member for blue star families. by-law star families recognized that families of color were experiencing greater hardships than other military families. that's really where general bingham stepped up. blue star families tapped general gwen bingham to be the co-chair of this racial equity and inclusion initiative. >> what we're looking to do is to assess the needs of our military families of color and to get a sense for what their highs and their lows are. >> they were reporting more financial distress. >> military spouse deployment continues to be a concern. >> this has included a number of military spouses from military families of color, and they are training them in how to really help make life better for military families. >> this fellowship provides me, the first step, phenomenal mentor source with us and teaching you just from a leadership perspective as a military spouse how to position yourself to move forward and upward. this is life-changing. >> policy-making can be kind of boring sounding, but that's what change is, you know, taking challenges and figuring out how to make solutions. that's what chara is doing and that's what many, many more people are going to be doing in the future. >> ultimately i would love to be on the hill making change on the policy side. >> can you please give me two plates. >> i'm a mother of two persons of colors and because their dad is in the military they are more likely to join the military when they are older, and i want to make sure that it is an inclusive place. that's where general bingham is a champion for change because she wants to make sure that other people can have the same successes that she's had. >> as someone who has fought as hard as she fought and broken down the barriers that she's broken down believe that you can do this, too, then you can. >> i just feel a sense of wanting, a sense of desire to pay it forward or pay it back to the next generation that's up and coming. >> briana, general bingham is such an amazing leader. what an amazing woman. can you tell us more about how this initiative got started. >> this really started as issues of racism and inclusion, kate, have been a bigger issue in society writ large. you had a lot of military service organization and veterans organizations, like blue star that i'm lucky enough to be on the board of, and they were saying these issues are also confronting the military and confronting military families and then that was driven home you'll recall in the last spring when we saw all on camera a latino army officer who was in uniform pulled over by police in virginia, and he was pepper sprayed, all caught on camera, as i said, but you have issues obviously like that, but there's also issues like financial distress as we mentioned in isolation, and these are things that are confronting military families of color that certainly need to be addressed, and that's really what you see happening here. >> that's great to spotlight it. thanks for bringing that to us. >> thank you. >> you can watch "champions for change," a one-hour store we general binge hrp's story and so much more tomorrow night at 8:00 p.m. ♪ ♪ ♪ all right. an update on another breaking news story. officials in tennessee just announced that the suspect in yesterday's mass shooting in a memphis-area grocery store was a third-party vendor for kroger. police say ten store employees, five customers were shot during the attack. one person was killed. now the suspect was found dead at the scene of an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound. you can be sure there are 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