And moment of truth as a divide in the party throws the president s agenda into question. We ought not talk about these numbers. Lets talk about what needs to be done. But can democratic governors get it done. I will speak with Jim Clyburn ahead. As President Biden tries to refocus on his legislative agenda, pushing through a massive 3. 5 trillion Spending Bill that could define his presidency. Only furthering confusion, for so many americans, as the pandemic hits another horrifying milestone this week, one in 500 americans have died from the virus, more than 673,000 people represented here on the national mall with flags for each death. This debate over boosters comes as the biden administration is on its heels, with a number of of crises of its own doing, facing a devastating acknowledgment from the pentagon friday that a Drone Strike in afghanistan killed ten civilians, a surge of migrants at the southern border leaving thousands of people, mostly from haiti, huddled under a bridge as they wait to be processed and a diplomatic breakdown with american ally france after a new national Security Partnership with the uk and australia. We begin today with the pandemic. And this booster debate. Medical Adviser Dr. Anthony fauci. Youve been a proponent of Booster Shots for the General Public, but the Fda Advisory Committee overwhelmingly disagrees with you. Do you think that advisory committee made a mistake . Do you think the fda officials should ignore the advisory Committees Recommendation . No, not at all. Jake, i dont think they made a mistake, and they the fda absolutely should not ignore them. As we said in the beginning, we would want to plan for the possibility of vaccinating all those who have gotten their initial vaccination with pfizer, and it was always pending the evaluation of all of the totality of the data, from the united states, Israel And Dmi bit of data we could get by the advisory committee to the fda. They did that in the proper deliberative process and they came up with a recommendation which i think is a good recommendation because if you look at everyone over 65, and people from 18 to 64 with underlying conditions that make them more likely to have a severe outcome, and those who are 18 to 64, who by either institutional or occupational situation put them at a higher risk for Exposure And Infection youre going to get a pretty good chunk of the population. I dont think they made a mistake but the one thing i think people need to realize that data are coming in on a daily and weekly basis and the decision based on the data that was seen by the committee was a decision that weve just mentioned. Theyre going to continue to look at this, literally in realtime, more data will be coming in on both safety for younger individuals, efficacy, both from israel, other countries, as well as our substantial cohorts, that the cdc is following. So the story is not over yet. I think people need to understand that. This is not the end of the story. On wednesday you said in an interview, quote, if they say we dont think theres enough data to do a booster, then so be it, i think that would be a mistake to be honest with you, so on wednesday you said, it would be a mistake. So but now youre saying you dont think it was a mistake . No, i mean, i you know, what i was saying that mistake, my own personal looking at this, again, just because i look at the data and say i would do it this way, thats the reason why we have qualified groups of people who together as a committee examine all the data and make a decision. So i have no problem at all with their decision. The thing that im saying is that data will continue to come in, and i believe youre going to see an evolution of this process as we go on in the next several weeks to months. Youve said there are indications that the vaccines lose effectiveness over time. You still believe that at some point the General Public will need Booster Shots, just the Fda Advisory Committee is not there yet . Jake, what i believe, and, again, this is my opinion as a scientist and a public health person, that it is entirely conceivable, and maybe likely, that ultimately when we look back on this, the proper regimen for protection, optimal protection, and durability of protection, would be more than just the prime and the boost followed by three to four weeks. That it might actually entail a third boost. That is entirely conceivable because, remember, jake, when we did the initial studies, what we did was we had to move very, very quickly because we were dealing, and still are, with an emergency situation. So the prime followed by a boost in three weeks for pfizer and four weeks for moderna has already saved millions of lives globally. But that doesnt mean that thats the optimal regimen. What im saying, when all is said and done, an optimal regimen may be three shots for everyone. But right now, based on the data that was examined by the advisory committee, their decision, which i respect, is to go the way we just said, with having some limitations on it. Remembering always that data keeps coming in on a weekly basis and we are going to see likely an evolution of this decision. Youre in a high risk group, i believe youre 80. Is that right . Have you gotten your booster . That no, i am 80, and im an elderly person, certainly eligible. I will certainly get a booster, yes. You will get one but you have not gotten one yet. Yeah, yeah, right. I want to play what President Biden said about this Booster Idea one month ago. The plan is for every adult to get a Booster Shot eight months after you got your second shot. Pending approval from the Food And Drug administration, the Cdcs Committee of outside experts will be ready to start these boosters this Booster Program during the week of september 20. So dr. Jesse goodman, the fdas former chief scientist told Cnn Friday that biden making that announcement ahead of time. Before the fda and the cdc made theirs was, quote, backwards and not helpful and at the very least, even though he did say appending approval. This is causing more confusion. Was it a mistake for the president to announce this before the Fda And Cdc issued their guidance . Jake, i dont think so. The president was very clear as was the medical group when we said we are planning to do this and it was always said, in his official statement, in the official written statement from All Of Us, including the fda, and the cdc, that was pending, and on the condition of the examination of all of the data by the fda. Its understandable how there could have been some confusion, but what was said was pretty clear, jake. Many healthy, fully vaccinated americans are already going out and getting Booster Shots. Without waiting for government approval, what happens if that trend continues, people just ignore the Fda Advisory Committee recommendation, are there risks involved in that . Well, we are strongly recommending that people do not do that, that they abide by the recommendation. And in this case, as you know, created in 65, and certain people, 18 to 64, with different conditions, and different circumstances in life, i mean obviously people are going to do that. It is not recommended. We recommend that people wait until you get to the point where you fall into the category where its recommended. But youre right, people will be doing that. But thats human nature, not much you can do about that. But theres not a risk involved, theres not necessarily anything that bad that will happen to them, or is there . You know, theres always a theoretical risk because the studies have not been done to look at the safety and the immunogenicity of doing that right now for everyone. But people who get J J will be coming in asking to get pfizer and moderna, et cetera. Theoretically if you look at things it is very unlikely that theres going to be a risk there but scientifically, you dont want to go by unlikely. You want to have some scientific proof, and thats the reason why, right now, we recommend that people go by the guidelines according to the fda approval, and the cdc recommendations. So those who have been fully vaccinated, with the moderna vaccine, or the johnson johnson vaccine, who are over the age of 65, or are at high risk, youre saying do not go out and get the booster, unless youve gotten unless youre a pfizer person, moderna, J J, wait for more information for your boosters . Yes, and that wait, jake, is not going to be very long. We fully anticipate that within a period of a couple to three weeks, that there will be enough information on the data that will be presented to the fda by J J and by moderna that well be able to proceed and get those data analyzed to be able to move with the booster, in those categories. We dont believe its going to be a considerable period of time. I want to ask you about people who were previously infected with covid, who you and i have discussed this before, have some lingering antibody protections. I understand that vaccination offers stronger protections, but whats your answer when people say why does bidens new federal Vaccine Mandate have to apply to people that have had Covid Given that they have some protection already . Yeah, it is true, they do have protection. The one thing that we are not aware of yet, and hopefully well get that data, is what the durability of protection is. And looking ahead, whether or not that type of a protection thats induced by natural infection, how that will be against the variety of variants as they arrive. Im not denying at all that people who get infected and recover have a considerable degree of immunity. We also know, and i think we should not let this pass without saying it, that when you get infected and recover, a, you get a good degree of immunity, but b, when you get vaccinated, you dramatically increase that protection, which is something thats really quite good. One in 500 americans have now died from covid, and we are, as a nation, about to surpass 675,000 americans. Thats the number of americans who died in the 1918 influenza pandemic. Do you think that the united states could see A Million deaths due to covid before this is all over . Well, i certainly hope not. I hope not. I dont believe at all that that is something that is an inevitability by any means. We have the capability within our own power, with our vaccines, which are highly efficacious and effective in the real world, and safe, that if we get the overwhelming proportion of our population vaccinated, were not going to see that at all. Remember, we have about 70 Million people in the population who are eligible to be vaccinated, who have not yet gotten vaccinated. If we can get most of those people vaccinated, when i say the overwhelming majority, we will not see the kinds of deaths that you just mentioned. All right, dr. Anthony fauci, thanks so much for answering our questions today. Good to be with you, thank you, jake. President biden is accusing our next guest of putting peoples lives at risk with his covid stance, the governor of the state with the highest Covid Death Rate will join me next. 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About one out of every 320 people in mississippi have died of coronavirus. And the republican governor of Mississippi Tate reeves joins me now. Governor, thanks so much for joining us. Take a listen to President Biden singling out your state in a speech on thursday. Mississippi, children are required to be vaccinated against measles, mumps, rubella, chickenpox, hepatitis b, polio, tetanus and more. I propose a requirement for Covid Vaccines, and the governor of that state calls it, quote, a tyrannical type move. Now, governor, i understand the distinction between the federal government imposing a mandate, and state law. But just stepping aside from the idea of President Biden imposing this, why are you and the Mississippi Legislature willing to impose mandates for other vaccines, but not when it comes to the Covid Vaccine that you, yourself, have gotten . Well, the Mississippi Legislature has enacted laws, jake, and, again, thanks for having me on today. The legislature has enacted laws regarding vaccines of many types. It is unique to kids and their ability to go to our public schools, its not vaccines mandated in the workplace. But the question here is not about what we do in mississippi, its what this president is trying to impose upon the american worker. The president very much wants you and everyone else to believe that this is a fight between politicians. The reality is, this is an attack by the president on hardworking americans, and hardworking mississippians who he wants to choose between getting a jab in their arm and their ability to feed families. I believe thats a false choice. The president does not have the authority to do this. He knows he doesnt have the authority to do this, in my opinion, but he wants to change the political narrative away from afghanistan and away from the other issues that are driving his Poll Numbers into the Ground And Focus on anything, particularly a political fight, other than those issues. Well, i mean, the virus has killed more than 660,000 americans, youre calling the move tyrannical. So our viewers understand it, President Biden says hes using a Workplace Safety Law called the occupational Safety And Health act to justify the mandate. That law says that the government can impose an Emergency Order if it determines, quote, that employees are exposed to Grave Danger from exposure to substances, or agents determined to be toxic, or physically harmful, or from new hazards, and that such Emergency Standard is necessary to protect employees from such danger. I mean, if there ever were a reason to use this law wouldnt it be during a pandemic with almost 2,000 americans dying every day . Well, again, jake, over 9,000 mississippians have passed away with covid, and every single one of them breaks my heart. It is a very difficult situation that we as mississippians and we as americans find ourselves in but we also have to understand, as we look forward, if this president has the ability to mandate vaccines, what powers do we not grant this president . What does he not have the ability to do . And from my friends on the left i just want to point something out. This should scare democrats as much as it scares republicans. The fact is, if we give unilateral authority by one individual to do anything that he wants to do, whether its a jab in the Arm Or Anything else, then this country is in deep, deep, Deep Trouble and thats not something that im willing to stand by and allow him to do. Obviously weve made it very clear that we are prepared to sue once we actually see the rule. Thats another point that i think your viewers need to know, jake, is that we havent seen the actual rule itself. Had a Press Conference ten days ago or so when this initially came out. Lets see what the rule actually says or lets see if its like the Eviction Order that the president signed onto, knowing that he was going to get thrown out by the Supreme Court and of course he certainly did. Lets talk about what you and the legislature in mississippi is doing because im sure i dont need to tell you, mississippi this week became the state with the worst number of coronavirus deaths per capita. In fact, if mississippi were its own country, you would be second in the world only to peru in terms of deaths per capita. Thats a horrible, horrible, heartbreaking statistic. With all due respect, governor, your way is failing. Are you going to try to change anything to change this horrible statistic from what youre doing already . Yeah, well, obviously in mississippi our legislature is a parttime legislature. Sometimes i wonder if in america if our congress was parttime we wouldnt be in a better position. But lets talk a little bit about mississippi and for what, second worst in the world. I mean, how could you say that . Lets talk about where we are and jake, lets talk about where we are, and why we are there. In large part, just like the summer of 2020, it was the Sun Belt states that saw the initial surge from the Delta Variant. It started the first state that i saw seeing upticks was missouri and then it was arkansas and then it was louisiana. And now its mississippi. Our surge went from less than 100 cases per day in mississippi to 3,600, much like what happened in the country of israel, much like what happened in the country of great britain and england. We saw a very quick spike and now were seeing a very quick decline in the total number of cases. We spiked at about 3,600, were now half of that in our state. As you know, unfortunately fatalities is a Lagging Indicator when it comes to the virus. Its a Lagging Indicator. Timing has as much to do with that statistic you used as anything else. As we see in 2021 what occurred in 2020 as the Delta Variant moves around the country and its going to happen. Preponderate wants you to believe that the Delta Variant is only affecting republicans in Red States. Thats not true. That is not a fact. That is just not true. So what youre going to see governor, my point is this you compare yourself to israel. Going to move around the country and youre going to see fatalities ride in other states. Heres what we need to focus on, jake my question is, what are you going to do to change this . The best way that americans the best way the best thing for americans to do to protect themselves from the virus, and, again, we believe in personal responsibility, individual americans, and individual mississippians. So youre not going to change anything. Make good decisions to take care of themselves, the best thing that americans can do is talk to their doctor about potentially getting the vaccine. In our state 89 of those hospitalized and some 87 of those who are of the deaths, are actually coming from those who are unvaccinated. So the number one thing you can do is you can get talk to your doctor about getting vaccinated. The number two thing is if you get the virus, and this is very important, if you get the virus, please talk to your doctor about the monoclonal antibody treatment. Thats the best way in which to do that. Unfortunately the biden administration continues to try to reduce the allocation to Red States like Mississippi And Florida of that monoclonal antibody treatment. Its outrageous. Governor, if mississippi were a country, you would have the second worst per capita Death Toll in the world, and im saying are you going to do anything to try to change that . Jake, as i mentioned earlier, deaths unfortunately are a Lagging Indicator. Our total number of cases went from 100 to 3,600 and over the last two weeks has declined. Theyve been cut in half. From 3,600 to 1,800. When you wanted me to come on three or four weeks ago and talk about our number of cases then you want to talk about our hospitalizations, now you want to talk about a Lagging Indicator, which is sad, and its horrible. Im trying to talk about dead mississippians. My heart breaks for all the mississippians that have passed away. Lets put this in perspective, jake. But Mississippi Accounts for 1 of the u. S. Population. We account for 1. 1 of the total number of cases in america. And we account for 1. 29 of the total number of fatalities in america. And so the reality is, the Delta Variant is very transmissible. And it is moving around the country. If you want to talk about cases right now, talk about kentucky, or West Virginia, or whats happening in north carolina, or moving into southern virginia. Im asking you about your state. But im not going to ask you about West Virginia or kentucky, im asking you about your state. You seem to be very, very activated when it comes to fighting the mandate from the federal government. And i understand the arguments youre making, but what President Biden is trying to do is save lives. Now, you can think its bad policy, or its unconstitutional, and thats fine, we can have that discussion, we already have, but hes trying to save lives. Im saying to you, your ways not working and whether you say its a Lagging Indicator, or whatever, your argument is, mississippi now has, if it were its own country, the second worst per capita Death Rate in the world, behind only peru. And im saying, are you going to try to do anything to change that and im not hearing an answer. Well, what i have said to you repeatedly, jake, is that mississippi has taken action, mississippi has seen a significant uptick in the total number of mississippians that have gotten the vaccine. Weve seen our Case Numbers have fallen dramatically in the last two weeks. And so ultimately, as i have said, deaths, unfortunately, is a Lagging Indicator, weve seen cases, again, cut in half in mississippi. And these other states that you refuse to talk about, perhaps because they have democratic governors, you dont want to talk about them. But the reality is, you and the president and so many other people want to make this about politics. The governor of West Virginia is a republican. Not just attacking republicans in Red States. This virus is not just attacking republicans in Red States. This virus is attacking republicans and democrats in Red States and in blue states. And what we ought to be talking about is what can we do to minimize the deaths going forward . The president s not focused on saving lives, the president s focused on taking unilateral action to show his power, to show that hes doing something, but thats not going to solve things. Okay. The governor of West Virginia is a republican. But Governor Tate reeves im not going to have a governor come on to talk about other states, i want to talk about your state. We hope the Case Rate continues to go down and that the Death Rate follows and also goes down. Thank you so much for joining us today. Thanks for having me on, jake. The coming week is critical for the biden legislative agenda. House progressives are warning they could sink a major bill. How will democratic Leadership Respond . Well ask Democratic Whip Jim Clyburn next. Or bring a friend and you both get a month for 5. That Delicious Omelet was microwaved . Get outta here. Everybodys a skeptic. Paper money. Its the future get outta here. Im leaving with my gold. Its not crazy. Help me, mother. Its an omelet. 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Given the fact that you currently dont have 50 votes in the senate either, it therefore seems pretty unlikely that the Reconciliation Package will pass both the House And Senate in just the next eight days, dont you think . Well, thank you very much for having me, jake, well, you know, were all negotiating, and, of course, we have a pretty big tent in our party. We have progressives that are very, very important, not just to the party, but to the country, and we have more moderates and thats how it should be. We reflect what this country is all about, and we have a pretty evenly divided country these days, and All Of Us are working through that. So i know that everybody in our party understand that the country is at a point that we must do some things that we would not do ordinarily. And some of these things are going to be pretty expensive. But the expense real expense is in not doing them. We cannot continue with this pandemic, weve got to spend the money thats necessary to get beyond it. Weve got to do something about our infrastructure, bridges are breaking down all over and weve got to do something about it. But the progressives are going to vote against the bipartisan Infrastructure Plan when it comes to the House Floor on September 27th, unless it also comes with the 3. 5 trillion budget deal. Youre not going that have passed by September 27th, are you . Well, we cant. Thats my point. Unless, lets be sure that we never get to that point. And thats why we have so much work going on now, our leadership is on this. We are working with everybody in all corners of our party, theyre trying to get to a common ground on all of these issues and i feel very comfortable that we are going to get there. So youre certaIn The House will still vote on this bipartisan Infrastructure Bill on September 27th, and that it will pass, or is it also possible youll delay the vote . Well, thats always a possibility that the vote will get delayed. But the question is, are we going to work to get to our goal for September 27th . Yes. We are going to work hard to reach that goal. And sometimes you have to kind of stop the clock to get to the goal. Well do whats necessary to get there. You suggested on cnn last week that the Reconciliation Bill could be less than 3. 5 trillion. Senator manchin said on this show last week he wants a Price Tag closer to 1. 5 trillion. At the end of the day where do you think this is ultimately going to land. 2 trillion, 2. 5 trillion . Well, i have no idea. I also said last week that we ought to stop focusing on the number and start looking at what needs to be done. And if we are comfortable that were doing everything that needs to be done for the american people, then let the experts put the number on it, and that will determine how much we need to spend. And so it may be 3. 5 trillion, close to that or closer to something else. So i think that we ought to really focus on the american people, and think about what it takes to get us in a good place, and then let the numbers take care of themselves. Well, thats a nice sentiment but you have manchin in the senate saying he wants it closer to 1. 5 trillion and progressives In The House like tlaib, and jayapal, corey bush, suggesting they wont go lower than 3. 5 trillion at all. I wont tell you, you only have three votes to spare In The House. Are you confident youre going to have the votes to pass a Reconciliation Bill less than 3. 5 trillion . Lets just say im comfortable with where we are. Yes, i believe in our party, i believe in our leadership, i believe in all of the members that make up this great tent that we operate under. I think well get there. Its going to take some work, and we are going to do the work. I dont know that Theres Anybody in our party who feels that we cannot get there. They just want to make sure that all of the is are dotted, the ts are crossed and that we are responding to the american peoples needs and aspirations. Are you telling both the moderates and the progressives in this debate that they need to compromise, or is it just joe manchin, for example, who needs to compromise, or is it just the progressives who need to come down from the 3. 5 trillion . Well, you know,ive been in this business a long time. You know, one thing ive found out that in politics, as in families, you sit down and you try to find common ground. Some people may call that compromise. I call it doing what is necessary to maintain the integrity of the whole body. Thats what were going to do. We will find common ground and you may call it compromise. But thats what i call it. Finding common ground. Janet yellin says the u. S. May hit its Debt Limit next month. Senator Minority Leader Mitch Mcconnell says republicans will not vote to raise the Debt Limit. Will democrats fold it into a continuing resolution on the budget or the Reconciliation Plan and pass it with only democratic votes, whats the plan there . Well, i dont know that we have a plan to do that but i certainly would advocate doing that. You know, when i was a whip before we had the responsibility of keeping the country from going under after the great recession back in 2008 and the republicans, the majority of them, walked away from that and we filled in the void and did it as a party and well do that again. The full Faith And Credit of the united states of america should not be compromised on the altar of politics and i would hope that our republican friends would get beyond politics and do whats necessary to keep this country moving forward and keep us financially integrity in place. Youre not relying on your republican friends to vote that way, right, youre fine with it passing and the democrats only vote . No, im not fine with that but if thats what it takes, thats what it will take. The american people will see what the republicans are doing on this front as well. Theyre doing enough on the social front to destroy the integrity of this Countrys Fabric and they will see them doing the same thing on the financial front. I think we ought to do whats necessary, and the message to the american people, exactly who is trying to destroy this great democracy that we hope to keep in place. I do want to ask you about what we saw yesterday. It was a fairly paltry turnout for the justice for January 6th rally in support of the insurrectionists, thankfully it was not particularly violent. There were only four arrests. But you were there at the capitol on January 6th when this riot, this attempted insurrection happened, what is it like to see not only americans protesting in support of these criminals, but so many of your colleagues in the House Of Representatives express support for their cause . Well, you know, they made some political calculations that paid off last year in many parts of the country. But i think the american people in the last several months have begun to look at exactly whats going on here and they are rejecting that. Now i know that people talk about california as being the left course of whatever they may record it but californias result, i think, shows that the american people are sick and tired of the posturing, theyre sick and tired of the line. They want to see this country in a place that they can leave something for their children and grandchildren as their forebearers left for them. Thats where we are. And so i think that what you saw on saturday is a reflection of that. What you see with these republicans not choosing to run again, some switching parties, all of those things are reflections of the fact that the american people see in the Democratic Party the future of what this country ought to be and where this country can go, and i believe youre going to see that time and time again. Congressman Jim Clyburn of south carolina, the number three house democrat, thanks for being with us today. Thank you very much for having me. One of the ten House Republicans who voted to impeach Donald Trump just announced he is going to retire, is anyone in the gop going to listen to his message . Thats next. After forty, we need antiaging care that works. New Revitalift Night serum with Pure Retinol. Our most potent retinol. In a clinical test, 100 of women showed reduction of wrinkles. Even deep wrinkles. New Revitalift Night serum with Pure Retinol. From loreal paris. What happens when we Welcome Change . We can make Emergency Medicine possible at 40,000 feet. 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For that, gonzalez was targeted by trump for defeat and by trump supporters with threats of violence. Calling trump a cancer on the country, the cubanamerican former ohio State Football Star cited the demands of his family decided it wasnt worth it. One down, nine to go, noting the ten House Republicans that voted to impeach him. But its not just those ten House Republican that they are looking to get rid of, they want to destroy anyone who stood in their way. Trump Loyalists Congressman Jody heist, who is all in on trump, is now seeking to defeat Georgias Secretary of state in his republican primary, because he refused to take this order from then President Trump. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Not content with having asked him to find votes, to flip his loss in that state from a loss to a win, a matter how being investigated by law enforcement, President Trump on friday wrote to him demanding that he invalidate 43,000 absentee ballots, citing a claim on a website calling Joe Biden illegitimate. Again, what he is asking is that legal american voters be disenfranchised so he can claim he won. It is purely antidemocracy. As was, of course, this. Trying to storm the capitol, to stop congress from counting the Electoral College votes that made Joe Biden president. A small rally was held in d. C. Over this weekend, protesting their prosecution, a prosecution that began, we should note, at the Justice Department under trump. Trump thursday said our hearts and minds are with the people being persecuted so unfairly. Hes referring to a group of people, attacking the police. And while its good news that very few people came out in support of them of January 6 at the rally over this weekend, the toxin is in the Body Politic. A Cnn Poll this week showed that 59 of republicans and republican leaning independents say that the belief that trump won the 2020 election is important to being a republican. 59 . These voters have been lied to by Trump And Maga media for about a year now about the 2020 election and its set in and it continues. Heres s is Mike Lindell of my Pillow Meet Thing week with the Alabama Secretary of state. Of more consequence on wednesday, the republican legislature in pennsylvania began pushing another audit. This one funded by tax dollars, to prove widespread fraud. A State Senate Committee issued subpoenas to get the personal information of about 9 Million pennsylvania voters, including partial Social Security Numbers and Drivers License numbers. Heres City Commissioner al schmidt, who has been condemning this. Its really very circular when you look at it. You have lawmakers lying to constituents. You have deceived Constitch Wents Demabldzing that lawmakers do something about this issue. Keep in mind, republican members of congress from pennsylvania and the State Legislature from pennsylvania, they were elected on those same ballots. But in their view, nothing fraudulent happened when it came to their elections. That same day, on those same ballots, cast by those same voters. Why would that be . Congresswoman Liz Cheney has been making it very clear that the issue is not just that trump once attempted to undermine democracy, but they will try to do it again. They are trying to take out the key republicans who abided by the rule of law, such as gonzalez or cheney, so that next time they will succeed. Also this last week, we learned from an excerpt of the new Book Peril that then Vice President Pence was under so much pressure from then President Trump to overturn the election and declare trump the winner in the January 6 Electoral College Count with powers he does not have. Pence thought the advice of dan quayle. You dont know the position im in, pence complained. Mike, said dan quayle, you have no flexibility on this. None, zero. Put it away. Now, in the end, pence did the right thing. But what if he had not . Ask yourself, what might have happened to the united states and the american experment, our democracy, had someone else been in that role . Had Kevin Mccarthy been the speaker . What if the secretary of defense had been Mike Flynn who had started calling for President Trump to invoke partial martial law, to force new elections in states that biden won. The threat of violence is no longer an abstruaction. 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