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Well as the other agencies taking part in this search ended The Search for the evening. Well have to wait and see what time it picks up tomorrow but this comes after fbi officials gave us new details just within the last hour what you laid out there, pamela. That the one piece of news that so many people were hoping would turn out differently. Lets let you listen to part of the press conference. As every parent can imagine, this is an incredibly difficult time for the family and friends. Our thoughts and prayers are with them. We ask that you all respect the privacy as they mourn the loss of their daughter. Reporter and also this evening, northport police taken the lead over The Search here tweeting out saddened and heart broken to learn that gabby is found deceased. The focus with the fbi and national partners has been to bring her home. We will continue to work with the fbi in The Search for more answers. I can tell you there is certainly a desire to get more answers to so many of the questions still out there. Where is brian Laundrie Tonight . What happened that led to the death of gabby . So many questions. The reason were here tonight is because this is where Laundries Family told police that they believe he could be. They said that they had not seen him since tuesday and reported this to the police friday. Why they waited so long remains a frustration for detectives and police who have said so. So they said the last time they saw him he had a Hiking Backpack on and going to come here. This is by the way a wildlife reserve, 25,000 acres. Had a chance to go in. It is very swampy, dense and lush so lots of challenges for search teams that are trying to find someone in there. This is where the Laundrie Family said he could potentially be. So we will wait and see what is next in this search for him but clearly Law Enforcement trying to get to Brian Laundrie to see if that could provide more answers to what happened to Gabby Petito. All right. Laila, thank you so much. Now lets go to cnn legal analyst Paul Callon and Law Enforcement expert charles ramsey. They just found a body in wyoming that they are saying matches the description of Gabby Petito. We were told this would elevate him from A Person Of Interest to a suspect. That it would escalate The Search. Why would they call off The Search when theres still daylight there . Well, first of all, apparently it is starting to get dark. Maybe because they have searched it and not coming up with anything as of now. As far as i have been listening to this all day. The Medical Examiner has to determine cause of death. And right now certainly it doesnt look good. It looks like perhaps it could be a Homicide And Cant jump to conclusions. One thing thats important the Special Agent in charge of the Field Office from the fb is the body found in an area of rugged terrain so you dont know if the Medical Examiner is able to pinpoint a cause of death. This sounds to me like a case that needs a lot of work to get to a point to arrest and charge an individual. Having said that hes certainly is a person that you have to talk to. How did you come back without her . What happened . If he was involved and caused the death did he just leave her there and then she died . We dont know the answer to that. Hes key and they have to locate him if he went to the location where his parents are saying he went. This guy could be anywhere. Paul, we have two different search areas. Several Law Enforcement groups. Who is in charge . How do they work together . Thats a great question and ultimately we have wyoming involved, florida involved. We also have the fact that they were traveling, the couple throughout the west. So Law Enforcement authorities are going to have to decide if theres a criminal case where do we bring it . The most leekly place looks to me like wyoming because thats where the National Park is in which the remains were found but of course if the body was moved, if the homicide took place if it is a homicide and took place in another location that location may have jursisdiction so we wil have an issue there. One of the key things we dont know at this point is cause of death. Thats going to be the most important thing in any murder prosecution. The other thing that we dont know is time of death. Because time of death would be a key factor in that brian L Laundrie say he is a probable suspect but where is he when she died . If he has an alibi he didnt commit the murder so as bad as it looks for him we should hesitate before jumping to conclusion before we have more information from Law Enforcement authorities and for that we need an autopsy and more information about that cause of death. Charles, how long do you think it could take to determine the cause of death . It depends. We dont know the state of the body. Depending on when the person died, out in the elements, youd probably have significant decomposition. Animals may have gotten to the remains. I would think that theyd probably have a good idea in a day or two once they perform the autopsy. And again, looking at other evidence, it is not just about the body but the other evidence. The surrounding area. Is it a possibility that a serious fall to have taken place . They could show serious trauma to the body but was that necessarily caused by another person . Was the trauma caused as a result of the fail . There are a lot of things like that. The worst thing to have is an undetermined classification but it could be that but theres work to do to piece it together to turn it into anything other than just an open case. Could be accidental, homicide. But you need a lot of evidence to prove a homicide. Paul, you have this situation in wyoming where theres this forensic investigation and The Searching on for the fiancee yet to speak to police. How important is it for the police to talk to his family, to find him and potentially talk to him if he is willing to . So far we have heard from the attorney for the most part and know that the family told police on friday three days after they saw him that they believe he he is missing. They saw him tuesday with the Hiking Backpack. How important is it to talk to all of him in this . You will see The Search intensify by morning for him. If he were the last person to see gabby before she disappeared thats going to be a very important factor. I think ultimately this is going to be a federal case. Because it took place in a federal park. One of the things that federal authorities could do is to impanel a Grand Jury to issue subpoenaed. Even if he takes the Fifth Amendment which he has so far on the advice of his counsel if hes ultimately found certainly the family could be compelled to testify under service of process before a Grand Jury about what their son told them when he returned from being on this extended trip with gabby so they can be compelled to give up any information they have. He can take the Fifth Amendment. But certainly at this point it looks quite suspicious. Theres the motive because we see that the couple had been fighting. And theres an opportunity with proximity to gabby and nowen gauged in very, very suspicious behavior in disappearing in the midst of an investigation and a search for his fiancee and certainly high on a suspect list. But whether you can make out a case against him and whether hes even still alive we dont. Its quite a mystery on all sides in this case. Yeah. Just shows you this case issing on. Still a lot to learn. Thank you so much. Be sure to stay with cnn as the coverage continues. Up next, to boost or not to boost . The fda answered boost for some americans. What dr. Fauci says about this decision. And dr. Gupta walks you through what it means in the fight against covid. Also, youll meet a big guy with an even bigger heart whom i have always looked up to ever since i can remember. My whole life i have seen my brother be a champion for change. This house is really for you and your family. It is a gift. It is your new family. It was A House which they give me on christmas and i didnt realize it would be my house. So you can focus on what matters most. Whether its ensuring food arrives as fresh as when it departs. Being first on the scene, when every second counts. 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Is again nearing 2,000 covid19 per day. That is the highest Sevenday Average since early march. But the High Point set in the 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic, dr. Fauci says we can still avoid reaching 1 Million u. S. Deaths from coronavirus if eligible people will get vaccinated. Theres new confusion on boosters after a Fda Advisory Committee recommended they not be widely available. Only to those over 65 and at high risk. Dr. Fauci was asked if the fda made a mistake with that. I dont think they made a mistake but the one thing i think people need to realize that data are coming in on a daily and weekly basis. They will continue to look at this literally in realtime. More data will be coming in on both safety for younger evening, efficacy from israel, other countries, as well as substantial cohorts that the cdc is following so the story is not over yet. People need to understand that. Joining me with more cnns chief medical Correspondent Dr. Sanjay gupta. Sanjay, thank you for coming on the show on this sunday night. Of course. Lets talk about this. There doesnt seem to be a clear message on boosters. Messaging is so important for the public. The administration wanted to them available tomorrow. The Fda Committee put a pause on that idea. I know the cdc has yet to weigh in. What is your take on this . The take is the fda advisory Committee Sort of more strictly defined who they think would benefit from boosters and saying if you are healthy under 65 you probably dont need a booster because the good news is the vaccines are working really well. Across the board. But let me show you the concern. With regard to hospitalizations, we know that theres people in the hospital with covid. We know that 95 of those in the hospital with covid are unvaccinated. Thats the line at the top going up to the right. The flatter line at the bottom are Breakthrough Infections that end up in the hospital. About 5 of hospitalizations. So the question has been who are those people . Who are those people vaccinated but end up in the hospital . Thats where some of the data we have seen from the united States Base Chris saying people over 65. If you are hospitalized after vaccination with covid 87 of them who die over 65. 70 of the hospitalizations over 65 and drove i think their thinking on this. Who would benefit. The most likely to get sick. Dr. Fauci talks about data from other countries. We have been looking at israel a lot. Israel started vaccinating early, they have 65 of the small country vaccinated and boo boosting since august. The proportion of hospitalizations and deaths is much lower than earlier in the pandemic because of vaccines but if youre just going to look at the number of breakthrough cases and determine whether or not people should be boosted it doesnt seem to have made much of a difference in israel. It helps us understand why they landed on 65 and up because i think initially people said im 60. Why cant i be included . That helps us understand the decision. You have a special coming up tonight at 8 00 p. M. Eastern on the origins of the pandemic. A lot of people looking from the outside in saying theres the different possibilities. Why werent they explored or investi investigated thoroughly. Of course. We all have to agree on what happens for it to happen. Both foreign and chinese scientists were part of the w. H. O. Jefrt Team Members said they had to agree on the Con Tnts of the report. The head of the team w. H. O. Food Safety Specialist told tv2 the chinese counter parts didnt even want to include the Lab Leak Theory at all. [ speaking foreign language ] was a full elaboration of the lab meant to be part of the report . Translator we didnt have people on the mission experts. So it wasnt really their mandate to do. That was one of the most Eye Opening things i learned. This w. H. O. Report to look into the origins of the virus didnt even have Team Members to look into the potential of the Lab Leak Theory. They putt opinion the final report that it was unlikely but never really investigated it. Now they say theres a phase two to this investigation. China has to agree to it still and china is saying absolutely not and not letting the Lab Leak Investigation happen. So it is a really convoluted story and a true intersection of geopolitics and science coming to this. It is still so important to find out because you want to be able to prevent this from happening again. As you note china is not forthcoming with information on the topic. I look forward to watching this. Thank you so much. Thank you. Stay with cnn at the top of the next hour. The fascinating special the origins of covid19 at 8 00 p. M. Eastern. Following Breaking News out of wyoming. The fbi said it found a body believed to be that of Gabby Petito. 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Earlier today Human Remains were discovered consistent with the description of gabrielle Gabby Petito. Full identification has been Con Foirmed 100 that we found gabby but her family is notified. The cause of death has not been determined at this time. We have just learned that the autopsy is set to take place on tuesday. Meantime police in florida are saying now that The Search has ended for the night for Gabbys Fiancee Brian Laundrie. He was with her in the area her body was found and is considered A Person Of Interest by place. Unknown if thats changed given the development. Cnns Randi Kaye walks us through the unfolding tragedy. Hello, hello and good morning. It is really nice and sunny today. Reporter 22yearold Gabby Petito documenting the travels with her fiancee cross country. Never goes outside. But along the way the trip turned into something else. Just been fighting this morning. Some personal issues. Reporter police in moab, utah, released this video after someone called them August 12 to report disorderly conduct of gabby and Brian Laundrie. The Police Report noted the couple engaged in some sort of altercation. Gabby said she struggled with ocd. He wouldnt let me in the car before. Why . Because of your ocd. He told me i needed to calm down. But im perfectly calm. Reporter the Police Report descreened her as confused and manic. They suggested the couple separate for the night. Yes, they had a disturbance and captured on Body Camera and beyond that i dont know what it has to do with the disappearance. Reporter it began on July 2 when the couple set out from New York in gabbys converted white 2012 Ford Transit Van with florida plates. Their plan according to police to drive all the way to yellowstone National Park but they never made it. We have learned gabby reportedly last seen at this Salt Lake City hotel on august 24. That same day the Familys Attorney says she facetimed with her mom telling her she was leaving utah and heading to the Grand Tetons. Then gabby texted multiple times with her mom likely from the Grand Tetons then a final text but the family doubts she wrote it. And September 1 her fiancee showed up at the home they shared with his parents in florida in gabbys white van. Ten days later September 11th her family reported her missing. Two people went on a trip. One person returned. That Person Isnt providing any information. Reporter Cassy Laundrie said they had been known to fight. Typical of them both. Whenever they fight they take a break and come back and be fine. Reporter the fbi in denver joined The Search. Aiding fbi in and local authorities in Wyoming And Utah but as the hours and days tick by The Search for answers grows and doubts are beginning to creep in. My gut tells me that something bad happened. And i am never im never going to be able to hold my Baby Girl again. 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At the Ugs Border in texas right now the images and the numbers like you see on the screen, look at the people. Theyre staggering. Tonight there are more than 12,000 migrants under or next to a Bridge Waiting to be processed by the u. S. Border patrol and languishing in squalor there. A short time ago we learned that officials are racing to transfer migrants to go to haiti, thats in political shambles. Rights activists say President Biden is breaking the promise to grant political asylum than his predecessors. I want to bring in two guests. Alice, what do you think is going on here . Is the president Betraying Haitians trying to escape the poverty of their country . Ginn thats the reason to come to the border and a true case for seeking asylum, yes. He is betrayed them and the word also to democrats who voted for him saying that he was going to be a Beacon Of Hope for people trying to come into this country and also be more lenient and compassionate to immigrants coming into this country so it is a Campaign Promise broken to a lot of people across the Border And Cant look at the images and not be heart broken by the people waiting to get into this country. Every case is different. Might be different reasons for certain people being there but for those with an honest and legitimate case for asylum should be brought in as the president said. I want your reaction to that but first the sound from the Homeland Security Secretary who spoke to Jim Acosta earlier today asking about whether this is a humanitarian crisis. We certainly are experiencing a challenging situation but we are surging resources and we have a multiprong approach to this. He would not concede that this is a humanitarian crisis. Is this another bungled message from the administration . I would like to think what they think is a humanitarian crisis if this isnt. I dont know that we have ever in my adult lifetime had a president democrat or republican particularly good with dealing with the issues. We have a broken immigration system. Not enough judges. There isnt enough resources to handle whats happening at the border. We are a huge country with a lot of Space And Money so the idea that we cannot help these people is absolutely ludicrous. I agree with alice. Most people can look at this and say these people are desperate and that they need to be treated as desperate people and not sent back to the place they fled. It is completely inhumane and the democratic party has not been great on immigration and dealing with these kinds of crisis and now would be a perfect time to change that. It is important that we have Border Security and safe and secure borders but that being said if this is a humanitarian crisis and it clearly is then its important for anyone who ran lets remember haiti went through an earth quack. Of course. The president assassinated. Its been in a bad situation for a long time and gotten worse in the last month. Anybody who is seeking Refugee Status in the united states has a right to go before a judge and determine whether or not they are a refugee. So they havent done anything illegal. It is legal to come boo the country and to seek Refugee Status so the problem is we dont have enough judges and people to process the people coming in and republicans did block Immigration Reform in the past which wouldnt necessarily help in that case but it would help processing other people coming through and for the people already here. Given everything at the border it brings attention to texas and beto orourke. He was ourselfed by Ted Cruz in 2018. Created buzz to run for governor. What do you think . How viable is he as a democrat to run against abbott . Given the names in texas i think he is the most profile, most visible and can raise money and i believe given all thats going on there the democratic party in washington, d. C. Will help him raise money and be supportive of him. That being said, look, he almost beat Ted Cruz. Yep. But right now it is interesting to see with a statistical figtive campaign against him and Governor Abbott behind only 5 points and something to consider. He is a good candidate and three things against him. One being the border. The crisis at the border. Abortion which is huge legislation going on in tbexas and covid. If theyre not any better come election time it is not good for a democrat. What do you think . Thats fascinating to me. I think they work to him advantage. The governor is taking extreme positions out of the mainstream if you take the Abortion Law out of the mainstream for prolife people and i think created an opening for beto come in here trying to fight over here and challengers on the right flank and just created an opportunity for him and he has ptd done a great job with coronavirus either so i think that almost beat Ted Cruz, he is obviously run in the state before, has experience and he could be a strong contender. Something hanging over that race and 2022, 2024, the Big Lie more and more people believe it. President trump, former President Trump endorsed three Big Lie promoters overseeing elections in 2024 when he could be run for office. Experts are alarmed by this. Why arent we seeing more republican leaders to speak out . Election officials are alarmed and traditional republicans are disgusted by it. The election was free and fair. Donald trump lost. Joe biden won. I think it is important that people understand that these elections were free and fair when Donald Trump won in 2016 and the same in 2020. The problem that republicans and those that support the Big Lie have if they want to continue to litigate what happened in 2020, thats going to be a losing formula. We need to focus on the future and the policies that unite us moving forward. And if they dont do that its not going to be good in the midterms. What about theres the issue of looking to the future rather than the past and hurting confidence with the american people and this countrys Election System and democracy . Theres a poll recently that showed that its become part of the identity of trump supporters and republicans who are trump supporters that they dont believe the election is fair and critical to the Identity And Sort of a test of how much you support trump so yes it is completely undermined Peoples Trust in the system which is the point. Thats why Donald Trump does this. We watched him do it for four years. All he does is convince people they Cant Trust the system and can only trust him. Thank you for that very civil discussion and it was important and i think covered a lot of ground. Simple Facebook Post changed the life of a man and a family he never met. My champion for change is next. Your eyes. Beautiful on the outside, but if you have diabetes, there can be some notsopretty stuff going on, on the inside. Its true, if you have diabetes, you know high Blood Sugar is the root of the problem. But that excess sugar can cause the Blood Vessels to be seriously damaged. And when that happens, this could happen, Vision Loss or even blindness. Thats right, Diabetic Retinopathy is a leading cause of blindness for adults in the u. S. But even though you cant see it, there is something you can do about it. Remember this now is the time to get your eyes checked. Eye care is an incredibly important part of your longterm diabetes management. 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He gave christmas presents to an Immigrant Family in need and that one positive act led to a Community Rallying around and helping the family. Today the mom and her three children are thriving after a difficult start in america. Lincoln and will have forged a bond that changed both of their lyes. For the rest of their lives. Christmas 20818 i was looking to give back. I had posted on facebook for the first time in years saying if you know a family that needs Help Or Anyone let me know. The teacher said theres a family in bad shape. They need help and can you bring us some presents . First time i met will he moved here from tanzania. His mom has a daughter and theres no Day Care or child care. What is she supposed to do . Will has to stay home to take care of his sister. So sweet and kind. Left an im inprint on my heart. We walked away and he felt like that wasnt right. There needs to be more done and by getting friends on facebook to pitch in, suddenly this family that had so little felt so displaced had this Community Rallying around them. Lets go. About 52 people have contributed and been part of his life. Some really small and some really big ways. Its really a group effort. I need you to take in your sister. Lets go play soccer. They were total strangers. With the fund came tutoring so will could learn english. Remember that hard word. Zaney. So many friends and lincoln took a simple step of reaching out to others. One positive act can lead to another positive act. Its not just my brother, its the community and shows the power of collective support. The momentum kept building. Lincoln and the community decided to remenovate A House. Will pitched in to what he thought was another family in need. I was working as hard as i c can. He would have got his hands dirty and learned how to trade. This house is for you. It was really the group came together and pitched in. Everyone seen my brother be a champion. He never wanted to do things the conventional way and hes always had a big heart and always wanted to serve others. Sometimes you just need someone to believe in you in life to give you a chance to get you going until your life picks up. Then youre good. I cant wait to see where will is ten years from now not because ill push him too hard but Hell Work harder than anybody else and give it everything hes got. I think sometimes we stay in our little Cocoon And Community and what feels safe and right, but family comes in all different shapes and sizes. It doesnt just need to be a blood relative. Come on, will. I learned i love to help people. I learned white, black, you have to help them. Its like a family. Its like a brother, a father and a best friend. And will is like family to us. He really is part of the family. No doubt well be profiling in him as a champion of change in years to come and im so glad my brother agreed to this. Hes not one to seek the spotlight but i said ill do the story With Or Without You so glad he agreed. Well continue to share these inspirational stories all this week and be sure to tune in next Saturday Night at 8 00 p. M. Eastern for the champions for Change Onehour special. And before we leave you, talk about taking social distancing to extremes. This story is crazy. Look at this. This is a man. 2,000 foot Flat Line that is kind of like a bending tight rope stretching from the Eiffel Tower akrolsz The River and its more than 230 feet off the ground. Well, that dare Ddevils Name i nathan and he says Slack Lining has brought him quote true inner peace. Thank you for watching. See you again next weekend. Have a great workweek. 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