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We were wrong. The family of a young man who is a Person Of Interest in his missing girlfriend is missing himself. All i want is for her to come home Safe And Sound and for this to be a big misunderstanding. Im Pamela Brown in washington on this saturday. You are in the cnn newsroom. Its great to have you along with us on this busy saturday. We want to begin with Breaking News from outer space. The worlds first allcivilian Space Flight is making its way home right now, as we speak, splashdown for the Inspiration 4 mission is about an hour away. These are not the kinds of resumes you would normally see for a space crew. A Community College teacher, physicians assistant, Aerospace Employee who won his seat in a raffle, and a Billionaire Ceo who put up his own money to make all of this happen with the help of spacex. All of them are or biorbiting T Earth after blasting off Wednesday Night without a professional astronaut on board. Lets go straight to Cnns Kristin Fisher at cape canaveral, florida. Take us through whats coming. Reporter pam, were about to witness a very jarring event for the amateur astronauts on board. The first astronauts who did this described it as feeling as if they were inside an animal. They said every Separation Event felt as though they were getting whacked in the back of a chair with a baseball bat. Keep in mind these are professional Nasa Astronauts, those were military Test Pilots who had been training their entire lives for this. Now, compare that to this crew, the Inspiration 4 crew. They had no idea that they were going to be in space until just a few months ago. So this is all going to start in about ten minutes. The first thing thats going to happen is the unpressurized trunk of the spacecraft is going to jettison away from the Dragon Capsule. Then the big D Orbit burn is going to bin. And once those thrusters fire, there is no turning back. Then the Nose Cone is going to close, protecting the Dragon Capsule from the extremely high temperatures that it is going to experience on reentry. And were talking temperatures of up to 3,500 degrees fahrenheit. Thats going to cause this fiery plasma to engulf the Dragon Spacecraft as it makes its way back down to earth. And it will also cause a sixminutelong communication blackout. So No One on the ground will be able to communicate with the crew for six minutes. Then the first thing well really be able to see are those smaller parachutes deploying, then the four main parachutes which will slow the capsule down to 15 or 16 miles per hour before splashing down just off the coast of florida around 7 06 p. M. Eastern time. At that point the Inspiration 4 crew should be safely back on earth after the adventure of a lifetime. Three, two, one, ignition. Reporter commander Jared Isaacman and the crew of Inspiration 4 giving the world a glimpse into their historic Threeday Trip into space. Haley arsenau explaining how it felt to be on the flight. Its really interesting to see how it shifts with the environment. Reporter a Poet And Painter showing off some of the art shes made while weightless. My art being carried by a dragon off of earth. Reporter and an engineer and musician, playing the ukelele. Its a journey less than 600 humans have ever experienced. But the crew of Inspiration 4 has a way of making it feel almost ordinary, as if anyone could do it. And thats precisely the point. Few have come before and many are about to follow. The door is opening now. Its pretty incredible. We can see the entire parameter of the earth which is so beautiful. Reporter opening up Space Travel to the masses and making it more affordable with the invention of reusable rockets. Its been elon Musks Goal ever since he founded spacex nearly 20 years ago. And now for the first time, nasa had little to do with a crude launch from the Kennedy Space Center. We dont have a very big role here. This is spacexs show and were happy for them. Reporter its a milestone years in the making as the governments decadeslong monopoly on sending humans into orbit ends. Isaacman, Founder And Ceo of shift 4 payments, funded the entire trip and put up the first half of 200 Million which hes hoping to raise for st. Jude childrens hospital. Were giving up all our time here for Science Research and some ukelele playing and trying to raise awareness for an important cause back on earth. Looks like a smooth ride for the crew. Reporter after splashdown, the very first thing well see are two fast boats racing up to make sure the crew and the capsule are safe. Then the main Recovery Ship will arrive. That will take 30 minutes. Once there, theyll pull the capsule out of the water and only then open the hatch and get the astronauts out. Theyll be flown back to Kennedy Space Center and the capsule will be eventually be brought back to Port Canaveral in cape canaveral. One thing, pam. Something like this, a splashdown, its not uncommon for astronauts to get quite sea sick. Spacex says they have contingencies in place, they have the appropriate hardware, as they call it, and by appropriate hardware, they mean Vomit Bags like you would see on an airplane, pam. Just call it like it is, Vomit Bags. Kristin, youre enthusiasm is palpable, i cant wait for this. Well check back with you as we near splashdown. Thank you so much. Fo a former Nasa Astronaut will join us to talk about how this mission is like none before. What if far right Trump Supporters threw a big party and No One came . It would probably look a lot like this, a few hundred people gathered this afternoon for the justice for J6 Rally. The goal, support the insurrectionists charged in the deadly January 6 capitol riot. Large numbers of Police Officers and news people largely outnumbered the number of reporters seen in the video. The event ended after a couple of hours mostly without incident. The goal remains, downplay the horrors of the January 6 attack on the capitol. A reminder, five deaths are directly tied to it. And about 140 Police Officers were injured during the siege. At least four officers who were there that day have since died by suicide. Some of their Loved Ones say the overwhelming scale of violence, hatred, and powerlessness has haunted them. One protester today, when shown some of the violent clashes, suggested the police were to blame. So you dont think what theyre doing here is an assault . They could easily back up. Thats a police officer. They could easily back up. Reporter so its the Officers Fault . No, yeah, this is not assault. Among those who protected the u. S. Capitol from the mob Of Insurrectionists on January 6, Capitol Police officers brian sicknick. He was rushed to the hospital that night in critical condition and died the next day. The coroner said he had suffered two strokes directly related to the events of that horrible day. And Sandra Garza was brian sicknicks long time partner, she joins me now. Sandra, thank you for making time for us. I imagine its just so difficult for you to hear what that young man just said in that video, see what played out today. I imagine all the pain youve been feeling is magnified by this, this blatant and partisan effort to minimize what happened, minimize what happened to your partner. Maybe no example more glaring than this statement on thursday from former president trump, supporting the insurrectionists charged in the deadly attack. Quote, our hearts and minds are with the people being persecuted so unfairly relating to the January 6 protest concerning the rigged president ial election, and then in caps, quote, justice will prevail. What is your reaction . When i heard that, i was enraged. I was enraged. He knows that thats an outright lie, that the election was not rigged, Thats Number one. He is asking for violence again by doing that. And to say that these people that stormed the capitol are persecuted is absolutely ridiculous. Those people made a choice to be there. Some of those people made a choice to engage in sadistic Violence And Hurt officers brutally. So much so that some of these officers are going to be impacted for the rest of their lives with traumatic brain injuries, you know, severe other physical injuries. And theres a Ripple Effect with that. It impacts the families, their children. And then of course the officers that, you know, felt such desperation to take their lives. I mean, you know, and then for him to say that his heart or our hearts and minds are with these people, this violent mob, is just despicable. Its despicable. Where was his Heart And Mind when my partner, brian sicknick, was dead . I still have not heard from trump. I still have not gotten a letter. And i had said that i would be willing to meet with him, which my offer still stands, because i want answers. The Sicknick Family deserves answers. I said he was too chicken. I still stand by that. He wanted to say that officer beganel, officer hodges, over Fanone And Officer dunn were, and i wont even use the vulgar word that he used, but they were, you know, wusses for showing true human emotion, recounting the horror they experienced that day. As far as im concerned trump is the biggest wuss there is because he cannot face me, he cannot face the Sicknick Family, he cannot face those officers, and he cannot face any of the officers families that took their lives because of the tragedy of that day, that he is responsible for inciting. And to be clear, you were a Trump Supporter. Yes, i was. As was brian. Yes. We brian was and i was and thats what makes it even more disgusting. You just feel betrayed . I do, yes. I feel very betrayed by the majority of the Republican Party. As a matter of fact, i still continue to get mail from the republican national committee addressed to brian, saying please dont abandon us, we still want your support. I mean, its incredible. Yet they completely abandoned him. And a lot of them wouldnt meet with me when i went up to Capitol Hill that day to ask for their support for the January 6 commission. Im curious, clearly you put a lot of blame on former president trump. Yes. But then you hear what we just heard from that protester that was out there today, i should say demonstrator, talking to the cameras, downplaying what officers were going through, almost putting the blame on these officers. I wonder, when you look at that, where does your where is your anger directed . Is it directed at the leadership, these highup positions who arent speaking out, like donald trump, or is it the people who were actually taking the bait, who were actually buying this . Or is it both . How do you feel . I mean, i would say the majority of my anger is at the leadership, because they are the ones with the world microphone. They have a lot of power. They could stop a lot of this. They could educate the public on the facts and theyre refusing to do that. However, i still hold the people, these demonstrators, the people that were there at the capitol on January 6, that day, i hold them responsible, because they were aware enough of what they were doing to hide after the fact when they knew that the fbi was looking for them. So ive heard a lot of them say, oh, well, i was caught up in the moment, you know, or i was doing what the president asked me to do. Well, you know what, they werent that caught up in the moment, because they knew enough to hide from the fbi and local Law Enforcement when, you know, the day was over with. So i dont want to hear any of it. So i do hold them responsible, yes. Before we go, quickly, you are a licensed clinical social worker. You have said you and brian bonded over the shared value of helping people. Yes. Do you feel like that is becoming a lost value in todays hateful political divisions . Its certainly very depressing, yes. Its very depressing. I certainly will not stop helping people. I mean, i love my profession. I love being a social worker. Thats what i feel like i was born to do. But at the same time, as a licensed clinical social worker, my studies, my career, im also taught that were also personally responsible for our actions. And so, you know, but yes, absolutely. I want to help as many people as i can. That will never die. And i also want to keep Brians Legacy alive. And i can do that by helping others and continuing to do what he loved to do in this way. And you are certainly doing that, sandra, coming on the show, talking about him, his story, conveying what he would want people to know so well. Sandra, thank you so much, youre welcome back any time. Thank you so much, pam. 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Drone strike killed ten civilians in kabul, the cia issued an urgent warning that children might be in the target vehicle. But it was too late. I want to point out dod has addressed this. But the White House is still silent since this news came out. Cnns Katie Boltlillis covers National Security issues. Katie, this is just awful. As a Pentagon Official said, a horrible mistake. How did this happen . You know, pam, i think one of the things that this sort of tragic missed message really underscores is the sense of urgency that the military felt that it was operating under when it carried out this strike. They had just lost 13 u. S. Service members, they believed there was an attack forthcoming, a threat to American Forces on the ground, which is something the military takes very seriously. Clearly commanders in charge of this strike felt that they couldnt wait, essentially, to take this shot in order to determine, number one, definetively whether or not there were civilians on the Ground And Number two, even with certainty who the target was, which obviously they turned out to be tragically wrong about that. You know, the other thing that i think is important to understand here is, when the military doesnt have boots on the ground, when they dont have a great human Intelligence Network or an ability to intercept Signals Communications or sort of other kind of pieces of intelligence that help them definitively say, okay, this is our target for a counterterrorism strike, theyre left trying to piece together overhead images of a car of interest or a Person Of Interest as they kind of move around their sort of daily routine. Its what the Military Calls creating a pattern of life. And then they have to determine whether or not theyre going to take a strike based on just sort of those piecedtogether clues. Thats clearly what they chose to do here. And we see the risk of that. Just looking at those pictures of the children, its awful. Katie bo, thank you so much. The rally to show support to the January 6 insurrectionists fizzled out fast. But president bidens Big Lie is showing no signs of slowing. Ill trump to john bolton, trump hes former national Security Adviser, about the damage trumps Big Lie is doing to democracy. Like fading, stretching, and pilling. New woolite has evercare, a first of its Kind Formula that keeps todays fabrics looking like new. New woolite with evercare at carvana, we treat every customer like we would treat our own moms, with care and respect. To us, the little things are the big things. Which is why we do everything in our power to make buying a car an unforgettable experience. Happy birthday. Thank you. 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New Cnn Polling conducted just within the past month finds that 78 of republicans still think president biden did not win the election. And 54 believe there is strong evidence he lost. Of course there is no such evidence. How many times have we had to say that on this show . But nonetheless, this is what the polls are saying. Joining me now, a former u. S. National Security Adviser under President Donald Trump and former u. N. Ambassador john bolton, also the author of the room where it happened. Ambassador, thanks for joining us again. Youre seeing the Big Lie is already tainting the electoral process for the upcoming midterms and the 2024 president ial election. If so many People Mistrust the results of an election, how do we preserve this Democratic Republic . Well, i think it is important to have people have confidence in elections. And i must say, the polling ive done asking people, particularly republicans and republican voting independents, do you think your vote will be fairly counted in the next election, overwhelming majority say yes. So i think as time goes by, theres a process under way by which people adopt an understanding that in Fact Trump lost in 2020. Theres still a lot of people that dont believe it, i acknowledge that. I think its the responsibility especially of republicans to clean that up. But i also think its very important for faith in democracy not to exaggerate the extent to which people still believe in the Big Lie. But, i mean, just to be clear, this is a Cnn Poll with certain standards we utilize in order for us to get an accurate measurement of where the public is. And that is what republicans are saying, 78 . Thats not an exaggeration. Thats a hard number. 78 say biden lost. No, look, that is inconsistent with many, many other polls. I would like to see the question, i would like to see the data underlying it. In my polls, for what its worth, we make all the data public, so perhaps we can have a look at yours too. Its available on cnn. Com so i encourage you to take a look at that. Thats consistent, that polling were seeing the numbers consistently go up. But imaging want to ask you, not only have trump and some other republicans downplayed the insurrection, theyve begun to regard the rioters as heroes. That includes ongoing efforts to cast ashli babbitt, the Woman Shot and killed by police, as a martyr. Lets take a listen. Who is the person that shot an innocent, wonderful, incredible woman . If this country can demand justice for someone like george floyd, then we can certainly demand justice for ashli babbitt. The only person that got killed that day was a Trump Supporter and her name was ashli babbitt. And she was murdered. The officer that shot her told nbc that he saved countless lives by his actions. Ambassador, why are some republicans creating heroes out of people who broke the law in attacking Police Officers . What happened to the back the blue and the Law And Order party . I think these are people who have fundamentally lost faith in the basic principles of the party itself, starring with donald trump. I think anybody who went into the Capitol Building that day was in violation of the law. And i hope they do get justice. I hope they get fully prosecuted and serving the appropriate sentences. And its important, its a continuing process to explain that these people were law violators, not peaceful protesters. Its very discouraging, i acknowledge that. Again, i dont think we should get hysterical about it. I think you have to keep it in perspective and keep doing the hard work of telling people what the truth is. You mention basic principles in the Republican Party. Are those basic principles even still alive in the Republican Party right now . Of course they are. Look whats the proof of that . Donald trump is an aberration. He doesnt have principles or philosophy. But hes the leader of the party right now. Hes the hes not the leader of the party from my perspective nor from the perspective of many people. And i think frankly, one of the damaging things he does to the Republican Party by his continued presence is give opponents of the conservative philosophy the opportunity to anathematize the entire party for what he says. For that reason, look, the struggle goes on, but im increasingly optimistic that what republicans really are looking for is the chance to implement their policies through the 2022 elections. I dont think what gives you the optimism im sorry, i dont mean to interrupt. Because i talk to republicans all over the country. And i think theres a distorted picture of what trumps influence is. I think in fact my polls show that his influence is declining Day By Day By day. Nobody should be surprised at that. Hes gone from sitting in the most powerful office in the world to sitting by the Swimming Pool at marbalago. Voters of all stripes, when they look at elections, want to know what politicians are going to propose to address the problems they see in front of them. And interest in relitigating the 2020 election is diminishing. And i dont think its going to rise again. But youre seeing republicans like Congressman Gonzalez who has been outspoken against trump, congressman of ohio, saying hes not going to run for reelection. Its the Members Of Congress who Support Trump who are kowtowing to trump, that are succeeding right now in the Republican Party. Do you disagree with that . Well, i dont i do disagree with it. Name a senator who is kowtowing to donald trump. Just look at the vote for impeachment. Well, look, there are a lot of arguments on impeachment. I was against the second impeachment because i dont think the Constitution Permits Either the trial either the impeachment or the trial of impeachment after an incumbent has left office. That for me would have been enough to vote against impeachment. This is a complicated issue, and reducing it to Bumper Stickers may make some people happy but it doesnt advance the cause of intelligent debate in our democracy. You talked about earlier, saying we have to continue to get the facts out there. Thats something were committed to on this show. But what do you think of fox, what role does Fox Play and other right wing media play in spreading the Big Lie that the election was stolen, the disinformation on vaccines that Talking Heads have been pushing for months . Let me just take the Vaccine Thing for a minute. Ive been vaccinated, i have two shots, i plan to get a booster, i think everybody should get vaccinated. I dont particularly have difficulty with vaccine mandates. I think it needs to be explained to the people. But before covid, the main pressure for antivaccine lobbying came from the left in this country. So, you know, if you want to talk about people who are concerned about the vaccinations, Theres Plenty of blame to go around. On the Covid Vaccine, there is clear evidence that the misinformation for the most part is coming from right wing media. So just talking about the Covid Vaccine there. But really quick, before we let you go, you have voiced support for general mark milley, in reaching out to reassure china in the waning days of the trump administration. This came out in the new book by Bob Costa and woodward. Did you ever reach a point, i wonder, when you were in the White House, where you felt like you needed to take drastic actions because you were so concerned . Well, no, i didnt take drastic action. I finally resigned. I dont Think Milley took drastic actions here. There are some people who say he violated the principle of civilian control of the military, he broke military discipline, he undercut the commander in chief. I dont think thats what his actions show at all. Other people take exactly the same actions and say he saved the country from donald trump. And thats not true either. He did what he needed to do, he took appropriate action under very trying circumstances. And thats exactly what you would expect he did, he did his duty, nothing more, nothing less. Did you ever keep the president out of Decisionmaking Processes that you would otherwise normally include the president in . No. No. I think he was, uh, he was as involved as he wanted to be. Thats the definition of being president. All right. Ambassador john bolton, thank you for coming on the show, and taking some time out on this saturday evening. And go check out that Cnn Poll and all the standards behind how we came up with those numbers. I would love to see the underlying data. 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Pamela, i think its a reasonable starting point, because at some point we probably will all be needing boosters. But its reasonable to start with those who are at the highest risk for severe consequences from covid19 or people who have high Risk Exposures, so those would be individuals who are older, the committee chose 65, i think they could have also chosen 60 and older. Very importantly, they also included people with high risk. What i hope happens now is that the cdc committee, they have to vote on this later this week, i hope they dont make this too restrictive. There will be individuals who are younger but have high Risk Exposure at work or have high risk medical conditions that make them at greater risk for severe consequences. I hope those individuals are at least allowed to be getting a third Booster Dose at this time. Right. I think people are going to want to know what does high risk mean, what is the definition of that. We want to point out, this was for the pfizer vaccine. What about boosters for Moderna Or Johnson johnson . Should they get a Pfizer Shot as a booster or wait . What should they do . People who got the two doses of moderna vaccine, if they are severely immunocompromised, they can already go out and get a third dose right now. Moderna has also submitted for authorization by the fda, so were talking a matter of a few weeks for people who got moderna to probably get the same consequence as with pfizer. I would be really surprised if the fda doesnt decide exactly the same for moderna as with pfizer. J J Lot of attention after tweeting that she wasnt vaccinated and that her Cousins Friend became impotent after getting the shot. Minaj has a lot of twitter followers and her comments seem to be fueling this myth that twitter vaccines fuel infertility. How much harm does this do to doctors like yourself, trying to give people factual information that could save their lives . I first want to say that there is absolutely no evidence linking the Covid Vaccines and fertility for men or for women. It is just not truth. Its the myth that has started and unfortunately has perpetuated, and i think its important for us to debunk this myth, but it is really concerning. Because unfortunately, there are very influential figures, including celebrities who have a substantial following, who will listen to what they say and who might use this as further justification for why they have not been vaccinated. In the meantime, this is going on. You have the covid Surge Hitting parts of the country really hard. Lets just tick through some examples here. You have idaho is so overrun with patients, with cases, it is now allowing its hospitals statewide to ration care. Theres an Alabama Man having a cardiac emergency, dying after being turned away from 43 hospitals that were just too full with covid cases. And then from florida, you have this example of a father telling our Erin Burnett that his 12yearold Sons Appendix Burst while waiting more than six hours to be seen. Before covid, would you have ever expected to hear these kind of stories coming from this country . It did happen in this country, and did happen before, but in very specific types of timelimited emergencies. For example, if theres a Hurricane Striking one area, then maybe that area is overwhelmed for a matter of days or weeks. But whats happening is that were seeing this sustained emergency across our country thats lasted now for more than a year and a half. And there are not only people with covid who are being impacted, but also patients with other medical conditions. Ssurg postponed, and theyre people with cancer or cardiac issues who have not had their emergencies addressed because of covid. So i think people need to recognize those who remain unvaccinated are Setting Back Progress and are literally harming the Health And Wellbeing of everyone else in this country. Its a very important message. Dr. Alina went, thank you for bringing us the truth. Up next, a Nailbiting Reentry for an allcivilian Space Flight, as an historic Space Mission returns to earth. Live coverage coming up. You are in the cnn newsroom. I earn all this cash back . Oh, i gotta tell everyone. Hey rita, you can earn 3 on dining, including takeout bon appetit. Hey kim, you earn 5 on travel purchased through chase way ahead of you. Hey neal, you can earn 3 at drug stores buddy, im right here. Why are you yelling . Because thats what i do youre always earning with 5 cash back on travel purchased through chase, 3 at drugstores, 3 on dining including takeout, and 1. 5 on everything else you buy. Chase. Make more of whats yours. Im steven, im 52, and im a makeup artist. I met my husband in 2002. 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In the meantime, talk about history, the Delta Variant is showing no sign of slowing down across the globe. And as this pandemic presses on, one Big Question remains. Where did this virus come from. How . Cnn chief medical correspondent, dr. Sanjay gupta interviewed scientists from all over the world, trying to piece together clues to get us closer to an answer. I tallied up the page numbers. The total, annex and main report for the laboratory was about four pages out of 313. And in those four pages, the title of the section was, conspiracy theories. You know, theres a lot of smoke here. No definitive flame, but database goes down. No sharing of samples of these potential Lab Workers who got sickened. No forensic analysis of the lab. It starts to sound like there wasnt a really definitive investigation of the Lab Leak theory. Well, i think thats right. Theres not been a definitive investigation of the Lab Leak theory. Will there be . Well, i think that it needs to follow the evidence. If theres definitive evidence of a Lab Leak, then that needs to be investigated. There is none yet. But part of the reason theres none is because information is not being shared. Right. If we want to see information shared from china about what went on in the lab, we need Phase Ii to begin very rapidly. Now, pamela, to be clear, the chinese government has rejected any kind of Phase Ii of this w. H. O study. Just rejected it. They are vehemently denying the possibility that this virus leaked from a lab. In fact, theyre even pointing to other labs now around the world, pamela. They pointed to ft. Detrick in maryland and encouraged w. H. O to go investigate there, as possible origin of covid. To be clear, theres absolutely no evidence to suggest thats the case, but you get an idea of how challenging this entire investigation has been. Until they can collect the data, the evidence, its very hard to do a sciencebased report, study, or investigation. And thats sort of where things stand now. We uncovered a lot in terms of what is happening in china, what has happened here in terms of the investigation and we hope to bring it all to you tomorrow night. Pamela . Were looking pardon to that. Sanjay gupta, thanks so much. And be sure to stay with us. We are just moments away from a Spacex Splashdown with an allcivilian crew onboard. The first ever to reach earths orbit. Pardon when i shine hands to the sky, all mine woah, woah no Ceiling Woah woah good feeling woah woah i might send it up its a simple Fact Nothing kills more germs on more surfaces than lysol spray. Its a simple fact it even kills the covid19 virus. Science supports these simple facts. Theres only one true lysol. Lysol. What it takes to protect. What happens when we Welcome Change . We can transform our workforce overnight out of convenience, or necessity. We can explore uncharted waters, and not only make new discoveries, but get there faster, with better outcomes. 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