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Now, one reason according to the National Institutes Of Health that the advisory Committee Hearing will be public, thats going to happen tomorrow, so everyone can actually hear and see whats going on, hear the data. Three reports in the new England Journal of Medicine Support the argument that people may need a booster over time. But a new article in another journal, the lancet, says current evidence does not support the need for a third shot at this time. That piece was written by a group of Vaccine Experts including some from the fda and the world health organization. Now, of course this hearing happens as President Bush fights republican governors over his push for businesses to require vaccines, something he discussed today. Were facing a lot of pushback, especially from some of the republican governors. The governors of florida and texas are doing everything they can to undermine the legislative requirements that ive proposed. And Phil Mattingly joins us now from the White House. Phil, the administrations got to be feeling a lot of pressure ahead of Tomorrows Fda Meeting given the president very publicly said he hoped Booster Dose Rollout would begin on monday. Yeah, look, i think theres a recognition inside the administration that the president laid out a timeline and the things theyve seen in the weeks since that timeline was laid out has raised questions about whether that timeline would actually stand. They will be intently focused on the Fda Meeting tomorrow. They will also be focused on the Cdc Advisory Meeting thats scheduled for next week. That will determine more than anything else and in fact instead of anything else whether or not boosters will actually occur. Thats been something youve heard a lot from White House officials, that even when a timeline was laid out, even when the president spoke on that timeline, he always caveated with the fact it was up to the fda and the cdc for that timeline to actually come into place. Now, its interesting. You talk to White House officials, theyre frustrated that a lot of the political and turf battles, interagency wars have spilled out into the public, that perhaps this has muddled the general understanding about the necessity of boosters. What they arent is regretful about laying out the timeline. They believe the data theyve laid out can include boosters are need at some point and they wanted to make sure they can operationalize that actual process whenever those approvals came. This has obviously been complicated over the course of the last couple of weeks. But officials maintain theyre glad they laid out that process because they believe boosters will be necessary at one point or another, possibly as soon as next week. So this is not something i ever really envisioned asking you or really anyone in regards to fighting the pandemic, but what is going on with the white House And Nicki minaj About Covid . Yeah, look, anderson, i didnt ever envision myself on your show talking about Nicki Minajs cousins friends swollen nether regions. But you know, here we are. Heres whats interesting. This is actually a good window into how the White House has tried to address these issues. This one specifically over the course of the last several months. Nicki minaj tweeted something that alleged some Side Effect to a vaccine that every medical professional that weve spoken to, that the White House says theyve spoken to simply does not back up. It was factually inaccurate. It was not true. The White House, in the wake of that tweet, reached out at a Staff Level to Nicki Minajs staff and offered a conversation by phone with a doctor. Nicki minaj then feeted that shed been invited to the White House and planned to come. That never happened. The conversation with the doctor, though, is interesting because what you havent seen from the White House is an attempt to dunk on Nicki Minaj or attack Nicki Minaj. Theyve done the exact opposite. Instead they wanted to make clear that theres a lot of confusion out there, there are a lot of concerns out there. You see it in the hesitancy. You see it in those who refuse to get vaccinated and they wanted to address that fact. When somebody has 22. 7 million twitter followers and is tweeting these things out, the White House wants to see if they can address that with facts and then perhaps resolve or reconcile the very clear differences. One thing is clear, there is no meeting coming anytime soon, at least according to White House officials, with Nicki Minaj. And also the alleged Side Effects, theres no basis for them whatsoever in case you were wo wondering anderson. It would be great if anybody who has that big of a following would be willing to listen to a doctor and, you know, look at facts and do research which she said or somebody recently said they wanted to do more research. Im all for research and data and facts. So lets hope she takes them up on the offer. Phil mattingly, appreciate it. Thanks. Perspective from our chief medical Correspondent Dr. Sanjay gupta, also author of the forthcoming Book World War c lessons from the Covid Pandemic and how to prepare for the next one. Also cnn medical analyst leana wen, author of lifelines a Doctors Journey in the fight pour public health. Sanjay, can you talk v walk us through what the fda is taking into consideration during Tomorrows Meeting . What factors are they looking at when they make the decision . Because youve got three studies in the new England Journal of medicine, then youve got this other one in the lance evident. Youve got the w. H. O. Not being for boosters but obviously they also want vaccines to go to a lot of countries around the world that are in desperate need of them and dont even have one shot or two shots yet before even thinking about a booster. Yeah. I mean, i think the Equity Issue is a big issue. But even aside from that just looking at the data is what theyre going to really be doing at the advisory Committee Meeting to try and figure out really the answers to four major questions. And i sort of laid them out here. Theres going to be a lot of things that theyre going to sort of want to address, but the four major questions, how much is immunity really waning . We talked about this a bit yesterday, and there are some studies that suggest it wanes but maybe not in a linear way. Pfizer had a study saying the effectiveness wanes about 6 every two months of their vaccine but is still very, very steady, 96 and 97 protection for severe illness. How severe are the Breakthrough Infections . Thats a big one. Breakthrough infection can be somebody who has no symptoms, that are surprised that their test comes back positive, to all the way people who have severe infections. So what kind of severity are we talking about . And does it break down by age . Theres some data out of israel saying people who are older, 65 and older, may be having some degradation of the efficacy of the vaccine, more so than younger people. How long does the Booster Effect last . Thats a big one. Are we basically just fortifying the wall really strong for a period of time and then its going to wane regardless . Thats going to be something i think the committees going to sort of look at. And then finally, how much do they really reduce transmission . You know, were talking about breakthrough cases. Is that really the right metric to be measuring in terms of deciding whether or not to boost . And the answer to that last question will help dictate that. So dr. Wen, it was just about a month ago when top health officials from the biden administration laid out the September 20th booster plan. They said they did it in part so that Health Departments could plan in advance. But since the confusion since then, im not sure whats going on with the Health Departments. As the former baltimore Health Commissioner can you talk about how much more challenging planning for boosters has become for local jurisdictions . Well, its definitely challenging, especially with mixed messaging and the confusion that you mentioned going on, anderson. But i actually think it would have been worse if the White House didnt lay out some type of expectation earlier. Because weve already had israel, uk, Germany Distributing Booster shots for months. Imagine the outcry if there really had been no plan up to this point even with accumulating evidence that at least some of the evidence suggesting that Booster Shots are necessary. Also, we have some states like here in maryland that are actually ahead of the fda. In maryland we are allowing individuals 65 and older who are in Nursing Homes and other congregate living facilities to actually get booster doses even now. So what i hope the fda will really lay out tomorrow, one is i hope theyll say yes, its true that we should get the unvaccinated vaccinated first but that dunce mean that those who are vaccinated should not be getting booster if that increases their protection. And second, i think theres a difference between saying that were allowing for boosters versus recommending boosters. As in maybe they could say were recommending boosters for people 60 and older who are medically frail but ideally allowing boosters for others who want them and who want that extra layer of protection i think would be a really reasonable and welcome step. So sanjay, obviously a lot of the data, as it always has during this pandemic, has come from israel. Can you just talk about why that is . I think its because of the deal they made with pfizer in order to get vaccines they would provide a lot of data and access. But is data are from israel, does that apply automatically to whats going on in the u. S. . I mean, they do have a higher Vaccination Rate and a smaller population. I dont know if that matters. No, i think its valuable. Its not perfect. But i think theyre ahead of us in terms of vaccinations. About 63 of the country is vaccinated. And you know, they started off quite strong. So its been interesting to sort of follow their data. And they also started boosting, as leana mentioned. Theyve been boosting really since august and theyre progressively doing younger and younger age groups. But i want to show you something to this point. Theres sort of a living lab, so its worth paying attention to. So lets look at whats been happening in israel. You look, again, very high Vaccination Rates, higher than the united states. Even after they even with those Vaccination Rates and even after starting to boost they still have some of the highest Sevenday Average of new coronavirus cases. Now, many of those patients arent ending up in the hospital. Theyre not dying. So thats good. But they are testing positive. They are these breakthrough cases. And i think its going to be an important piece of data if youre trying to say hey, look, were going to boost because we want to cut down breakthrough cases, cut down transmission, if you look at the israel data i think from what im Seeing Youd have a hard time making the case there. Now, there may be new data, other data thats going to be presented at the meeting tomorrow. But if you say boosting will ultimately bring down cases, thats not what theyve seen in israel so far. That may change, but at least so far thats not been the case. But just to be clear, when you see that you think, well, it looks like the boosters arent having any impact, those are not hospitalizations and deaths. Those are just cases and israel has a lot of data that we dont have. I mean, do we test the population like israel does . They know about the cases they have. We dont know if we have a similar spike, right . Right. I mean, that has been a problem throughout this entire pandemic here in the united states. We simply dont have some of that same data. They look at these cohort groups. Theyll look at these large groups of people in certain places around the country and basically extrapolate that data to try to get a sense of what the country looks like. And some of that can be decent data. But when youre looking at israel, theyre doing much more wide testing so they can actually really get deep, granular on what this means. But its an important point youre bringing up, anderson. The vaccines work. So the hospitalizations and deaths are still low proportionately compared to where their cases are. And thats great. Thats good. Thats happening there and thats happening here as well. You know, dr. Wen, sanjay said something, i think it was last night, that really registered with me because when i hear about okay, the percentage of hospitalizations, It Kind of loses me sometimes. But he was pointing out that the vaccine, it protects it gives you great protection for your lungs. You dont want covid to get into your lungs. Vaccine protects your lungs. It may not you may get covid in your nasal passages where its tested and youre positive, but its not going into your lungs because that has better protection because of the vaccine, the Bottom Line be being you need to get vaccinated if you are unvaccinated. Is that correct . And sanjay, im sorry if i paraphrased you incorrectly. I mean, i totally agree with you and i agree with sanjay there that that is ultimately the reason why we get vaccinated. We get vaccinated to prevent against severe illness. He with get vaccinated to prevent from going to the hospital, ending up in the icu, ending up in the morgue. That is what its about at the end of the day. There are some other people who might say hey, if the vaccines can also reduce our likelihood of becoming carriers of infecting, for example, our unvaccinated children or other people or spreading the infection, thats a secondary but also potentially important reason for getting vaccinated too. Thats why ultimately this is not just about the science, which is very important but ultimately it also comes down to values. And i think this is why were seeing this lack of clarity, that people may be looking at the same set of data but having two totally different interpretations because its about values. Sanjay, ive got to go. But did i get that right . Protects the lungs, you may have it in your nose but it protects your lungs . Most of the immunity is in that part of your body. Thats why its so good at protecting against severe illness. Okay. Good. Thank you, Sanjay And Dr. Leana wen. I can visualize that. He with want to focus on the Toll Covid is taking on children and their families. Dwr mary suzanne whitworth, a pediatric disease specialist, said to an Nbc Affiliate Weve had plenty of children in the hospital, in the icu alone because one of their parents is on a ventilator somewhere else and the other one is home taking care of sick children or sick herself. Its emotionally hard to think that. Im joined now by dr. Whitworth, medical director of infectious diseases at cook Childrens Hospital in fort worth, texas. That is just when i heard that, i think its just devastating. I mean, again, this is what you and nurses and Hospital R professionals see all the time. But before this Delta Surge did you see entire families getting sick with covid . I think it was different in january when we had our last surge. We didnt have quite as many children in the hospital. And it just didnt seem like the whole family was sick as much as they are now. We see more where everyone at home is sick. And how many more sick children are you seeing now . And do you know where theyre Contracting Covid . Were seeing in the hospital about twice as many children as we did per day during the january, February Surge earlier this year. I always ask when i talk to them where i talk to the parents usually because the children are sick and dont talk. But i ask the parents where do you think it came from or where did they get this . And they almost always say from school, sometimes theyll say from the football team. Sometimes theyll say from a sibling whos in school. And so i think thats probably a pretty big part of it this time around. And i mean, just the idea of a child in a hospital whose parent is on a ventilator and the other parents home and theyre alone, i mean, its devastating. I dont know how you deal with that. You know, we have great people here who love these children. And everybodys doing their best like every Health Care Provider in the nation. But i think its been hard just to think through that and know what these families are going through. It seems to me theres a lot we dont know About Covid in kids long term. I mean, do kids are they getting Long Covid . Might they get Long Covid, which would you know, could that affect the Practice Jekt Trajec life . You know, i dont think weve had covid around long enough to know how long Long Covid will last. But we know that children are getting Long Covid and some of them have a cough for months and months or shortness of breath for months and months. Some have the brain fog. Some have headaches or abdominal pain. And we do see the Postacute Covid Syndrome or Long Covid in children. And i think time will tell where we end up with these children, how long these symptoms last. You know, Ellie Reeve a while ago interviewed a woman in arkansas or alabama, i cant remember which, and she said her 8yearold son had gotten covid, that he was still sick, that hed been sick for weeks, for a long time, and it had been bad, she didnt know what the damage was, she was going to take him to a doctor to see what kind of damage it was. She wasnt vaccinated. She didnt plan on getting vaccinated. Do parents i mean, im still stunned by that and i hope thats an anomaly. Im wondering what you hear from parents after their children get better, for the kids who are eligible, do they plan to have them vaccinated . Some definitely do. Some say oh, yes, were going right away. But there are still parents who will say to us im just not sure, i just feel worried about this and theyre concerned it hasnt been out long enough. We do our best to just give them an honest presentation of risks and benefits and hope theyll make the decision to go get vaccinated. And i do always say, you know, you just dont want to go through this again. Yeah. Well, dr. Mary suzanne whitworth, i appreciate what you and your whole team are doing. Thank you so much. Thank you. Still to come tonight, a lot of questions about the actions of general Mark Milley after that new Book Peril by Bob Woodward and Robert Costa. Later this month he testifies on capitol hill. One of the senators who will have a chance to ask him about the final months of the former administration will join us. And later, she wouldnt take questions as the former president s Press Secretary. Now Stephanie Grisham is pushing a new white House Memoir with her own set of alternative facts, lets call them. 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Something Speaker Pelosi appeared to back up in her Comments Today saying she and the general had what she called serious concerns about the former president. Joined now by democratic Senator Mazie Hirono who sits on the senate armed Services Committee where General Milley is scheduled to testify later this month. Senator, thank you for being with us. Some of your republican colleagues like senator rubio say the general some resign. Senator Rand Paul going further saying if the reporting is true he should be courtmartialed. What do you say to that . This is what i call selective outrage from the republicans, who show no indications that they want to get to the bottom of the insurrection of january 6th, for example. So as you mentioned, we will hear from General Milley in person September 28th and they will be able to ask him whatever questions they want. House Speaker Pelosi as we mentioned was asked about milley today. She said it wasnt a question of cutting him out of the chain of command, it was a question of what the checks and balances were on that were on that chain of command. Do you agree with her assessment . Well, yes. There is a process before any nuclear attack can occur. And General Milley is very well aware of that process even though im pretty sure the president did not think that there was such a process because hes very authoritarian and he believes that the rule of law doesnt apply to him. And so remember, this is in the context of the president former president pushing out the Big Lie about a rigged election before, during, and after. And i think it was very clear that he was very, very distressed, some could use the word unhinged. So heres General Milley making sure that everyone understood there is a process before anybody can press a button that would send a nuclear attack anybodys way. I also want to mention, anderson, that these kinds of mil to Mil Communications are pretty routine. Ive served on the armed Services Committee for eight years and these kinds of communications where a country such as Russia And China are very much a part of what we do and that is a part of General Milleys job. The headline that sort of has been buried here out of the woodward book, which again, i havent read and most people havent read yet, is that the general, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, thought the president of the united states was in, quote, serious mental decline. Well, thats the book. We will be able to ask General Milley what his assessment was. But the way i look at his actions is that it is part of the mil to Mil Communications that are really critical so there are no miscalculations. Such as a nuclear bomb hitting a country because of a miscalculation. This is why even during the height of the Cold War we had military to Military Communications with russia. 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The following week according to politico when the same Attorney General told Fox News there was, quote, no evidence of fraud that would change the results in arizona she texted the same aide, quote, such an ass. Joining us to discuss stephanie winston wolkoff, author of melanie and me. Thank you for being with us. Excuse me. Melania and me. I think i said melanie and me. Its been a while. All good. Stephanie grisham, she had it seems a very close relationship with the former First Lady at the time. She was chief of her staff, wasnt she . She was, anderson. And she actually held many positions in the White House. West wing, East Wing, residence. She was all around. Its kind of ironic that the title of the book is ill take your questions now. Given as we mentioned shes the only modern White House Press Secretary to never hold a press briefing. And i remarked about this during the time and she fired back something at me which i dont even remember. But i guess its a Double Entendre because i guess shes acknowledging she never took questions before but shell do it now because she has a book to sell. Its interesting to me that the Administration Or Somebody but clearly i guess it was from the administration gave politico her tweets. Or her texts. Look, anderson, i think unless sorry. Unless shes had an epiphany of conscience i dont think theres going to be anything really new in the book that we dont already know. There are certain levels of, you know, secrecy within the East Wing that doesnt tell the West Wing the Inner Workings and the dynamics of the two, you know, wings themselves. And have to do with the president and the First Lady, their inner circle, which is very tight. And as long as you go along with what you want them to say and do then youre part of the trump team. And thats exactly what stephanie did. Its a little too late. Its also and you saw this firsthand when you came out with your book. They turn on people who have been nothing but supportive of them very, very quickly. Unfortunately, they turn on people that are not only supportive of them but want the best for them. People who dedicated their lives in the military, when vindman i mean, so many people have been prosecuted by them because theyve told the truth. I told the truth. At a time when Nobody Else was. And by doing that grisham herself orchestrated the narrative that id gotten fired. And she was very aware that i had said to her, look, you cant do this. I went to legal council at the White House. It didnt matter. If you are going to support the trumps, that means you are going to say exactly what they want you to say or else youre no longer part of their team. Its so interesting to me because that loyalty is not really repaid in kind. Its not as if they are known for going to bat for people even if its against their interest. They seem very willing to kind of cut and run when it no longer suits their interests. I think too many people are listening to the words they say but not the actions theyre taking. And their loyalty only runs one way and it only runs their way. And its really unfortunate because you can be convinced, you can feel embraced by them, and hes very convincing to millions of people obviously. And i myself fell for melanias friendship. So i think that theres a narrative that people follow, people want to hear, people want to, you know, see but the reality of it all is this is about the trumps themselves and theyre going to make sure to keep going as long as their base is following them and say and do whatever it takes to keep them following. Beyond the snarky texts about can i oh, sorry. Go ahead. Oh, no, sorry. Beyond the snarky texts about the arizona Attorney General grisham was also apparently trying to facilitate Overturning Election Results in the states. Politico reports when grisham was approached by a lobbyist soliciting a 100,000 i guess fee to try to prove Election Fraud in Arizona Grisham forwarded the request to a Trump Campaign Aide and asked, any ideas . I guess any ideas about making this happen or what to do. You know, anderson, anything goes there. There are no rules. The rules have all been broken. And our country is in were struggling. Were looking for someone to lead. And unfortunately, by breaking all the rules all the time people are starting to wonder, you know, our children especially, who are our leaders of today and who are our leaders of tomorrow . And unfortunately, were not getting that right now because of people like Stephanie Grisham who are willing to break the rules to stay within the atmosphere within that inner circle. Its also hard i think for Stephanie Grisham to claim to be a Truth Teller know because she was a propagator of lies repeatedly when she held a position of power in the White House. You know, nowhere near as consequential but she had a history of misleading the public. There was that time, you know, first Lady Melania Trump wore the jacket to visit migrant children being held on the border saying, know which had the thing on the back. Grisham said its a jacket, there was no hidden message there. That wasnt accurate, right . No, anderson. And remember, i think i was on your show and we were speaking about it. Absolutely. Id spoken to Melania Right after this. I was still in communication with her. And i said why did you wear that jacket . What was the significance of that . And for her to say she would have gotten the attention otherwise, i even said to her, well, stephanie should have jumped on you. Figuratively and literally. And i said i would have jumped on you and not allowed you to walk out. And melania said back to me, i will do what i want to do. But the reality is that Stephanie Wasnt there to have melanias back. Stephanie was there as an ivanka loyalist. 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Republican lawmakers in pennsylvania have approved subpoenas for a wide range of data and personal information on voters including Drivers License numbers, Social Security Numbers and voting history. Its the latest move to advance the socalled investigation into the results of the 2020 election. Pennsylvania of course is a key Battleground State and a state where the former president has repeatedly made baseless claims of fraud. Democrats say theyll fight the subpoenas. So does the states Attorney General josh shapiro. And he joins us now. So Attorney General, what exactly is your plan to fight these . Well, first off, anderson, lets look at what the subpoenas actually ask for. Most of the information theyre asking for is actually already publicly available. Sort of confirming the charade that this really is. Then second, when you dive into the subpoenas, its very clear that there is absolutely no legitimate legislative purpose to snooping on Pennsylvania Voters and demanding their private information. Like you said, their Social Security Numbers, Drivers License numbers and voter history. Here in pennsylvania we have very strict laws and constitutional interpretation that makes it very clear that Peoples Information here needs to be protected, that their privacy is paramount. And turning that information over is certainly not legal. And so we will fight it. We will take all necessary legal steps to protect the privacy of pennsylvanians. You know, we saw some legislators from pennsylvania going to arizona for the you know, to kind of tour the phony audit that was going on there. It seems like this is kind of just Part And Parcel of that. I mean, theyre saying its necessary to this personal information is necessary to get to identify Voter Fraud. But theres no evidence of Voter Fraud. I mean, No One has presented real evidence of Voter Fraud. Most counties in your state underwent two audits. Yeah. Anderson, im the chief Law Enforcement Officer of the commonwealth of pennsylvania. We had less than a handful of cases of Voter Fraud. In each case there these were individuals trying to cast one extra vote for Donald Trump. We did not have the widespread Voter Fraud that they are alleging. We had a safe and secure, free and fair election. And its important to note that weve already gone through two statutorily required audits here in pennsylvania which confirmed the results that Joe Biden won by just over 80,000 votes. I think its important for people to understand that the person leading this committee and the person who is leading it before went to arizona to study the Sham Audit and before they went forward with these ridiculous hearings and with these subpoenas they checked with one person, Donald Trump. They didnt check with the taxpayers whose money theyre spending on this. They didnt check with the people who were concerned and want them focused on real issues like covid and educating our kids and public safety. Instead they want to Donald Trump and asked his permission to go forward with this. Its a sham. Its a charade. And its something that i am going to stop here in pennsylvania. They will not get the personal information that they are asking for from the good people of pennsylvania. Is there any real peril to handing it over to a Senate Caucus . Absolutely. We have laws in this commonwealth that make clear that peoples personal private information needs to be protected. In fact, our Pennsylvania Supreme Court has held time and time again that the right to informational privacy here in pennsylvania is protected under our state constitution. Just the act of handing it over to some of these senators is questionable. And certainly handing it over to some thirdparty organization that these republicans have yet to name who probably are going to be folks associated with the former president puts really violates the law in pennsylvania, violates our constitution, is something that certainly is not going to happen on my watch. It certainly seems like its an attempt just to make it seem like they are doing something, you know, some sort of investigation on socalled Election Integrity when in fact theyre not really doing anything because Theres Nothing really that they can do or to be done. Because when you push back saying what is this Election Integrity, they come back saying, well, whats wrong with more transparency . If Theres Nothing to hide, you know, why not hand this stuff over . Right. I guess id just respectfully push back on you a little bit. You used the word seem twice in the question. Thats actually what theyre doing. They are actually perpetuating they are actually perpetuating a charade on the good people of pennsylvania at the behest of Donald Trump. They are spending Taxpayer Money on this. They are trying to compromise the privacy of the people of pennsylvania. Thats what theyre doing in order to keep faith and run an errand for Donald Trump. In addition to arizona and pennsylvania, wisconsin has already authorized an audit. Weve seen State Gop lawmakers in michigan, georgia and Texas Push for reviews there. Do you worry about just nationwide about our democracy when this seems to be the playbook that theyre sticking with as we head into future elections . Every single hour of every single day i worry about our democracy. Look, the good people of pennsylvania have been lied to by their elected leaders, elected republican leaders here in pennsylvania, lied to by the former president. Those lies are dangerous. Theyre not just things that get talked about around the Water Cooler or on television. Theyre things that, you know, end up being a kocancer on our democracy. Theyre things that dont allow us to agree on basic sets of facts and data and science that we need, for example, to beat this pandemic. Theyre tearing us apart. And they are making people feel as though they will not be counted in our democracy. Im fighting back against that. Its important to note, anderson, that they sued us over 40 times here in pennsylvania. First to make it harder for people to vote and second to make sure that their votes didnt count. We beat them every single count, and well do it again with this Sham Audit. Attorney general, appreciate it. Thanks so much. Josh shapiro. Still to come, a way to escape all the political drama. What i discovered when i did . Digging into my Moms Family for a new book. Psst psst allergies dont have to be scary. Spraying flonase daily stops your body from overreacting to allergens all season long. Psst psst flonase all good. 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Wanted to take a few minutes to let you know about a book i have written thats coming out on september 21st. Now, it wasnt my idea to launch a book on the same day as Bob Woodward but what are you going to do . Its not a book about politics. Thats the good news. Or the former president. Its a book about another larger than Life Family full of flawed but fascinating characters. It is a very human, intimate, and personal approach to a history of my Moms Family, the vanderbilts. Its called vanderbilts, the Rise And Fall of an american dynasty. And really, its a book i never thought i would write because its, in many ways, a family i really tried to distance myself from much my life. I didnt know much about the family my mom, Gloria Vanderbilt was born into in 1924. She didnt talk much about her complicated childhood and when i was growing up, the Vanderbilt Dynasty with its enormous palaces and lavish lifestyles had long since vanished. To me, the vanderbilts were like ghosts. Mysterious people from a past i wanted nothing to do with. After my mom died and my son, wyatt, was born in 2020, i began to wonder what i would tell him about the vanderbilts. What did i hope he learns from the lives they led and the choices they made . I began going through boxes my mom had in her apartment. They were filled with photos and old newspaper clippings. 130yearold school books her father doodled in as a child. Journals and handwritten letters from her mother and her aunt, gertrude vanderbilt whitney. Reading these notes and writings, i began to hear the voices of these people i never knew. They werent just onedimensional figures in a history book. They were complex, flush with emotion and desire. Their inner lives, far more compelling than their public personi would lead us to believe. There was the cunning and crude commodore cornelius vanderbilt. His statue still stands outside New Yorks grand central station, which he founded. His genius and relentless cunning enabled him to become the richest man in the world with 100 Million in 1877. His mania for money would go onto infect generations of vanderbilts in different ways. His son, billy, mocked and discounted by the commodore for much of his life doubled his Fathers Fortune in just eight short years. But subsequent generations began a spending spree, likes of which america had never seen. His sons, cornelius, my great grandfather and his brother, willie, their strongwilled and ambitious Wives Alice and elva began Building Palaces in New York and newport. They threw lavish parties to show off their wealth, and make the Vanderbilts The Kings And Queens of New York society. Their childrens lives were shaped for better and often for worse by the money and the privileges that afforded them. There was my grandfather, reginald, who inherited millions of dollars and went through it as quickly as he drank himself to death. His brother, My Great Uncle Alfred who died on the lucitania, sunk by a german uboat. He gallantly gave his Life Jacket to a fellow passenger and went down with the ship. His sister, gertrude, who lived what was at the time a scandalous secret life, embattled by grandmother for custody of my Then10yearold Mom in a trial that captivated the world and changed their lives, forever. Now, here is the first movie of little gloria, herself. Frightened by the curious crowd, she flees into her aunts car. Money isnt everything. But what i discovered in writing this book with Historian And Novelist Katherine Howe is that behind the glare of cameras, the magnificent and temporary mansions they built, the private lives the vanderbilts were messy and insecure. Complicated. Sometimes, irredeemable but always fascinating. Vanderbilt is the story of this family i never knew. My family. Its the story of the extraordinary rise and epic fall of an american dynasty. 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