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New data has him convinced it is needed. Welcome to The Viewers in the united states and around the world. Im Jim Acosta. You are in the situation room. We begin with the breaking news. New washing from department of Homeland Security about the potential violence surrounding this saturdays washington, d. C. Rally in support of the mob that stormed the capitol January 6. Former President Trump Lending support in a statement saying our hearts and mind are with the people being persecuted so unfairly relating to the protest concerning the rigged president ial election. It wasnt rigged. Cnn crime and justice correspondent Shimon Prokupecz is working the story. Theres new warning from department of Homeland Security. Give us the latest. Reporter yeah. Thats right. The warnings coming from online chatter according to the department of Homeland Security in an assessment, Intelligence Briefing that they just released saying theres the potential of violence and a lot based on what Law Enforcement is seeing for weeks and months. Continued chatter online Chat Rooms threatening violence and why the fence is back. For weeks and months officials said there was a potential the fence would come back and now because of the rally officials on the capitol decided to bring back the fence and the tsa say theyre ramping up security and the National Guard. It is not clear how the National Guard is going to be used but remember in the days after the insurrection they were behind the fences. National guard was all over here on Capitol Hill. Well see what they do when they come here. Also outside the Supreme Court where also theres going to be more fencing later tonight or tomorrow. Theyre going to place Security Fencing around the Supreme Court. Today Here Outside The Supreme Court some of the Law Enforcement officials, Police Officers that are going to be helping the Capitol Police from baltimore and virginia all here touring talking about things that may happen here at the Supreme Court and really all around as security here is tightened. Warnd on alert and the police saying that theyre going to be assisting in this as saturday approaches, jim. Shimon prokupecz, thank you very much. Lets get more with national Affairs Analyst Casey hunt and former ohio governor John Kasich and former acting baltimore commissioner. Lets start with you. The warning of Violence Tomorrow and saturday. How volatile is this situation, do you know . Could be very volatile. We have a former president stirring the pot. We have to realize what happened in january could possibly happen again. So this is all hands on deck. We need to be prepared and we need to be ready. Immediately. Sounds like they get ready, governor kasich. How dangerous is it for former President Trump stirring the pot as anthony was just saying putting out this statement in support of January 6 attackers in this Saturday Rally . Hearths and minds of the country are not with these people. I was just with a Trumper Today and shaking his head about Joe Biden. I said i endorsed Joe Biden. You want to know why . Look at what the fortunatelier president is doing trying to stir up a crowd whos basically there in support of the people that ransacked the capitol January 6. Theres a lot of people who are taking breaks from the news now because they cant take it anymore. You have to get back in the action. I dont care if youre a trumper or not. The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil for good men or people to do nothing and at the end of the day we have to come to the senses here because the founders warned us about farkss. Factions could destroy the country and wanted political parties to mediate things and got to wake up. Jim, no question. Yeah. Silence is acquiesceness. The former president said theyre persecuted unfairly. They attacked Capitol Police officers of course. How revealing is that statement do you think . It is just baffling to see Trump Weigh in like this. I dont know if its baffling. It is consistent with the previous behavior but important to underscore this is someone or a former president that tried repeatedly to cast himself as being on the side of Law Enforcement and encouraging people that beat officers, attacked them with american flags. I spoke with an officer injured that day that had to sit off the force several weeks rekofing from the injuries. Tried to get the people to listen him on the capitol and they told him we are only listening to Donald Trump. He is the person to call us off. We try to attack and fight with you and colleagues until we get into this building. Thats what were dealing with here. The Justice System will continue to do the work. There are hundreds of people charged with crimes in connection with this rally and i think most americans who see that video can see very plainly and because so many people not only appeared in these videos and then gloated on Social Media afterwards or talked about it on a Dating App in some cases and clear cut criminal cases to be prosecuted against them. Right. These are not political prisoners. These are specked criminals. These are lawbreakers. Commissioner barkdale, i spoke with a Trump Spokesperson earlier this afternoon saying the former president will not be there on saturday, the statement is it. Not a video statement. You have to wonder whether or not he is animating these supporters once again. How do you think the Law Enforcement community is responding to this . I hope that chiefs have got their plans together. But the big thing that i worry about is if they collapse as they did on 1 6 it can happen, wheres the National Guard . Is the National Guard going to be there . We cant wait three hours again to get the officers back up. If the trumpers decide they want to press the attack. We have to meet with a solid reaction and going from a protest to a riot we got to shut it down. I wish them all the very best on that day and want d. C. To win. Governor, republicans have been trying to distance themselves from this rally but if trump is giving this his blessing could we see others in the gop follow his lead . I think they just asoon this all go away. Think about Front Row Seat to the trump presidency. Its kind of hard to believe whats happening, isnt it . It is. Hard to believe after January 6, i used to be a congressman and watch them break in to the capitol and now a rally in support to them and the president basically supports that. Look. If youve been disgusted with trump keep your Patience And Talk to those trump people and get them to open their eyes because this country is keeps continues to go downhill and divided and denies a great future for our kids. Wake up for the good of our country. We deal with a former president who is sort of like an unrepentant arsonist. He cant help himself, enamored with the flames he sets. Whats disturbing is 78 of republicans say that Joe Biden did not actually win this election getting back to what John Kasich was saying. Its disturbing that we are still dealing with this. Hes saying it but theres also not very many republican leaders in the party who are willing to dispute it and lets it stand without any leadership going in the other direction. This is a point that Congressman Kinsinger makes over and again and Liz Cheney standing up against this but its dangerous and to go back to what we were talking about in terms of January 6 and what the people are willing to do here, again, these were Congress Men And Women attacked by these people and now they remain so afraid of the former president that theyre not willing to say anything about it in public. Yeah. It gets back to backing the blue. Theyre supposed to back the blue, Law Enforcement. Doing the opposite of that by getting behind this sort of thing. All right. Thank you to all of you. Coming up, following new developments in Fact Committee invest. Probing actions taken by general millie. Stay with us. Stay with us. Youre in the situation room. Crunching made our breakup easy im in the Friendzone Anyone can do it, even anyone. Hitting the road this summer . Not all 5g Networks are created equal. Tmobile covers more Interstate Highway miles with 5g than the other guys. 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It is a statement from the chairman and also the republican Vice Chairman Liz Cheney saying that these documents and these questions of the pentagon are a crucial area of invest. Why . Whats the White House and the pentagon saying and what communications to National Guard units there who took many hours to respond as u. S. Capitol police were overwhelmed . This is a key focus. Led by russell honore. How to streamline that if they need that backup they can get them there quickly. Two days you might have a similar situation. Our understand issing is that the lines of communication are open. They want to see if the White House stood in the way of that communication. We dont have those details. The months later. The calls of the joint chiefs with china. You heard that somehow milley communicating to china with secret information. A source said no. The conversations with china are regularly, quarterly and particularly in october four days before the election and then after the January 6 insurrection that there was as described to me plenty of reason to believe that china was m misinformed basically. Reading Intelligence And Conspiracy theories believing that the u. S. Might attack and then President Trump might order an attack in effect a red Phone Conversation for him to say we are not going to war here. Things are under control. And this was a pattern in the Trump Administration where the advisers felt the need to Back Channel adversaries in the midst of crisis. In 2018 the worst of the North Korea Standoff they went to the Counter Parts saying we are not going to war. Dont listen to the little rocket man stuff. In 2019 with worries of escalation with iran u. S. Military went to the Counter Parts saying we are not going to war. Thats the E Equivalquivalent o Phone Conversation. The concerns went throughout the Trump Administration. Thank you so much. We appreciate that. Now i want to bring in our democratic congressman from northern virginia, jerry connelly. Hey, congressman, thank you so much for joining us. My pleasure. What do you hope the select committee will learn from the Record Request about the failure to secure the capitol . I suspect that you are in favor of that information being turned over. Absolutely. I think there are unanswered questions of what happened and led up to and what happened on January 6. One of the most puzzling is that so many hours went by with unfolding violence, with lots of panicked reports going to the pentagon and to the White House, to call them off, to get relief, to get additional troops here for security and the fact is it took hours for that to happen. In fact virginia and maryland got troops here faster than the federal government was able to get National Guard troops and i think that needs to we need to understand how and why did that happen. The select committee says it will carefully evaluate the facts from the reporting about the joint chief chairmans actions. You heard gjim talking about this. Is it appropriate to reportedly review the nuclear weapons processes with the chinese and try to reassure the Counter Part the u. S. Would not strike, the Back Channel discussions going on . Based on what we know, yes, totally appropriate and i completely agree with Jim Sciutto characterization. This was a red Phone Conversation. It is timely. Given the manic behavior that Donald Trump was engaged in after the Election Defeat Everybody has cause to be worried and not acknowledging that is a significant omission from the record during those final days of the Trump Administration and i think the fact that the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff had reason to worry about the mental stability of the president to reassure Friend And Foe alike is a profound statement and the behave of The General himself. General milley reportedly believed trump was in serious Mental Decline and now trump is expressing im sure you have seen this statement. I have. Expressing sympathy for the rioters. Theyre not political prisoners. Do you think hes inciting violence again . I think he is. I think he did on January 6. This is a pattern and all of the republicans in the house to the contrary notwithstanding this man is clearly reverting to physical violence as a tool for political advancement. That is a terrifying development and ought to be condemned by republicans and democrats alike. Actually lionizing people who violently attempted to interfere with the Election Validation of a president ial election by Insurrection And Siege and threatening bodily harm of those who are constitutional charged with that duties really a treasonous act and not something to be praised by anybody. We cant be surprised the fact that he was The One Who Incited violence to begin with. January 6 was traumatic for so many. What are people saying behind the scenes right now in advance of this event on saturday . I know democrats, republicans they speak privately about some of these concerns. What are you picking up on ahead of saturday . I think for a lot of people emotional trauma is a very powerful experience. We know that from combat but you can experience trauma in many, many ways and members and staff members experienced trauma on January 6 so this revisiting of that potentially just makes them revisit the trauma over again and we have a new Police Chief on Capitol Hill and he was my Police Chief in Fairfax County as chairman of the county and i have every confidence that violence is not tolerated or revisited on saturday. Okay. Well be watching for that. Congressman, thank you very much. Appreciate those insights. My pleasure. Next, a prominent lawyer at the center of a bizarre case with deaths and Hit Man appears in court. The latest on the Sprawling Mystery next. We see a close up of the grille. An overhead shot. She drives hands free. Along the coast. Make it palm springs. Cadillac is going electric. If you want to be bold, you have to go offscript. Reserve your lyriq september 18th. Girl Feeling lost. Help . man do what moves you. Visible is wireless that doesnt play games. 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Bail is set at 20,000 for a wellknown south Carolina Lawyer at the center of a Sprawling Mystery of Mrl Pl deaths, alleged fraud, addiction and a Hit Man. Murdaugh faces Fraud Charges and tonight his lawyer said the client fallen from grace. Cnn nalgal Correspondent Dianne Gallagher has the latest. Reporter Tonight Prom innocent south Carolina Attorney Alex Murdaugh into the Hampton County Jail for his role in allegedly conspireing to shoot and kill him. Appearing before a judge. Fallen from grace. It is a tremendous before any of that falling happened his Wife And Son were brutally murdered and that is an extraordinary affect on him. Reporter becoming emotional as the lawyer okayed the bond charged with conspiracy to commit fraud and filing a false police report. Total bond is 20,000. Reporter his attorneys say that the shooting was a scheme to leave a Life Insurance Polg Sy And Murdaugh did survive. The man accused of Shooting Murdaugh in the head Curtis Smith appeared in court today. Interested in a public defender . Yes. Reporter smith posting 55,000 bonld for several charges including assisted Suicide And Conspiracy to commit Insurance Fraud. The alleged self arranged attempt on Murdaughs Life a move amidst turmoil including financial troubles. A day before the September 4 Shooting Murdaugh resigned from the Law Firm after being accused of misappropriating the funds used to fuel a drug addiction. Are they breathing . No, maam. Reporter an adirks they claim worsened by the murders of hi Wife And Son at the estate. Their murders are still unsolved. The State Investigators have opened a new Criminal Investigation into the 2018 death of the Murdaugh Family Housekeeper gloria in part its due to Quote Information gathered in the course of the ongoing invests with Alex Murdaugh. She died from injuries in whaft described as a Trip And Fall accident at the Murdaugh Home but an autopsy was never done. A letter was sent ordering them to reexamine the death noting on the Death Certificate the manner is ruled natural which is inconsistent with injuries sustained in a Trip And Fall accident. Certainly there were questions by my clients because after she unfortunately fell she was air lifted to a hospital and she had a traumatic Brain Injury and never was able to communicate for them until she died. Reporter Alex Murdaugh quickly leaving a few minutes ago. Rushing in to a vehicle presumably on the way back to an out of State Drug Rehabilitation facility, required to stay in that facility. If he leaves theres a Bench Warrant out for his arrest. What a wild case. All right. Dianne gallagher, thank you. Lets get more on this bizarre case with paul callan. Have you ever seen a case like this before . This one is wild. I have seen similar cases in terms of people staging a hit Man Action but the number of bodies involved, the problems that murdaugh is facing . No. Never seen anything like it. It is astounding. There are now five deaths connected to the Murdaugh Family. What we now see a more indepth investigation . They have to go back and see if theres connections. Yes, absolutely. And the staged hit Man Action gives the police a viable criminal charge. Thats a felony. Conspiracy to commit Insurance Fraud and can be held in jail on the charges while the investigation continues with the death of his Wife And Son and suspicious death of housekeeper and a teen that died under suspicious circumstances and theres also a Boating Accident that involves a son in which a young woman was killed. Alm of these things are now open to reinvestigation by South Carolina police. Murdaugh is a well connected attorney. How does that shape how police approach the investigations . Sometimes it can color the investigation. Sometimes it can. The Murdaugh Family is a wellknown family in the county. As a matter of fact there are three or four generations of prosecutors who have come out of that family through the years. In the solicitors office. Theyre wellknown, they would know and be in contact with the police but i think that there is so much trouble and dark clouds attached to murdaugh whatever Family Connections he had theyre gone now. A charge that the attorney admitted to this morning on the today show the client under investigation for embezzling funds from his own Law Firm and used the funds to purchase painkillers and eventually would be disbarred as an attorney and allegations with respect to the housekeeper who died in a Slip And Fall accident, no autopsy was done in the Case And Murdaugh referred the case allegedly to a friendly lawyer. Who would be the lawyer in charge of the case against murdaugh. If true thats unethical behavior by the lawyer. 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Economy is at what he calls an Influx Point pushing congress to pass the Spending Plan which he says could quote change the trajectory of the nation. Senior white House Correspondent Phil mattingly joans us with more. The remarks on the news that the economy is having sharp divisions within the democratic party on what to do ab this agenda. Reporter something the president alluded to Today Congratulating committees for advancing the agenda but a long road ahead with intraparty divisions. Whether its tax policy, Prescription Drugs, the Scale And Scope of the legislation all fought out right now on Capitol Hill and that was in part officials say why the president gave the remarks today, touting that proposal to drive home a central point that doing something is better than doing nothing and at this moment it is time to do something. Take a listen. I have said many times before i believe we are at an Inflection Point in this country. Lets not squander this moment trying to preserve an economy thats not worked well for americans for a long time. Lets not look backward trying to rebill what we had. Lets look forward together as one america not to build back but to build back better. Reporter i think thats a key point here that i hear from White House officials. Theyre absolutely feverish negotiations going on. White house legislative Affairs Team trying to hammer out the details and also an element at the White House. Two democratic Counter Parts on The Hill that see a real opportunity to do things, whether its on social Safety Net Expansionable climate policy, immigration that democrats wanted to do for years and now the opportunity is here and the underlying message seems to be dont let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Thank you so much. Now the latest on the coronavirus pandemic. The subject of much debate and confusion, lets talk about it with dr. Peter hotez. Doctor, always great to see you. The fda released some Background Information ahead of tomorrows meeting on boosters. How do you think this will play out . There is also some important data presented from israel that was published last night in the new England Journal of medicine that over 35 the third booster does a tremendous amount. Those that got the third immunization 20 times less likely to get serious impact. The problem with it is that they only looked up to 25 days after the immunization, after the third immunization and dont have much data after the third immunization and we dont see a lot of saferty data and it comes to light tomorrow. I think theres a high likelihood that the Recommendation Tf third immunizations for those over 60 or 65. I dont know if its a universal recommend dais and not seen any data on the Moderna Or J j vaccine. Theres a potential plan for a booster program. There those eligible be able to i think so. The early on we relied on the Pharmacy Chains and Hospital Systems to provide immunization and there was such demand that there was a need to open unvaccination hubs so i think we have to go back to the Pharmacy Chains and the Hospital Systems and hopefully that will be adequate but that remains to be seen. Some question the benefits of boosters but is there harm to a young person getting a third dose of the Pfizer Vaccine . Im not asking for myself. I think the Big Question is we did see some slight uptick in the amount of my ocarditis. We want to make certain that theres not an increase in the rate. I dont think so but we havent seen that data yet so for me thats the only real Safety Question and then the whether or not they make the recommendation universally is going to be very important to see. Very important to see. No question about it. Dr. Hotez, we appreciate it. I appreciate it. Thank you. Coming up, new evidence that North Koreas expanding the nuclear program. 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With app, cloud and anywhere workspace solutions, vmware helps companies navigate change meeting them where they are, and getting them where they want to be. Faster. Vmware. Welcome change. Nightly Satellite Images reveal a significant expansion of a key North Korea nuclear facility. Alex, what do these images reveal about North Koreas Missile Program . Jim, what these images show, experts believe, is there is an intention by North Korea to increase their production of weapons material. You are looking at the research facility complex. If you look at these images over time, one expert told our college Zach Cohen that what it shows is that expansion there adding a space around A Thousand square meters that can hold athousand additional sentra fujs. That means an increase in production of 25 of this weapons grade material. This is in line, what the experts say is in line with what u. S. Officials also believe that North Korea is up to or is planning. This comes on the heels of a report by the international atomic Energy Agency saying they have detected more activity by a new new clear reactor at this site. This comes at the same time North Korea is actively testing new missiles . Yeah. There has been a flurry of Missile Tests. What you are seeing there are the ballistic missiles launched wednesday. They were fired west about 500 miles crashing down in the sea. The North Koreans said they were fired by a Railway Born missile regimen. That comes days after we heard of another Missile Launch on sunday. Those were two longrange Cruise Missiles that had never before been tested. So we have had this flurry of Missile Tests. On top of that, after those Missile Tests from the train on wednesday, the South Koreans themselves tested another ballistic missile from a submarine. So you are seeing this Ratcheting Up of tensions in an already extremely volatile region, jim. Of course, there is next to no communication, we understand, between the u. S. And North Korea right now. The State Department recently called for dialogue, but as far as we know, the North Koreans have not reached back out to the u. S. Jim . All right. Alex, thanks very much for that report. Now to another story were following. Space x sending a crew of four amateur astronauts into orbit on a historic mission. Joining us from the launch site. Kristin, none of the people on this flight are professionally trained astronauts. Is that a good idea . What exactly are they doing up there . And how long will this extraordinary mission last . Well, were about a full day in to this Threeday Trip to space. Right now the crew is just over the coast of australia. Theyre conducting scientific experiments, medical experiments. But theyre also sitting back and enjoying The View and getting a much more expansive view of Planet Earth than Jeff Bezos or Jeff Branson did. The inspiration 4 mission is going to circle the earth about 50 times. Three, two, one the crew of Space Xs inspiration 4 lifting off from historic Launch Pad at the kennedy space center, the same Launch Pads used for decadecade. Not one of the four people inside this crew is a professional astronaut. The door is opening up. It is pretty incredible. Jared isaacman, the 38yearold Billionaire Entrepreneur and pilot who funded the flight believes this first mission will change perceptions about who gets to go to space. 29yearold haley is a pediatric Cancer Survivor with a prosthetic leg, which would have immediately disqualified her from becoming a nasa astronaut. Was a finalist, but didnt make the cut. And kristin is an engineer who always dreamed about going to space but didnt think he had the right stuff to actually be an astronaut. It is incredible to see. Now im The One down Center Line really trying to inspire people to understand that we are on that path of Opening Space to everyone. There they are, our first all civilian crew. A few hours before launch, the crew walked out of a Space X hanger to crowds of cheering Space X employees. They took teslas to the Launch Pad which Space X now leases from nasa. The Government Space Agency had nothing to do with this missions safety. We dont have a very big role here. This is Space Xs show and were really happy for them. It is a milestone years in the making as the governments decades long monopoly on human Space Flight ends. This is the first time in Human History that you can buy a ticket from a Human Company and fly to space. So this, i think, will mark an Inflection Point in human Space Flight. We will see a renaissance of people flying to space. And as more and more people fly to space, it is really fuelling the semantic debate over who should get to call themselves an astronaut in this new era of space tourism. The inspiration 4 crew certainly thinks they deserve that distinction. But because this spacecraft is totally autonomous and because on their official faa paperwork, they were listed as Space Flight participants and not crew, this crew may not get their official government issued commercial astronaut wings. Just send me to space. Call me whatever you want. Thats all right. Thanks for that report. Breaking news next. A new warning about potential violence at this Saturdays Rally here in washington in support of the mob that stormed the capital on January 6th. Sam. Do you see the Tow Truck . Yes, thank you, that was fast. Sgt. Houston never expected this to happen. Or that her Grandpas Dog tags would be left behind. But that one call got her a tow and rental. Paid her claim. And we even pulled a few strings. 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Im Jim Acosta and youre in the situation room. This is cnn breaking news. Lets go right to the capital and a new warning about potential violence on saturday. Our congressional correspondent Ryan Nobles is following the breaking story. Ryan, the department of Homeland Security issued a new Intelligence Bulletin a short while ago. Even though capital police feel they have everything under control ahead of thi

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