Thank you for watching. Don Lemon Tonight with the big star, d lemon, right now. How you doing . You all right . Im im confused, man. About what . Um, im confused about whats happening with this missing 22yearold. Beautiful kid. Going around the country. Im confused by this south Carolina Situation with this murdaugh family. Ive never heard of by the way, its not murdoch like media murdochs. Its a totally different family. I have never heard anything like it. And i am confused at how your senators how the senators believe that they can get righteous about milley for deciding to do something about an obvious risk that they ignored. And now, they dont want to give the benefit of the facts that he followed protocol and worked with the secretary of defense and had a roomful of people when he made these calls. And they still want to say he went rogue. So, you want to misrepresent what he did when he did the right thing and you did nothing and you think you are going to be the righteous agent . Yeah. Well, two things. Number one, i hope that the families of the young people i hope they figure out what happened to everyone. I hope there is a resolution um to all of it. Um you cant bring people back. But i hope hopefully, that works out. Now, moving onto the political part. Um, there have been so many people who have been an apologist for this president. You know ive felt the entire time. Pretty much, the entire campaign. Um, once he became the nominee and then became the president. That it was time to really call people out on their you know what. On their bs. Including him. And including the folks around him who were apologists and who aided and abetted in all of his wrongdoings. And so, i think that for for them not to step up now or to call for milley to be to resign or i think someone is even calling for him to be court marshalled or something. Its just absolutely ridiculous. Have a seat. You didnt do the right thing. Youre still trying to elevate yourself through some Big Lie that you dont even know is gonna work in the next election. Because it is a Minority Minority of people. And so, i think we have to stop coddling people when it comes to this and the vaccine saying oh, you Cant Shame them. You cant call them stupid. You cant call them silly. Yes, they are. The people who aided and abetted trump are stupid because they believed his Big Lie. The people who are not getting vaccines, who are believing the lies on the internet, instead of science, its time to start shaming them. What else . Or leave them behind. Be because they are keeping the majority of americans behind. You didnt feel that way about the polio vaccine. You dont feel that way about measles, mumps, rubella when it comes to your children. All of the sudden, this vaccine is different . Whats different about it . The only different about is it because of your politics today. People talk about, well, i dont know whats in the shot, chris. I dont know whats in that shot. I will tell you whats not in it. A tracking device. Yeah, hold on. Let me finish this. You know what they got shots in nowadays . In their rearends, they are getting shots to make it bigger. They are getting shots in their face. They dont know whats in botox. They dont know whats in the stuff. Nothing wrong with botox. People dont know what they eat, what they drink, what they smoke. My eyebrow went up. I dont have it now. As you can see, i got all these wrinkles. Everybody asks me when are you going to get botox . Nothing wrong with botox but i am saying, do people really know what is in stuff they inject in their bodies all the time . What they eat. What they drink. Stop it. Stop it with the ignorance. And we have to stop saying, oh well, you know, you have to listen to people and no, you dont. These people are being harmful to the greater good. You dont have to listen to a minority of people who are being harmful to the greater good, and who are not acting on logic, reason, and science. I had i had an issue. I told you, chris, when my family was here and they were saying, well, i dont know. I just i said you know how you got here to visit me in New York . You took an airplane. What is that . Science. Right . You know why people live to be older than 40, 50, 60 years old, these days . Science. Medicine. No one questions that. You know why people you know what what is so contradictory about it when people get sick, they go into the hospital and they say, throw it all, give it to me. Inject it. Put it in me. And you are going to pay a whole lot of money and you are going to tax the medical system when you could have gotten it for free, and you wouldnt be in that position, in the first place. You are going to question the vaccine but you want to take a horse dewormer. But look. Here is the thing. I i accept Everything Youve just said. Most of all, the idea that the majority cannot be healed by the tyranny of a minority. Yeah. Their stubbornness has to be their own consequence at some point and the rest of us have to be able to live life. Yeah. Now, i see a repeat of Messaging Problems that we had with the vaccine with the booster. Somebody allowed Joe Biden to go out and set a schedule before they had all their ducks in a row. Yeah. Now, theyre going to debate whether or not there is a booster. Which set of data . How do they look . We have discussed this, before. Scientists make lousy messengers because were used to people in politics holding onto a position no matter what the facts are. The facts change, and the politician never changes their position. Yeah. Science changes, as you learn things. But now, we are in a situation where he said september20 rollout. Now, theyre going to debate. Now, there is a mix of minds as to whether or not we need it. And thats all fine. But youve got to be good on the messaging side. You dont have biden go out and set out a timetable before you know whether you need it. Thats hard, though, chris. Because as you say, when you thats why it was called a novel virus. Because it was new. And you learn when you learn things about new things about especially when it comes to science, what do you do . You adapt. Yes. And so, you should have an open mind about it. Yes. What what because if if people were trying to fool you, they would just say, okay, here. Its set in stone and they wouldnt change. Theyre not doing that. I agree. You think there is a whole conspiracy to put stuff in it its absolutely ridiculous. I agree. It is its crazy. So, look. I understand the whole thing about messaging. Okay. Fine. Theres there could be better messaging. Hindsight is 20 20 or whatever. No, i am saying right now with the booster. Well, okay, fine. But listen. Maybe, at some point, they thought they needed it. And then, they studied it and got some new information about it. What harm is it what is it gonna do . Whats the harm in it . Why do you care so much . Why does it matter so much . If science now said, don, you need to reup your measles, mumps, rubella that you got when you were a kid. What would i say . Okay, great. Before, a couple years ago, we didnt need shingles vaccines. Now, when i go to get my Flu Shot now, guess what i am going to do . Im going to get a shingles vaccine. Was there some conspiracy from people trying to make me sick . No, all of the sudden, we have discovered shingles is a problem in our society and now we have to get it. Just dont give ammunition to the haters. Thats all i am saying. Yes. But ievery year, you get a Flu Shot. You dont say i took the Flu Shot last year. Why do i need that Flu Shot, again . You get it again. I am with you. But this is a little different in that you have the president saying, all right, here is when the boosters come. And now, you got the head of the Nih And Head of the fda saying hold on, were not sure we need the booster, yet. And that Fuels Resistance. I am saying there is no need for that. But it Fuels Resistance for people who are not being logical. People who are looking for an excuse not to do it. An excuse to criticize the the administration. Heres what you do. Oh, they have new science. When they say get the booster, i will get it. Okay. They said we dont need okay, fine. Whenever they do it, just be curious, instead of judgmental. And figure out listen to the scientists. What they say. And if they tell you to do something, do it because theyre not doing it of some conspiracy. Scientists and Science Arent political. They dont care. They care about what is in the science. Mathematicians. Its not political. One plus one equals two. That is it. So, just stop trying to look for reasons to criticize the administration and to not get something because maybe youre afraid of it or because you want to be political about it. And just be open. Im with that. Im just saying just dont give Em Reasons to doubt you. Okay. Fair. Get it together. And then, give us the answer and well move forward. I im going to go because im going to im going to have to come next door and smack you if you keep disagreeing with me. You know where i am. I love you, d lemon. Listen. This is how you do it. I dont think this is really a disagreement. Disagree about how often you put stuff on your face. If you hear what people say you know what people say about us. You guys have aged so much in the last thats true. There is no there is no drug thats going to say what weve been through. There is not enough to stop this. Hey, and by the way, if you want to, get your botox. Thats your business. I am just saying people go and get injections all the time. They dont know the exact science behind it and it is okay. Right . Its been fda approved. People have free choice. Do what you want to do. I have never judged anything you have done to yourself. Tomorrow, i am going to come in and ill be like this. You look like the cat lady. I love you. I love you, too. This is Don Lemon tont. And what i am about to say is chris and i have had our fun but we are telling The Truth about a lot. And here. Look. What i want to say is something that may be tough to hear but it is really The Truth. I want you to listen to me because we weve got to face this. The well of the american Electoral System has been poisoned. It is the Crown Jewel of our democracy. Our free and fair elections. The envy of the world. Poisoned with lies. Lies that are now baked into the platform of what used to be called the party of lincoln. A party thats now under the spell of the Big Lie of boguselection denialism. Now, millions of americans tonight dont believe that Joe Biden is the rightful President Of The United States. I want you to just look at this is the result of cnns poll. A new poll that we have out. 78 of republicans dont think Joe Biden actually won the election. 78 . Thats not a matter of opinion. Its a fact. Joe biden is the duly elected president. But you know who else didnt believe that . Hundreds of rioters who tried to stop the peaceful transfer of power on one of the darkest days in american history. When lawmakers were forced to run for their lives. When rioters put up a gallows and chanted hang Mike Pence. Hang Mike Pence hang Mike Pence when they savagely beat Police Officers trying to defend the capitol. And what fueled all of that . The Big Lie. The lie that 78 of republicans still believe. How can you have a functioning democracy when nearly eight in ten republicans say that the President Of The United States didnt legitimately win the election . There is absolutely no evidence of widespread Voter Fraud in 2020 and and case after case has been just thrown out of court. Yet, the vast majority of republicans continue to believe the lie. That as more than look at this 90 of americans think that democracy is under attack. Or being tested. Like i said, the well of the american Electoral System has been poisoned. 51 of americans say it is likely elected officials in the next few years will overturn the results of an election their party didnt win. That is scary. And if you think that cant happen, just take a look at whens going on in pennsylvania. Its happening right now. Republicans voting today to subpoena the Pennsylvania Department of state for millions of voters personal information. Things like names, addresses, Drivers License numbers, and partial social security numbers. Its fraudit 2. 0. They are digging for any sign of Voter Fraud, even though theres absolutely no evidence of significant fraud in pennsylvania or any other state, for that matter. What ever happened to the gop being the party of limited government . The party that used to be appalled by Government Intrusion and overreach . I guess, this is a Wholenother Ball Game when you are trying to appease a disgraced, twiceimpeached, oneterm, former president who is still pushing the same, Big Lie of Boguselection Fraud that fueled the insurrection at the capitol. And its still alive and well, today. Ive said it before. The Warning Lights are blinking red. Take a look at this live picture of the capitol now. Fencing going up around the capitol tonight. Just like after january 6th. Can you believe we are here, again . The tsa ramping up security ahead of the socalled justice for J6 Rally which, lets remember, is in defense in defense of the insurrectionists who tried to stop the peaceful transfer of power. Capitol police requesting d. C. National guard assistance. We have received a request from the Capitol Police for some assistance for this weekends protests. Scheduled protest. Im not going to detail the specific request. The House Sergeant at arms warning members and staff to avoid the capitol on saturday, ahead of the rightwing rally at the scene of the crime. Eight months after bloodthirsty rioters stormed the seat of our democracy. That as more bombshells come from the this new book thats out, peril. Documenting the final, out of control few weeks inside the thenpresident s inner circle. You have to listen to this. Bob woodward and his Washington Post coauthor, robert costa, reporting in the book obtained by cnns Jamie Gangel that joint Chiefs Chairman general Mark Milley believed the then president was in such serious Mental Decline, that he tried to ensure trump didnt start a war with china. They write that milley, quote, was certain that trump had gone into a serious Mental Decline in the aftermath of the election with trump now all but manic. Screaming at officials and constructing his own alternate reality about endless election conspiracies. The Book Reports Milley made two backchannel calls to chinas top general to reassure him that the u. S. Was not considering a strike and instructed topmilitary officials not to take orders from anyone, including the then president , unless milley was involved. And thats got some crying foul. I dont think theres any doubt that at a minimum, he should be fired if this is true. The former president going on News Max today. News Max Excuse me to claim that that is treason. President biden defending general milley today. Sir, did general milley do the right thing, sir, in your opinion . Thank you. Thank you. Lets go. I have great confidence in general milley. But it apparently wasnt just the chairman of the Joint Chiefs who was concerned about the then president s mental state. The book dedetails a private Call Mccarthy had with trump before Joe Bidens inauguration. Mccarthy saying, quote, i dont know whats happened to you in the last two months. You are not the same as you were the last four years. Now, look. None of us is in the position to speak to the former president s Mental Health. Did you hear that . Before you play the sound bytes on the Propaganda Networks and other. None of us is in the position to speak to the former president s Mental Health but according to the Reporting And Bob woodwards and robert costas book, the top general in the country and one of the top two republicans in congress, both, had questions. And the former president s niece, mary trump, said this to chris just tonight. What must not be forgotten is that on november 7th, he suffered the worst humiliation, the worst loss of his life. It was incalculable the damage that it did to him. That as some on the right in his i dont know, they delight in making wild and completely unfounded accusations about Joe Biden. But remember, when the former president bragged about acting excuse me about acing, i should say, a Cognitive Test last year . So, its person, woman, man, camera, tv. Okay. Thats very good. If you get it in order, you get extra points. If you okay. Now, hes asking you other questions. Other questions. And then, ten minutes, 15, 20 minutes later, they say, remember the first question . Not the first but the tenth question. Give us that, again. Can you do that, again . And you go, person, woman, man, camera, tv. If you get it in order, you get extra points. He said nobody gets it in order. But then, when you go back about 20, 25 minutes later and they say go back to that they dont tell you this go back to that question and repeat em. Can you do it . And you go, person, woman, man, camera, tv. They say, thats amazing. Howd you do that . I do it because i have, like, a good memory. Because im cognitively there. You had forgotten about that, right . We actually that actually happened and we lived through it. Wow. Wow, wow, wow. Wow to this next thing, too. Gather around the tv. We have got News Tonight on the Covid Vaccine and Nikki Minaj. And this is The Truth, everybody. These are the facts. Okay . Thats what we are all about here. Facts, first. Now, you may have seen that Nikki Minaj said that she was invited to the White House after she tweeted some misinformation just a few days ago saying her cousin in trinidad, quote, wont get the vaccine because his friends got it and he became impotent and then, there was some other things that i shall not say. Trinidad and tobago knocked down that misinformation and now, a source tells me tonight that she has not been invited to the White House. So, thats a tweet. And administration officials tell cnns jeff zeleny, quote, as we have with others, we offered a call with Nikki Minaj one of our doctors to answer questions she has about safety, the Safety And Effectiveness of the vaccine. And thats a lesson in how to reach people. With facts. Not with Social Media fights. Not with Name Calling. Like i said, facts first. In this environment, we need people to step up, right . Why are you doing this story about Nikki Minaj . Nikki minaj has a fuj following. Everyone with a platform has a responsibility now. We are in the middle of a pandemic, right . This is, you know, emergency situation. Thats why i want to use this platform to make this point, okay . So listen. There is a group of people out there who have been hesitant. Even some in my own family. And Nikki Minaj has a big influence. She might be able to make a difference. I am not here to talk about Name Calling or fights on twitter. I am here to talk about meeting people where they are. Thats the only way we are only going to get through to people so i hope that Nikki Minaj does talk to those doctors. That she gets educated and through this, her fans are educated, as well. That is the best outcome for everyone. So, like i have been saying, the well of the american Electoral System has been poisoned. Poisoned by lies. So, whats the antidote to the poison . Ahead, Simone Biles and Star Gymnasts emotional testimony before the senate blasting the fbi mishandling of the Abuse Allegation or investigation of Team Usa Dr. Larry nassar. I blame Larry Nassar. And i also blame an entire system that enabled and perpetrated his abuse. [uplifting music playing] i had a dream that someday i would just fly, fly away welcome to allstate. Where you can pay a little less and enjoy the ride a little more. Now, get new lower Auto Rates with allstate. Because better protection costs a whole lot less. Youre in good hands with allstate. Click or call for a lower Auto Rate today. Have you ever sat here and wondered couldnt i do this from home . With letsgetchecked, you can. Its virtual care with Home Health Testing and more. All from the comfort of. Here. Letsgetchecked. Care can be this good. Thats a nice truck. Yeah, its the Chevy Silverado. Check out this multiflex tailgate. Multiflex, huh . Wow. It becomes a step. Mom, dads flexing again. Thats not all. 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If the well has been poisoned so much, what is the antidote . Well first, i think the american public needs to clearly understand who poisoned it and how they poisoned it because in order to confront the poison or have an antidote to the poison, you got to know where it came from or where the pollution to the river of democracy is sourced from. And i think thats really important and and it is whether people on the gop or the Dems Side think democracy is under attack and its fragile and all of that. We all need to understand it is the gop, primarily through lying and deception and various things including what happened in the last election and actually throughout the trump presidency, is they are the source of it. And so, in order to confront that truth is the best antidote for where we are today but we have a segment of the population that seems unwilling to hear that truth. Is that why people are fighting Tooth And Nail not to have The Truth of the country and the history taught in schools because they want to live in a delusion . Well, you know, it its funny, don, because you know this with people you interact with. There is a natural human tendency, which is called confirmation bias, which is to seek out information that confirms your own bias and ignore information that makes you uncomfortable. Which is why we hardly ever have Race Conversation because it makes certain people uncomfortable to have the conversation because they have to confront their own biases and their own prejudices. Right . Yeah, yeah, exactly because they have to confront what their what their history is. And the same is true here. So, people i mean, we have a whole group of people that all they watch is Fox News or own or one of those other crazy outlets and they just receive information thats not factual. Thats not truthful. And it confirms their biases and it gets worse and worse and worse. And thats the situation were dealing with, don, is that we have a segment of the population that seems unwilling. But, you know, i actually give im actually sad for them because the the theyre the victims of this because theyre being lied to. Right. They are being lied to by leaders. And when the Leader Somebody lies to you, they dont respect you. And thats the thing i want most republicans to understand and most people that back trump is these people dont have any respect for you, at all. Because if somebodys not willing to tell you The Truth, they dont respect you. I 300 , yes, amen, youre right. So, lets talk about all these restrictive Voting Laws that are being put into place across the country by gop lawmakers and the Big Lie continues to be promoted a year after the 2020 election almost. Meanwhile, Voting Rights Bills are being slow walked in congress. Isnt this asymmetrical warfare at the Ballot Box . I mean, shouldnt there be more Urgency And Action from democrats on this . I know that you think this is the most important issue, i think, right now other than covid facing our democracy . Well, its way more i actually think its way more important than covid because ultimately, well get through covid. And well well figure this out. It may its taking longer than any of us want but the attacks on our democracy and whats happened on Voting Rights goes to the core of who we are because once thats undermined, then there is no way to fix that. Then, you collapse as a democracy, as a constitutional democracy. And texas, as you know, where i am today. One thing people ought to understand. Texas in the 90s Texas In The 90s was ranked 14th on ease of voting. Texas today is ranked 50th on ease of voting. So, where every other part of our lives you can you know, docusign a 500,000 loan on a house from your in your bathrobe. You can transfer any amount of money from your living room. But for some reason, the technology and making it easier to for people to vote and make it easier for people to access the Ballot Box is something that we still are struggling with. And to me, voting is the only possible way that the american public is given as an individual. They Cant Hire lobbyists, don. They cant do all of the other things wealthy people do. The only thing they have to hold people accountable is the vote. And when thats restricted or thats made harder, it means it makes it easier for politicians to not be held accountable. And i think democrats one thing ive criticized them on is they have not dealt with this like its a fivealarm fire. They need to deal with this like its a fivealarm fire. They can pass all the Infrastructure Stuff they want and do all the other things that they want. If they let democracy collapse, it all doesnt matter. Thats why we love having you. Because you tell The Truth. Facts, first. And by the way, youre right about the ease of voting and what you can do. You know, now you know, i sit in my kitchen and i checks. I cant believe people still send checks, right . Um, and i deposit them. And then, people laugh at me because they are like, youre still writing checks, old man . Like, whats wrong with you . You are still carrying cash because everyone is doing Zell Or Venmo or whatever. And nobody its old school. We can figure out how to do that. You can buy a house online, right, or a car. Why cant we figure out how to vote . Or figure out to make it easier. Absolutely. If voting is so important, we ought to make it as easy as possible for people to do. Yeah. Just make it clear, didnt say necessarily voting online but we should make it easy for people to do. Thank you so much. So stunning testimony from Olympic Gym Ennasts on Capitol Hill. Athletes trying to hold back tears as they blame the fbi for ignoring their pleas in the investigation of dr. Larry nassar and top Fbi Brass agreeing with them. [swords clashing] had enough . No. Arthritis. Here. New aspercreme arthritis. Full prescriptionstrength . Reduces inflammation . Thank the gods. Dont thank them too soon. Kick pain in the aspercreme. Introducing xfinity rewards. Our very own way of thanking you just for being with us. Enjoy rewards like Movie Night specials. Xfinity mobile benefits. And exclusive experiences, like the chance to win tickets to see watch what happens live. Hey its me. The longer youve been with us. The more rewards you can get. Like sharpening your Cooking Skills with a top chef. Join for free on the Xfinity App and watch all the rewards float in. Our thanks. Your rewards. Attorney general Merrick Garland set to appear before a Senate Committee next month and its likely the first chance lawmakers will get to question him about the fbis botched investigation of Larry Nassar, thats the former doctor for the usa Gymnastics Team. Now, behind bars for Sexual Assault. Olympic gymnasts who were abused by him testifying today. And tearing into the fbi for mishandling the allegations brought against nassar. More tonight from cnns jean casarez. They had legal, legitimate evidence of child abuse, and did nothing. I felt pressured by the fbi to consent to nassars plea deal. I blame Larry Nassar. And i, also, blame an entire system. Why . Why would the Fbi Agents lie to oig investigators . Reporter Makayla Ma Row think, aly raisman, Simone Biles, and members of the olympics united states Gymnastics Team giving emotional testimony. Ripping the fbi for failing to protect them from their Sexual Abuser. I was so shocked at the Agents Silence and disregard for my trauma. It was like serving innocent children up to a pedophile on a silver platter. Reporter One By one, the Decora Decorated Gymnasts told their stories, recounting the years of abuse by Larry Nassar. The formerusa Gymnastics Team doctor. I sit before you today to raise my voice so that no little girl must endure what i, the athletes at this table, and the countless others who needlessly suffered under Nassars Guise of medical treatment which we continue to endure today. That evening, i was naked, completely alone with him on top of me, molesting me for hours. I told them i thought i was going to die that night because there was no way that he would let me go. He turned out to be more of a pedophile than he was a doctor. Reporter nassar is currently serving a 40to175year State Prison sentence after 150 women and girls came forward to expose he abused them over the course of 20 years. But todays congressional hearing, a result of the scathing report from the justice Departments Inspector Generals Office, revealing fbi officials investigating the allegations against nassar made false statements and failed to properly document complaints by the accusers at the time. Not only did the fbi not report my abuse but when they, eventually, documented my report 17 months later, they made entirely false claims about what i said. Reporter one Fbi Agent already fired, michael langman, according to the Washington Post. Interviewed maroney in 2015 about her allegations of Sexual Abuse by nassar, and is accused of failing to launch a proper investigation. Langman declined to comment, as did the fbi and the inspector Generals Office to the paper. The Fbis Handling of the Nassar Case is a stain on the bureau. Reporter Fbi Director Christopher Wray who did not lead the bureau at the time, also, being grilled today. What am i missing here . This man is on the loose molesting children and it appears that its being lost in the paperwork of the agency. I share your bewilderment. I share your outrage. And and i dont have a good explanation for you. Reporter Wray Apologizing to the victims and vowing to do more. Its my commitment to you that i and my entire senior Leadership Team are going to make damn sure everybody at the fbi remembers what happened here in heartbreaking detail. Reporter jean casarez, cnn, Capitol Hill. All right, jean casarez, thank you very much. The Fbi Director says that he will do more. But what did the doj do when they discovered the false statements and misleading and mishandling of their agents . No Ink Ugh I Need You to print, I Need You. You think youre empty . Im empty. Do you suffer from Cartridge Conniptions . Be conniptionfree, thanks to the Cartridgefree Epson Ecotank printer. A ridiculous amount of ink youre mocking me. Not again the epson ecotank. Just fill chill. Hey google. Every single day, were all getting a little bit better. Were better cooks. Better neighbors. Hi. Ive got this until you get back. Better parents. And better friends. No no thats why comcast works around the clock constantly improving americas largest gigspeed broadband network. And just doubled the capacity here. How do things look on your end . Perfect because were building a better network every single day. Shocking testimony on Capitol Hill today. We played some of it before the break. Fbi admits to botched investigation a botched investigation of Larry Nassar. The sexual Assault Case there. Top usa gymnasts squarely pointing a finger at the institutions that enabled the abuse to continue. I want to bring in now, the Formerfbi Assistant Director of the criminal investigative Division And Laura coates, cnn senior legal analyst and formerfederal prosecutor. Good evening to both of you. Thank you so much for joining. Um, chris, lets see. Lets start with the ig report. Saying that the agents involved betrayed their Law Enforcement responsibilities and their duties to these victims. The Indianapolis Fbi Field office first learned that there were allegations against nassar from three three gymnasts but they only spoke to one. It was by phone. Raisman said it took 14 months for the fbi to speak to her. It it its frankly almost unbelievable. I mean, what went wrong . You know the fbi. What went wrong here . Don, this is as bad as it can get. You know, as Chris Wray said today on The Hill as he testified, he had no explanation for it. I mean, not only did they do no investigation despite receiving credible allegations from the victims and the committee, itself. They they lied about it and covered it up. And then, on top of that, the Special Agent in charge in indianapolis was applying for a job and and trying to show for a job with the oliympic committee at the very same time. And in those 14 months, dozens and dozens of of young victims were were at the hands of the predator, nassar. So, don, i cant explain it. I have had some personal experience with the fbi where if a matter is reported and ive and ive actually done that, myself. Reported different activities to the fbi that were pretty serious crimes. If its not counterterrorism, if its not counterintelligence or cyber, they seem very lethargic in getting off the ground. They seem to be hyperfocused on those three things and they seem to let other things fall by the wayside. Um, laura, i know you. And i see that look on your face. You are not happy with this. I want to play something thats tough to hear. Okay . This is maroney speaking about what some of the fbi did about what happened to her. Well play it, and then well hear from laura. Here it is. I then told the fbi about tokyo. The day he gave me a Sleeping Pill for the Plane Ride to then work on me later that night. That evening, i was naked, completely alone, with him on top of me, molesting me for hours. I told them i thought i was going to die that night because there was no way that he would let me go. But he did. I told them i walked the halls of Tokyo Hotel at 2 00 a. M. At only 15 years old. I began crying at the memory over the phone and there was just dead silence. I was so shocked at the Agents Silence and disregard for my trauma, after that minute of silence, he asked, is that all . Its absolutely shocking, laura. When you look at how these girls were ignored, what does that signal to them and Everyone Else who is trying to get justice in the face of such ugly abuse . I mean, its absolutely shocking and its disgusting. And she had that question later on. With saying whats the point of reporting it if nothings going to be done essentially . Or its going to be buried in some way or someones going to be selfinterested enough to try to get a job out of it. The idea of saying at all really indicates it wasnt in that persons mind, sufficient enough to warrant even a Telephone Call to a Law Enforcement counterpart in michigan . I mean, thats shocking to me. As a prosecutor, i have prosecuted Sex Offenses and i have prosecuted them on behalf of young people. And let me tell you, the actions of the fbi and their delayed investigations actually, probably compromised, likely, the later prosecution of Larry Nassar because now you have a Jury Pool or a judge who doesnt understand why there was a delay. Was it because the Fbi Agent did not find the person credible . Was there some reason why they looked at what they said and said, oh, is that all . Is there something to this that makes a Jury Question . That little seed of doubt is all you need to tank a case. And so, you think about all the Domino Effects of what they have done and the indifference, not only in the Court Of Public Opinion among potential and also actual victims of this person but also what it does when you try to prosecute and a prosecutor does make the decision to prosecute the person. Now, this person is serving decades in prison. But thats because a judge looked at the evidence, saw the sentence, and it really belies what the investigators did which was nothing, it seems. You know, chris, one of the fbi one of the Fbi Agents involved in this was fired within the last few weeks. And the other is now retired. But doj didnt bring charges against them last year or this year. Shouldnt they be charged . As a former prosecutor, as a former agent, Fbi Agent, i say yes. I read the statutes that applied. And i i the inspector general, himself, has no authority to prosecute. He had to refer it over to other parts of the justice department. But i i see 1,001 violation here. Lying to the fbi and the inspector general. There is a criminal Conflict Of Interest on the part of the Special Agent in charge, jay abbott. There there are other you know, just malfeasance, in general. But those are the two criminal prosecutions that i think should have been brought forth by the justice department. Im shocked that they didnt. Thats how you deter this kind of conduct. Well, laura, i can see that you agree with that. You think they should be prosecuted . I do think that there should be accountability and in a form thats meaningful to these these victims and for future victims and as my colleague talked about, to deter this behavior. If the fbi is going to be able to ask for prosecution of people who lie to them, misrepresent facts, and knowingly do so, then they have to be held to the same standard. Otherwise, there is no integrity in the fbi. There is no credibility. There is no trust. And that cannot have a Functioning Fbi in our country if thats the case. Thank you, both. I appreciate it. Unfortunately, we will be discussing this. A case that should have been handled already. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Coverage of todays hearing may have elicited strong emotions for some people. That is especially if you or should not you know is dealing with the aftermag of Sexual Assault there are organizations that can help. And their information is up on the screen now. Well leave it up for a moment. And we will be right back. I want. 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