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Some protesters to be armed. New Security Fencing is set to go back up. This is a dangerous and pivotal point in american history. Trump not only insisted he won in 2020, his lies made millions of americans doubt the u. S. Election system. He relentlessly pressured local Election Officials and the Department Of Justice to help reverse the results of the election, and when that did not work, his supporters turned to changing Voting Laws across the country. To talk about how dangerous this is, again, for the foundation of the democracy, you have to look at the entire scope of actions here by the former president , his Inner Circle and also republican politicians who are believers in these lies. Heres cnn senior investigative correspondent, drew griffin. Cnn spoke to a Dozen State and county officials involved in elections for this special report. Many of them republicans themselves. They all expressed concerns about the future of the united states, that Donald Trumps Big Lie could change this nation forever. Donald trumps attempt to subvert the election started long before anyone voted. Were not going to lose this, except if they cheat. Continued on election night. We want all voting to stop. Sparked and attempted insurrection. We fight like hell. As disgraceful as trumps public words were, behind the scenes, trump and his Inner Circle were using all the powers of the president ial office to cheat, not to stop the steal, but to start it. It was an attempt to undermine the will of the people. It was profoundly antidemocratic, and potentially criminal. The 45th President Of The United States tried to coerce the Department Of Justice to lie on his behalf while also strong Arming State and local Election Officials to overthrow the election. Theres Tno Question that Ou Democracy is at a breaking point. Reporter in the weeks following following the election, trump and his Inner Circle would wage a high pressure campaign. Hello francis, how are you . Hello Brad And Ryan and everybody. Bill, its rudy giuliani. 30 contacts between trump and republican officials in crucial states, georgia, michigan, pennsylvania, and arizona. This is the white House Operator. I was out to dinner with friends, and a Phone Call came in from washington, d. C. Of a number i did not recognize. Clint hickman, a Trump Supporter who was then the chair of the Maricopa County Board of supervisors couldnt believe it. I was calling to let you know that the president is available to take your call if youre free. Hickman let The Call go to Voice Mail, days later, the white House Operator called back. Hickman, again, refused to pick it up. Obviously i thought it was going to be something to do with election and operations and i was not prepared to talk about that. The governor of arizona had certified it, the Attorney General of arizona, the Secretary Of State had certify it had. Reporter records now revealed dozens of Text Messages and multiple Phone Calls from the white house, from rudy giuliani, and also the head of arizonas republican party. I just talked to President Trump and he would like me to talk to you. Reporter trying to put pressure on the Maricopa County republican supervisors to intervene in a free and fair election that Joe Biden won. Supervisor Bill Gates believes it was an attack on the constitution. I saw that a Voice Mail had popped up. It was just unbelievable to hear, you know, instantly i knew who it was. I knew that voice, you know, rudy giuliani, americas mayor. Bill, its rudy giuliani, President Trumps lawyer. I have a few things i would like to talk over with you. Maybe we can get this thing fixed up. Reporter the Maricopa County Board of supervisors had just received this subpoena demanding election Officials Hand over millions of ballots to state republican politicians who were launching fraud investigations. He wanted us to turn over the ballots as soon as possible, so that the State Senate could get to work. Reporter get to work doing . One of the Object Iives was get their hands on the ballot before the January 6th hearing in the capitol. They wanted evidence to support dese dese decertifying the election. Its constitution dammed. One of the main reasons i became republican was because i thought the republican party was the party of the rule of law. Reporter in michigan, a Wayne County republican official voted to certify the election, and changed her mind after a call from Donald Trump. I have provided them with a copy of my affidavit rescinding my vote. Reporter in georgia, trump not only called the states top elections investigator. Whatever you can do, francis. Reporter but in what now is being investigated as a possible crime, trump tried to convince Georgias Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to change the vote count. Theres nothing wrong with saying that, you know, that youve recalculated. It seems clearer and clearer that trump was actually trying to steal the election. He was actually trying to create conditions where he would be declared the winner even though he actually lost the election. It is incredibly dangerous and destabilizing. Reporter and perhaps most t dangerous of all, President Trump even tried to use the united States Department of justice to pull off his attempted coup. In the notes of a Phone Call now handed over to congressional investigators, trump told his acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen and his deputy, Richard Donahue just say that the election was corrupt, leave the rest to me and the r congressmen. Both men refused trumps request, and both have testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee chaired by senator dick durbin. What was the most shocking to you . Just how directly personally involved the president was, the pressure he was putting on Jeffrey Rosen. It was real. Very real. And it was very specific. Trump tried to Pressure Rosen to file a lawsuit in the supreme court, to declare that the Electoral College votes Cast Cannot Be counted. His Chief Of Staff was repeatedly emailing top d. O. J. Officials at least five times asking they investigate Conspiracy Theories about Voter Fraud. Its an attempt to use the Department Of Justice in order to influence the election thats run at the state and local level. So its dangerous. Its inappropriate, and it should be unacceptable. Reporter and trump had been secretly working with someone inside the Department Of Justice, an official from the environmental division named J Jeffrey Clark who was pushing allegations of Voter Fraud despite all the evidence against it. Clark urged his bosses to sign a letter to Georgias Governor containing a lie. It falsely claimed the Justice Department identified significant concerns that may have impacted the outcome of the election. And advised the governor to convene in special session. Acting Attorney General rosen and the Deputy Ag Donahue said no. The country came very close to a coup. Reporter it was the violence of the insurrection on January 6th that finally ended trumps plans to prevent the certification of Joe Biden as president. Yet, with no proof, with no facts, with no evidence at all that fraud played any role in his defeat, trump has convinced his base of support that the Electoral System of the united states is corrupt. Former republican New Jersey Oregon Christine Todd Whitman who started a group to safeguard u. S. Democracy says this is a threat to the country. Abraham lincoln said if this government falls, it will fall from within, and we have to remember those things because it can. It could happen. One thing that Bill Gates, that Maricopa County supervisor told me, if it werent for republicans willing to risk their careers for standing up for whats right, there might have been a very different outcome, and some of those Elections Officials are dealing with threats to their very lives. John. Drew griffin, thank you very much for that report. Its remarkable when you lay it out like that in such vivid detail. Joining us now, cnn national affairs analyst, kasie hunt, and Alyssa Ferret that left because of the Election Lie people were spewing. Its important what drew Laid Out, not just as a matter of history to understand what happened and how close this country came to imminent disaster but also because its not over. Theres a California Recall election, and Donald Trump and Larry Elder are saying its rigged before the votes are in. Theres a protest planned for saturday in defense of the January 6th insurrectionists. Our entire system of government is predicated on all sides of the aisle with a variety of political beliefs buying into the idea that we can have a system where we elect people, and we agree afterward that those chosen people are the one who are in charge and who have power, and former President Trump started doing this sort of thing immediately as he got into Office Raising questions about reporting about him on a variety of fronts and it is really stunning to see it all Laid Out that way. It was just Laid Out, and i just have to say, those local Election Officials, they are heroes, being able to stand up, absolutely not, are you going to mess with something that i know is credible, that i know is true, and alyssa, i know, her B Boss was in the capitol during that insurrection and the former president was so committed to this lie that he was willing to literally jeopardize the Safety And Security of mike pence, his Vice President , and that, i think is something that, you know, the republican party is obviously still grappling with it, theyre still this the throes of it, and were going to see more of it when we cover the recall returns coming in. The logical answer, what members of congress should have dOne On both sides of the aisle was to see the danger that that posed, but thats not what you see happening. This continues to be perpetuated. You mentioned the Hole Election officials. Some of them have been neutered by these Voting Laws. So the lesson was exactly the reverse. It seemed to be for republicans that actually, hey, this may work for us. And when you ask republicans in the most recent ssrs poll how important is believing trump won 2020 to being a republican . Very important or somewhat important . 59 , so 6 in 10, as berman often says, this is now foundation to the gop. How problematic is that . Its extremely problematic, and its more or less going to be a litmus test. You see some of the folks running. The former president is endorsing against people who voted for impeachment or who did not uphold the myth, so hes endorsing against Fred Upton, for example, in michigan, in favor of somebody who wants to carry on this lie, and i hate to put it in politically crass terp terms, but for the 2022 majority, we think is going to go to republicans in the house. You have to say, what do you want that majority to look like because youre going to be electing a lot of people, if we go with the trump endorsees, who are supporting the Big Lie. I have been trying to ring the alarm for quite some time. Now is the time to speak up. Lets put this behind us, acknowledge the election was lost, and not carry on the myth. Were seeing it with Larry Elder. This past week President Trump said that the election might still be descertified. Thats a terrible reality, and im concerned about september 8th. Im glad the capitol is taking precautions, and hopefully that wont be anything like January 6 l its scary. We were watching together drews piece, piecing together what happened. You were there for part of it, not all of it. You left. You had had enough. Whats it like to see that now . Its odd. I have worked in politics for a long time. Losing is part of politics. Winning is part of politics. And its part of our democracy, we accept it when we lose. We came up short. We knew we didnt win so to say this last minute scramble, most of after i was left, its beneath who we are as a country, and its going to have repercussions. I think we can expect going forward its not just going to be Donald Trump. Its going to be whoever the next iteration of him is that is going to say they didnt lose. It was stolen. It was rigged. And people believe it. Thats the scary point. Thats the Challengement Adam Kinzinger is two members of congress willing to speak out, the other being liz cheney. And the point he makes over and over again is leaders have to stand up and lead and what has happened is that republicans, and this poll shows this very clearly, are consuming information thats being driven, misinformation, Disinformation By Former president Donald Trump, and republicans, this number, this 59 who believe trump won in 2020 is why republicans are so afraid that they cannot win a primary if they dont buy into this. But theyre not willing to stand up and say no, this isnt true. Theyre not willing to go in there and actually do it day in and day out. Kinzinger is going to go home. Theres a lot of democrats there. Its a different landscape that other republicans face but he says, look, my colleagues are not willing to do this. Theyre not willing to do what it takes to Step Up and to lead, and if we dont have republicans doing that, all theyre left with is this disinformation thats being driven by the former president. I was speak to go one member of congress who raised concerns with a colleague who he considered to be a trust worthy republican partner but who was buying into the Big Lie at least publicly, and that member of congress said do you want someone besides me, this is what i was told, do you want someone besides me, do you want someone who actually really believes the Big Lie who isnt essentially just trumpeting it. What does that say to you . It feels cowardly on the one hand, on the other hand, theres potentially truth to it because of the way the districts are drawn. If there is someone in a more moderate lane of Fred Upton in michigan who decides theyre going to stand, and the voters throw them out, the republican nominee is something else. Thats a swing district, a democrat may win there. Other places thats not the case, its always going to be held by a republican, and that potentially pushes it off the edge. There is, i think, a certain level of cowardice with doing it that way. Its essentially choosing winning over principle, and you saw some republicans during the Trump Administration Step up in the Middle And Rtry to criticiz him, and they fell one by one, jeff flake, bob corker, the list goes on, and were left here. And i think, too, for me watching all of this, oh, our system is going to hold, its going to be fine. Were listening to this entertainer whos out there essentially entertaining america, and i was at the capitol January 6th and it became extraordinarily real, and the more we learned about that, it could have been so much worse than it was, and were facing another potential incident like this on saturday as a man is arrested with White Supremacist symbols and weapons in a truck outside the Democratic National Committee Down The Street from the capitol. When you line all of those facts up, its astonishing that this is america today. Trump rewrote the game. Its not history. Its now. Its today with the California Recall. Its happening before our eyes. Its 2022. Its 2024. Its very difficult to see how we get out of this and navigate successfully. On a debate stage, if anyone decides to challenge President Trump who i think we can agree is running again. I can imagine this is a raise your hand moment, was Biden Elected and a lot of folks running are not going to admit it. Who are the republicans who have courage to say, of course we lost the election, lets win legitimately this time. Chris christie was willing to say that. Except not say trumps name. Dont do Debate Prep with him. Donald trumps lies have convi convinced so many people that there was major voting fraud. Election officials have been threatened, harassed just for doing their jobs. Listen to this Voice Mail. You rigged my. [ bleep ] election you [ bleep ] were coming for you claire. I hope you get whats coming to you, you fraudulent [ bleep ] its frightening, its real. Vaccine scientists, debating the need for Booster Shots for the general population. Si acelero no Me Paran El Viento Pega En Mi Cara Estoy Brillando con Mi Drip Drip Una Luz que no se apaga go with Simparica Trio its triple protection made simple Simparica Trio is the first and only monthly chewable that covers heartworm disease, ticks and fleas, round and hookworms. 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In milwaukee, elections executive Director Claire Woodall vogue has been bombarded by hate, ever since an extremist right wing web site, published lies about her. You rigged my fucking election, you fucking piece of hit, were going to try you and hang you. Were coming for you claire. I really sincerely hope you get whats coming to you you fraudulent fuck. What was your immediate reaction to what was on that machine . Its frightening there are crazy people out there. While it might just be them blowing off steam, its clear they believe it, and only someone who truly believed it would act on it. How many threats do you think you have gotten . I think over 150. 150 threats . Yes, i received a letter, very colorful language to my home, which did make me very frightened in that i have a threemonthold and a 4yearold to think about, and all because i did my job, and made sure that all of the city of milwaukees ballots were counted. What did that letter say . Am i allowed to tell you the Swear Words on camera. It said, you are a fraudulent. [ bleep ] the common thread is no one has respect for women in the world. What happened in milwaukee is happening all across the country. In next, republican Bill Gates and fellow supervisors faced their own threats every single day. Just last friday my colleagues and i all were treated to an orange Jump Suit that a Gentleman Sent to us, and you know, declared that we will end up in Jail Someday because we are traitors in the minds of these people. This could lead to a damaging loss of experienced professionals who know how to conduct elections. A report from the Brennan Center For Justice found one in three Election Officials feel unsafe because of their job. Matt masterson was the lead cyber Security Adviser for the department of Homeland Security in the 2020 election. And says its all creating an alarming situation. Local Election Officials are going to leave. And then that opens the door to adding less professional, more political actors into the election space, which again is incredibly dangerous. Woodall vogue says shes staying but she closed the Elections Office until she can beef up security. It made me really concerned how powerful Conspiracy Theories have become that my job would become dangerous. That Election Administrator now in our very well established democracy has lots of checks and balances is now a dangerous profession. The Danger Isnt just the obvious threat of violence, but the threat to democracy. Experts say Donald Trump and his republican allies have injected enough doubt into the Election Process to threaten its stability. Its going to be a selffulfilling prophesy. He is undermining the system in a way that is going to cause the system to detieriorate. Some republicans are undermining the system with new unnecessary legislation. Across the united states republican State Lawmakers are passing law after law, aimed at fixing a problem that does not exist. Mass Voter Fraud. This bill, ill say it one more time will make it easier to vote and harder to cheat in pennsylvania. Easy to vote, and hard to cheat. In arizona, we want to make it easy to vote, but hard to cheat. At least 18 states have enacted 31 laws with new restrictions on Voting Methods since the beginning of the year. The most concerning are being called Election Subversion laws. Impacting how elections are run, and whos in charge. They didnt like the fact that they lost those states, and so now theyre rewriting the rules for the future, but theyre doing it in a way that will make it extremely problematic because they make it very partisan. Former new Jersey Governor Christine todd whitman, a republican, is part of a group working to safeguard u. S. Democracy. What you have with local official secretaries of state and others are people who are trained to oversee elections. That is their job to do that. Now what you see in the states, texas, arizona, georgia, they are starting to pull it back and put it in the hands of legislatures, political legislatures. Case in point, Georgias Election Integrity act, 98 pages long. Signed into law by governor Brian Kemp repeating that republican mantra. This pbill makes it easy to vote and hard to cheat. It strips power from the Georgia Secretary of state and allows lawmakers to intervene in how counties administer and count the vote. Sounds like it makes it easier for the politicians to cheat. You could have that perception. Youre going to have your i. D. With him. Herd county georgias elections supervisor. I believe its a massive Power Grab. The Secretary Of State has been removed as a Voting Member of the state election board. Basically tossing the Secretary Of State aside for a political person. Exactly. Reporter in arizona, republican legislators have made their Power Grab blatant, passing a law that strips some Election Oversight powers from the Arizona Secretary of state, currently a democrat and gives them to the arizona Attorney General currently a republican. It expires in less than two years, making sure its a republican who oversees any disputes in the important midterm elections. Gates says his partys Big Lie about Vote Fraud is getting way out of hand. Im worried about the people who look at this now, they have listened to their leaders, republican leaders, and they are now convinced that our system is corrupt. That theres this large conspiracy and we have yet to see many republicans speak out, and tell people, no, the election was fair. Its time to move on. Enough is enough. In texas, which trump won, republican legislators pass Add Law that bans drive through and 24hour Voting favored in heavil heavily minority houston, and creates new hurdles for mailin voters. The Texas Legislation also makes it a crime for election workers to interfere with partisan poll watchers. Were at a Tipping Point as a nation, and our democracy is at stake. Democratic legislators like Carl Sherman fled the state, trying to prevent a vote on the bill. The standoff ended after 38 days. It matters because weve got a long history of Cherry Picking who can vote, and who can not vote. If all of these Election Laws being surfaced in republican led states seem like a coordinated effort, thats because it is. We have honed in on these eight specific focused states. A former Trump Administration Official who now heads up the conservative Heritage Action for america said the group had made recommendations to several states, which ended up in election related bills. From there as we create the echo chamber, were working with State Legislators to make sure they have the information they need to draft the bills or we have a sentinel on our bhehalf. Give them the model legislation. It has the Grass Roots from the Bottom Up type of vibe. Donald trumps Big Lie, and hi Partys Willingness to go along with the facade is now the biggest threat to free and fair elections we face. It used to be unthinkable to contemplate Election Subversion in the united states. It is now not only become thinkable but something we need to spend the next few years guarding against. Its greatest danger facing american democracy today. Its dangerous, john, because its destabilizing according to the Election Officials and experts we talked to. A democracy depends on the losers agreeing that the election was conduct instead a fair way, and agreeing to fight another day. If you dont have that acceptance, you dont have democracy, and right now with Donald Trump and his followers dwoe, we dont have that. Dangerous for the country and dangerous for a lot of individuals involved. Drew griffin, thank you so much for your reporting. Joining me is al schmidt, the republican, Philadelphia City commissioner. He oversaw the 2020 election there. Al, always great to speak with you, commissioner. Look, we spoke a few times, but as the votes were still being counted in pennsylvania. And in philadelphia, where you were, and you at the time said you saw no evidence of Mass Fraud there. What was the impact of that comment from you . What did people then say to you after you refused to say that this election was stolen . Immediately after that interview, the president tweeted at me by name, referring to me as a rhino, saying that i was being used and refusing to look at Voter Fraud in philadelphia. Of course there was no widespread Voter Fraud in philadelphia. But thats really what led to a series of Death Threats and, you know, efforts to coerce. Death threats and efforts to coerce, not just, i imagine you, but also your family . Right. I mean, this rhetoric, these threats that were all too familiar with, and unfortunately, as you know, and your Report Shows and the brennan Center Report shows, im not unique at all. Its going on across the country. But the rhetoric is an empty rhetoric, it has a purpose, and that purpose is resulting in good, professional fair minded election fishes across the country not running for reelection or being defeated by people who have partisan political intelligences to disrupt or discredit legitimate election results. What happens then . What happens if the civics minded people get pushed out . Well, i mean, thats the big danger is that if people who intentionally want to discredit fair and free elections are successful, when a majority of my party believes that the election was stolen, believes that when we lose its because the election was rigged, its really left to just one party right now to uphold the democratic process. If that falls and it goes from a majority of a party to a majority of americans, then i think thats an even greater danger. Im afraid were facing that right now. Republicans in your state are trying to launch a 2020 Election Audit of sorts. Whats your feeling about that . Well, as a former Senior Auditor for the federal government, the gio, i have very strong feelings about it in really that what has been discussed isnt an audit at all, its a partisan political enterprise and as an Election Administrator, that concerns me greatly as well because its really not about finding answers. Its really about trying to discredit the fair election results, and i would add that since we have been discussing threats, you know, those threats really spiked around election time leading up to certification, they go away, but whenever this talk of audits and bringing to other states what has happened in arizona occurs, the threats resume as they have here in philadelphia with my fellow commissioners and i. Al schmidt, republican, Philadelphia City commissioner. I have to say, being an Election Official is not a job that you require hazard pay, but at this point, it might. Appreciate what you do. Thank you, sir. New covid concerns surrounding russias Vladimir Putin. We are live In Moscow, next. And new data on whos being left behind when it comes to testing and vaccines in the u. S. Ment. Visible is wireless that gets better with friends. Pay as low as 25 a month. Or bring a friend and you both get a month for 5. So the more people you roll with, the more you save. Visible. 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He has been meeting paralympians, congratulating them and awarding them after their performance at games in japan. 24 hours ago, Vladimir Putin met the syrian president , Bashar Al Assad who flew To Moscow Unannounced and they had a One On one, facetoface meeting. The Kremlin Arent saying the culprit to the potential exposure. They are saying that vladimir Putin Isnt in any danger and he has tested negative for covid19. They will probably need to test him again, matthew, i would think, right, to be sure . Yeah, i think they probably will. Theres obviously a regime thats set in place to make sure people are confirmed to having covid19 are confirmed as not having it but of course remember, brianna, russia has a massive problem with the disease. There are more than 7 Million people that have been infected. 200,000 dead, and thats the official figures want the real figures are higher than that. Thank you so much for that report from moscow. New this morning, data exclusively shared with cnn from johns hopkins university, despite the elevated risk, the black and hispanic Face Hospitalization and death, both groups are largely under represented in testing and vaccination. Joining us now, chief medical Correspondent Dr. Sanjay gupta. Tell us a little bit more about what were learning, and also why this is a big problem . Yeah, well, this is a problem thats been really going on since the beginning of the pandemic, and frankly in terms of Health Inequities long before that as well. Let me show you the numbers first of all, looking at the exact of this disease, cases, hospitals, and deaths, blacks and hispanics, 1. 1 times more likely to be diagnosed. Two times more likely to die for hispanics, the inequities are greater. What this new Data Shows is you look at that and try to match up the idea of vaccination rates, and again, you see inequities in the wrong direction. They looked at for example, in california and texas, they looked at Hispanic Population in california, and found despite these numbers, despite the case rates, 54 likelihood of cases in california, you had about 28 of the population being vaccinated. So youre not vaccinating the people who are having the highest burden of this disease. They saw this in texas as well. Again, 15 of the cases represented by blacks but only 8 of vaccinations. Its a problem. I mean, you obviously want to make sure vaccinations are widespread, but as weve talked about for so long, the people who are the most vulnerable, the most at risk certainly need to be targeted. This is new data as youre pointing out, just reporting that this morning. Hopefully thats going to lead to increased Outreach Efforts across the country. Though they are two specific places, its reflective of a much bigger problem. Theres news about boosters, and this is a discussion you have a keen interest in. Two departing fda leaders say covid19 vaccines dont show a need for boosting at this moment. What can you tell us about this, and how does this figure in with the data and the reports were getting back from israel about the boosters there . Theres a real division here, john, you and i have talked about this for a long time. Its not a Slam Dunk Decision on boosters. With vaccines overall, a slam dunk, really effective. But the idea of what exactly are you getting for your booster, should it be recommended to the general population, thats seems to be what this division is about. I think where this is heading, just cutting to the chase for a second is that the boosters are likely to be recommended for certain people, for people over a certain age, for example, already recommended for those who are immune compromised. Maybe people who are vulnerable because of age and preexisting conditions as well. Really what this comes down to is a graft you may have seen before, looking at how well the current vaccines work, which is really well. You look at hospitalizations for example, this came out of a cdc study, and what you find is that if you are unvaccinated, you are far more likely to end up with severe illness. The flat line at the bottom, that you can barely see, that is a Hospitalization Rate among the vaccinated. The unvaccinated is the line that sort of the Roller Coaster Ride on the right side of the screen, much higher likelihood, and thats always been the issue, so what these fda advisers who are leaving the agency have said, they wrote a letter along with lots of other scientists, basically saying theres not enough evidence across the board to recommend boosters. Maybe for certain people. They also bring up the idea that look, if youre going to start boosting people, and this is going to be a regular thing, should it be specific to the variant, kind of like the Flu Shot changes every year, should they be doing that for the Covid Vaccine as well. Whats the right time frame here, is this a yearly thing . I think they basically thought this was happening without enough data to sort of support it across the board. Sanjay i hate to go there, but one, we think its important to Debunked Disinformation especially when it comes to people with huge social media followings, and two, i think i drew the short straw here, this is the question, Rapper Nicki Minaj says her Cousins Friend, and she put this on social media, she has 22 Million followers, she says he has swollen testicles after taking the vaccine. She cited that actually as one of the reasons that she has yet to be vaccinated. She claims shes not against the vaccine but says she wants to do more rcesearch. What do you say to that, sanjay. Her Cousins Friends who has orkitis, which is the medical term for swollen testicles, i have No Doubt this is something that happened to the individual, and i have No Doubt that its related to the vaccine. Thats the thing, you get a lot of people out there who has these, youve got 32 of the country vaccinated, youre going to have people who have C Concominant issues with the vaccine, that are not related to the vaccine. Thats not a thing. Thats not something to worry about. In terms of Fertility Issues thats a misconception since the vaccine rolled out. Theres different reasons that became a misconception, theres plenty of research out there. The Journal Of The American Medical Association looked specifically at Fertility Issues and didnt find Fertility Issues. You have 200 Million people who have received the shots in the united states, billions of people around the world. This is not an issue. So, you know, i appreciate her wanting to do the research. Its out there. I wish her Cousins Friend well, but thats not related to the vaccine. It may be related to another type of infection that could have been prevented by a vaccine, but not the covid19 vaccine. And i think thats the serious analysis, sanjay, of what this is, if she does the research that she says she wants to do she would have found out this isnt an issue of fertility, and theres no production to orcitis. I definitely use that instead of what i said. Thank you very much. Up next, police preparing to protect the u. S. Capitol on saturday from armed right wing demonstrators. And Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasiocortez trying to send a message at a Gala Event with an elite guest list. Did it work . Get ready our most popular battery is even more powerful. The stronger, lastslonger energizer max. And there you have it woah. Wireless on the most reliable network nationwide. Wow big deal . 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Hundreds of people are planning a protest around the capitol this saturday in defense of people who were arrested in taking part in the January 6 insurrection. Law enforcement is expecting counter protesters to show up as well. They are preparing for some of the people at this event to possibly be armed. That is according to a source who is part of a briefing on preparations. The possibility of violence brought on the preparation. The fence put up after January 6 going back up. The Capitol Police, rather, will be able to deputize law enforce the officers as something they desperately needed on January 6, but we know came too late. They are clearly trying to be better prepared than they were on that horrible day especially given there is online chatter surrounding this event. Capitol Police Tom Majorer said we are here to protect everyones first Amendment Right to protest. We will enforce the law and not tolerate violence. His announcement came not long after police arrested a California Man near the Democratic National Committee headquarters. They said he had a bay net, a machete in his truck which was covered in White Supremacist symbols. This is just another example of why Capitol Police are not taking chances this saturday. The department now under new leadership promising better communication, better Intelligence Sharing with officers and other Law Enforcement agencies. Internal reviews we know had partially blamed Intelligence Sharing failures for lack of preparedness on January 6. Brianna, i think it is worth noting the Fact Tom Manger is a local guy in selecting a chief. He can round up the local Law Enforcement because he knows everybody here. That is one advantage they have going into this. This may be one of the first major tests for his administration at the police department, so well see how it shakes. But theyre not taking any chances. 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We made the right decision in not sending a third generation of americans to fight and die in afghanistan. Reporter the Secretary Of State highlighting the massive evacuation of over 124,000 people, one of the biggest airlifts in history. But with that effort, chaos during the evacuation, ultimately leading to the death of 13 u. S. Service members in an attack outside the kabul airport. Blinken saying the united states had no choice but to withdraw by bidens August 31st deadline under extreme pressure from the taliban. It made very clear if we move past that deadline, it would resume the attacks that it stopped on our forces and on our allies and partners. Reporter republicans slamming blinkens defense. You should resign. Reporter and the biden administrations handling of the pullout. This was an unmitigated disaster of epic proportions. I never thought in my lifetime that i would see an unconditional surrender to the taliban. Reporter but the top u. S. Diplomat Deflecting Blame to president Bidens Predecessor instead. We inherited a deadline, we did not inherit a plan. Reporter emphasizing the Trump Administration made the deal with the taliban in the first place, without making any plans for the withdrawal. Had the president not made good on the agreement reached by the previous administration, the attacks on our forces and partner forces would have resumed, and the offensive to take over afghanistans cities would have commenced. Reporter gop congressman Adam Kinzinger saying both the biden and the Trump Administration should share responsibility for what happened. I think its important to remind people the Trump Administration failed in the setup, and i think the biden administration absolutely failed in the execution of this. Reporter democrats also questioning how the withdrawal could have been better executed. But saying it was necessary to leave afghanistan. Are there things the administration could have done differently . Absolutely yes, as always. Reporter bungled, disgraceful epic mistakes, those are some of the words we heard yesterday from these republicans when they were talking

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