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Fashion. Elders Campaign Website now features a link to this site here that urges residents to sign a petition, quote, Demanding A Special Session of the California Legislature to investigate the twisted results of the recall the problem, there are no results yet, and there are no problems as of yet for sure. Trump treading familiar territory releasing a statement pushing baseless claims about a rigged election that, yes, hasnt even happened. Familiar or not, you Cant Brush it off. 59 of republicans they support for the lies about the last election are important to being republican. Its the price of admission. You Cant Brush it off because this saturday here in washington theres a rally planned at the capitol in support of the rioters who stormed the capitol on January 6th. A source tells Cnn Law Enforcement is preparing for forces to be armed, new Security Fencing set to go up. Police arrested a man who had a bayonet, and machete, had a swastika and other symbols painted on it. Trump seems to literally be standing up for domestic terrorism after george w. Bush gave the speech the people who attacked the capitol are children of the same foul spirit, trump put out a statement who basically said who, me. Trump did not deny it. He said bush should not be lecturing about anything, and then parentheses, trump is endorsing a qanon supportive candidate for Secretary Of State in arizona. All of this going on. Were going to start in california where there is a Recall Election with the results not even in yet, and Donald Trump and others already crying foul. Cnns dan simon in sacramento with the latest. Dan. Hey, good morning, john, that is the State Capitol behind me. That is the seat of power in the state of california, and we should note by tonight whether or not Governor Newsom will retain his office inside that building. It is worth repeating that this Recall Effort really began to gather steam during the heart of the pandemic. There was criticism over Governor Newsoms policies with respect to covid19, and that led republicans to get the 1. 5 million signatures necessary to force this on the ballot. In the wave of the delta variant, newsom and his supporters are happy to have this election framed as somebody who will follow the science, versus an outsider, someone who would loosen restrictions, which could lead to more cases and deaths. President biden laying out the stakes last night while campaigns with the governor. Take a look. This year, the leading republican running for governor is the closest thing to a Trump Clone that i have ever seen in your state. Is the clone of Donald Trump, can you imagine him being governor of the state . You cant let that happen. Of course, that is biden talking about conservative Talk Show Host larry elder, the leading contender. All of this is moot unless the recall is successful, and all of the polls show newsom cruising to victory. We shall have to see once the ballots are open. And one of newsoms top advisers saying theres no scenario in which the governor loses. Well send it back to you. Dan s simon thank you very mh for that and lets talk about this with maggie haberman, is this the new normal . Its a great question. It certainly seems to be for now. I think we have to see what other elections look like. A recall is a little different and allows people to make claims that they might not otherwise. Its hard to imagine Donald Trump would not make this claim otherwise, and its hard to imagine some candidates, i dont think all, i think there are a number of candidates who are long time politicians who are not going to see this as a road happen. There are clearly candidates who are going to use this to say, when they lose, they say this before the ballots are cast. Its not actually about the result and what it might be, its just about if they might lose, and i think there will be other instances where we see it. I dont know how seriously its going to impact future elections. As i said, republicans are turning their own turnout when they are doing this model. It almost becomes a selffulfilling prophesy. 59 of republicans in the recent Cnn Poll say that supporting the Big Lie from the 2020 election is important to being a republican now. It is foundational, john, at this moment to being a republican, not incidental, 60 . Thats is a big number. Its a big number, and the Point Off Of What Maggie said is as the republican base of support has shrunk and gotten increasingly radicalized, theyre turning away from the legitimacy of elections period. Right. Theyre turning toward force, toward authoritarianism, in some cases toward violence. Obviously that is a fringe of the party, but its a fringe thats tolerated by the wider party, and theyre leading themselves further and further. So republicans in washington tried to discourage the investigation into the January 6th insurrection. Now they are after initially being shaken by the insurrection, which of course was an assault on the democratic result, theyre treating the offenders who treated the atrocities of the capitol, as political prisoners. You say an election is rigged because you know youre going to lose the election, and the election itself is not decisive in it view, its the ability to rise up against the process. Democracy is not important because you would believe the election. Theres a through line between these absurd claims about the California Recall which isnt even done yet. Theres a through line of the protest over the shoulder, which way is the capitol. Its this way. Well done. Theres a through line between these california claims and the protests at the capitol where Law Enforcement is worried theyre going to Shoepw Up Arme at the capitol. For Donald Trump to make claims, he gets people to donate money to his political activities. We know he is using some of the political money hes raised to pay himself Rental Space for his political Action Committee at trump properties but for the republican party itself, this is about finding ways other than winning elections to assert themselves, to speak up for the cause of a segment of the white population that feels under threat. That feels the country is moving away from them, and in a disturbing number of cases that, as We Saw in the case of the guy with the Pickup Truck and the machetes at the capitol, that involves either the threat of Violence Or Something more direct and concrete than that. You know, maggie, the comments from former president george w. Bush at the Shanksville Memorial On Saturday where he said the 9 11 terrorists and the insurrections essentially are children of the same foul spirit, it was a speech that our glory said maybe the most important if not the most important speeches hes ever given, Donald Trump responded by saying that george w. Bush shouldnt be lecturing anybody. What did you think about how trump responded to bushs remarks . It was completely in character and unsurprising. He hates George Bush and the bush family. It devolved into name calling, look at the war in afghanistan, look at the overseas Eng Ent entanglements. It doesnt address the substance of what bush was saying. I think one major question i have, is it was a powerful speech. No question. I dont think it was the most important of his career but certainly up there. The question is who else is going to continue echoing this . Who else is going to keep making this kind of point . If it is a oneoff which we have seen over and over over the last six years, it is going to dissolve somewhat quickly. Donald trump knows that, which is why he issues statements like that. It may have been predictable, but also notable, given what george w. Bush said is domestic terrorism is bad, the Trump Response is oh, dont you go criticizing domestic terrorists at this point. Adam kinzinger said trump was just proving the point that Donald Trump was making. Trump didnt quite go that far in terms of saying, yes, domestic terrorism is okay but to your point, he never says, this is bad, what we have seen is terrible, it just leaves it on the page, unaddressed. Theres a Comic Touch to the president who just lost his reelection decrying the unsuccessful presidency of the guy who won reelection when he ran. All right. Lets talk about bermans favorite, which is the nexus of fashion and politics because Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasiocortez attended the Met Gala and this may be the dress that is the most remembered. On the dress it says tax the rich. Standing next to the designer who is one of the few black designers who was featured at this event. This of course, maggie, is one of the most expensive and elitist events of the year, and i wonder if you think she thread the needle here with her Message And Presence there or not . I think she did. Look, i think theres going to be an effort by republicans to say, look, i saw a lot of this last night, this is a gift to republicans in the midterms. The midterms are not going to be decided on aocs dress, first of all, but second, its unsurprising to see criticism that there she is hobnobbing with the wealthy. The message is not a popular message in the crowd. There is something risky about doing it. I think she could continue to preach to people who already agree with her or preach to people who dont, and she chose to do the latter. I would say its the opposite of hobnobbing with the wealthy and it shows the talent aoc. She has a strong belief system. Shes able to articulate the belief system. Were in this debate and Joe Manchin is out saying too big, too fast, too many taxes, and how do progressives counter that, and be aoc, she uses her Star Power to go into that venue, high profile venue, and drive a very strong message that is now on the front page of newspapers, and were talking about it on television and its precisely the point of the argument. Tax the rich. Democrats are right now, Progressive Democrats are trying to defend a menu of tax increases that biden wants to use to pay for his domestic Benefits Agenda for Climate Change, for Child Tax credits, for preschool free community college, a whole range of things, and she goes, and All Of A Sudden Focuses Attention on precisely what progressives want the message to be, and its a popular message. I think if you want to argue whether or not taxing the rich is a good policy, thats fine. Have that argument, but to be outraged that she wore that dress to the Met Gala and say its higher critical requires you to believe that Alexandria Ocasiocortez doesnt realize that the Met Gala has rich people who are hobnobbing behind closed doors. And you think she knows that . I think she might know that. Fpeople who are outraged abot it, thats how you know they were stuck by the message that it hit them because she drove something that they didnt want to be on the front page. John harwood, maggie haberman. Or its not real. Sorry, maggie, yeah. Or the outrage isnt real. Its manufactured. That could be. Sometimes that happens. Sometimes that happens. You know what, it makes me angry that you erven said that, maggie. Its polyester outrage. Njust in russian president Vladimir Putin in isolation after a Covid Outbreak in his inner circle. Well have details ahead. And well speak live to a pregnant mom whos upset the School District is not requiring exposed students to quarantine. 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Schools across the country are back in full swing now, and experts say adults should get vaccinated to protect children younger than 12 who are not eligible for the vaccine. Now, one of the only School Districts in North Carolina not to require masks in its schools when he stepped further Yesterday Voting that effective immediately, students and staff no longer have to quarantine after possible exposure to coronavirus unless they have symptoms or a positive coronavirus test. This move by the Union County Board of education has sparked outrage among some parents and teachers in the district, and im joined now by Angie Mccray whos a parent whos currently pregnant who says this decision puts not just children but the entire community at risk. Angie, thank you so much for being with us this morning. Obviously these policies being put in place are very much against the guidelines of Public Health officials in the state and at the federal level. How are you reacting to this . You know, i think like a lot of parents in my District And County are very upset with the decision they made. They took the authority on themselves to decide that we were no longer going to do Contact Tracing and effective immediately, students were to return to school that were on a current quarantine and we were no longer going to quarantine for students and staff that are not positive. Its very upsetting and disappointing. So students who are exposed but asymptomatic could end up at school, and they could still be positive and they could still spread this to other children. What is your biggest fear here . I have a first grader thats at an Elementary School in the county. Its very concerning for me. Im currently pregnant, and im concerned for my Familys Safety, and i do not want to have to Home School her again this year, and we were so excited to go back to Public School and be able to let her have somewhat of a normal education, and the School Board has just made decisions that are not logical and are affecting my family, and so many families in the county. This affects the larger community. It affects teachers, staff, students, our whole community. You are a pharmacist by trade. I know that you are practicing for 13 years, and that during the pandemic you have had to step back from that and you did Home School your daughter. Would you consider doing that again . I am considering it because i have to worry about my Familys Safety first, and i dont feel like our elected officials on the board of education are taking the Health And Safety of our students and staff seriously. They have had multiple opportunities and meetings to create a mask mandate, and they chose not to, and voted against it. And then yesterday to have an 8 to 1 vote to remove any extra layers of Protection And Mitigation that we have in Contact Tracing and Quarantine Options doesnt make any sense. Angie, im very sorry for what you and so many other parents are dealing with, and were really thankful youre speaking with us this morning. Thank you so much. Two middle schoolers in florida accused of planning a mass School Shooting inspired by columbine. Well have the details coming up. A Cnn Investigation Casting doubt on a deadly Drone Strike in afghanistan. All of the breaking details coming up. Limu Emu Doug got a couple of bogeys on your six, limu. They need customized Car Insurance from Liberty Mutual so they only pay for what they need. What do you say we see what this bird can do . Woooooooooooooo. We are not getting you a helicopter. Looks like were walking, kid. 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Well keep you ready for whats next. Comcast business powering possibilities. For the last two weeks cnn has been investigating the u. S. Militarys final Drone Strike on a car in kabul. Just hours before u. S. Troops were fraught from aversion. U. S. Military claims it hit a legitimate terrorist target. Anna coren joins us right now. This report contains scenes that are graphic and may be hard to watch. What have you learned . Reporter doubts have been raised over whether the u. S. Military actually hit an Isisk Target when they dropped a missile on a car in a Kabul Neighborhood two weeks ago. According to the family and colleagues of the targeted victim, 43yearold Aide Worker zamarai amati, the u. S. Got it wrong. The investigation was led by journalists. We have spoken to 30 bpeople in total, including five colleagues who were with zamarai that day. We have spoken to two Bomb Experts they dispute the military claims there was a significant explosion after the Drone Strike, code for Explosive Material, which is u. S. Suspected. If there was a secondary blast, it most likely was the Vehicle Gas Tank exploding. We have analyzed the footage youre looking at that day right now from zamarai in the office. What is critical to note is a u. S. Official with knowledge of the operation who spoke to cnn said the u. S. Military never knew who was driving the car. They began following the Toyota K C , they saw the Car Leave possibly from the same Safe House and then followed it for the next eight hours before launching the strike. We should remember of course that days before an Isisk Suicide Bomber had killed 13 u. S. Service members, and more than 170 afghans. The u. S. Had intelligence of an imminent and incredible threat, and were understandably on high alert, but john, from what we have established, there are serious doubts as to whether zamarai, a father of seven, high highly respected who worked for a u. S. Ngo for 15 years who feeds the poor, was an Isisk Facilitator with Explosive Material in his car for an attack on the airport. He was not the only one who was killed. According to the extended family who live together in his compound. Nine other Family Members died, seven children, three of whom were toddlers. We have seen this distressing footage of charred remains of what was left of the bodies, parents trying to recognize a hand, a foot, an ear to work out which Body Part belonged to their child. The pentagon says an invest is underway but maintains the strike was based on good intelligence and that no military works harder to prevent civilian casualties. Our full investigation will air later today. Look forward to seeing it, but i think we get the thrust of it right now. Anna coren, thank you so much for your reporting. Joining us now, former white House Adviser on pakistan and afghanistan, and senior south Asia Fellow at new america, shamila chowdry, and cnn political analyst Josh Roguen with us as well. Its incredibly difficult to hear the details, and i wonder what your reaction is to learning this, and what needs to happen . This is a sad and tragic end to two decades of sadness and tragedy. So, you know, i think we need to put it into context that this isnt the first civilian casualty that were seeing. It has been happening for two decades. There have always been civilian casualties in afghanistan which resulted at the hands of the United States, and also afghan forces as well. Just last year, there were over A Thousand strikes. Many of them did result in civilian casualties so when i hear the news of this familys death, the deaths in this family, im reminded that americans have forgotten about afghans and so its great that people are paying attention now, but this has been happening for two decades, and im ready to close this chapter in our 9 11 history. Im ready for the u. S. To stop conducting strikes that kill civilians. I think its time. Its important now, i think, because it reveals what the situation will be going forward because this strike happened at the moment when all u. S. Troops were being withdrawn. So what does this speak or how does this speak to the situation now and in the future, josh . Sure. Well, its obvious and tragic that there have been mistakes over the course of the 20year war in afghanistan. This is different. This is new. This is the first example of what it looks like to conduct Counter Terrorism in afghanistan when we dont have troops on the ground, and we were assured we would have these rising capabilities, everything would be fine. Can you tell me what over the horizon capabilities. Doing Counter Terrorism without any people on the ground in afghanistan and no local partners. As important as the system was, this is worse. We didnt bring the troops home, we said do the same Counter Terrorism, from the same country, farther away, and these mistakes are going go up and down. Withdrawal had benefits and costs. We have to understand that this is a by product of our decision, right or wrong, to withdraw all of our troops, and to leave our partners holding the bag until the taliban was the only people on the ground that We Could deal with. And also, i think its pretty clear that the u. S. Military doesnt have good intelligence, okay, because if theyre claiming good intelligence, what does bad Intelligence Look like at this point, how is it they could not know who theyre attacking, and there was an imminent threat when they killed a guy in his own Parking Lot in his own driveway around a bunch of children. We dont have good intelligence, and the taliban are not good security partners. We found that out when isisk hit the airport. Its not working. Thats not to say withdrawing was good or bad, We Can say that the war on terrorism is over but the terrorists have a vote, and We Cant take our troops out and think everything is going to be fine. As it turns out, the war on terrorism continues, even if afghanistan. Theyre not going to kill us just because were not there, and we have to fight that mission with one hand tied behind our back. Were starting to see what that looks like. Its not pretty. On the question of intelligence, we have to be specific on what we mean when we say intelligence failure. The u. S. Made a precise attack, it was very precise. We have superior hardware. We have superior surveillance capabilities, however, this was a targeting failure. We dont have the same kind of assets on the ground to verify if our targets are actually the right targets. We have seen this again over the past two decades. Now we dont have the military footprint or diplomatic footprint to verify this. The question becomes what do we need in order to prevent u. S. National security from being threatened. One school of thought is we dont need to worry so much because we dont have people on the ground so we wont be targets. What that means is groups like isisk are going to look like american targets all over the world. They done need to look at afghanistan. They can look to the gulf, to europe, and work with organizations that share their values. I think we have to look at it in a different way now. Are you saying that josh is making the point this is emblematic of what were going to see with the overthehorizon capabilities. I think we have lots of partners to work with, Middle East partners, well be sharing intelligence with them like we have the entire time. Afghanistan happens to be the place where thousands of new terrorists have been released from a bunch of prisons and the government includes a network linked to al qaeda, and All Of A Sudden we have absolutely nothing to say when people say, okay, how are we going to deal with that threat. We have been told that, oh, we dont need people on the ground but there was a guy who said we do need people on the ground, Vice President Joe Biden when he was campaigning. When President Trump tried to withdraw troops from syria, President Biden was against that, we need a small contingent to reverse terrorism. Why was he right on syria, and not On Afghanistan . We shouldnt assume the u. S. Wont have people on the ground. We dont theres always going to be some kind of u. S. Intelligence focus on south asia, On Afghanistan. There will be. Just not right now. You guys, theres no government right now in afghanistan. Theres an interim government and the United States is trying to figure out what its relationship is with the taliban, and other countries in the region. Once that gets sorted out, which they are working very hard on in the multilateral space, i think were going to see a little bit more, a better sense of how to approach these threats. Thats one way to go. The other way to go is We Could just have an increasingly dangerous situation that festers until it comes back to haunt us, which is exactly what happened before 9 11, which is exactly what happened in iraq, when we left the Forever War ten years ago, that We Can say the Forever Wars are going to end, but they dont end just because we say. They dont end just because we leave. Theyre going on because they want to kill us. Josh and tamila, i think there are a lot of not great answers to the question. Its an unsatisfying discussion, i think, you know, as we look at what the future is going to hold here. Thank you so much. A category one Hurricane Making Landfall in texas overnight. Were monitoring all of the latest developments as the state is inundated with Heavy Rain and wind. Plus, Russias President , you may have heard of him, Vladimir Putin in isolation after a Covid Outbreak in his inner circle. How bad must it be if the kremlin is coming out and saying that putin is in isolation now. Thats coming up. Ok, lets talk about those changes to your financial plan. Bill, mary . Hey. Its our former broker carl. Carl, say hi to nina, our schwab financial consultant. Hm. I know how difficult these calls can be. Not with schwab. Nina made it easier to set up our financial plan. We can check in on it anytime. It changes when our goals change. 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According to investigators, the boys allegedly studied the Columbine Shootings, and were researching how to find firearms on the Black Market and make pipe bombs. Joining me is the sheriff of the county, thank you so much for being with us this morning. How far along were the boys in this alleged plot, and how were they caught . Good morning. Thanks for having me on. This is a horrible story, actually, and ill tell you, i mean, when you put all the pieces together, which is what we have done here, we prevented a mass shooting, theres No Doubt in my mind. Our school resource officer, a program we have, absolute heroes, but most importantly, the student that comes forward, the teacher that comes forward. People see it, say it, they make the call. We dont ignore red flags, and thats most important here because if not, i could be sitting here talking about a mass shooting. So again, how far along were they . Well, the plan had the plan was in place. They were surfing the Black Market for guns. The they were surfing the internet, they were sensationalized by columbine. They are inspired. They were all over, the maps of The School. They had maps of exactly where our Security Cameras were. They knew exactly what they needed to do, and what they wanted to do. And how was it that they were caught ultimately . So the student comes forward, talks to the teacher. The teacher calls The School resource officer, says, listen, i think theres a gun in a backpack here. Immediately, our sro goes into action, takes that backpack, and looks for that gun, looks for that fire, nothing. He could have stopped there, but guess what, we dont. We start talking and interviewing multiple students and witnesses, and one witness says, you know, at lunch, both our suspects were talking about shooting up this whole school, so now we pull the other suspect in, and now we find a map. And from there we begin our investigation. Now, what does that mean to us . We leave no stone unturned. Our remain time Information Center goes into work, into action, we take search warrants on both houses, and inside the houses we find guns. We find the knives, we find ammo. It all unfolds right in front of our eyes. Its chilling. And i have to say, the fact that what it takes is a tip, it takes a student, a teacher, people speaking up just shows how important it is to be aware of whats going on around you. One of the boys mothers in Court Yesterday said her son is just a little boy, and she didnt think the plans were serious. What do you say to that . Well, its very simple. Is he a child . Yes, he is, but when a child, i dont care what age, 13, 14, 15, presses the trigger on a gun, the after math is a same. And unfortunately parents have to be parents. When your child is surfing the web, net online, and you go in, and you got to see what theyre searching. You see that your child has been watching Columbine Shooting narratives, you know, 12, 15 times, and theyre inspired by it, theyre trying to buy guns online on the Black Market, trying to recruit other students and people to help them with their mission. Okay. Parents need to be parents, and dont ignore red flags. Look, sheriff carmine marcio, even if it was never going to happen, the mere possibility it could have, im so glad you are with us this morning. Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasiocortez turning heads at this statement making gown at last nights Met Gala. Would you wear this . Would i . Would you wear it. Were some people missing the point here. New details about Donald Trumps Pressure Campaign to overturn the president ial election. Hello, francis, how are you . Hello, Brad And Ryan and everyone. Bill, its rudy giuliani. The local election officials on the other end of these Phone Calls and text messages. We Welcome Change . 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In studio, no less. Senator manchin is the Lynch Pin when it comes to pushing through this infrastructure bill, some of which could address Climate Change issues, and he told our Dana Bash over the weekend that hes a no on the 3. 5 trillion price tag. He wants to see something much smaller. President biden, and im sure you, make the argument that if you delay action on Climate Change, its going to be more expensive in the future. How do you bring over a senator manchin, he does not see it the way you do. Well, thank you for having me, and if Theres Anyone who knows how to work with congress, its president Joe Biden. And i think we have to keep making the case. The president is traveling to the western part of the country this week, highlighting the significant impacts, the cost, the impacts of wildfire devastation. I was there just a couple of weeks ago with Governor Newsom, visiting on the ground, looking at the economic impacts, the health benefits, and the impacts are on natural resources. The same thing with hurricane hig ida, traveling along the southeast coast, up the gulf, impacting the northeast. The realities are we have to listen to the scientists, we have to listen to the economists, we have to listen to the National Security advisers, but more importantly, the people are seeing and experiencing this pressure and the president has it right. This is Code Red for climate. Youre talking about wildfires, right . West coast, largely california. Weve seen flooding here. Northeast, largely. This is West Virginia were talking about, senator manchin. This is the guy who when he campaigned, fired a gun at the Cap And Trade bill. How do you get through to him . I think you make the economic case. I think you make the National Security case. Listen, when you look at the president s build back better agenda, were talking about significant investments to create millions of jobs. More importantly, were talking about making our Nations Infrastructure more resilient, our Water Infrastructure more resilient, our Grid Infrastructure more resilient. These infrastructures are crumbling, vulnerable to cyber threats. This is a National Security issue, and also an economic competitive issue. If we make the investments in our Water Infrastructure, if we make our investments in Grid Infrastructure, we are making this country more globally competitive. So theres an economic competitive argument that the president has been making, the 3. 5 trillion investment is a shot in the arm for this country in terms of making america competitive. Hes not there, right. He wants something significantly less than half of what youre calling for. I want to play something for senator manchin, its also about what is in this bill, and this is what he says about the structure of a clean Energy Program thats currently until the house bill. The transition is happening, now they want to pay companies to do what theyre already doing t. It makes no sense to take billions of dollars and pay utilities for what theyre going to do as the market transitions. Its not just about how to pay for it, what do you say to that . Were bringing investments off the sidelines, this is about clean Energy Tax cuts that will help to shore up technologies that will mitigate against climate impacts. Were talking about a clean energy electricity standard, a standard that would begin to build a framework so that We Can construct an expedited decline in emission reductions. So this really is about public private partnerships to stimulate the economy to bring technologies off the sidelines to increase Market Potential and create millions of jobs. Administrator regan, thank you so much. We are tracking this bill. We know you are as well. And we thank you for coming in studio this morning. Thank you for having me. New day continues right now. Welcome to our viewers in the United States, and all around the world. It is tuesday, september 14th. Im john berman, alongside brianna keilar, and this morning, a number of important threats are coming together at one moment, all pointing to one thing. There are forces actively trying to undermine the foundations of democracy and theyre doing it in broad daylight, and theyre doing it proudly. So the california Recall Election, thats today. The polls arent even closed yet, and already larry elder, the leading candidate to replace Governor Gavin Newsom if hes recalled is laying the Ground Work to dismiss a Newsom Victory as somehow cheating. Whether or not you win or lose, will you accept the results of the Election Tomorrow . I think we all ought to be looking at election integrity. We have lawyers set up ready to go to file lawsuits in a timely fashion. Donald trump, a Veteran Liar on Election Results put out a statement again before the polls are even closed in california saying somehow its rigged. Again, if you lose, it must be rigged, hes saying. Actively undermining the foundations of democracy. What is the impact of this, you might ask . Well, theres a rally planned for this saturday in support of the January 6th insurrectionists, right here in washington at the capitol. A source tells cnn that Law Enforcement is preparing

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