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The field in shanksville, pennsylvania, where Flight 93 crashed. Passengers and crew made the historic decision that day 20 years ago to take on the hijackers so they couldnt reach intended destinations. Before leaving pennsylvania, Biden Made a Surprise Stop at the shanksville, Pennsylvania Volunteer Fire department. It was there he made comments to reporters defending the u. S. Withdrawal from afghanistan. If you told anybody we were going to spend 300 Million bucks a day for 20 years to try to unite the country after we got Bin Laden, after Al Qaeda was wiped out there, can Al Qaeda come back . Yeah. But guess what, it is already back other places. Whats the strategy . Any place Al Qaeda is, were going to invade and have troops stay there . Come on. We have reporters at all of the sites. Polo sandoval is at Ground Zero. Lets begin with paula reed in shanksville, pennsylvania. I want to begin with President Biden defending the withdrawal during his visit to a shanksville fire department, but those arent the only comments he made today. Reporter thats right. We were not expecting to hear from the president today. The only former president we expected to hear from was former president george w. Bush. But President Biden made brief remarks while visiting a Volunteer Fire Station not far from here in shanksville, pennsylvania. And he was visiting that particular station because those were the first responders to visit the Crash Site of Flight 93 on 9 11. In his remarks as you heard he continued to defend the Administrations Withdrawal from afghanistan and he continues to defend our ability to respond to threats in that country even without troops on the ground. The president started the day in Lower Manhattan before coming here to shanksville, pennsylvania. I am currently standing at the national memorial to Flight 93. As you just described, whats so significant about what happened on Flight 93 is that 40 passengers and crew members, strangers, banded together, decided to storm the cockpit and crash the plane in a field in rural pennsylvania. We now know the likely target for the hijacked commercial airliner was the u. S. Capitol, and the memorial is a tribute to sacrifices that were made and lives saved that day. As part of todays memorial, remarks by Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Bush, and his remarks are really making headlines, jim. He talked about unity he saw in this country in days following 9 11, how it is a stark contrast to the partisan environment that we are currently in, and he also touched on the threat of domestic extremism. Lets lets ento what he said. We have seen growing evidence that the dangers to our country can come not only across borders but from violence that gathers within. Theres little cultural overlap between violent extremists abroad and violent extremists at home, but then theres disdainful pluralism, in their disregard for human life, in their determination to defile national symbols. They are children of the same foul spirit and it is our continuing duty to confront them. Reporter the Vice President also touched on the spirit of unity that was embodied on Flight 93 in her remarks, and Family Members and friends of those lost on Flight 93 were able to visit the Crash Site at The End of the memorial. It is significant. They have been the ones pushing to get this memorial built. Some of them believe people Forget about what happened that day in shanksville, pennsylvania, they believe most of the attention is on Lower Manhattan on the pentagon and they wanted people to be able to come here and learn about the sacrifices that were made on that day and arguably the lives that were saved because that group of strangers came together. Jim . Paula, i have been to shanksville, i was there in 2002 for one Year Anniversary of 9 11. It is such an important place for americans to visit. I hope people get out there, get to see it sometime. Paula, thanks for that report. Lets go to polo in Lower Manhattan. Lets talk about how New Yorkers are marking the 20th Anniversary at Ground Zero today. Jim, even now, you can hear the occasional Bag Pipes below, solemn sounds of taps. I have to tell you throughout the day and earlier this morning during that ceremony, officials were present but didnt speak. The attention remained on families of the fallen, some that survived the horrific events of 20 years ago. Heres just one snapshot of some of the solemn celebration that took place in Lower Manhatta N today. [ Bell Tolling ] 20 years feels like an eternity, yet it still feels like yesterday. And tony, my love, rest in peace. [ Bell Tolling ] around the River Bend for death is not the End Cause ill see you in M Y dreams. Back here in Lower Manhattan. Tonight, skies over Lower Manhattan will have a tribute in lights, the iconic tribute to the families of the fallen, but also a reminder of resilience of the american spirit. As we look down on some of the reflecting pools, its also evident it continued to effect so many people. You look down, still see first responders stopping by, paying their respects. Certainly just those tributes, even after the ceremony wrapped up today, they continue well into tonight. Jim . I was just down there yesterday, polo. It is such a moving place. Our hearts go out to everybody there today in remembrance of 9 9 9 11, 20 years ago. President biden will attend a Wreath Laying Ceremony for those that died when flight 77 hit the building. Their legacy lives on and the idea that america, no terrorist anywhere on earth can ever destroy that idea. Since that dark day 20 years ago, Men And Women Of The United States Military fought tirelessly to defeat terrorists in afghanistan and around the world, both at home and abroad, talent, efforts, courage, personal valor carried this day and night. We did not fear what was in front of us because we loved what was behind us. Joining me now, former defense secretary, Cia Director Leon panetta that oversaw the u. S. Operation that killed osama Bin Laden. Secretary panetta, thank you so much for joining us on this day. 20 years ago you were up on Capitol Hill when you first learned that planes hit the world trade center. You later saw this book, rising at the pentagon. Take us back to that day, how was it for you trying to get home for your family . Like millions of others, jim, its a day that you dont Forget. I was on Capitol Hill. I was briefing members of congress on an Ocean Commission that i was chair of when one of the commissioners leaned over to me, she had an office in new york city, and said one of the Trade Towers had been hit by a plane. We both assumed it was a terrible accident at the time. Then a few minutes later, the second Plane Hit the other tower. And we knew that it was a terrorist attack. I turned to members of congress and i said look, weve just been attacked by terrorists, i think it is really important for you to get out from this area on Capitol Hill as quickly as you can. I jumped in a car and as i was leaving, i saw the smoke from the plane that hit the pentagon. It is a day you never Forget because you suddenly realized that america was being attacked, something we never believed could happen. Right. It is remarkable, secretary, you can remember all these memories so vividly, all these years later. We heard from former President Bush today, he used his remarks to talk about violent extremists. I am sure it stood out for you as it did to so many of us, talking about violent extremists at home and abroad. Called them children of the same foul spirit. What did you make of that and were you surprised he went there . No, im glad he did very frankly because i think just as 9 11 was a Wakeup Call to foreign Terrorism And Threat from foreign terrorism, i think January 6th was a Wake Up Call for domestic terrorism and the reality is that a terrorist is a terrorist, whether that terrorist is abroad or whether the terrorist is here at home. And this country has to recognize that we have a responsibility to protect ourselves from attacks from terrorists, whether theyre here or whether theyre in afghanistan or elsewhere. And President Biden made remarks in shanksville. Lets play a bit of that and get your reaction. The american people think it was time to get out of afghanistan, spending all that money. The flip of it is, they didnt like the way we got out. It is hard to explain to anybody how else could you get out. For example, if we were in ka jek stan, were not going to let anybody that was involved with being sympathetic to us to get in the plane, you would have People Hanging secretary panetta, you heard the president s comments. We did see People Hanging onto those Cargo Planes coming out of afghanistan. Do you think the president should have gone there today and talked about some of the concerns that americans had about the way we pulled out of afghanistan . I really think it is important for President Biden to move on. He made a decision, whether you agree or disagree with the decision, he made it. I think whats important now is for the president to focus on the future and how is this country going to make sure that 9 11 never happens again and that we will protect our country from terrorists abroad and terrorists here at home. I think thats the key message he has to send to the american people. This is such an important thing i want to ask you about. Im sure you noticed last week, President Biden signed an executive Order Directing Department of justice to conduct a Declassification Review of documents related to the 9 11 attacks. It is something that families of victims have wanted for a long time. You are the former cia director. Do you think these families are going to get the answers theyre looking for, particularly theres a lot of focus on the Role Saudi Arabia played. I am pleased that President Biden declassified those documents. I think the families of the victims are entitled to know the whole truth of what was involved and who was involved when it came to 9 11. I suspect that theyre not going to get the kind of satisfactory answers about the role of Saudi Arabia with regards to this attack, but at the same time, i think it is important to release that information so we have a better sense of who played what role when it came to the tragedy of 9 11. Former defense secretary, leon panetta. We hope families get the answers theyre hoping for. They may not get everything theyre hoping for. Someone that was there for so much of this, thank you for your service as well and for your reflections today. We appreciate it. Thank you very much, jim. Again, my heart goes out to all of the victims on this terrible day. Lets hope that america is able to protect ourselves in the future from any repeat of that kind of attack. Absolutely. No question. We can be unified on that. All right. Secretary, good to talk to you. Thanks so much. Thank you. 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You showed what being New Yorkers is all about. And joining me by phone, the man who led the new York Yankees to four World Series victories. Executive producer of extra innings from 9 11 20 years later. Thanks for joining us. What does it mean to stand out there for first pitch on the 20th Anniversary . It will be some kind of moment, i imagine. Well, jim, as you know, none of us Forget. 20 years, you still feel like you could reach out and touch it. It has always been right there for us. I dont know how im going to feel. I know the emotion is going to be huge. And, you know, watching some of the names being mentioned this morning, it is just so powerful and sad, and theres a bit of anger in there, people died and were defenseless. I think baseball really has a responsibility, all sports do, you know, to try to get in the way of the sadness. It helped us so much. I remember all of this. Now all of the memories are rushing back. What do you remember about that very first game after 9 11, the yankees, theyre not exactly everybodys beloved Baseball Team when you go outside of new york, if you dont mind d. C. Kid saying this. That was not the case after 9 11. What happened when you first went to that game . Yeah. It was in chicago. We were home when the planes hit the towers. And obviously it was frightening for all of us. And Commissioner Selig decided we were going to start baseball up again, it was going to be the following monday. You know, we went to chicago and went out and as you mentioned, you know, you remember the yankees, people either love you or hate you, theres no in between. We went out there in the dugout in chicagos Kaminski Park and there would be all kinds of signs saying we love new york, we support new york, and it was very meaningful and understandable that, you know, this is everybodys everybody felt the same way. I know we in new york, you know, we were a lot closer to it, but, you know, this country comes together when tragedy happens and unfortunately this was a huge bit of tragedy. No question. Then a few weeks after the attack, you had that famous moment, former President Bush throwing out first pitch. That was such an important moment i think for the country. What do you remember about that night . I remember everything. Pretty much everything. You know, there were rumors he was going to be there. We had just come in from arizona, we had lost the first two games of the World Series and, you know, whats interesting, jim, is both managers, both general managers always meet in the umpires Dressing Room before the first game in that particular ballpark. We did that in arizona and were doing it here at yankee stadium. And you walked in and you do the ritual, shake hands with everybody, you know, six umpires that have the game and all of a sudden there was an umpire i didnt recognize. Come to find out later on, well, actually, i saw it there, it was the Secret Service men and he was dressed as an umpire. I think i mentioned something about obviously he was armed and would try to bring some levity. About time they armed you guys, meaning the umpires, but it was it was powerful. I was at The End of the runway coming from the clubhouse to the dugout, and i welcomed President Bush and he comes, i mean, charging out and says to me, he says joe, he said you going to kick their Butts Tonight . I said well, i hope so. With that, he went past me and up the steps and right to the mound. Found out later obviously he went to the top of the mound, pitched from the pitchers rubber, and he had warmed up with Derrick Jeter in the Batting Cage underneath the stands, and of course only jeters dry wit said to the president , said where are you throwing first pitch from . He said if you dont throw it from top of the mound, theyre going to boo you, this is yankee stadium. Another thing, dont bounce it. So the president had a little bit of pressure put on him by our captain, but he went out there and threw a strike and again, came off the mound. Everybody cheered him. It was a great moment for everybody because it was sort of a Security Blanket after, you know, 9 11 and not too far off the 9 11 that the president of the united states chose coming to throw out first pitch in new york instead of arizona because of what had happened. Yeah. I think, joe, what it said to the country was it was okay to play baseball again, it was okay to do things that we love as a country, as much as we were sad and grieving at that time. Joe torre, thank you for being a huge part of that moment in our Nations History and thanks for your time and those reflections this afternoon. We appreciate it. Thanks so much for asking. I appreciate it. Be safe. All right. You as well. Just this once, i will say go yankees. Thanks so much. A programming note. 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Iconic words from then president george w. Bush as he stood on top of the smoldering rubble on Ground Zero. Two days later, Vice President Dick Cheney gave the nation a preview what the u. S. Response to the 9 11 attacks would involve, a fight that would later be dubbed the Global War On Terror. We also have to work sort of The Dark Side if you will, we have to spend time in the shadows in the intelligence world. A lot of what needs to be done here will have to be done quietly without any discussion, using sources and methods that are available to our intelligence agencies, if were going to be successful. Thats the world these folks operate in. And joining me, Cnn Contributor and author of the book the only plane in the sky, oral history of 9 11. Garrett, youve done such a service to the u. S. With all your hard work on this topic. You believe that response from cheney about The Dark Side, the socalled dark side came to define the u. S. Response over the next two decades. Lets talk about that. Can you explain that . Yeah. I think looking back now with 20 years of hindsight, what we see is that the u. S. Made a series of choice in the wake of 9 11 about how to pursue the socalled Global War On Terror that ultimately compromised our aims to secure freedom, left us sort of less free at home, less secure at home, more morally compromised, more alone on the World Stage than the united states has ever been. And it is a series of very tragic choices where we chose some poor allies, we misdefined our enemy, and then we sort of misdefined what our quest for justice would be and The Dark Side that Dick Cheney hinted at that we sort of later saw play out in the cia torture program, the black sites, the Guantanamo Prison detainees, Abu Ghraib and elsewhere have ultimately left a real moral stain on our country. And in a piece for The Atlantic, you look back at 17 minutes that passed between the first and second planes hitting the world trade center, how america became or before the second Plane Hit is unrecognizable today. We became a different place. Yeah. That 17 minutes from 8 46 to 9 03, you see just how innocent a nation we really were on the morning of tuesday, september 11th, 2001. People across the nation from the streets of new york to the president of the united states in florida see and hear of that first crash into the North Tower and sort of collectively shrug. Everyone assumed it was at first a small plane, pilot had a heart attack, Air Traffic Control was having a bad day, we didnt default to believing it was terror. We didnt default to thinking this was an attack, and it wasnt until that second plane crosses onto Americas Tv screens at 9 03 and crashes into the South Tower that we really begin to see america realize that it is under attack. 20 years later, were used to being afraid in public places. We are used to active shooter drills. We are used to terrorism drills. We are used to heightened airport security. But on that morning of 9 11 you see this incredibly innocent country confounded by initial minutes of the attack. No question about it. I remember that moment all too well. What happened in the immediate days after 9 11 that stands out to you when it came to analyzing intelligence for threats . Yeah. This is where we have to acknowledge 20 years later the united states has achieved a great deal of tactical success in the war on terror. Al qaeda is greatly disabled as a force for terrorism. Osama Bin Laden of course killed in abbottabad, and that islamic extremism is unable to carry out the type of sophisticated, spectacular attack it did on 9 11. At the same time, though, weve had a lot of strategic failure. Thats been true, thats been put in stark relief this summer, we watched photos, images, video out f afghanistan, and a war that stretched on for 20 years until it is now being fought on both sides by people that have no memory of the day that started it all. No question about it. And it is a subject that you and i could talk about the rest of the afternoon. But thats all the time we have now. Garrett graff, thank you so much for the work on this topic. It is so important. If you havent picked it up and looked at Garretts Article in The Atlantic and the book about the subject, it is worth checking out. Thanks so much for your time. We appreciate it. Always a pleasure, jim. Coming up, fencing expected back on the capitol. 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And we have seen growing evidence that the dangers to our country can come not only across borders but from violence that gathers within. Theres little cultural overlap between violent extremists abroad and violent extremists at home. Then theres disdainful pluralism, in their disregard for human life, in their determination to defile national symbols. They are children of the same foul spirit and it is our continuing duty to confront them. This comes as u. S. Capitol police are increasing security ahead of a right Wing Rally next weekend in support of jailed insurrectionists. They asked for fencing that surrounded the capitol for months after the January 6th riot to go back up. Suzanne malveaux joins me from Capitol Hill. How concerned are Law Enforcement officials about the rally next weekend . Sounds like theyre making lots of preparations now. Reporter they already are, jim. First of all, it really is significant having covered President Bush for two terms that he mentioned domestic Extremism And Violence today having defined his presidency in the Global War On Terror regarding isis and Al Qaeda and other foreign terrorists. Thats the first thing thats very noteworthy today. Secondly, yes, you do have capitol policeman, internal memo, expressing a great deal of concern about next saturdays rally, the potential, up tick of rhetoric of violence around this potential rally, not only directed at the capitol but also at jewish centers, liberal churches. Theyre already making preparations. Capitol police also recommending to the board that they reconstruct, get fences back up for the integrity of the buildings here that were under attack the last time. It is up to the board to decide. But it is a strong recommendation to get that fencing back in place. And finally, jim, House Speaker Nancy pelosi inviting colleagues, leadership, democrats and republicans on the House And Senate side, to meet in her office on monday with the head of the capitol police, with the chief, to discuss the kinds of preparations that theyre going to be making for next saturday. What is notable, however, jim, at least one of the organizers of the rally is saying that this is going to be peaceful. Law enforcement is looking at some of the information that they have. They note it is not going to be or they dont expect it to be a large rally, potentially maybe 500 people. They also notice theres not up tick on hotel reservations like last go around in the days leading up to the January 6th rally, lots and lots of people in washington, d. C. Gathering and a real Sense Something was about to happen. Jim . Were also learning new information about just how much Law Enforcement had warning of what might happen prior to January 6th, the insurrection. What can you tell us about that . There is a watchdog group. They published something online, email as well as phone calls. This really is about hundreds of Law Enforcement officials essentially communicating with Each Other, talking to Each Other two days prior to January 6th. What were they seeing, what were they potentially expecting. Well, the language here, reporting indicates significant number of individuals planned to or advocating for others to travel to washington, d. C. To engage in civil unrest and violence. Jim, it goes on to say this could be a mass casualty event. They were not only expecting the potential for violence when it comes to physical violence, they also said perhaps it would be a cyber Threat And Lack of communication that they would have to prepare for all the contingencies, jim. That is remarkable. I suspect thats not the last of those kinds of revelations well be seeing in the weeks and months to come. Suzanne malveaux on top of all of that for us, thank you very much. Well be back with more on this remembrance of 9 11 and the events in new york, washington, and shanksville, 20 years after september 11th. Tomorrow night cnns Jake Tapper takes a closer look at americas longest war and what went wrong in afghanistan. He sits down with many of the top u. S. Contenders of the war, the former ambassador to the u. S. And u. S. Veterans. Its just he and i sitting in the oval office, and i had not been expecting this. I expected him to say, heres what i would like you to be able to do, but he said, what do you think you can do . I said, well, ive got the european outside of their wires and theyll get a little more involved in patrolling and being out amongst the afghan people. He said, that will be good enough. Thats about the way he responded. What does that mean, good enough . I never tried to define that. But after that, he said, and heres another thing. 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Just minutes from now biden will lay a wreath at the pentagon marking 20 years since terrorists attacked the united states and formed the Resilience And Unity of a nation. Patrick dunn. At new Yorks Ground zero, amid the sounds of bagpipes and the names of fallen children and relatives they never met Grew A nation that day. Adults hugged and cried, giving in to the

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