Tonight president Bidens Message to the republican governors criticizing his sweeping new Vaccine Mandates and threatening to sue to block them, and i quote, have at it. And as the Delta Variant spreads like wildfire, Tonight Big Developments On Mask Mandates in schools in two states where the virus is surging. Plus californias recall Election Hasnt even happened yet, and rightwing media is already spreading lies about the states democratic governor, Gavin Newsoms potential to beat back the recall. Also ahead, my interview with a prominent Professor And Commentator on race, telling me what he got wrong about the state of race in america after living through the trump era. You dont want to miss that interview. I want to bring in cnn global Affairs Analyst Susan glasser, and national correspondent philip bump. One day i will see you in person in studio, hopefully soon. And the reason why i havent seen you is because of this. So, susan, President Biden has a message for the republican governors looking to challenge his new Vaccine Mandates. As i said, its have at it. The truth is they arent willing to align with the best interests of Public Health. They are making a base play, gambling with lives. So what other choice did he have . Well, its interesting. You know, it took hmm a few months to get there, but i think what youre seeing is biden and the White House responding to the growing pressure really from their own base. You know, we spent four years talking about trump and his base. Well, biden has a base too, and i think its a majority of the country of adults who have gotten vaccinated, who have become more and more frustrated with the idea that were being held hostage in effect to the politics of a sort of resisting minority of people. So its interesting. I think for once we should be talking about the biden base and not always about the trump base, and thats really what this is about. Can you please say that again. Ive been saying that forever. One of the smartest people i know, susan glasser. No slight to you, philip bump. Again, dont you think thats a point that i think biden hasnt realized democrats as well, that people maybe should be leaning in more for what the folks who support him want. Yeah. I think thats generally true. I mean it certainly is the case theres a lot of frustration. Bear this mind more than half of republicans have also received at least one dose of the vaccine. It is however the case that most of the people who are not vaccinated are republicans according to Kaiser Family Foundation polling. There is this overlap of politics and vaccinations that is hard to prove through the numbers but also hard to ignore. I mean its also clearly the case that republicans are the less likely to get vaccinated, that this outbreak is occurring much more dramatically in less vaccinated places. So part of the challenge is that when Joe Biden needs to twist the arms of the unvaccinated, he ends up twisting the arms of essentially mostly people who are actually republicans. I think Thats Part of the challenge too. You see, and i quote here, when biden announced his plan, you say this war over his Vaccine Push is mostly a contest for the approval of a vocal minority. Yeah, exactly. I mean theres been all this rhetoric about how this is the start of a Civil War, and thats because we have all these people. Theres this element of the right which is very much used to having this contest who can be the loudest and most extreme voice, get the most viewers on Fox News, get the most retweets on twitter. There is this effort to be the most outrageous person and that leads to this rhetoric on Civil War and fails to recognize realities on the ground. The mandate isnt a mandate as it is so much telling businesses, hey, you have to have people vaccinated or have them test. One more political question. Do they think thats really the best strategy . Whats best for their political interests is to kill countless americans . Its a really good question, and i think that the answer is that there appears to be actually sufficient insulation for people like Kristi Noem in south dakota, the governor there. They had tons of people die relative to the States Population and has not paid any apparent political price. So if the base continues to be loud and active and support these people who make these calls, then apparently yes. Yeah. Susan, tomorrow marks 20 years since 9 11. What are you feeling about where were heading two decades after this horrific date that changed this country forever . You know, don, it does feel like an inflection point. The symmetry, if you will, a coming Full Circle from the taliban being back in control of kabul two decades later. Its something that, you know, its a moment where it feels like were understanding that this is a different global time, that this is a moment where american hubris and overreach have perhaps, at least for now, killed off our sense of, you know, american exceptionalism. This idea that we were different and unique, that we operated in a way somehow outside of the laws of history. I feel like this is a moment of sort of looking in the mirror and saying, you know, thats not anymore the u. S. And its a humbling moment really for the country in a lot of ways. Are you surprised at where we are two decades later, susan . Well, i mean i would have to say that anybody, you know, who didnt tell you that on september 11, 2001, if you told them that they would still be leaving afghanistan 20 years later, you know, yes, of course you would be surprised. That the taliban, after a u. S. War to topple them, would be back in power and that we ourselves would be tied up in knots over our own democracy internally, yeah, thats a pretty shocking turn of events. It really is, don. Mmhmm. Philip, im going to give you the final word on this. Here we are two decades later, and if we can put the tribute in light up as philip gives us his final thoughts here. I just the one thing i would add is that i looked today at actually where the deaths had occurred of Service Members who served in afghanistan, and it covers every state in the united states. It covers the territories, puerto rico. The aftermath of this also touched all of america very directly, and i think its Worth Remembering that too. Thank you both. I really appreciate it. You guys have a good weekend. Thanks so much. Tonight, Two Big Developments On Mask Mandates in schools. A state Appeals Court in florida upholding the governors ban on schools requiring kids to wear masks. And in kentucky, schools can now decide if they want Mask Mandates or not. The governor wanted all students to mask up, but State Lawmakers blocked him. Important to note that covid is surging in florida, kentucky, and across most of the south. I want to bring in now dr. Sarah ma dad. The virus is spreading like wildfire across much the country right now and rulings like these make it harder to put into practice measures that work. As a doctor, are these decisions holding back our ability to fight this pandemic . Oh, absolutely. We know masks work, and if were looking at multiple different studies that have now proved it even in real world, were showing that masks are some of the most basic interventions that we can apply in this pandemic that can help curb the spread of this highly infectious disease. And as we look at the pediatric populations in schools right now, you know, as a parent myself, no one wants to see a child getting infected let alone be hospitalized. Youre seeing a Record Number of pediatric cases, i mean just over the last week, over 200,000 pediatric infections. High number of hospitalizations. So we can prevent a lot of these cases just by putting a mask on. Doctors take an oath to do no harm, but unfortunately that doesnt apply to politicians, does it . Absolutely not. I think politicians have been playing with science as a political football from the beginning of this pandemic, and its been very unfortunate because the people that are being affected by it are all of us. You know, its risking everybodys lives. Its very, very unfortunate, and we need to make sure science continues to lead the way. It shouldnt be politics. It shouldnt be these kneejerk reactions. It should be science, evidencebased, to keep everyone safe. You know, doctor, everyone wants to see all kids back in school, but what about kids under 12 who are not yet eligible for vaccines . How concerned are you about these kids attending schools with no masks . Im very concerned because as were seeing play out right now in some of these states right now that have very high levels of community trans mission, what youre seeing is when these high levels of community transmissions, its reflected in the number of pediatric cases. The higher number of community transmission, lower vaccination rates, more children getting infected. So its adults that can help children by getting vaccinated, build that bubble of immunity around children, and keep them safe. Were just not seeing it in some of these states. Doctors and Health Care officials had been clear that the best way to keep kids in school and to keep them safe is to wear masks. If there are a lot of kids returning to school in these hot zones without masks, how bad do you see this getting . You know, right now as were looking at where we are, you know, were seeing a Record Number of infections per day. If youre looking at just comparing from last year, September 10th of 2020, were at four times that rate now. So going into obviously schools opening with Fall And Winter holiday season, were going to continue to see high number of cases. I think right now certainly we are seeing a general decline in cases, but that may you know, that may change on a dime. So we just need to make sure that were following the science. Were following these Public Health measures. And with the pediatric population, i think all of us certainly are waiting for that pediatric vaccine to be made available, but its not going to be made available anytime soon. So we need to protect these children and have that bubble around them. I think what many people dont get, especially the critics of the masks and other forms of protecting ourselves against this virus is that it was called a Novel Coronavirus because it was new, and we were learning new things about it and learning new things about the science to protect and to keep it from spreading. The guidance has changed. Its even flipflopped over the course of the pandemic. Science changes as we get more data. But could the communication from officials have been better . Oh, absolutely. I think the risk communication, were 18 months in now, and i think as you have stated, as science changes, we learn more. So its not that science has lied. Its because weve learned more, and thats why were changing any of these Public Health guidances or reinstating Mask Mandates because were seeing high numbers of cases. So i think as we look at science and the evolution of science, you know, its hard for just the general citizen to understand that. Thats why we need to have good science communication. That just hasnt been happening at many different levels. I think were doing a better job, but i think we need to continuously educate the general public. We need to continue to reinforce some of these measures that work, and we need to continue to ensure that everybody understands that we are still in the throes of a raging pandemic, and that we can get out of it hopefully soon, but we just need everybodys support. I think with the biden administrations new sweeping mandates, that certainly will help. But those are more shortterm solutions. We need to also look at some longterm solutions. Doctor, we love having you. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. Thanks for having me on. Night after night we are knocking down misinformation about covid and vaccines and vaccinations. Tonight a fact check about a false claim about Air Force pilots that went viral, viewed over A Million times on twitter. My dad just let me know this. A Text Message went out last night from the secretary of defense to all the active military personnel saying, you know, by 10 00 a. M. You have to go get the magic potion, or youre going to be court martialed. So as a result of that, 12 f22 pilots, the most highly trained pilots in the world, walked off the job. Okay. How often do we hear something like that . People actually think its real, right . Cnns Fact Checker in chief, daniel dale, is here. Okay. Daniel, good evening. To you. Good evening. So the man in the video says the secretary of defense sent the entire military a text demanding vaccinations by 10 00 a. M. And that pilots have been resigning en masse. Whats the truth here . None of that is true. So there was no Mass Text to the military about vaccinations from secretary of defense lloyd austin. In fact, a Pentagon Spokesman told Me Today On The Record that the secretary of defense has never sent a Forcewide Email sorry a forcewide Text Message about literally anything. So that didnt happen. There was no mass pilot resignation. The two Military Bases where this supposedly happened, both denied it on the Record Stren strenuously. The Air Force and the pentagon both say they havent heard anything like it. It just doesnt make any sense. The Air Force has very publicly set a deadline of November 2nd for active duty personnel to be fully vaccinated. So it just makes no sense that there would be some text demanding that people get it by 10 00 a. M. The next Day Or Face punishment. Its just completely imaginary, don. Where does this b. S. Where does this nonsense come from . This came from a truly garbage website, and thats not my personal opinion. Im not saying, oh, its biased or i dont like it. This is a website that publishes stories saying things like Tom Hanks has been executed by the u. S. Military. So completely imaginary, fake news in the traditional sense. It went from there, spread online on Social Media as usual. It was picked up by the gentleman in the video, who is a boild builder, who posted that on his Instagram Story. Then that Instagram Story was grabbed by some people on maga, you know, protrump twitter, posted there. Then it was amplified by a highprofile british radio host, some other people with big followings. And the original Nonsense Article was also amplified by some highprofile people, including Fox Nation Host Laura Logan and others. So the article kept spreading. This Nonsense Video kept spreading. I think the moral of the story is dont get your news from people who are claiming that Tom Hanks has been executed by the military. Dont take your news from Rando Body Builders on twitter who are saying they got the story from their dad. Lets put that last tweet back up. I just want to look at that. This is what courage looks like. This is lara logan, i guess, from fox . Yeah. So shes praising the pilots for their courage in resigning even though that didnt happen, and i dont know if shes deleted this in the last couple hours, but it was up for multiple hours even as people were trying to tell her on twitter that it was completely fake. Okay. You know the difference between if that had been someone hopefully that would never happen to someone here at cnn. We would say someone made a mistake, whatever, correct it. We have since removed it and apologize for the mistake. Lets see if that happens from this Fox News person. Lets see. Or as we call it, Fox Propaganda on this show. Thank you very much. Thank you. Appreciate it. Californias Recall Election still four days away, but over on the Fox Propaganda network, theyre already pushing the big lie, part two. A bogus claim that the only way democrats can win is if they somehow cheat. Hey, i just got a text from my sister. You remember rick, her neighbor . 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Reporter thats a new narrative on the right thats sounding all too familiar. Fox News Star Tomi Lahren Diving deep into Voter Fraud conspiracy. Pay attention to the Voter Fraud going on in california because its going to have big consequences not only for that state but for upcoming elections. Reporter shes directing her warning at the democratic governor of california, Gavin Newsom, who is fighting to keep his office in next weeks Recall Election. The Ballot Harvesting that democrats will do reporter this is an emerging Story Line on fox. A prebuttal to the election, baselessly claiming the democrats can only win if they somehow cheat. Its the big Lie Playbook flown from d. C. To sacramento. And lets be clear. Theres been no evidence of widespread Voter Fraud. But the trusted voices on fox, like tucker carlson, have been issuing veiled warnings for weeks, which are false. Noncitizens can vote. Reporter as the old saying goes, history never repeats itself, but it often rhymes. Trumps tactics last winter now seem to be applied to the recall. With newsoms chances of surviving looking pretty good, fraud is presented as an excuse to explain away any future republican loss. The leading Gop Candidate to replace newsom, larry elder, is know joining in. All sorts of reasons why the 2020 election in my opinion was full of shenanigans. And my fear is theyre going to try that in this election here in the recall. Reporter the key context here is that the majority of early ballots returned have come from democrats in of course, a heavily blue state. New Elders Campaign says it is gearing up for legal action. We have a Voter Integrity Board all set up. Most of these are lawyers. So when people hear of things, they contact us. Beer going to fail lawsuits in a timely fashion. Reporter this l. A. Times Columnist Offering a timely response, saying only election losers cry Voter Fraud. Well, loser, win, we will find out about larry Elders Status next week. 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The enormous statue of confederate general robert e. Lee taken down in richmond, virginia. Its just the latest elbow in the Battle Of Racial Inequality playing out in schools and public spaces around this country. My next guest says removing memorials may not be the right way to reckon with our past. Joining me to discuss is randall kennedy, a professor of law at Harvard University and the author of say it loud on race, law, history and culture. So good to have you on. Good evening to you. Thank you very much. Im talking about this robert e. Lee statue. It was up for 131 years. Richmond was the capital of the can fed rassy. For many people of color it meant a lot to see it come down. What did it mean to you . Well, number one, im glad that people were mobilizing against racism and are mobilizing against racism. So i applaud the people who organized to, you know, have it taken down. I do have some cautionary notes, though. One, you know, no monument, no symbol has to mean just one thing. Before they took it down, you can take a look at that picture. The graffiti on it gave it a different meaning. You could have a robert e. Lee statue and have it mean something different than a glorification of the confederacy. You could have a statue and leave it alone and say, you know what . We want it to be here as a reminder of our nations history. You could do that. I think people ought to be a little bit careful about overinvesting in any particular, you know, campaign. There are lots of things that we need to fight against. I get your point. Just a couple of points here, though. I know Theres Lots of things we need to fight, and ive heard statues are not the most important thing, but its one. I mean we can walk and chew gum at the same time. I understand what youre saying. If you look at it with the graffiti and the statue, its become a different piece of art. But wouldnt it be better served in a museum where there can be some explanation about this statue and about what it meant . Listen, again, im not fighting the people who have made this change. I am applauding them. Im simply saying that, you know, frankly i could live with a lot of different avenues of change. So, for instance, at my law school, we had a big Struggle Over the symbol of harvard law school. And there was a big, you know and we got rid of the symbol because the family that sort of memorialized this symbol was a slaveowning family. We got rid of it. There was a person who actually argued against getting rid of it on the grounds that we should continue to have that symbol to remember the enslaved people. Now, you know, i think good argument there. Theres various arguments and, again, i think that we should remember that symbols can be made to mean different things. Thats all. Understood. And perhaps theres a place for both, you know, the old symbol and the new symbol, and it should be taught, you know, when students come into the school for orientation, and maybe you can teach them about that as a way of having them understand the history of the school and the country. Lets get back to the Charlottesville Rally that led to heather Heyers Death was about defending a statue, robert e. Lee. Dont these monuments provide a Rallying Cry for hateful ideology . I know youll say at least it exposes them. Maybe im putting words in your mouth. But doesnt it sort of provide a Rallying Cry for them and it gives them, you know, some sort of something to, you know, defend and come out for, rally for . Probably does, and thats very tragic, and thats very unfortunate. Let me say one other thing, though. You know, theres buildings being built all the time. Theres lots of things to memorialize. Im certainly against memorialization of, you know, robert e. Lee, a traitor. I do think it would be nice to maybe spend a bit more time thinking of, well, there are a lot of wonderful people that need to be memorialized, and we should do that. There should be memorials to medgar evers, to john lewis, to fannie Lou Hamer. Lets spend more time memorializing the true heroes of american history. Lets not forget that part of the struggle. So maybe fannie Lou Hamer should go up in that place where robert e. Lee was, the one that they just took down. That would be great as far as im concerned. Listen, i get it because i like learning and reading and understanding history. As i said, people are fighting so hard now for our history, for the real history of this country not to be taught. Perhaps this is a way that it could be taught. I dont know. But i think you have a point when you say we should examine exactly what were doing, not necessarily that it couldnt come down. But i want to ask you, you described yourself as a racial optimist. This was back in 2014. But in your book, you write this about donald trump. You say the fealty He Elicits reveals and reinforces ugly racial attitudes that are considerably more prevalent, Deep Seated and influential than i had recognized. Even after decades of studying the race question. I am thus no longer a confident optimist. Thats a big statement because usually, you know, africanamericans will say, i cant believe people underestimated or didnt think that donald trump would get elected. Of course he could. Of course theres racism in this country. Its just the larger culture, meaning white people, didnt see it because they didnt have to deal with it on a daily basis like people of color. Did you underestimate how much racial resentment was bubbling underneath the surface . Yes, its humbling to say so, but its true. I have never felt so much trepidation In My Life as in the past two or three years. And, yes, ive been taken aback. And i dont think i was a sentimental person before, but ive been taken aback by the racism, by the cruelty, by the ignorance, by the resentment that is so obvious. Why didnt you see it before, though . Why didnt i . Im you know, im not altogether sure. Again, you know, i dont think i was sentimental, but i did think that we had gone farther down the road to racial decency than we have. Thats a good way of putting it, racial decency instead of, you know, equality. Yeah. Its i have to say this book, there are a number of places where i just say humbly, i was mistaken. And on this one, i was mistaken. That is hard for people to say, especially in this day and age, because people are, you know, wedded to their beliefs. Its hard to change them. Professor, i want to turn to the supreme court now. You argue that we give supreme court justices more deference than they deserve. The recent decision on the texas antiabortion laws was so nakedly partisan that its hard not to see justices as political actors. What happens if the court loses all ability to be neutral . First of all, we should recognize that the Supreme Court Of The United States is not neutral. The Supreme Court Of The United States is political. Its as political as the house of representatives. Its as political as the senate. Its as political as the presidency. You know, the nine justices, all of them, you know, the conse conservatives, the liberals, they are political figures. Their politics takes place in a different way. They have a different vocabulary. They have different customs. Their politics is registered in a somewhat different way. But are they political . Of course they are. Thats why theres so much fighting and, you know, theres such a Struggle Over whos going to be on the supreme court. If it wasnt political, it wouldnt be such a big deal. Right. Well, it wouldnt be a conservative president appointing a conservative judge or a liberal president appointing a liberal judge or nominating a liberal judge because politics wouldnt play a role in it. Youre right. Even at the beginning, on its face, its political. Its thoroughly political, and the citizenry should understand that. I think a lot of people want to sort of think that, you know, the supreme court is above politics. I think people get a certain, you know, sort of sense of security out of that thought. But its a delusion. So i want to talk about the courts only black justice, conservative clarence thomas. Though you disagree with his positions on racial issues, you used to say calling him a sellout was going too far. But now you write that if hes not a sellout, then the term has no utility. What changed your mind . Again, another big statement from you. Well, hes been on the court, and he has participated in some of the most hurtful judicial delinquencies in modern american history. The worst was his vote in a 54 decision that eviscerated the voting Rights Act of 1965. People died seeking to get that act put into law. It was a needed, a useful in my view, a obviously proper and constitutional enactment, and he participated in the evisceration of the voting Rights Act of 1965. And there are other things, but that was the worst. Yeah. And against that backdrop, i have no problem with people, especially black people, shunning him. What do you say . I think youve said it all right there. I think there are many people of color who feel exactly the same way that you do. Professor, thank you so much. I appreciate you joining. I cant wait to read the book. I havent had the opportunity to read it, but i cant wait to get my hands on it and read it. Check out professor kennedys book. Its called say it loud on race, law, history and culture. 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