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Brand new hour. Thanks for staying with us. Have at it. Thats the message from President Biden as republican governors begin legal battles. Federal workers, health care staff, employees of large Company Fps governors of texas, alabama, georgia, south carolina, Mississippi Vow to use every resource they have to take this mandate to the court, but the White House says expect it to be enforced in matter of weeks. More than a third of adults in the u. S. Are still not fully vaccinated and we know its the Unvaccinate Redirect Examination who overwhelming hospitals across the country. Companies could face thousands of dollars in fines, per employee, if they do not comply. Reporter they could impose fines of 14,000 per infraction which would be per employee. It does fall under the osha act. That is a federal law, Program Department designed to keep workers safe. Thats why the White House believes they are on solid legal ground here. They say this would protect workers from grave danger. Its a law about a half century or so old. The president clearly believes he is on solid footing here. It will take the Labor Department the next few weeks to issue this rule. Were talking several weeks or months for this to be enacted. The president will require all Federal Workers to get vaccinated. They have some 75 days to complete this. It does raise the question, this is a change in policy from the president. For the last several months hes been saying he did not believe mandates were the way to tame this pandemic. He changed course because the virus has kept spreading and he does not see another option out there. Speaking of options, we also got a sense of what this administration is thinking in terms of flying. You do not have to be vaccinated to fly so the head of the Covid Task Force was asked about that earlier this morning. Lets take a listen. As to travel, were taking further action to double the fines for noncompliance of masking on airlines. Thats a Tsa Action announced yesterday. Were pulling available levers to require vaccinations and not taking any measures off the table. Reporter not taking any measures off the table but for now vaccinations are not necessarily on the table or expected to be implicated soon. Victor, at The End of this week, its the most aggressive Steps President biden has taken to try and tame the pandemic. You can bet most of this will end up in court. Requiring testing to fly domestically as we heard last hour, that could change the minds. Thanks so much. President bidens new Vaccine Requirements could affect as many as 100 Million Dollar american workers. So far we have seen a mixed reaction from the business community. U. S. Chamber of commerce and the Business Roundtable welcome the president s action. Some Business Owners have voiced concerns over the burden that this mandate will bring. Cnn economics and political commentator joins me now. As this was going on, as the president was delivering these remarks, you tweeted out, hall l hallelujah, its beyond time. I wish he had done this months ago. More Vaccination Mandates are what this country needs to save lives and save livelihoods. What about that element that jeff mentioned at the White House that the White House had said this is not our role. This is not something we think we should do or need to do and now they flipped on it . I think a few things have changed. One is the delta variant. We have this much more transmissable version of the virus thats put peoples lives at risk and two is we know that the people who are Hold Outs at this point, dont seem to be persuadable. It seemed like maybe you could encourage people to get the shot. You could have these lotteries and that would incentivize people to get shots. The people who are refusing, it seems like the only thing available is requirements. We heard from other experts that you should not fly and take planes. If this is the full court press, why not press that . I would love to see those actions. I think the White House should use every tool in its arsenal to make sure people get vaccinated and that could mean among other things, targeting employers. There are carve outs in this as well. Employers with fewer than 100 workers do not have to abide by this Vaccination And Testing requirement. Ive heard questions about why that is. Usually osha doesnt have carve outs for Health And Safety requirements because they say if its hazard in a big business, its a hazard in small business. Why do you think that is . I suspect with the political Pal Pablt of it, and b, the cost. How economically feasible it is. Maybe they think bigger businesses could absorb the costs of this testing. We dont know what the rule says yet. It hasnt come out. We dont know if employers will have to deal with that cost. Probably they will. Assume they will but we dont know what the language is. If they have to absorb more co cost, maybe they figure big companies can absorb it. Logistics for even a company as large as Procter Gamble or one that has 100 employees, thats going to be a major challenge. Yeah, they will have to figure out how they will implement this. I think these by businesses know its in their interest. They dont have to worry about shut downs. I think a lot of companies will be relieved they have big, bad government do blame for an action they may have wanted to take but worried about taking because it might alienate their workers or customers. I think it will be a relief to firms because the heat is mo longer on them. They get the benefit of having to require their workers to be vaccinated to have a safer workplace and hopefully a more Fluidly Operating Business without having to take the heat for making that very controversial decision. As you said, we have to wait for more of these specifics. Thank you. Thank you. Lets bring in now dr. Richard. Hes the former Acting Director of the cdc and the President And Ceo of the Robert Wood Johnson foundation. Lets start with the scope of the opposition. This is not onehalf of the Country Versus Onehalf of the country on the pro and the opposition to vaccines and mandates in is a small minority that were talking about thats pushing back and holding out. Yeah. Thats right, victor. Were seeing across the country that 75 of adults have received one vaccine. Its not the majority of people. Its a small group thats pushing back here. It baffles me as to why were seeing this push back. When you look at Fnew Data that cdc put out, the states with the lowest rates of vaccination have four times the rate of children visits to the emergency room. Four times the rate of children hospitalizations. You see states fighting for the right to keep their children in harms way. I just dont understand that when its clear we have way to really get this pandemic under control. The schools in florida will not be allowed to enforce these mask mandates, at least as long as the case goes through the courts there in the state. Let me ask you about the tone of the president s remarks yesterday. There was a professor who was with me at the top of the last hour who said this should not be something through which people are scolded. You want to nudge. It seems like the White House is beyond nudging people to get Vak Cincin vaccinated. The unvaccinated over crowd our hospitals, over running Emergency Rooms and intensive care units. We have been patient. Our patience is wearing thin. The refusal has cost all of us. Whats your assessment of the president s tone and the audience of this . Was this directed toward the unvaccinated or was it a speech for those who are vaccinated and frustrated with the direction of the country as we look at the poll numbers that have come out . I think it was directed more at those who are frustrated. I think its still really important to keep up the efforts to meet people where they are, to understand each persons concerns and try to address those. The individuals in our country who have not gotten Vak Siccina are not monolithic. 75 of adults are fully va vaccinated. In town of Prince Ton its 79 and in trenton, its 55 . That has to do with the mistreatment of black people. We need to address those concerns in a real way. I think putting mandates in place will move some people who are movable. People who are on the Fence Havent been real excited about getting vaccinated but with the requirements in place for work, if we keep up the efforts the reach people, im excited to see that one of the things the president called for is that the requirement that businesses will give people paid time off to get vaccinated. For some people thats very important because there is no sick time to take to do that. That will be a real plus. I was encouraged to see the Up Tick in some of the southern states hit hard this summer. Thank you so much. Thank you, victor. Remembering 9 11 this weekend. Joseph fifer was the first Fire Chief to arrive at the World Trade Center on September 11th. He will join us to look back on the day as we approach the 20th Anniversary. At Pnc Bank, we believe in the power of the watch out. Thats why we created low Cash Mode, the financial watch out that gives you the options and extra time needed to help you avoid an overdraft fee. Its one way were making a difference. Low Cash Mode on virtual wallet from Pnc Bank. Subway® has so much new it didnt fit in our last ad. Like the new app with customization, curbside pickup and delivery. Theres so much new, we dont even have time to show you whos holding this phone. Bet you dont treat brady this way. Come on, man you clearly havent seen the other ads. Its the eat fresh refresh™ at subway®. 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Have at it. Look, im so disappointed that particularly some of the republican governors have been so cavalier with the health of these kids. So cavalier at the health of their communities. This is were playing for real here. This isnt a game. My colleague, Jake Tapper Anchor of the Lead And State of the union, good to have you. On one hantd they are slamming the administration saying this is interfering with private sector, with businesses. On the other hand, many of the same governors have been refusing to allow these businesses to require masks, to require vaccines. It smacks of hypocrisy. It sure does. How you try to thread the needle on saying what President Biden is doing, stepping aside from constitutional issues and just talking about it is a principle, the idea of telling businesses what they can and cannot do. How somehow that is offensive if hes trying to mandate testing or vaccines but the instruction by republican governors to tell School Districts that they cannot take steps for safety such as masking or telling businesses that they cannot require masks. Its entirely inconsistent and really a lot of this seems to be rather performative about trying to appeal to the republican base and not about what is in the best Health Interest of the citizens of these individual states. You can make a constitutional argument, a principaled argument that you dont think under the Commerce Clause that the president has the right to do this or that its over steps oshas regulatory authority and thats fine. Courtrooms will hear the arguments but beyond that is the idea of what are you as a Leader Doing to try to end the pandemic . Quite frankly, there are exceptions to this but there are a lot of governors, republican governors, that are seem to be hindrance than help when it comes to trying to save their populations. Yeah Governor Hogan in maryland, Governor Justice in West Virginia trying to get out people to get vaccinated. I want to talk to you about your Documentary Airing on cnn on sunday night. What went wrong in afghanistan. We have watched the heartbreaking picture of the withdrawal but the scope of the special and the answer to the question is far broader than that. Lets take a look and well talk. There was good will for it in a way. Nato invoked the article so that all members were behind to help the united states for the first and only time in history. The council agreed that an armed attack against one or more of the allies in Europe Or North america shall be considered an attack geagainst them all. What could have been done differently with the benefit of 20 years of experience in. I thought about it a lot. I would have Make A Decision to do Nothing Sub Sstantive for a year. I mean no bombing or strike, et cetera. I would have gone around the world and built up a Firm Coalition for what we do about al qaeda. I would have done a mass effort to train americans in arabic to get ourselves to do something that we knew would be very, very difficult. I Cant Think of any president that would okay, lets take a Year And Wouldnt be impeached. The Blood Lust was so strong. I freely admit it. I know it would have been almost impossible case for me. I still think thats what we should have done. Ive only seen a couple of clips and the speak you spoken with seem to be extraordinarily candid. Its really remarkable. A lot of what they are saying, that are was general mccrystal. He spoke to 8 of the 11 commanding generals and all of them have been thinking a great deal especially in the last few months about what went wrong. About what they could have done differently and the united states could have done differently. Obviously general mccrystal with a very different idea. One that goes against everything that would be publicly acceptable but the idea the united states should have done this smarter, not quicker. Smarter. Its a really interesting way to think about how this could have been a more successful endevour. Theres a lot of that from the generals throughout this documentary. One of the things that occurred to me while reporting on this was the degree to which commanders and this came from a veteran that we interviewed. He talked about how everybody got as for their work but the Car War got an f. Theres manager to be said about the fact that people in afghanistan would get promoted and get medals for saying that they had succeeded in building this School Or Training this group of afghan troops when in reality what they did may have not accomplished anything. You cant get a medal for being candid. You get a medal for achieving something and checking something off on a piece of paper. I hope this makes people think about the Incentive Structure they have in the pentagon and how much is about succeeding for the mission as opposed to succeeding for individual. Smarter, not quicker. Good to have you. Ill hand it over in about 35 minutes. Good to see you. Be sure to join cjake as he asks the tough questions about americas war. The Special Report begins sunday at 9 00 p. M. As America Marks 20 years since the attack on 9 11, ill speak with a Battalion Chief who was the first on the scene when the Plane Hit the World Trade Center. As your broker, ive solved it. Thats great, carl. But we need something better. Thats easily adjustable has no penalties or advisory fee. And we can monitor to see that were on track. Like schwab intelligent income. Schwab introducing schwab intelligent income. A simple, modern way to pay yourself from your portfolio. Oh, thats cool. 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A Weeks Worth of food and water, radio, flashlight, batteries and first Aid Kit are a good start to learn more, visit safetyactioncenter. Pge. Com lit will be 20 years tomorrw since the attack on September 11th. Thousands of american lives. Along with honoring the people in the buildings killed, we remember the thousands of first responders who risk and sacrifice their lives that day. This is video of joseph. He was on the scene on September 11th. Its footage of him putting on his gear. Its from the documentary of 9 11. He was the first new York City Fire Chief on the scene and one of first responders he ordered to rescue people once his younger brother kevin. He was a firefighter and he died that day. Joseph wrote a book titled ordinary heroes and chief joins me now. Thank you for your service over the years and Thank You for being here with me. I imagine that when you are that close to it and you are so s intimately involved that the memories and feelings are never far. Does it feel like its been 20 years . Victor, Thank You for having me and yes, sometimes it feels like its 20 years ago but other times when i go back to the site, it feels just like yesterday. Everything was like yesterday. You wound up at the center of one of the worst days in history. What will you be thinking about tomorrow . Tomorrow, ill be thinking about my firefighters and while many of those have pictures of the towers collapsing, what i remember is firefighters coming into the World Trade Center and coming up to me and asking chief, what do you need me to do . They went upstairs. I asked them to evacuate the Building And Rescue those that couldnt get out. You write i gazed into the distance physically and mentally exhausted. I needed to think, how could skyscrapers vanish into piles of twisted debris. What do i do now in this unthinkable disaster . Aside from the memories, how have you coped over these last 20 years . I think any time we experience violence not only is it the physical violence, its losing control and i was lucky because i was in a position. Almost immediately after the collapse helped build a Command Structure and then for years later rebuilding the Fire Department and having the city and different agencies work together so it wasnt just looking back for me. It was also envisioning a better future. Hundreds of firefighters, first responders lost their lives that day and have lost their lives in the years since from illnesses related to the work they did there at ground zero. What should we be doing for those families . How should we honor them . We should honor them the way we honor our fallen firefighters and first responders that day. They are also our heroes who are suffering post 9 11. We lost 343 firefighters on 9 11 but since that day, we lost more than 250 of our members from post 9 11 cancers and one of those people was my age. Say last name as me. What he had to fight by sitting in the halls of congress to talk to our Congress Members and senators on getting the bill passed and renewed. I think we just cant forget those that are still suffering from that day. Certainly, we wont. The book is ordinary heroes. Thank you for your time. Thank you for your service. Thank you. Cnn will have special coverage of the 20th Anniversary of September 11th attacks. It begins tomorrow at 8 00 a. M. Horrific and imhumane conditions thats how a Class Action Lawsuit filed by families of Nursing Home residents describes the state they were living in during Hurricane Ida. What happens when we Welcome Change . We can make Emergency Medicine possible at 40,000 feet. Instead of burning our past for power, we can harness the energy of the tiny electron. We can create new ways to connect. Rethinking how we communicate to be more inclusive than ever. With app, cloud and anywhere workspace solutions, vmware helps companies navigate change. Faster. Vmware. 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They were being changed in front of Each Other. The kitchen was right next to the portapotties. It was for the feces, urine opinion. It was terrible. They piled the Dirty Linen and dirty diapers in the same place. The whole place wreaked of feces and urine. It was horrible. Sir, thaingnk you for being h me. The lawsuit alleges the owner of the company that manages the seven Nursing Homes mislead the families saying there was plan flp. There was a facility that could accommodate every one and had the necessary elements for medical care, hygiene and that was not true. You were there. What did you see . I got called there right after the storm and what i walked into was pretty horrific conditions. They end up housing over 843 patients in that facility. I think the plan called for about 350. She was correct, the prooevious interviewer. The beds were piled up on Each Other and what kind of struck me, it was me, the mayor and we just walked right in with no credential check. That concerned me for the safety of the citizens living there. It was really horrific and she is correct. There were piles of Dirty Linens and trash next to where they were cooking. It was really a very shocking situation. So after you saw that, what did you do . Immediately, it didnt take me long to realize we had a bad situation. I left the situation and called the speaker of the house. I advised him we had a problem and we needed to get it corrected. Also shocking to our knowledge we didnt know this facility existed. We had no idea that this was going to be an evacuation site. At Tehe End of the day there wa probably 1,000 people in this warehouse because you have workers and support staff. I know that days after the Storm Hit and this information about this facility was exposed that there were till many families who didnt know where their grandmothers, grandfathers were. Do we know if every one has been accounted for yet . To my knowledge they have been and to segue to that position, i received a call that night from one of the fellow State Reps who said i have a constituent we think is housed in the facility. Their family doesnt know if they are alive or sddeceased. I called the kcoroner to see wht the names of the deceased were. They misspelled the Gentlemans Name and he was located in another facility. That shows you the Disarray And Disorder going on after the situation. I will commend the state of la for doing a magnificent job, literally the next day there was probably 150 charter buses and over 100 ambulances called to take the people away. I hear that but the next day doesnt save the seniors from the Torment And Pain they went through in the facility. The sad irony is this Storm Hit 16 years to the day from katrina when we know there were 16 seniors who drowned in that storm and there were supposed to be the legislate ive changes to prevent something like this happening. What needs to happen in next few years when the next storm happens, this doesnt happen to another group of seniors . State representative, Nursing Homes are compensated well and unfortunately for them they are putting their profits over the people. Thats been my position since Day One since ive been in the legislature. I plan on bringing legislation to correct some of the faults we have seen in this process but ultimately im very disappointed in the way the Nursing Homes have responded to treating these people. We plan on taking swift action. I Cant Speak for the Executive Branch but from the legislative branch, we spoke to my colleagues and we plan on taking swift action. All right. Well keep watch. Louisiana state representative, Thank You. Thank you. President biden is fighting back against a Texas Court that found the daca, the program that protects thousands of immigrants who came here as children, unlawful. Well give you the details, next. 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And its just not the White House pushing for more immigrants Rights Today on capitol hill, senate democrats just made their case to include a path to legalization for millions of immigrants as part of their budget reconciliation. Cnn congressional Correspondent Lauren Fox has details. So, tell us more about this. Well, look, victor, this is all put part of that push to get that 3. 5 trillion economic bill through the u. S. Senate as part of that proposal, democrats have been working behind the scenes for many months to try to craft some kind of legislation that would provide some green Card Legalization to immigrants who are in this country. Now, its a much more narrow subset of immigrants who would be able to apply for this. And it includes people like daca recipients, Farm Workers as well as other kinds of Essential Workers in the u. S. That democrats are arguing helped get this country through the pandemic. Now, the reason that they had to meet with the Senate Parliamentarian is there are very strict rules that govern what you can include in a Budget Resolution Reconciliation bill. And i think that that is why democrats met with the Senate Parliamentarian because they are trying to make the case that this fits within the constraints of what they are allowed to do with just 51 votes. And thats the key thing here. Democrats know that they dont have the votes with republicans to pass comprehensive Immigration Reform like they did in 2013. So this is their last hope to try to do something while biden is president in the next two years. So, they met with the parliamentarian today. We are told that this discussion will likely continue, and we dont know when the Senate Parliamentarian will issue her final ruling. But it could have broad significance for whether or not democrats are able to proceed with some kind of Immigration Reform as part that far bigger economic bill they are trying to pass through the u. S. Senate. Well have to see if they have the 50 votes to do it before they get it passed to the president s desk. President biden is pushing back. Critics of his new covid mandates and taking a harder line with the unvaccinated as they continue to fuel this outbreak. Subway® has so much new it didnt fit in our last ad. Like the new artisan italian and hearty multigrain bread. Its the eat fresh refresh™ at subway®. Its so much new theres no time for serena wait, what . sorry, we dont even have time to say they were created by World Class bakers oh, guess we did seriously . my bad. One, two one, two, three only pay for what you need with customized Car Insurance from Liberty Mutual nothing rhymes with Liberty Mutual. Only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. 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There are 350,000 women dying a painful, undignified death globally. And its almost 100 preventible. So this is everything you need to screen and treat a patient. We bring in these big suitcases. We teach local Healthcare Professionals the see and treat technique. At The End of the week of training we pack up that suitcase and give it to the nurses that are going back to their clinics. Within a day we can literally save 20, 30 lives depending on the number of women we screen. There are 8,000 women who are alive and well and able to provide for their families is honestly the most rewarding thing that i could have ever imagined in my life. I think im the luckiest daughter that ever lived. Go to cnnheroes. Com right now to learn dr. Gordons full story and to see her in action. Well, tomorrows u. S. Open womens final will be a battle of the teens when britains Emma Raducanu takes on canadas Leylah Fernandez. Emma is 18 years old. Shes from the uk. Shes playing for her first major title. And her first title of any kind on the Womens Tennis Association tour. 19yearold Leylah Fernandez beat out the worldranked number two player and defending Champion Naomi Osaka on her way to the finals. This is the first time that two teams are playing for the championships since 1999 when Serena Williams defeated martina hingas. And be sure to join me Tomorrow Evening as we revisit the Florida Classroom where President Biden was getting word of the second Plane Hitting the World Trade Center. I speak exclusively with the students now in their late 20s. The lead with Jake Tapper starts right now. Earlier today, we almost got a president ial come at me bro. The lead starts right now. President Biden Standing Firm after a slough of republican governors say theyre going to challenge in court his new vaccine mandates. One even saying hell fight President Biden to The Gates Of Hell over them. A confession in court from a giuliani goon. 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