The White House says they didnt do that because they think it would jam up airports, impede the economic recovery without doing all that much to improve vaccinations because a high proportion of Air Travelers are already vaccinated and all that much covid is not spread because of good Air Filtration systems on planes. In terms of how its going to work, what Joe Biden is counting on here is the threat of fines on businesses applied through osha, the occupational Safety And Health administration, to impose vaccine mandates on large businesses, affecting tens of millions of workers. Theyre also counting on the fact that business itself wants to have the cover to impose some of these mandates. Business roundtable came out tonight saying we support what the administration is doing. Weve got to get aggressive in order to get on top of this. Finally theyre counting on mobilizing the social political pressure of the threequarters of american adults who have gotten vaccinated against the holdouts who havent, who are extending the pandemic, costing everyone money, and generating a significant amount of Suffering And Overload in our Health Care system. So i had to ask you i dont understand the economic Recovery Part of it because remember when we were taking our shoes off, and after 9 11, the economy took a nosedive after 9 11. I should say the Air Travel took a nosedive and people had to take their shoes off and they were worried about that. So if someone has to show a Vaccination Card in order to get on a plane, i dont understand that thinking at all. Well, im just relating what the White House has said. They believe that this would generate enormous tsa lines and make Air Travel more difficult. Again, on a cost benefit analysis, they say the cost would significantly outweigh the benefits. All right. Okay. Lines are long still. You know, maybe hire more tsa workers, get more people back to work, but i digress. Amanda, the president was clearly frustrated today. His speech felt like he was rep remanding The Unvaccinated, saying our patience is wearing thin. Is it the right strategy to convince people who have held out this long to get the shot because we see the badfaith responses from the right already . I dont think the speech was for them. I actually agree with that strategy. At this point in time, given all the covid fatigue among the people who are working so hard at hospitals and really just even look in every sector and try to find people doing the right thing. Theyre frustrated. So biden said, were going to give you some help here. And i think the message was pretty clear. He vented that frustration, and thats, i think, where the majority of people are. 70 of adults have at least one dose. I mean he is on the side of popular opinion here. That said, there are going to be arguments over this. I dont think its bad to have a discussion about the constitutionality of mandates and private business. That is a reasonable discussion that people can have in the courtroom. Henry mcmaster is saying well fight you in the gates of hell. No, really, you can file a legal brief and we can have an adult conversation about this. I welcome that. That moves the conversation among the people who are so opposed to it to a better, more productive realm. But really one of the things im most excited about that isnt really being covered is the fact that testing is coming back. If you have kids under 12 in a house hold, you need access to those rapid tests. Giving help so schools can do that testing on a weekly or somehow more regular basis is going to give a lot of parents more confidence sending the kids to school and just a Peace Of Mind until those vaccines can be approved for children. John, there is a recent Gallup Poll that finds that only 40 of americans say President Biden has communicated a clear plan to combat covid. Do you think that he effectively reset Things Today . I dont think results like that, don, are a function of the clarity of bidens plan. Hes been pretty clear all year long. Get vaccinated. Hes said that over and over, almost every single day of his presidency. I think what that result reflects is the fact that the pandemic is back, and so if it looks like youre not on top of the pandemic, then there are various criticisms people will make of your leadership. And what the president was doing today was an expression of his frustration, you know, amanda talked about the frustration of the vaccinated against The Unvaccinated who are making things harder for everyone else. Its certainly a source of huge frustration for the president because hes been saying over and over get vaccinated. They started in the beginning of the administration where there was more demand for vaccines than there was ability to give them out. And then it was easy, lowhanging fruit once the supply was ample. People rushed to get the vaccines. Now its a situation where theres very ample supply, and theres a whole lot of resistance. And so what hes trying to do is ratcheting up his level of aggression on that continuum from encouragement to requirement, move closer to requirement and try to get people to come along. And if he can do that, if the Delta Variant peaks and the cases start to go down, then youll start seeing his Approval Rating on covid and Peoples Assessment of his clarity improve to his benefit. Amanda, youre the perfect person for this next question. The republican governor of new jersey, Chris Christie, spoke at the Reagan Library. This is part of what he had to say about the gop. We need to face the realities of the 2020 election and learn, not hide from them. We need to renounce the Conspiracy Theorists and the truth deniers, the ones who know better and the ones who are just plain nuts. [ applause ] we need to give our supporters facts that will help them put all those fantasies to rest so everyone can focus with clear minds on the issues that really matter. We need to quit wasting our time, our energy, and our credibility on claims that wont ever convince anyone of anything. So clearly hes thinking about 2024, but how significant is it that hes coming out and saying the gop has to renounce Conspiracy Theorists . Yeah. I mean, listen, those remarks in a vacuum, i would be standing up and cheering if i didnt know the person saying them. The reality is Chris Christie was a strong backer of Donald Trump. You know, i believe he was backing him in the 2020 election after lafayette square, after all the covid hoaxes. So, i mean, it falls a little flat. And at the Reagan Library, its not like hes going to a Trump Rally saying that. Hes at the Reagan Library saying it. The message isnt the problem. The messenger is. Very clear and concise there. Thank you very much, amanda. Thank you, john. I appreciate it. I want to bring in now dr. William schaffner. Hes a professor of Infectious Diseases at Vanderbilt University medical center. And art kaplan, the head of medical ethics and new York Universitys grossman school of medicine. Good to see both of you. So doctor schaffner, a lot of the americans the president has been trying to reach hasnt heard his message. Biden is showing frustration today. Listen, and then well talk about it. The vaccine has fda approval. Over 200 Million americans have gotten at least one shot. Weve been patient, but our patience is wearing thin, and your refusal has cost all of us. So please do the right thing. But just dont take it from me. Listen to the voices of Unvaccinated Americans who are lying in hospital beds, taking their final breath, saying, if only id gotten vaccinated. If only. Its a tragedy. Doctor, when you look at where we are in this pandemic, should this have happened sooner . Well, don, you know, politics, public policy is the art of the possible. This may be the best time to have done it. Think of it as a war against the virus. To date, we have had a Volunteer Army. Those are the people who have come forward to be vaccinated. But the enemy has just been reinforced with delta, and now a Volunteer Army wont do. We have to have a draft. Were saying, youve got to serve not only yourself but your country, your neighbors, your community by coming forward and being vaccinated. I think it is a strong step, a bold step, and i think its a necessary step, and i think it will be an effective step if we can implement these mandates. I think its very important. Thats the question. Can we implement it, because, art, biden says that the new rules will apply to 100 Million americans. His plan includes paid time off to get vaccinated, and companies could face fines if they dont comply. Do you think this can be effectively put into practice . Oh, i think so. Don this is for art. Sorry. Go ahead, art. Start over, please. Sorry. I think were late in getting these mandates through. Ive never been a big fan of volunteerism. There are too many selfish people out there putting the rest of us at risk. Its unethical. Its immoral. The country has every right to say stop this pandemic. Get our economy going. Get us back to school. Get us back to some tolerable level of misery from this virus, and mandates are the key. You know who the strongest proponent was, don, of vaccines . Donald trump. Its his sort of little Dwarf Imitators out there, the desantises and the Ron Johnsons and the Rand Pauls who seem to have forgotten that Donald Trump told us last year, vaccinate, vaccinate, vaccinate, and went out and did it. So can we implement . Yeah, but weve got to go further than President Biden has gone. We need a Vaccine Passport or authorization card. Not going to do us a lot of good to say do this if we cant prove that you did it. And i think to make mandates stick, you basically say its not just a question of being able to go to work. You cant get into a restaurant, a gym, a bar, a sports stadium, a theater without proof of vaccination. I mean i dont want to be talking about this a year from now. We dont really get tough as we roll into the winter with schools open and a lot of kids unable to vaccinate, i worry that the implementation wont get us where we need to be. And a lot of people going people will be in close confines going into the winter. Art, what about the ethics of allocating care and resources like icu beds . Should someone who needs lifesaving Cancer Surgery have to postpone it because someone else refused to get vaccinated for covid . How are these decisions being made . Well, look, my friend dr. Schaffner will know this too. We always teach in medical ethics dont sort out the sinners. Dont punish people who wind up sick. Youre never quite sure did they not get a vaccine because one wasnt available to them or they had a Family Situation where they were just overwhelmed. Its tough sometimes for doctors to make the assessment of whos virtuous and who isnt. So i dont want rationing in the e. R. , in the icu, by Vaccination Status. But what i would accept is if you are not vaccinated and that is leading you to die with less chance of rescue because you have other complicating conditions and someone else might do better, then i think Vaccination Status might be taken into account if it is predictive of outcome. Listen, i dont think anyone expects someone to show up at a hospital and a doctor refuses to vaccinate them. What i have been saying is if you dont believe in it, then perhaps you should not yourself go to a hospital or expect treatment when you have not done what is right. The onus should be on you. If you think its your freedom not to get a vaccine, then when you get sick, then, you know, hey you know, its funny. Im going to kind of remind you, i have said and i said it here, and ive said it before. If you want the courage of your convictions and you dont want to vaccinate, then give your slot, give your position to somebody else. Bear the consequences of what you do. Dont ask the doctors to do it. You do it. Thats exactly what ive been saying. And then, you know, the critics try to do the jedi mind trick. Oh, doctors should its not doctors refusing. Stand by your word and your convictions and what you believe in. If you dont believe that covid is real, then dont show up at the hospital when you get sick with covid. Dr. Schaffner, ill let you respond to that, respond to what art said. Well, don and art, i dont think that will work in real life. When people get sick, they will seek medical care. But i think you heard a Cheer Go Up today from many of the overworked people in Intensive Care Units around the country. Over 90 of the people who are being admitted to hospitals, they are unvaccinated. And these people who are dedicating themselves to the care of those folks are just theyre both frustrated and profoundly saddened that so many of these illnesses could have been prevented. And frankly, they ask the question, why didnt you get vaccinated . Because here you are, sick with covid and exposing me, the Health Care worker, to care for you when none of this was necessary. Mmhmm. So i think the caring will continue, but the hope will be that these mandates will start reducing those unnecessary admissions to the hospital. Listen hey, don art, i want you to answer this. This is not comparable because people get sick. Thats why there are hospitals, right . Thats why there are doctors. But when youre in the middle of a pandemic, it becomes different. Youre overwhelming the Hospital System. If someone is obese or if someone has a Heart Attack or if someone has some other disease and they go to the hospital, or some other illness, it is not comparable to people going to overwhelming hospitals in a pandemic, in emergency situations when there arent beds when it is preventable. So the stupid comparison about, well, what do you say to smokers, whatever, its not the same thing. Its not even comparable. Its apples and oranges. Were in the middle of a plague. I was just going to point out today, i got two stories given to me. One, we had a Kidney Transplant postponed in the united states today. No bed for the person. Youll remember Amy Klobuchar said she put off going in for a Breast Exam and she was worried about covid. There are plenty of facilities around the united states that cant handle a Heart Attack, cant handle a colonoscopy because theyre full of covid patients. So lets at least call out its not just youre overwhelming the medical staff with covid. Youre killing your neighbor. Youre imperiling your friends child. Youre making life miserable for everybody else. I guess ill agree with dr. Schaffner, in the real world were not going to sort of stay, oh, stand aside or hope that theyre going to volunteer to stand aside. But we better turn up the moral rhetoric a lot more on those who are selfish and burdening the community because they wont do the right thing. Yeah. Listen, just because i think selfish people wont do it and i agree with you. Theyre not going to do that. But it doesnt mean they shouldnt hear it or at least think about it. Maybe it will convince them to actually go get a shot somewhere. Thank you, gentlemen. I appreciate it. The doj taking action where the supreme court wouldnt, suing texas over its sixweek Abortion Ban. But can they make the case . For people who could use a lift new neutrogena® rapid firming. 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Since the law went into effect, clinics across texas have stopped offering abortions after six weeks and some have closed down altogether. Lets discuss now with Ana Navarro and scott jennings. Good evening to both of you. So good to see you. Lets get into this. Ana, this Doj Suit against the Abortion Ban is coming days after Governor Greg Abbott signed Voting Restrictions into law. Tonight abbott is saying he will fight back against bidens vaccine mandate. Texas has always been conservative, but these actions move the state clearly more to the right. Is this a Headtohead Showdown with the biden administration, do you think . Oh, i think so. Look, its obvious that its a headtohead, but theres now a lawsuit. You cant get more confrontational in tangible ways than that. Look, i think the biden administration had no choice but to do this because the supreme court didnt take it up when it could have taken it up. So theres a decision coming up on this, and i think, you know, there was also a need for the biden administration to do this because really so many people in texas and across the nation watching this are in distress. Look, the Approval Ratings on abortion have changed not to the same level that Marriage Equality have. But right now its almost 60 of people who think abortions should be legal in most cases, with some exceptions. And this law does not allow for exceptions. It does not allow for a rape exception. It does not allow for an Incest Exception despite the fact that texas is a state with the most number of rapes in the nation. Scott, you say that you think there should be exceptions when, you know, Incest Or Rape are involved. But this new law doesnt allow for that. And when you look at what this law does to women, when you look at how the new Voting Restrictions will impact people of color, does this just narrow republicans even further in the General Public . Is that the point, that the base is all that matters here . Well, i think theres two issues here. Number one, theres the issue of what was the standard republican position on this been for going on 40 years now, and its to be prolife with the exceptions rape, Incest And Life of the mother. As you point out, this seems to go a little farther than that. The other issue is that conservatives over the last several years have felt rather stymied because many State Legislatures and State Governments have passed laws that they think are prolife in nature that would restrict abortions only to see them struck down, only to see them, you know, rolled back in federal court. So what texas goes out and does is they come up with a rather ingenious way around the nullification of prolife laws that weve seen around the country. So theres really sort of the political question of whats the correct political, you know, disposition for a republican to have . I think prolife with the three exceptions is a pretty reasonable political position. But then theres the whole legal question of how do we eventually get to a place where State Governments can do what they want to do and do what their constituents want them to do on protecting life . Mmhmm. So ultimately, don, i think this is the short term question. This was a procedural matter, which most conservative lawyers i know think was decided correctly. The real issue will probably come next year maybe if the supreme court decides to go ahead and overturn roe v. Wade, which would then return the question of Abortion Regulation to the states. I think making this a question of you know, talking about this law as if it had a rape or Incest Exception is not honest, right . Lets talk about the law thats in front of us in texas. It has no exception for rape or incest. Its got a deadline of six weeks. It deputizes anybody, anybody in any state with no connection to the people involved, directly involved, to become Bounty Hunters and get this 10,000 bounty for snitching on somebody. So, you know, a Deer Hunter in alaska could call up the hotline in texas and snitch on some Uber Driver and try to collect the 10,000. It makes no sense. It is absolutely insane. You could be for abortion. You can be against abortion. That doesnt mean that you dont agree that this law is egregious, and it is an overreach. It is crazy. I mean its downright crazy. Mmhmm. Scott, i was going to say the question was, does this narrow the republicans port even further in the General Public, and is that the point of appealing directly just to the base because it doesnt gain republicans any support generally. Well, i think its a question of what state youre in. Ultimately if roe were overturned and this question went back to the state, what voters could do is elect people that match their views on this issue. I think in texas this law has pretty wide support. I think you would Find Support for more restrictive Abortion Laws than the more conservative states and in the bluer states that were more liberal, youd Find Support for more abortionfriendly laws. I think thats ultimately sort of a question its not a national question at that point, don. I think for the republican party at large, we are the prolife party. Thats not a surprise to anybody. And the position of most republicans is what we discussed, prolife with the three exceptions. But there is something to be said for local jurisdiction and for the political questions to be resolved by voters. And so if youre in texas and you dont like this law, you can go out and elect a new legislature and a new governor that will change that law. What democrats have wanted over the years is for courts to essentially own this question and take it out of the hands of the voters. And in texas, theyve come up with a way to get around that. Its really a rather interesting and creative Thing Theyve done. My personal view is that im prolife. I want to see prolife laws. But i also believe in State Governments, and i believe in voters electing State Governments that reflect their views. Im pretty sure in texas theres broad support for what theyve done. Ana, ive got to get to the break here, but when you think about what scott said, lets just say you know, im just a hypothetical here. In texas, the legislature says no. In louisiana, it says yes. Im just giving you a hypothetical. Whats to prevent someone from going over the louisiana Texas State Line and getting it . Ill tell you whats to prevent people. Money. Resources. Access to medical care. Look, if youre a person who doesnt have the money to travel from texas to mexico or New Mexico or louisiana, then youre at a disadvantage. This gets very similar to how the Marriage Equality case was decided, right . In some states you could do it, and some states you couldnt. The supreme court made the thats my point, ana. I understand what youre saying. Whats the point if its illega some places and not legal some places . I think its got some if were honest with each other, the great motivator in peoples beliefs on Abortion And Choice and life, a lot of it has to do from the religious foundation, right . And this is a country where there is a separation of church and state. So, look, i believe in Marriage Equality, but i dont believe i can impose Marriage Equality on the church and force the church to marry lgbtq people. In the same way, i dont think i should be imposing my religious beliefs on other americans because this is not the vatican. It is the united states of america, and we have a separation of church and state. Thank you. Fascinating conversation. Ill have you both back. No icu beds available, not enough staffing. Covid ravaging the state of kentucky. One nurse says its destroying the city where she lives. 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Its bad to the bone. I recommend everybody wash their hands, do what they got to do, stay home. Stay social distanced because its bad. Trust me, its bad. Until you had it, did you think it was bad . No. What did you this inc. It was . I didnt pay it no attention to be honest, but i do now. And get your shots. Reporter Wanda Combs manages the Nursing Staff in the Covid Icu at Appalachian Regional Health Cares largest facility. A nurse for 30 years, the job never tougher. Its been very, very hard, and i get emotional because it is our community. Icu nurses work very hard. They work very hard every day. But you can usually see a difference, so you work hard and you see a difference, and thats okay. You dont care that youre tired. Youve made a difference. So with this, they still work just as hard, harder, and it really hurts when you dont see a difference. Reporter just when they thought they were through the worst of the pandemic, its come roaring back. Patients younger, sicker, harder to treat. The family, you know, its hard for them to realize, oh, you mean this is the end . You really mean this is the end . It is our community. Its people that we know, or we know people theyre related to. So thats whats really hard on the nurses is the emotional part too. Reporter in the Covid Icu here in hazard, every bed taken by those suffering from severe cases of covid19. Every patient intubated except for one. What is this virus doing to places like hazard, kentucky . Its destroying us. Were i mean, everybodys getting it. Everybodys getting sick. Everybodys were just seeing a lot of it now. Reporter Appalachian Regional Health Care has 13 facilities across Eastern Kentucky and west virginia. Its entire system now overwhelmed by covid. We have no icu beds available, zero. Zero . Zero. Across 13 facilities . Across 13 facilities, we have zero icu beds available. We have 35 patients waiting in our e. R. S for beds. Reporter today, Appalachian Regional Health Care has three regular beds available across its entire system. Theyve cleared space and made for 200 beds that sit empty, unable to staff them. We have applied for Fema Disaster medical teams at multiple of our hospitals. Our understanding is right now that louisiana is in dire need, and so most of their teams are there. So we are on the list, and once they have availability, we hope that we will be able to get support. Reporter the Hospital System needs 170 Nurses Today to open up extra beds. Nurses now working longer hours and doubling up on patients just to keep up. One Respiratory Therapist should comfortably have four Ventilator Patients because we work with the nurses as well. But right now i have about seven to eight ventilators per Respiratory Therapist. Reporter here in hazard, patients are coming in younger and sicker than nurses have ever seen. Younger patients than we did bef very sick actually for their age. Reporter so where we are standing right now is perry county, and today, right now, this place has one of the highest rates of transmission for covid cases in the entire country. The Hospital System thinks that those cases and hospitalizations for them will continue to rise through late september, maybe into october, and then hopefully theyll begin to come down. And i know i will sound like a broken record here. But more than 95 of the patients who are admitted to this Hospital System with covid19 are unvaccinated. Don . Thank you, miguel. Appreciate that. Just days away from the California Recall Election, were going to go to one county where Governor Gavin Newsom is facing an uphill battle to keep his job. Meone brainy on tv im an actual neuroscientist. And i love the science behind Neuriva Plus. Unlike ordinary memory supplements, Neuriva Plus fuels six key indicators of Brain Performance. More Brain Performance . Yes, please neuriva. Think bigger. 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Call one eight hundred, Eight Million only five days left until the California Recall Election as democratic Governor Gavin Newsom fights to hold on to his job. Hes facing an uphill battle in one of the bluest states reddest counties. Cnns Lucy Kafanov has more. Reporter in one of the countrys bluest states, Kern County stands out as a rare bastion of red. It may be less than two Hours North of hollywood by car, but the city of bakersfield is on the other side of the spectrum politically. Newsom out, elder in. Reporter its where youll find americas last woolworths luncheonette counter, serving up burgers, shakes, and a side of nostalgia. California was once a really nice place. Governor newsom says a lot of things, but he does all bad things. Reporter when it comes to Governor Gavin Newsom, some of the diners here have had their fill. If theres not a change, my wife and i, were out of here. Really . Were leaving the state. Reporter many republicans here think their voices arent heard. No, i dont think so. No, not really. Reporter to some degree, theyre right. Thank you, california. Reporter in 2018, just 41 of Kern County voters went for newsom. The best is yet to come. Reporter but he won the state by a landslide. Now republicans are hoping to flip the governors office, an Uphill Battle In A State where registered Democrats Outnumber republicans nearly 2 to 1. Sometimes i wonder if its worth voting because, you know, my voice may not be heard, or both of us feel like, okay, is it really going to matter in california . Its always going to be democrats. Reporter at the Kern County Gop Headquarters did you get that in the mail . Reporter theyre trying to change that with phone calls, ballot dropoffs, and yard signs. The outcome is anyones guess. This is an odd time of year to have an election, september 14th. But weve had people pouring in here for the last two weeks. Reporter Kern County Gop Member Kathy Abernathy says republican voters are energized. You have some ballots for me . I do. Reporter and shes hoping for a boost from independents and some democrats. These extremes produce a switch in parties, and i dont believe all the democrats in california are of the same philosophy of the democrats in that state capitol building. Reporter with just a few days left to convince california to change track, Larry Elder is banking on bakersfield. Lucy kafanov, cnn, bakersfield, california. Now i want to bring in cnns senior political analyst ron brownstein. You heard one republican woman tell lucy she wonders if its even worth voting, asking if her vote matters in a Big Blue State like california. Republicans may be outnumbered there, but this isnt a typical election. What are you watching for . Right. I mean the one republican hope in pulling this off was that turnout would be very low. But, in fact, newsom has regained the upper hand in this race and energized democrats over the summer, partly because he spent a lot of money and partly because hes had a lot of help from bigname National Democrats from Barack Obama to Eliz Bernie sanders, to elizabeth warren. He has turned around this race by leaning into his support for Mask And Vaccine mandates and portraying and attacking republicans for promising to repeal those mandates on day one. 6. 8 million people have already voted. If you get much above 10 million, certainly 11 million, you simply run out of republicans in the state, and the fact that newsom has been able to energize democrats by leaning into and not being defensive about mandates, i think is very instructive, and i think you perhaps saw one of the ripples in the very strong, much stronger stance that President Biden took today, not only in his proposals but in his language about The Unvaccinated. The vaccinated, as i said to you a few weeks ago, have kind of had it across party lines with The Unvaccinated. I think you are seeing that play out in practice in california. Mmhmm. Ron, Larry Elder is now baselessly raising the possibility of election shenanigans. Any surprise to you that hes going there . Its quite ominous because not only is he doing that, but you have a case where one of the republican possible senate candidates in nevada is already talking about preemptive lawsuits against fraud. We are moving into a period where essentially any election republicans lose, youre going to have a substantial part of the party claiming fraud. And thats why, look, i mean democrats face an existential by passing some version of h. R. 1 through the senate. I mean theres no more consequential decision they face on whether Manchin And Sinema will agree to create some kind of carveout because this is only a small preview of whats ahead. I do think its a preview also this recall is a preview also in the way that newsom has talked about mandates. This is a big change in terms of going on the offense around this. You know, last year republicans ran against democrats for closing things down and locking things down. But newsom has been able to argue its the republican position that threatens to close down schools or businesses because by undoing Vaccine Or Mask mandates, you would allow the virus to get to that point. Hes leading 2 to 1. Twothirds of voters who are vaccinated in california says they are opposing the recall, including about onefifth of vaccinated republicans. You see Terry Mcauliffe Making Arguments across this like the country. In virginia, hes up 20 points among residents who are vaccinated. Republicans right now are kind of boxing themselves into this corner of standing up for the, quote, rights and, quote, choices of The Unvaccinated minority. 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