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Openly defies the u. S. Constitution. And police are expected to reinstall fencing around the u. S. Capital as they share new Security Information with lawmakers. Deep concerns about potential violence, rising right now just nine days before a Rally Support that January 6th rioter. We want to welcome our viewers around the united states and around the world. Im wolf blitzer. Youre in the situation room. This is cnn Breaking News. Lets go to the Breaking News. Kaitlyn collins is joining us right now. The president is taking some very aggressive new actions to try to get more americans vaccinated. Yeah, wolf. And hes taking these aggressive actions because one thing that was clear in the room just now as the president was speaking and addressing the nation about this state of the pandemic is that he is frustrated. He says we are now in a tough stretch here in the u. S. He thinks this is a period that could last for a while. He said 80 Million americans have, quote, failed to get the Coronavirus Vaccine, wolf. And you could hear that frustration in his voice as he was laying out these next steps that hes taking. Steps that we should note what you are about to hear from the president are ones he had initially been reluctant to do to pursue those Vaccine Mandates for federal employees. To get into the private sector involves whether or not those are vaccinated or taking weekly testing. The president is frustrated that so many americans have not gotten a vaccine that has proven to be safe and effective and of course is also free that he now feels he has to take these measures. He laid out several steps he feels could help the u. S. Get out of this slump they are in when it comes to covid19. Many of us are frustrated with the nearly 80 Million americans who are still not vaccinated, even though the vaccine is safe, effective and free. This is not about freedom or personal choice. Its about protecting yourself and those around you. The people you work with, the people you care about, the people you love. My job as president is to protect all americans. So tonight im Anounouncing Tha The Department Of Labor is developing an Emergency Rule to require all employers with 100 or more employees that together employ over 80 Million workers to ensure their workforces are fully vaccinated. Or show a negative test at least once a week. Some of the biggest companies are already requiring this, united airlines, disney, Tysons Food and even fox news. The bottom line were going to protect vaccinated workers from unprotected wo corkers. Tonight im using that same authority to expand those who work in hospitals, Home Health Care facilities or other medical facilities. A total of 17 Million Health Care workers, if you are seeking care at a health facility, you should be able to know that the people treating you are vaccinated. Simple, straightforward, period. Next i will sign an Executive Order that will now require all Executive Branch federal employees to be vaccinated. All. I have signed another Executive Order that will fire federal contractors to do the same. If you want to work with the federal government and do business with us, get vaccinated. If you want to do business with the federal government, vaccinate your workforce. We have been patient, but our patience is wearing thin. And your refusal has cost all of us. So please do the right thing. But just dont take it from me. Listen to the voices of Unvaccinated Americans who are lying in hospital beds taking their final breath saying, if only i had gotten vaccinated. If only. Its a tragedy. Please dont let it become yours. Pretty blunt language there from the president , wolf. As you could see, he was appealing directly to those people who have not yet gotten vaccinated and laying out these steps which is essentially a mix of executive actions and new federal rules to try to get more people to get vaccinated through their workplaces. That is a big aspect, of course, of the steps that the president is taking here. There could be more to come in the coming weeks, potentially next month on this. I think that raises the question of whether or not he takes this a step further because this rule that hes announcing today for these private companies that is going through the Department Of Labor, that is something that already was at the place of the federal government. Those federal workers had to either be vaccinated or get regularly testing. Now they risk losing their jobs. So the question is whether or not this rule from the Department Of Labor they think can eventually change to just be you have to be vaccinated if you have 100 or more employees at your workplace, but we dont know the answers to that yet, wolf. Those will be questions to come as well as the implementation of all this because with this department of Labor Rule we should note if these companies do not comply with this new rule, which we expect them to officially unveil in the coming weeks, they could face Tens Of Thousands of dollars in fines per employee if they violate this rule. I also want to bring in our chief medical correspondent, dr. Sanjay gupta. A key member of the vaccine advisory committee. Sanjay, how far will these few measures, including Vaccine Mandates go in actually combatting this pandemic . Well, wolf, im not sure because we dont know exactly of the 100 Million or so people that may be affected by some of these plans that kaitlyn was outlining, how many of them have already been vaccinated or how many already have some form of immunity. But if you look at the country as a whole and say 25 of adults are not vaccinated, that would mean 25-million'>25 Million of them may be affected by this. That makes a difference. I think there is two issues, though. One is it wont make a difference right away because it takes a while for that immunity to kick in. And were in a tough spot right now. Three and a half times the number of cases this year compared to this point last year. Twice as many deaths right now compared to this point last year. So it is a tough spot and these Plans Wont have that sort of impact. Also it is interesting because i think oftentimes the idea of mandated vaccine or get tested regularly are sort of comingled as the same thing. But mandating a vaccine or getting tested regularly, theyre not the same thing. One is preventing the infection. The other is diagnosing it after its already occurred. So a lot of people may just take that off ramp of just getting tested instead of getting vacc vaccinated. That also does not really address the problem as well. It prolongs the pandemic. Really quickly, sanjay, do we know of the 80 Million americans who have refused to even get a shot, one vaccine, do we know how many of them have had covid . Because a lot of them say i had covid. I already have immunity. I dont need to get vaccinated. This is a really important topic i think a lot of times its not discussed. We dont know what percentage of that 80 Million has had previous covid infection, but it could be a significant number. When we dont have enough testing of antibodies to know that. And there has been data coming out suggesting pretty significant benefit with the immunity you get from a natural infection. Let me clear, though and preface by saying that no one going out getting immunity is a natural strategy because you know what happens. Hospitals are overwhelmed. It is a terrible strategy. But if your question, wolf, is, okay, i have already had it. Now what . And there is evidence that it provides good protection, now what . Well, i think the data still sort of coming i would be curious to see what the doctor says, but what the data seems to suggest is perhaps you could treat that infection if it is documented and clear that you had a covid infection, you could treat that as a prime shot and then you still should get at least one shot of the vaccine as your boost. That would give you the best protection. So still vaccinated. Maybe one shot instead of two. But even those with covid in the past should still get vaccinated because they would get better protection that way. Let me hear what dr. Ahbed has to say. Thats exactly right. And there are data in people who have gotten say one dose to show you have a clear boost in immunity arguing you dont need that second dose. But i think what President Biden has done is a really important step. Hes put his Finger Right on what the problem is in this country, which is there is a critical percentage of people who are simply saying they dont want to be vaccinated. The only way you will get them vaccinated is to compel them with mandates. I agree with dr. Gupta that the optout could be or the popoff could be that you could just get tested, which is obviously not the same thing. There is no good reason not to get a vaccine. There is a lot of bad reasons and people shouldnt use those bad reasons not to get it. Kaitlyn, the president also addressed the issue of Air Travelers who refused to wear masks and caused a certain ruckus on trains. Tell our viewers what he said. This has been a big question. One thing he did not say today after leaving is room is whether or not ever considering requiring a vaccine or a negative Test Result to take a domestic flight is an option thats on the table. We know Thats Something that some people have called for. But he did talk about that requirement to wear a mask when you are on the plane. And these remarkable videos that we have seen throughout this pandemic of people fighting Flight Attendants over this mandate and the president was saying they were doubling those mask fines. But he also, wolf, had some anger about these videos that so many people have seen. This is what he said. Today, tonight, im announcing that the Transportation Safety administration, the tsa will double the fines on travelers that refuse to mask. If you break the rules, be prepared to pay. And by the way, show some respect. The anger you see on television toward Flight Attendants and others doing their job is wrong. Its ugly. I think thats a sentiment that a lot of people share, wolf. We should note those fines are going from a range of 250 to 1,500 to 500 to 3,000. Yeah. A lot of money. Doctor, did the president clear up the confusion thats clearly still out there, the confusion that vaccinated americans have about when and if they should actually seek this third Booster Dose of the Coronavirus Vaccine . Well, i think that hopefully will be cleared up when the fda vaccinated advisory committee meets on September 17th and we review the data that has sparked that recommendation. And then the cdc will take it from there to see whether or not they want to make that recommendation. I would love to see modeling from the cdc to look at to what extent you significantly decrease the Con Tagousness Index of this virus, the spreadability of this virus by giving someone like me who has received two doses a third dose as compared to just doing what we need to do which is i think what President Biden just said, which is vaccinate the unvaccinated because i worry if you are trying to take 170 Million americans who have already been vaccinated and you want to give them the third dose is that really where you want to spend your time and money right now compared to what hes doing, which is lets get the unvaccinated vaccinated. Still 160,000 americans every day are coming down with covid. At The End of june, it was about 11,000 or 12,000 a day. This time thanks to this Delta Variant has really exploded. Yeah. I mean, i think that its the Delta Variant, which is far more contagious, and it is the fact that you get a large percentage of the country unvaccinated. Its really something, wolf, to think about. Again, these numbers at this point this year compared to last year, if you would have told me last year here is where were going to be a year from now, i would have thought, oh, i guess we havent got to the point where we authorized the vaccine. Thats the only way you could explain why the numbers would be that high rate now. Hopefully as, you know, everyone has said, i hope these measures make an impact ultimately. It wont be right away, but i hope they make an impact ultimately. I certainly do as well. Thank you very, very much. Just ahead, how effective was the president s speech . Will it translate to more shots in arms among people who dont trust the vaccine . The Breaking News continues right here in the situation room. Craft . Yes heartiness . Yes living life to the flavorfullest . Heck yeah. Panera. Live your yes. Free delivery on our app. At usaa, weve been called too exclusive. Because we only serve those who honorably served. 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A lot of folks who are against any kind of mandates are going to be offended by that, and they know it over at the White House, but this was a dramatic speech given by a president who believes it is his duty to protect the american people. And, so, he has been criticized, and i think rightly so, for being unclear about what he was going to do because of the Delta Variant and what needs to be done in business, and you have heard him say business needs to do more, and now hes saying business has to do more. So i think he came out and said, okay, here are my six steps. Will everyone listen to him . Will people who are the 25 who are committed to not taking the vaccine change their minds . Probably not. Maybe some. But as a president ial statement, i think he came out and said, look, this is a problem. We want to get the economy going. On july 4th, the president said, we have gained the upper hand. And now because of the Delta Variant, hes coming out and saying, we need to do more. And if you wont do it on your own, i have a certain authority as president , and im going to use it. Youre right. David, the president also is calling out the unvaccinated and pandemic politics, as he calls it. But could this potentially backfire and leave the unvaccinated to dig in even more . You know, it might, wolf. But what was the alternative really . You describe this as a political gamble. But i think the gamble would have been not to do this. As gloria mentioned, the president basically said were on the right track on july 4th. And its not just delta that put us on the wrong track, it is the stubborn resistance of some group of americans who get vaccinated. And, you know, i think he had to he had two objectives here. One is to get control of the virus. The other is to get control of the story and to make clear that he has that he is taking strong steps here and that had to include some requirements. What was interesting was in the entire speech, the one word you didnt hear was mandate. He talked about requirements. And of course we have all kinds of requirements that we have to meet as people in our society. And he mentioned he talked about these as requirements, but they are mandates. They will be resisted. He interestingly stood behind the educators who were going to enforce who are trying to enforce Mask Mandates against unvaccinated children in schools and are now facing retribution from governors who see a political damage in standing up with the antimask movement. Basically the president said, weve got your back. You are not going to lose your paycheck. Were going to stand behind you. So that was interesting as well. But i think he had to do what he did today. He needed to make clear that that he has his arms around this and he is doing everything he can to bring this virus down. And he knows and they know in the White House that his Poll Numbers are going down on the question of how he has handled the virus. And i think part of the reason he gave this Speech Today is to say, look, here is what we have done for you. Here is how far we have come. Weve got over 175 Million vaccinated. And On And on. We have made a lot of progress. But youre going to need to do more. And then he you know, you could see his frustratiOn And his anger in a way when he asked, what more is there to wait for . What more do you need to see . You know, you see that people are dying. And its the unvaccinated people who are dying. So it was a president pleading with the american public to do more, but also saying, look, as a leader, this is what i can do and this is what i can do in an Executive Order, and i intend to do it to save us and to save our economy and to save americans lives. Yeah. Yeah, i do think, wolf, that the anger that he expressed, the frustration that gloria describes is reflective of many people in this country who have been vaccinated and feel like they have done everything right. So i think he was speaking to a majority of americans here. And most of the people who are in hospitals right now with covid are unvaccinated. Almost all of them. And certainly and sadly those who die about 1,400, 1,500 a day are unvaccinated. Very sad indeed. The Breaking News continues. The Justice Department now suing texas over its restrictive new abortion law. Well take a close R R Look at it all might play out when we come back. Bon appetit. Hey kim, you earn 5 on travel purchased through chase way ahead of you. Hey neal, you can earn 3 at drug stores buddy, im right here. Why are you yelling . 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The Justice Department has sued the state of texas arguing this law is unconstitutional and that the Justice Department, they say, has a responsibility to vindicate the rights of women and these clinics. But, wolf, this law was designed specifically to deflect legal challenges. We see some of those challenges present themselves here. For example, theyre suing the state of texas, but the state has previously pointed out in other litigation that its not responsible for enforcing this law. Instead, this law deputizes any citizen of texas to take action against anyone who aids or abets someone trying to obtain an abortion after six weeks. In his press conference, the Attorney General talked about why that makes it difficult to bring legal challenges about his results, so exactly why he needs to bring this lawsuit. Lets take a listen to what he said. The statute includes an unprecedented scheme to, in the chief justices words, quote, insulate the state from responsibility, close quote. It does not rely on the states Executive Branch to enforce the law as is the norm in texas and everywhere else. Rather, the statute deputizes all private citizens without any showing of personal Connection Or Injury to serve as boun ty hunters, authorized to recover at least 10,000 per claim from individuals who facilitate a womens exercise of her constitutional rights. It is not clear right now if bringing a lawsuit against a state which cant technically enforce the law or people who may try to enforce it in the future, if thats going to be successful in bringing the kind of relief that providers would need to start once again providing abortions after six weeks. You see, the Attorney General, wolf, is trying to make this about something bigger, about constitutional issues and trying to stop states from passing similar laws designed to get around the courts. They will first go before a federal judge in texas. Then they could go to the conservative fifth circuit. If the case continues, it will go back before the supreme court where a majority of justices already declined to stop this law from going into effect. While they have not ruled on whether it is constitutional, it is unclear if they will take this opportunity to decide that question. We should see soon enough. Paula reed, stay with us. I want to bring in laura coats as well. Laura, does the federal government have standing here, standing, legal standing, and do you think the Justice Department will be successful in this challenge . Theyre making a very persuasive case here. Ill tell you why. This is such an obvious End Run around the judicial process. I mean, imagine a legislature thats unchecked now because there is no oversight, no opportunity to have judicial review and as Merrick Garland articulated today, the idea that somebody does not have recourse in the moments they actually need it. But whats interesting about the choice for the basis of bringing this lawsuit is something we have been saying over the last week now is even an Uber Driver could be swept under this dragnet. That ambiguous definition of aiding Abetted Lead the da to draw this conclusion. It is so wide now that federal employees, like the Defense Department or issues of Medicare And Medicaid services, refugee programs, the labor department, the idea of all these different things, Job Core he named are presumably under that same dragnet, that federal liabilities could be under civil liability because theyre carrying out their own directives. He talked about the idea of the Supremacy Clause which says there is a Hierarchy And Constitution and federal law is up there, but also about the idea of the doctrine of intragovernmental immunity. A fancy way of saying you dont get to intrude on our rights and the federal government to carry out our responsibilities. So in this way, that same tactic of having a very vague, very broad definition to aid and abet, it is exactly what invited the Justice Department to bring this suit because if Uber Drivers and Lift Drivers and receptionists and rape counselors and attorneys trying to assist all could fall under the civil liability, then how about federal employees as well . It is a very creative argument and it brings them back in front of the courts where they should be. All right, guys. Thank you very much. Just ahead, new details on a major Security Threat right here in washington, d. C. , amid plans to reinstall Perimeter Fencing at the u. S. Capital just ahead of a right Wing Rally in defense of the insurrectionists. We look at how much youve saved, how much youll need, and build a straightforward plan to generate income, even when youre not working. A plan that gives you the chance to grow your savings and create Cash Flow that lasts. Along the way, well give you ways to be tax efficient. 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Bumpadum, Bumbumbumbum Tonight were learning new details about plans to reinstall Perimeter Fencing at the u. S. Capital amid deep Security Concerns sparked by an upcoming right Wing Rally. Cnn is joining us right now with more. Melanie, Security Officials are not taking this rally next week lightly at all. Theyre deeply concerned. Thats right. It is easy to see why Law Enforcement officials are taking this threat so seriously. An internal Capital Police Memo shows there has been an uptick in violent rhetoric surrounding this rally. There have been particularly heated discussions centered on ashley babbot. And her attorney has been invited to speak at the rally. Meanwhile, members of the proud boy have been encouraging their followers to attend. There has been White Supremacy images used in connection with this event online. It is not unreasonable to plan for violent altercations. Now, Security Preparations are fully underway on Capitol Hill. The Capital Police have formally requested that the temporary Fencing Return around the capital. That is likely to be approved even as it generates pushback from republicans. And it will be all Hands On Deck that day. Meanwhile, Security Briefings are underway on the hill. Speaker pelosi invited the top four congressional leaders to attend everything in her office on monday. And cnn learned that Rank And File Capital Police officers will get an update from their leadership tomorrow morning. There is a clear effort here to be more upfront about the types of potential threats facing Capitol Hill and everyone is taking this very seriously because nobody wants a repeat of January 6th. Everyone is really nervous, i can assure you. I have heard the same thing. Thank you very, very much. Lets bring in our senior Law Enforcement analyst, the former fbi deputy director, the author of the book the threat how the fbi protects america in the age of terror and trump. Andrew, is it the right call to install this pretty ugly fencing around the u. S. Capital just ahead of this rally . It is absolutely the right call, wolf. And i can tell you that having been in that position at The End of my career leading the fbi, having had to make those sort of Security Arrangement assessments and recommendations, were i still at work, i would be asking for the same sort of measures that it seems Capital Police are asking for. But we all know that the Capital Police got caught offhanded on January 6th. They werent prepared for the size of the rally. They certainly werent prepared for the pviolence they experienced. I would take the exact same approach if i were them. As you know, Rank And File Capital Police officers will get a special briefing on all of this tomorrow morning. How important is that type of preparation for these officers . They faced, as you correctly pointed out, incredible violence back on January 6th. Wolf, one of the key failures that led to the situation on January 6th was a failure of adequate Intelligence Sharing and preparation to those officers, right . We have seen that Capital Police is now dedicated to rebuilding and making their Intelligence Infrastructure and dissemination among their own folks more robust. It appears they are doing exactly that. Im sure they have a long way to go, but theyre not waiting. They are making sure that their Rank And File, their men and women who are going to be out there in harms way understand the threat that they might face and i would hope have the proper Equipment And Training to defend themselves and the capital. What else can Law Enforcement do now, andrew, as possible deterrents to discourage Anyone Thinking of coming to this rally . I would expect, wolf, that the fbi is taking some fairly provocative steps with the domestic violent extremists that are already under investigation. Theyre trying to determine whether those folks are planning on traveling to the capital. They maybe, you know, knocking on doors and interviewing people trying to get a sense of what their plans might be around the rally. And in the event they find some of their more concerning subjects are thinking about coming, they might have a very frank conversation with them in which they strongly suggest they should not attend. Of course, it is ultimately their decision as to whether they will come and exercise their first amendment rights. So im sure that they are looking at those folks that they are most concerned about. And keep in mind, wolf, all of these criminal cases that have resulted from the January 6th insurrection have generated in addition to evidence to be used in those cases, theyre also generating intelligence about people, about networks, about people who are like minded and may be communicating and planning things like this. So i would expect that the fbi and dhs and all their partners are in a much better Situation Today than they were in january. Just ahead of the September 11th 20 anniversary this saturday, the nypd Intelligence Chief says the current Threat Level is, quote, exponentially complicated by the events in afghanistan. How worrisome is this . Well, i think, you know, for all the attention that we have been paying to domestic violent extremists over the last few months and the last few years, all of which was worthy and appropriate, it is important to remember that the threats we face from foreign terrorists have not gone away. I think what you have is nypd reacting very defensively to make sure they are not going to be caught short on this very important anniversary of September 11th. Security is going to be intense. Andrew mccabe, thank you very, very much. Coming up, kim jongun shows off his dramatic Weight Loss at a military parade. 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Right now were following news out of North Korea where the military there is diverting from its usual Play Book while kim jongun is showing off his dramatic Weight Loss. It looks like the Kim Regime is using his appearance potentially for propaganda. Clearly lost considerable weight. Previously there were questions about his health and the regime is eager to show off his new look. A Midnight Parade in pyongyang. An event commemorating the 73rd anniversary of North Koreas founding. And at the stroke of midnight thursday, a surprise appearance. The countrys 37yearold dictator kim jongun in a tailored light colored suit looking he lost weight. We are not used to that. In some ways, we saw that as the biggest risk to the North Korean leadership was his health. Its interesting now the regime has used his Weight Loss in its prop propaganda. Our footage shows him appearing drinks. The western style suit, the confidence could be an effort to channel his late grandfather, the founder of North Korea, who remains a wildly popular figure there. His grandfather was something the norm koreans have Respect And Affection for. I see during times of hardship and trouble, he works to evoke the memory of his grandfather. The parade features the rows of soldiers in cadence, paratroopers in the night sky, Aircraft Firing flares. With a notable feature missing. This time, no missiles on display. No references to Motheir Nuclea capabilities. Instead, Fire Trucks, dogs, horses and marchers in orange Hazmat Suits. What media described as the Emergency Disease Prevention unit. The focus is to demonstrate kims handling of the pandemic and Hazmat Suits and dogs and Fire Trucks and horses apparently are better for manipulating the narrative of successful pandemic management. North korea claims it had no cases of covid19, something analysts say is unlikely. Kim cant sidestep their status of a rogue community. They are banning North Korea from participating in the Winter Olympics in beijing, at least under the countrys official name, because of their decision not to send athlete to the Summer Games in tokyo. Missing the olympics, not once but twice in the space of a year, is a terrible missed opportunity for North Korea. I think because they have been in this Emergency Lockdown State with the pandemic, they will have to pay the price of being relegated to a nonplayer, a nonactor. Analysts say despite this pageantry, his appearance, North Korea is probably worse off internally than the world realizes. During the pandemic, North Koreas border with china has been closed off. Food, revenue, other resources have not been getting in. North korea ns are likely in moe desperate straits than normal. Thank you very much. More breaking Pandemic News coming into the situation room. The second largest School District Voting just moments ago to mandate covid19 vaccines for all eligible students. Lets go to our national Correspondent Nick Watt in Los Angeles. What happened . Reporter all eligible, as you say, 12 years and up. The reason this is a big day, l. A. Unified is a massive school district. More than half A Million kids. Will other districts follow the lead of Los Angeles . There is some nuance in this. The basic deal is that all kids are going to have had their first shot just before thanksgiving and second shot by just before christmas. If a kid turns 12 during the school year, they will have two months to get both doses. The evidence that the Board Members cited in favor of taking this decision, they say pediatric Hospitalization Rates have gone up fivefold between june and august. They say Hospitalization Rate in 12 to 17yearolds is ten times for the unvaccinated as opposed to the vaccinated. The public Comment Section was a microcosm of what elected officials are facing across this country. We had people saying that the board is taking away parents rights to do what they want to do with their kids. Some people were saying, can we sue if our kids suffer Side Effects . Some people saying, we dont want our children to be experimented on. They said, you cant experiment on animals anymore. You are not going to experiment on our kids. There was some just basic ignorance. People saying that the vaccine is experimental. Its not. Saying it hasnt been approved. It has. They were saying to the board, listen, when you are parents, you can make decisions for your own kids but dont make those decisions for ours. In rebuttal to that, the medical director of the district said, i am a parent as well. She summed it up. Kids learn best inside classrooms. Vaccines work. Was there fiery debate among the Board Members . Re nick . One Board Member said, im old enough to remember polio. A kid in my third Grade Class lost his arm to polio. Vaccines stop that. Another Board Member said, we want to keep kids in school. Another Board Member said, you know what . I come down on the side of medical science, not political science. Nick watt in Los Angeles, very important news. Thank you very much. Coming up, the countdown to the california recall election. We will go to one county where the governor is facing an uphill battle to keep his job. With five days to go until the california recall election, the governor is facing an uphill battle in one of the bluest states reddest counties. Reporter in one of the countrys bluest states, Cokern County is rare. Its red. Bakersfield is on the other side of the spectrum politically. Its where you will find americas last woolworth lunch counter. Serving burgers, shakes and nostalgia. California was once a nice place. The governor said things but he does bad things. Reporter when it comes to the governor, some of the diners have had their fill. Theres not a change, my wife and i, were out of here. We are leaving the state. Reporter many republicans think their voices arent heard. No. I dont think so. No. Not really. Reporter to some degree, they are right. In 2018, just 41 of voters went for newsom. He won the state by a landslide. Now republicans are hoping to flip the governors office. An Uphill Battle In A State where registered Democrats Outnumber republicans two to one. I wonder if its worth voting. My voice may not be heard. Both of us often feel like, is it really going to matter in california . Its always going to be democrats. Reporter at the gop headquarters, they are trying to change that with phone calls, ballot dropoffs and yard signs. The outcome is anyones guess. This is an odd time of year to have an election, september 14. We have had people pouring in here for the last two weeks. Reporter kathy says republican voters are energized. Shes hoping for a boost from independents and some democrats. These extremes produce a switch in parties. I dont believe all the democrats in california are of the same philosophy as in the state capital building. Reporter with a few days left, Larry Elder is banking on bakersfield. This was Larry Elders third visit to bakersfield which shows how much he is counting on republican support there. Another interesting thing. Nearly every republican voter we spoke to expressed some sense of skepticism about this vote. They are worried about fraud. Many telling us they will wait until september 14th, election day, to hand deliver their ballots in person. Thanks for watching. Erin burnett Out Front starts right now. Biden telling the unvaccinated, your refusal is costing all of us. Sweeping measures requiring vaccines for government and private workers. Will it be enough . Inside the dangerous online world where Conspiracy Theories about the vaccine run rampant. We will talk to the people spreading the lies. Trump gearing up for a Boxi Boxing Match on 9 11, announcing who he would like to take on. Taking on the unvaccinated. President bide

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