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Good evening. Two major events we are following at this moment both involving President Biden and bothll pivotal moments that may influence american livelihoods and prosperity. One later this week involves an address to the nation about the administrations fight against the coronavirus. Well have more on that. Well start with the other major event, President Bidens tour this afternoon of the stormdamaged northeast. Stops in New York and New Jersey where most of the at least 52 people who died from the remnants of hurricane ida. There was a chance to meet those in Need And Distress and back up to try to push major Agenda Setting Items specifically an Infrastructure Bill with nominal republican support and a separate bill loaded with democratic priorities collectively worth trillions of dollars. One of those priorities a push to battle Climate Change, which the President Today spoke of in stark terms. And so, folks, weve got to listen to the scientists and the economists and the national security experts. They all tell us this is code red. The nation and the world are in peril. Well talk to new York Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasiocortez about that. But first our chief white House Correspondent Kaitlan Collins who traveled with President Biden today. Kaitlan, who did the president see and what was accomplished . Reporter anderson, it was the damage up close. Keep in mind, this is his second trip to somewhere that was hit by ida in a week. Last week it was louisiana. Today he traveled seven or eight states up to the north and to the right to see New York and New Jersey. It was devastating, anderson. Its really hard to overstate the level of damage that we saw especially when we got our start in the lost Valley Neighborhood of manville, New Jersey this morning. There were stacks of debris, anderson, in every single yard. Some of them were taller than i am. It was rotted dry wood, ruined furniture, childrens toys that were covered in mud. I even at one point saw Christmas Ornaments littered across the ground. Just every house that had been devastated by the flooding that they saw last week. In New Jersey and some areas turned into fires and explosions. The president at one point was talking to one woman who we also spoke with as well when they came up to the reporters and the cameras who luckily she has a monthmonthold baby, anderson, and she was not there that night. They had gotten a headsup, so they left the area just in case because of all the rain. Part of her Daughters Nursery was still there where their house was. Part of it was down the street. Ping it had been washed away. As they were talking to us, you could see their front door with the Tv Resting on it. Everything is destroyed that these people had. Now they are left to deal with that destruction and that was one woman that the president had spoken with. Then later on we went to queens where of course we saw a lot of devastation with flooding there. We were in an alley between two rows of homes. A lot of homes in New York have Basement Units where its the basement that the family used or an entirely separate unit that another family lives in. We saw several of those families, spoke with them as well as they were telling president about their experiences last week, anderson. Where several of those people in those Basement Units, those lowlying dwellings, were trapped in their homes and died because they could not get to safety. It was just this larger piece of seeing the devastation up close of a storm that had started out in the bayou, made its way to the boroughs. Youre seeing the devastation that these people have to live with and how much wreckage there is to their own homes and what they have to do now going forward to pick up the pieces. This is obviously Something President s have done. Its one of the things that president s do, visiting disaster areas. It obviously comes though right after afghanistan. How much is the White House or what do you hear from the White House, how much of this is hoping that the president s handling these recent Natural Disasters may shift attention away from the withdrawal in afghanistan . Reporter well, i do think to a sense theyre putting the withdrawal in afghanistan behind them to a degree. There are still americans there. That is still something we are asking about daily as those efforts to get those americans out. But now that u. S. Troops have left and that evacuation and the large scale that we saw was over, things are turning where you are president and different things pop up on your plate, like this storm and the devastation that theyve seen. Queens making remarks at The End of the day after hed made several of these stops, was talking about his agenda hes trying to pass through congress which he said would make the nation essentially more climate resistant because he was warning that Climate Change is here, it is undeniable, so the question is its obviously not going to get better but does it get worse and how does the u. S. Respond . He was pitching his economic agenda, domestic agenda as a way to respond to that. There are questions about what is happening in the immediate future. While we were there over traveling in New York and New Jersey today, the White House did send a Budget Request for Emergency Aid for areas that have been struck by Natural Disasters to congress and they said part of that money, about 10 billion, is what they think they need to respond to hurricane ida. Anderson, that number is only likely to climb as they continue to assess and survey the damage here. We should keep in mind, in New Jersey there are still four people missing as a result of this storm. It is still very much the top of the mind of the residents there that we saw today. Kaitlan collins, appreciate it. Thank you. Want to get perspective of the president s visit. As well as those trilliondollar fights over infrastructure and the democrats Budget Resolution. From someone who was with the President Today. Joined now by New York democratic Congresswoman Alexander Ria ocasiocortez. Thank you so much for being with us. Appreciate it. Im wondering what you saw today, what you heard from the president , were you happy or satisfied with what you heard from President Biden today in terms of his commitment to battling Climate Change and providing help to New York . I think in the immediate sense we have been able to help facilitate and working with President Biden as well as fema in getting one of the fastest ever Disaster Assistance approvals from fema so we could help people on the ground and start helping people recover as quickly as possible. Now, when it comes to Climate Change, we have to do so much more and the president s agenda, yes, is important. We must pass the build back better act. But it is not done until it is on the president s desk. And we also need to make sure that were continuing to fund these priorities. Right now reconciliation is really embattled and we have to make sure that we actually bring this Legislation Home with the build back better act and making sure that climate is protected because the Fossil Fuel Industry and the interests of the Fossil Fuel Industry are very much doing their best to try to shake both this legislation and making sure that theyre trying to pit it and frankly tank it compared to the Infrastructure Act as well. When talks to experts on Climate Change and what in order to respond effectively what would need to be done, it is when you actually start to look at the full scope of all of the aspects of life that would be impacted and need to be impacted, i mean, the production of how concrete is made, how steel is made, you know, farming procedures, the Electrical Grid, it is its a huge societal shift. Do you think americans are ready for that or have been kind of prepared for that . I think we are. I think we absolutely are. Because the question is not if our entire world and our entire society is going to shift because of Climate Change, its a matter of how its going to shift. So basically, if we do nothing to address Climate Change, we are going to see the continued destruction of our supply chains. We are going to see our crops not be able to grow in the same way. We will see our infrastructure begin to crumble away. We will see us not we will see the continuation of proliferation of other future pandemics as well. And so that is how our life could change if we do nothing. It will change dramatically but it could also change dramatically in a positive direction if we do something. We can create millions of Union Jobs by rebuilding our infrastructure, shoring up our cities, our rural areas and our suburbs in order to prepare for the Climate Catastrophes that could come to our shores but also draw down our Carbon Output in order to make sure we prevent future calamities from happening as well. Youre obviously from a more Progressive Wing of the democratic party than President Biden who got elected in part by pledging to work across party lines. As you clearly know, the bipartisan Infrastructure Bill seems stalled because democratic moderates in the senate are balking at the Price Tag of a separated but related Budget Resolution thats key to the house even taking up the Infrastructure Bill. Is this split among democrats, what do you make of it . Is it healthy in your view . There certainly seems to be mistrust. Well, i certainly dont think its healthy that exxonmobil lobbyists are bragging about how many senators, democrat and republicans, that they get to have on Speed Dial and enjoy exclusive access to shaping the contours of this Quote Unquote bipartisan Infrastructure Bill. I dont think thats healthy at all. I think the role of dark money and the Fossil Fuel Lobby is extremely unhealthy for our democracy. But the fact of the matter is that weve got the people on our side and this is what we continue to say. They have money. These lobbyists and Special Interests have money. But weve got people. The build back better act has popular support. And even going Above And Beyond that, the Green New Deal has popular support even among republicans and independents. And so what people i think are united behind is the acknowledgment that Climate Change is human caused, that the burning of of Fossil Fuels and the continued construction of Fossil Fuel Infrastructure like what were seeing with Line 3 in minnesota must be confronted if were going to create a better future for ourselves. And we can do it while creating millions of Union Jobs. President biden was asked this evening about one of the key moderate or often referred to as moderate democrats opposing the 3. 5 trillion reconciliation package, senator joe manchin. I just want to play for our viewers what he had to say. Joe at The End has always been there. Hes always been with me. I think we can work something out. And i look forward to speaking with him. I dont know if trust is the right word. Do you trust President Biden to strike a deal with Senator Manchin or do you worry about President Biden striking a deal with Senator Manchin . I mean, is there a deal that all democrats will accept including manchin . Well, i think one of the interesting aspects of this situation is that its not just Senator Manchin that has leverage. Frankly, the entire party also needs to, Quote Unquote, worry about that more moderate agenda in the house. Because just as we have an extremely slim Senate Margin we also have a very slim house margin. And i as well as many, many members of the Progressive Caucus simply will not vote for Senator Manchins Infrastructure Bill unless it is tied together with the build back better act so that we have an all of the above approach, so that we arent saying its either your bill or our bill but that both of these bills must move forward together or neither will. And for the american people thats the best case scenario. Where were able to address the needs of all communities instead of just the needs of some communities that are represented by a very small sliver of p that bipartisan group. I dont want to put you on the spot. But you mentioned Fossil Fuel industries. It reminded me of something you had tweeted actually when Senator Manchin voiced his opposition in an oped last week. You responded via twitter on september 2nd, you wrote, manchin has weekly huddles with exxon and is one of many senators who gives lobbyists their pen to write socalled bipartisan Fossil Fuel bills. Its killing people, our people, at least 1 last night. Sick of this Quote Unquote bipartisan corruption that masquerades as cleareyed moderation, Fossil Fuel corps is destroying our country. Pulling bodies out of homes from the flood. Entire families. And were supposed to entertain lobbyists Talking Points about why we should abandon people and do nothing . No. Are you suggesting that Senator Manchin is more interested in pleasing lobbyists than in savg lives from Climate Change . I think that in the year 2021 if any member of congress whether its a member of the house or the senate continues to aid the Fossil Fuel Lobbyists in advancing theira over the consensus of science then they are disconnected from the reality on the ground. And that is simply a fact. What weve been doing over the last four days, first responders in my community have been pulling out bodies from apartments, Basement Apartments in new York City because of these flash floods. And the idea that were going to continue building Fossil Fuel Infrastructure, that were going to continue even in my back yard, continue to try to build things like peaker plants, natural gas, fracking, pipelines for fracked gas, it is unconscionable. We know that the science is in and it says the construction of new Fossil Fuel Infrastructure will endanger people. It will make these storms worse. We have the capacity to transition to clean and renewable energy and create millions of good Union Jobs in order to transition to both our infrastructure and our Energy System as well as our Power Grid. So i do believe that with all of that evidence that we have, with all of the opportunity that we have, economic opportunity that we have, if we continue to listen to the Fossil Fuel Lobby and if we continue to allow them to have this infrastructure have this influence in washington, we are endangering our constituents and we have to choose the science for once ahead of the lobbyist money. Do you support nuclear . Because there are a lot of people who look at this issue and say, you know, the capabilities of transporting solar and wind power, i mean our Electrical Grid needs to completely be altered and upgraded, but even then transporting it long distances and storing it, nuclear is the only answer at least in the short term. Yeah, you know, theres weve even addressed some of this issue, Senator Markey and i, in the drafting of the Green New Deal, which is that i dont think that theres no position in terms of whether we are pro or antinuclear. Its about the amount frankly, its a logistical question. Can we get an Energy Mix that is constructed in a tenyear timeline with the ipcc in accordance with the ipcc results . So it certainly does not rule out nuclear. But the issue is the construction, the timeline, and making sure that we can also focus on investments like for Example Battery Storage and Energy Storage in our Power Grid so that we arent completely reliant on continual generation but that we can store energy in times when its not available. Just lastly i want to ask you about something that texas Governor Greg Abbott just said. He was asked about the Texas Abortion Bill and why force a Rape Or Incest victim, survivor to carry a pregnancy to term. This is how he responded. I want to play this for our viewers. Why force a Rape Or Incest victim to carry their pregnancy to term . It doesnt require that at all because obviously it provides at least six weeks for a person to be able to get an abortion. So for one, it doesnt provide that. That said, however, lets make something very clear. Rape is a crime. And texas will work tirelessly to make sure that we eliminate all rapists from the streets of texas by aggressively going out and arresting them and prosecuting them and getting them off the streets. So Goal Number one in the state of texas is to eliminate rape so that no woman, no person will be a victim of rape. Im wondering what you thought when you heard that. Well, i find Governor Abbotts comments disgusting. And i think theres twofold. One, i dont know if he is familiar with a men struating persons body. Because if he did he would know that you dont have six weeks. Its that Quote Unquote six weeks, and im sorry we have to break it down break down biology 101 on national television. But in case No One has informed him before in his life, six weeks pregnant means two weeks late for your period. And two weeks late on your period for any person with a Menstrual Cycle can happen if youre stressed, if your diet changes, or for really no reason at all. So you dont have six weeks. Thats first things first. The second area of this, when he talks about going after rapists and this language of him that he uses about getting rapists off the streets, the majority of people who are raped and who are sexually assaulted are assaulted by someone that they know. And these arent just predators that are walking around the streets at night. They are peoples uncles. They are teachers. They are Family Friends. And when something like that happens, it takes a very long time, first of all, for any victim to come forward. And second of all, when a victim comes forward, they dont necessarily want to bring their case into the carceral system. They dont want to retraumatize themselves by going to court. They dont necessarily all want to report a Family Friend to a police precinct, let alone in the immediate aftermath of the trauma of a Sexual Assault. And so while some victims do use that recourse and that is something that is completely available and if that is part of their process thats great. But this idea that were going to, Quote Unquote, End Rape when the same type of frankly Rape Culture and the same type of Misogynistic Culture that informed this Abortion Law to begin with is also you know, those beliefs are held by the governor himself and this texas state legislature, frankly there are many people in power as we know from the me too movement that commit Sexual Assault, that help their friends cover up these crimes. And some of them even serve in the same State Legislatures that are voting on these anti you know, these antichoice bills. Its awful. And he speaks from such a place of deep ignorance. Its not just ignorance. Its ignorance that is hurting people across this country. You cited Rape Culture and Misogynistic Culture are behind this Texas Bill to begin with. Can you just explain that, how you feel about that to people . Sure. So when we talk about the law that was passed in texas, we know that antichoice bills are not about being pro life because if they were about being pro life then the republican party would support frankly an agenda that helps guaranteed health care, that helps ensure that people who do Give Birth that dont have the resources to care for a child can have that care for a child. So we know that none of this is about life. None of this is about supporting life. What this is about is controlling womens bodies and controlling people who are not cisgender men. This is about making sure that someone like me as a woman or any menstruating person in this country cannot make decisions over their own body. And people like Governor Abbott and Mitch Mcconnell want to have more control over a womans body than that woman or that person has over themselves. And what that shares in you know, what that shares with Rape Culture is that Sexual Assault is about the abuse of power and Sexual Assault is about asserting control over another person. And the ease with which these men seek to do that to other people is atrocious. It is morally reprehensible. And they dont they cannot even begin to understand the agonizing decisions that people have to make including in cases of Miscarriages Rape and incest. Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasiocortez, i appreciate your time. Thank you so much. Thank you so very much. Well have more details about the Plresidents Speech later i the week, about the coronavirus. Ill also talk to a conservative Radio Host about why he thinks vaccinations are a good thing. Also more breaking news, more reaction to what texas Governor Greg Abbott said today about the states new highly restrictive Abortion Law. Well hear from survivors of rape. Thats next. Its vehicles still on the road after ten years . Subaru. 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It doesnt require that at all. Because obviously it provides at least six weeks for a person to be able to get an abortion. So for one, it doesnt provide that. That said, however, lets make something very clear. Rape is a crime. And texas will work tireless ly to make sure we eliminate all rapists from the streets of texas by aggressively going out and arresting them and prosecuting them and getting them off the streets. So Goal Number one in the state of texas is to eliminate rape so that no woman, no person will be a victim of rape. Joining me now is cnn chief legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin and wendy davis, former Texas State Senator who filibustered 11 hours against another restrictive Abortion Law back in 2013. Senator davis, the governor didnt acknowledge that many women as Congresswoman Ocasiocortez pointed out dont even know that they are pregnant in the first six weeks. Im wondering what you made of his comments. Well, i agree with the congresswoman that his comments were completely repulsive and absolutely unacceptable and not at all in keeping with the understanding of how menstruating peoples bodies work. And i want to make sure that your viewers understand a couple of things about texas and its approach to protecting Sexual Assault survivors. When i was in the texas senate, we had the largest backlog of untested Rape Kits of any state in the country, over 20,000. And i had to fight like hell to begin the process to start testing the backlog and to prevent a future backlog. And that problem has still yet to be completely resolved, although other legislative members have worked incredibly hard on it. So number one, i want to challenge that statement. Number two, in our state right now there was an article in the paper recently that Rape Crisis centers are afraid to refer their clients to Abortion Clinics for fear that they are personally going to be sued by one of these vigilante antiabortionists under Senate Bill 8 that just passed into law. And number three, so many of our Abortion Clinics now across the state of texas are no longer providing abortions at all. So even if you were a rape survivor, a incest survivor, and you realized in the first two weeks of your pregnancy that you were pregnant and you had time to get to an abortion clinic, there probably wouldnt be one available to you. Jeff, all those points, i mean, did the governor say Anything Today that would be relevant in a legal challenge over this law . First of all, his comments about rape were so sort of ridiculous. I mean, rape has been illegal in texas basically since the texas existed. So the idea that now texas is going to start prosecuting rape which it hadnt been doing before is absurd. But you know, the important thing to remember about this law is that this is not some speculative thing. This is the law on the books now. So today, now, victims of rape and victims of incest in texas are being forced to carry their pregnancies to term. This law is on the books now. Because of the way the Supreme Court handled this, this is not speculation. This is the law. And you know, i thought it was revealing that the governor chose either to display his ignorance or simply lie about this because in many indefensible aspects of the law it is perhaps the most politically toxic that Rape And Incest victims are being forced to carry their pregnancies to term. But thats the law now and thats the law that the governor signed. And senator davis, i think you make a really important point about backlogs on, you know, testing kits. Thats a nationwide problem. I mean, not to take anything away from the problem in texas, but its a bigger problem than just texas. There are many states across this country which just simply have not taken sexual violence against women seriously. Thats absolutely right, anderson. Lets think about the potential spread of Senate Bill 8 and its antiabortion Requirements State by State By state across the south. And it looks like it will march across the south. That theres not something we can do to stop it before that happens. And in each of those states, State By State By state, we are creating Aw Climate Where Peopl who have been victimized by sexual assailants are going to be forced to be victimized, to be traumatized even more because they are going to be forced to carry that pregnancy to term. I cannot even begin to tell you how horrifying i and so many people not just in our state but all over the country find that idea. And the fact that Governor Abbott and others who passed this horrid law into effect claim to be pro life, to reiterate the point that the congresswoman made, knowing and not caring that people are going to be traumatized in this way and once again that its going to have a predominant and disproportionate impact on women of Color And Lowincome women in our state, dont you dare say that you are pro life. There is nothing that is pro woman in those actions. Jeff, the attorney general Merrick Garland has said hes exploring, quote, all options, end quote, to challenge texass new Abortion Law. Realistically, what options are there . Well, there are not many. This just shows that when you control the federal judiciary and you control State Legislatures and State Government theres a lot you can accomplish. And that starts with abortion here. You know, the Justice Department can protect Abortion Clinics and people walking in from harassment. There has been an idea that the governor that the Justice Department could try to intervene in these cases where Abortion Providers were sued by private parties. You know, i think when the Supreme Court let this law go into effect, i mean, it really signaled where the laws headed. I think the only answer really to this is fights at the State Level and political these political fights now if roe v. Wade appears to be on the way out as the texas as the Supreme Court indicated by voting 54 to let this law go into effect. It means that in all 50 states the question of whether abortion is legal is going to be up to the State Legislatures and up to the governors. And thats where the fights going to be now because it looks like the federal courts are lost on this subject. Jeffrey toobin, wendy davis, thank you so much. I really appreciate it. Coming up, a leading conservative on those on the right spreading vaccine disinformation. 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Its more than three times the number of cases. That despite at least 75 of adults who now have had at least one shot of the vaccine. 40 Million infections total since the pandemic began. And now children according to the American Academy Of Pediatrics make up more than one in four of new cases. One conservative whos had enough of the disinformation is talk Radio Host erick erickson. This is just a sample of his Radio Show from last wednesday. I dont care that you dont want to get vaccinated. I really dont. I dont care that you dont want the vaccine. But if youre out there spreading lies and Misinformation And Disinformation and willfully undermining Peoples Trust in the Vaek Scene i care about that a great deal. I dont care if you dont want the vaccine. Shut up, im not trying to offend you. And fuhr offended by that youre an idiot anyway. Joining me now is erick erickson. Erick, its good to have you back on the program. Very impassioned case you made. Im wondering what motivated you to speak out. Gosh, a lot. My wife lost a cousin who was in perfect health. No comorbidities. Lost a cousin. He wasnt vaccinated. Ive lost several friends. Ive lost my moms Best Friend who i consider my aunt. Multiple friends who were in icu on vents. My sister has lost several friends. And i keep epicountering people at least in the online world who act like they dont know anyone whos been impacted by this. Its very real. Its real for my family. My wife, anderson, as you know, my wifes got an incurable genetic rare form of lung cancer. Theres no way she can get rid of it. She never smoked. It puts her at a very high risk of death. We got vaccinated. Our kids wound up getting it despite all of our precautions. And we were perfectly fine. Weve seen how the vaccine works so well. And to keep encountering people, particularly in talk radio, people call in and what about the israel study that was misrepresented . What about this study that was misrepresented . These are wellmeaning people who are relying on their friends and their network of friends online who have been misled. And i feel badly for them and im really angry at the amount of disinformation thats out there. I want to talk about that but just one thing you said really struck me, that your kids got it, which is awful. But that the fact that you and your wife were vaccinated, you really feel that that protected you both, particularly your wife, when your kids got infected. Right. And this is one of the things were dealing with. To be fully transparent. Both of my kids tested negative for having had it. We thought they had it. They had the symptoms. They tested negative. And then later one of my children started having very weird things that fit into postcovid side effects. And the doctor said they should have their antibodies tested. Sure enough, in a test that should have taken 15 minutes they spiked pretty pronounced. The nurse was very adamant that yes, theyve had it. And my wife with a profoundly increased risk of death from getting covid never got it. Or a better case in point i was with my dad for three days. Hes been vaccinated. Ive been vaccinated. He wound up actually getting it. Fought it off like a champ. I never got it after sitting in a Hotel Room with my dad for three days. So the vaccine really does work, even for those who may get a Breakthrough Case which today the nrktthe New York times sa actually ratioer than we first thought. He got one. Hes 82, 81 years old, has some comorbidities. It would have been very bad for him but for the vaccine. So it really does work. My whole familys living proof that it works. What happens when you try to engage with your audience about the vaccine . You talked about the misinformation thats out there. And i think its an important point you make that its not good people get misinformed and you know, and then get dug in on beliefs and its hard to change Somebodys Mind or admit the its hard for anybody to admit we called it wrong and we should get it. Yeah. And you know, thats the hardest part, is people bring up well, they got this wrong and they got that wrong, what about this, what about this. Theres a lot of what abouting. Some people youre never going to persuade. Ow but im not a very patient person and ive had to learn patience. And just trying to lovingly walk people through very relationally you know, not to get philosophical but we are in postmodernity where we talk about youve got your truth and ive got mine, theres not the truth. We dont talk about which drives me nuts, by the way. I hate that. Even that phrase, speaking your truth. Im like there is a thing i feel instead of i think. Exactly. It requires us to be more relational than weve ever had to be before at a time when were more divided tribally, loyally, on the internet. Just trying to break through and be a good neighbor to people and talk them through it. It takes time but it works if youre willing to lovingly walk through the concerns with people instead of just dismissing them or saying well, youre a Trump Voter of course youre doing this. It seems like all the studies have shown and just Common Sense tells you if you try to shame people it doesnt work. Right. Youve got to be relational. We are less and less of a relational people because were all online now and you know, youre online Facebook Or Twitter friends arent going to come feed you if youre sick. But if you actually make inroads within your local community and stop worrying about the rest of the people, worry about your local community, you can have a real impact. Yeah. Erick, i appreciate you being on. 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Reporter with just seven days left to convince californians that he deserves to keep his job. Are we goings to vote no on this recall . Reporter democratic Governor Gavin Newsom economic justice is on the ballot. Social justice is on the ballot. Reporter striking a national tone. We did not defeat trumpism. Its still alive all across this country. It has come to The State Of California. Reporter with help from high profile people in washington. Ill fight with everything i have to keep Donald Trump out of office. It is part of the same thing, addressing the vote, going not capitol, stopping democracy. Reporter newsom is going to turn it into a referendum. Our approach to the pandemic is save lives. Their approach we quite literally believe will impact the public health but impact our economic recovery. Reporter making a womans right to choose a central theme after texas bans abortion this month. You saw what happened in texas. Reporter on the other side of the recall effort. Just a few more days youre going to have a new governor. His name is going to be governor Larry Elder. Reporter conservative Radio Host Larry Elder not shying away from national implications. God forbid he replace dianne feinstein. Reporter on the Campaign Trail Elder talking up local issues. Homelessness is up, crime is up. Where has this man done anything right . Touting that as a support. Its the personal appeal. Hes like Donald Trump. I voted for Donald Trump guys. Reporter the former president has refused to concede the 2020 president ial election making false claims it was stolen and fraud. Elder taking a page from that. The 2020 election in my opinion was full of shenanigans. Im afraid theyll try this. Well file lawsuits in a timely fashion this time. Reporter California Democrats Out number republicans two to one. For newsom, turnout is the name of the game. Let me be explicit. Either we vote no on this recall or in a matter of weeks the next governor of The State Of California is Larry Elder. Were joined now. Theres some new voter data just released today . Reporter thats right, anderson. It seems governor Newsoms Strategy by nationalizing this Recall Election seems to be working, at least when it comes to the early returns. The new numbers that we got today indicate up to 6 Million ballots cast so far, more than 53 of the ballots returned came from democrats and 24. 5 came from republican voters. That said, theres still a ways to go before voting ends on september 14th. Anderson . Lucy cavanaugh, appreciate it. Lets get perspective from Carla Marinucci and john king. Anchor of inside politics. Have you been watching this all around the country tonight. Why should they care what happens in california . A long list of reasons. Race itself, a democratic governor in the nations most popular state at the forefront of the pandemic trying to keep his job in this Recall Election with coronavirus on the ballot as well as the other issues he listed. The drama and the quirkiness of the recall law. Then there are national implications. Governor newsome is trying to make this a referendum on him and democratic governance, on mask mandates, vaccine mandates. Those will be the issues in 2022 as well. We will learn about voter motivation, exhaustion. 21 democratic voting advantage. Governor newsome should not lows. If its close, thats a message for democrats. Tied the republican frontrunner Larry Elder to Donald Trump. Whats the Governors Perspective on this recall one week out . I mean, this has been a Nerveracking Number of months for Gavin Newsom, anderson, and democrats are in a panic a couple of weeks ago when polls suggested this was a dead heat. The Bottom Line is, i mean, covid Got Newsome into this recall and it looks like covid is going to get him out of it. His performance, the mask mandates, the vaccine mandates, these are very popular with californians right now, and Newsome Today pointed to the fact that california has the second lowest Positivity Rate in the nation. He talks about florida and texas and he talks about how california has some of the highest Vaccine Rates in the nation. That is working with him in the polls. He has a 19 Point Lead at this point. And on his job approval rating, twothirds of californians, they back him on proof of vaccines and they think he has done a good job on the vaccines. So going into this, its covid, covid, covid. Thats where that is a number one issue from california voters. It is no longer a referendum on newsome. It is a referendum on covid. John, how much political capital do the Vice President and president have in the race . This is about the issues in california. And also about democratic governance. Gavin newsom is on the ballot this time. Joe biden will not be on the ballot next year. Kamala harris will not be on the ballot next year. Can they get democratic voters who are exhausted, frustrated, who have A Bone To Pick with politicians. Any politician. We have all had moments where we feel powerless. What do people do . Take it out on the powerful, meaning the politicians. They kick them. Gavin newsom is the pin yad a. This is about Gavin Newsom. Can Joe Biden help turn out voters . If he helps in california, democrats will feel better about the tough climate next year. Does the governor believe this recall is happening because of blunders he made during the pandemic like Eating Dinner unmasked or does he think yeah, that go ahead. That didnt help at all. He has had selfinflicted wounds in this. No question about it. But the Bottom Line is the recall, he has defined it as a republican recall, a Trump Recall and he has gotten help on that front with Larry Elder entering the race. He has been able to make this race about Larry Elder. He has been a giftwrapped, Custommade Sort of campaign for Gavin Newsom to use as an illustration of republicans want to seize california. He said it today in san francisco. What will happen to the biden agenda, to Nancy Pelosi if the republicans are able to take back california. So, yes, he is using it on a larger picture. At the same time, republicans have helped hit out with the entry of Larry Elder in the race. Larry elder probably surprise Add Lot of people even on the right for how well he has done compared to the other candidates out there. Is a lot of it Name Recognition . People know him from radio . Some of it is trump. The emergence of Larry Elder has helped Gavin Newsom because he has someone two run against. Back in the last recall where Afternoon Schwarzenegger came on, he was consistent, very focused in saying its about Cleaning House in sacramento, Cleaning House in sacramento, all about gray davis. Now you have this Trump Conservative Radio Host who is not representative of the entire california electorate. Can he pull it off . Maybe. But that has helped Gavin Newsom. There is not an organized republican party in california. The state republican party has been in disarray more than a decade. If Larry Elder is the next governor of california we will be spending at lo of time analyzing this race. I think carla is right. The indications are not so. But thats why we count votes. And any other republican candidates even close to Larry Elder . No. I mean, at in point Larry Elder has bigfooted just about every other republican in the race, including some considered to be the future of the republican party in california like former San Diego mayor kevin faulconer, a moderate republican. He is now down to 5 in the polls. Caitlyn jenner had 1 . At this point Larry Elder is it. Republicans are putting their hopes in him. But the polls suggest how big the victory is going to be for Gavin Newsom, how big of a landslide it might be. Carla, john, thank you. Up next, Ethel Kennedy weighs in on the recommendation of parole for the man who killed her Husband Robert f. Kennedy. Ethel kennedy, the widow of taxsmart investing, whats new . Well, audreys expecting. Twins grandparents we want to put money aside for them, so. Change in plans. Alright, lets see what we can adjust. Wed be closer to the twins. Change in plans. Okay. Mom, are you painting again . You could sell these. Lemme guess, change in plans . At fidelity, a change in plans is always part of the plan. Hey lily, i need a new Wireless Plan for my business, but all my employees need something different. Oh, we can help with that. Okay, imagine this. 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