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The same workplaces they left almost 20 months ago and the same routines. But what would work look like if we started from scratch and reimagined it entirely . Ill ask the former Usa Today Editor in chief, joann litman. Can we redesign the workplace similar to the way it is today . If we could redesign the campus, what would we end up with, and what is the future of schooling . Ill talk to former education secretary, arnie duncan. The vast majority of students want to be around their friends, want to be with the teacher, need those human relationships, need that human contact, and the fact weve denied them that for so long is extraordinarily tough. Also, covid19 hit some cities hard. New york, new delhi, jakarta. Many predicted the death of urban areas. The governor the florida rejects those ideas and says we will see a reset. Urbanization is it a wonderful thing. It is the thing we created as Human Beings when we cluster together, when we increase density, we become more diverse, we increase our innovativeness and productivity. Finally, the global common. Who will be the winners when the chips have fallen and who will be the losers . Editor in chief betty will weigh in. The cost of not being in school, the cost of not being able to focus on any areas of Health Care. These are hitting the poorest and most vulnerable people in the world the hardest. That and we will close with my usual take in our special hour. So lets get started. Police officers, soldiers, doctors, journalists, Supermarket Shelf stockers. These folks and many others went to work throughout the pandemic because they had to. But many White Collar Workers traded in commutes and cubicles for athome setups, meetings became virtual, emails replaced conversations and coffee breaks, and the lines between Work And Leisure blurred. Some people will return to the office just after Labor Day, but many companies are delaying those plans because of the Delta Variant. So just what will work life look like, and what should it look like . Joann litman has been thinking about just that. She wrote a great piece about it for time. She is the former Editor In Chief of usa today, and she joins me now. Joann, before the pandemic we had a sort of system of work that we took for granted and assumed had kind of always been around. But you point out that came out of a particular historical moment and period. Thats right, so if you look at the workplace where we live right now, it actually dates back to World War ii. So the guys Coming Home from the front recreated essentially a military hierarchy, so the modern Office Place was actually created by a Bunch Of Guys who created a very strictly heirarchical Work Force that assumed you had to be there all the time, eight hours a day. And there was also an assumption that there was somebody at home, a wife, who was going to take care of the rest of your life. The entire workplace has changed. Were in a digital society, a global Work Force where were working with people across time zones, were working virtually. And yet and were in a service economy. And yet we are still really attached to this very, very old system of what the workplace looked like. I really when i started looking at this, i started with the simple question, which is, if you were going to start the workplace from scratch today, what would it look like . Would it look like five days a week, 40 hours a week . I dont think so. I dont think it would look anything like that. What covid has done with suddenly shutting down the economy in many, many ways, sending Office Workers home to work remotely, what it did is it provided this break that allowed people to sort of reassess how they work, the kind of work they do, the tempo of the Work Week, and its given all of us an opportunity to really think about, can we reinvent the Work Force in a way that makes much more sense for today. But there are people, as you know, ceos of banks, for example, who say, look, a lot of the work that happens is the accidental encounters, the teamwork, and youve got to be in the same place at the same time. You know, the ceos of Jp Morgan and Morgan Stanley and such say if you want New York wages, you have to work at the New York office. What are they trying to get at, and are they right . Im a believer there is a lot of these sort of incidental meetings that are very, very important. However, that said, there is a lot of that that can be done remotely, but also you can have a sort of Hybrid Model. And i think that when you talk to people, when you talk to workers, the vast, vast majority of people would prefer a Hybrid Model where they are sometimes in the workplace, but sometimes being able to work at home. I do think there is a danger in the executives who are saying you have to have face time. I think that is an outmoded, outdated way of thinking about things. A Ceo Friend of mine said to me about those of us who do think there will be a greater Hybrid Model, he said to me, the Ceo Management loves this idea. They all have large suburban ho houses with home offices. But the young kids live in an apartment. They do want to come back to the office. Is there a divide here . Theres a couple ways this could play out. One might be that the people who are the younger people want to come in because they want to get away from their roommates and their studio apartment, and the older people who live in the suburbs and have a commute want to stay at Home And Work remotely. In which case you dont get the mentoring that you need, you dont get the transmission of the company culture, which is so, so important. There is another way this Class System could work out that could be potentially even more damaging, and that would be if the people who want to hustle are in and are they are favored over those who are remote. This, i think, is perhaps a bigger issue. If you have a situation, we know that women, particularly working mothers of young children, and we know that people of color are more likely to say that they prefer remote working. If you have the people on the premises being favored, getting the promotions, getting the raises, getting the opportunities, whereas those who are remote do not, then you have a Class System that exacerbates what we already know are the issues that these marginalized groups are already facing. So you could actually double down on the issues faced by women, faced by people of color, faced by your marginalized communities, and Thats Something that is a real danger that weve got to keep our eyes open for. So it has to be intelligently designed, and presumably some piece of this will be that offices will become a little bit more like we work, that model of the idea that you come in and out, plug in and leave becomes the new model . I think what might be more likely to happen could be a situation where there are more Satellite Offices. Rei, the apparel retailer, did something really interesting where they gave up their Headquarters Building in favor of creating Satellite Offices so that people could go to work but go to work in a smaller office that would be closer to their home. So you are surrounded by colleagues, which is helpful, right . But at the same time you are not having to make that long commute into the center of the city. One of the big changes that we might see, i think, would be more companies adopting a fourday Work Week. This, i think, could be quite revolutionary, and i do think we talk about starting the office and the Work Week from scratch, i believe that is something where we might have landed. There are some experiments here. Iceland over four years, 2015 to 2019, they recently released the results of their experiment of a fourday Work Week. They found that productivity remained constant or increased, and that employee the employees loved it. It was great for their Mental Health. They reported less burnout, they reported better balance in their work and lives, so i think there is a real lesson there. Joanne lipman, happy to have you on. Thanks, fareed. Great to be here. From back to work to Back To School. How can all schools from nursery to Graduate Change the way they educate our kids postpandemic . Ill be back with the former u. S. Secretary of education, arnie duncan, in a moment. Which is why the scientifiC Expertise that helps Operating Rooms stay clean now helps the places you go too. Look for the Ecolab Science certified seal. With Voltaren Arthritis Pain gel my husbands got his moves back. An alternative to pain Pills Voltaren is the first full Prescription Strength Gel for powerful arthritis Pain Relief. Voltaren the joy of movement i dont Feel Sick why should i cure my Hepatitis C . How can i handle one more thing . You can stay on track and be cured in only 8 weeks with mavyret. You can keep your momentum with mavyret. 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The pandemic gives educators and policymakers a prime opportunity to reconsider every aspect of how we teach our children. Arne duncan joined me to talk about it all. He was Secretary Of Education for seven years under president obama. Arne duncan, pleasure to have you on. Thanks so much for having me. Lets start by just getting the broadest lesson we can from the pandemic regarding education. What was the effect of the pandemic on education in america, particularly k through 12 . Unfortunately for me, the pandemic has had just a devastating impact on Childrens Education across the country as everyone is aware well be entering the third School Year impacted by the pandemic, and our refusal as adults to take care of kids, to pay attention to science, to do the things that make sense have just had a really, really detrimental impact on children, not just educationally and academically, we now have Tens Of Millions of children who are behind anywhere between a couple months to a year or more, but also on students social and emotional needs. Its been an extraordinarily tough time and we have to emerge from this Darkness Doing whatever we can to help take care of our kids social and emotional needs first, help them accel accelerate emotionally and academically and fulfill their potential. If you look at the economy, one of the pleasant surprises of the pandemic was that the digital Economy Kind of stepped in and was able to operate pretty successfully in a whole bunch of different areas. But it seems as though online education, or exclusively online education, did not really deliver. Why do you think that is . I think all of us, but particularly our children, are by nature social beings. We probably have a small percent of students who learn better in a virtual environment, but a vast majority of students want to be around their friends, want to be with a teacher, need those human relationships, need that human contact, and the fact we denied them that for so long is extraordinarily tough. An underreporting of a story that is most troubling for me, fareed, is we have somewhere between 1. 2 or 2 Million students who never made a transition from physical school to virtual school, they just disappeared. This has to be high touch and not high tech. As we go into the next School Year having teachers, social workers, principals, whatever, go to students homes who have been missing formile more tha year now, find out what went wrong, at home or in the broader neighborhood, get them back enrolled in school. Thats critical. It has to be Mission Number one. So people talk in the workplace of a new Hybrid Model, whether it be part digital, part real in person. It sounds like youre saying we need to focus on the physical in Person Part here. There is no hybrid in your version. I think there are some things we can learn from the virtual environment. Ill give you one Concrete Example of it. We have thousands and thousands of Algebra Teachers Teaching algebra to 125 students across the country every single day. Think if we figured out who the best, who the Albert Einstein teachers are in our country, and rather than Teaching Hundreds of students per day, think if they were teaching 10,000, 100,000, and we can use the Classroom Teaching as editorial. Think of access to food and running water. Kids in appalachia, american indian reservations, need to be able to learn anything they can any time, anywhere 24 7, so we have to continue to make their progress. But at the end of the day, for the vast majority of students, spending a vast majority of their time in a physical School Building is the way to go. When you look forward, what is your hope for postpandemic education . Whats the Bestcase Scenario september onwards . There are so many lessons we can learn, and i said repeatedly the goal here should not be to go back to, quote, unquote, normal, because normal didnt serve Tens Of Millions of children well enough. We need to leapfrog, we need to accelerate how we learn and how we teach. Just a couple quick ideas, fareed. First of all, the idea of having three months off for summer is pretty obsolete. That was based on the raring economy, and last time i checked, most of our children w werent working in our fields. Children need different amounts of schooling. Some may need five days a week, nine months a year. Other children might need six, seven days a week, longer days, afte afternoons, because of whats going on at home or in the community. Some children need one meal a day at school, some children need three meals a day at school. When i was working for public schools, we sent very discreetly for some children backpacks of Food Home because we worried about them not eating on the weekend and coming Back To School hungry. If your stomach is grumbling, you cant learn. Whats been constant in education is time, and the variable has been learning. I want to flip that on its head. I want learning to be the constant and the variable to be time, and lets give every child exactly what they need to be successful. The second one is we need to move from a system based upon Sea Time, and ill go back to my algebra analogy. Basically you pass algebra by sitting in class four or five days a week, nine hours a day for a number of months. You should pass algebra when you know algebra. It might be nine months, it might be 15 months, and thats okay. But moving in Sea Time to compensate, giving every child exactly what they need academically but also socially and emotionally and making sure theyre fed. Those are ideas that if we were to take them to scale, fareed, we could really accelerate learning, accelerate progress coming out of an extraordinarily dark time in our nations history. Arne duncan, pleasure to have you on, sir. Thank you so much for the opportunity. Next on gps, will the worlds cities be yet another victim of this pandemic . 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This summer was just about as hot and noisy and filled with great Art And Culture and food and interested people as ever. But what have cities learned from the pandemic and what will keep those obituary writers at bay for many more decades . Richard florida joins me now. He is the cofounder of the City Lab and a professor at the university of toronto. Richard, first with New York and san francisco, have they really come back . Here there are restaurants that are vacant, shops that are vacant. Can we confidently say that cities are back . I think cities are back. And i think New York in particular, and we can get to san francisco. Its proven to be the most resilient city in the world. This is the second time in two decades that New York was counted for dead. The first was after the tragic attack on the twin towers, the second was in 2008. I think the pundits got this wrong. Wealthier people and more advantaged people and people with families decamped cities temporarily. But i think the big effect, fareed, and you hinted at this in the question, is not where people are going to live. I think that looks pretty similar not the same, but similar to how it did prepandemic how they worked and where they work is going to change, and i think remote work is a much bigger deal than people thought. The best data we have says remote work is going to go from less than 5 of working days, and this is from Nick Bloom at stanford and his colleagues, to about 20 of working days. But thats a lot, and i think that will have an effect ultimately on reshaping and remaking these Office Areas or what urban has called central Business Districts of major cities. So explain how that will play out. Describe what you think is going to happen. Because if you do end up with more remote work, wont more people say, well, i could live in the suburbs. Commuting three times a week is not as bad as commuting five times a week. Whats the Hybrid Model were looking at for the future . So remote work seems to have two big effects. The first is very similar to the introduction of earlier technologies like the subway or the Commuter Train or the automobile. Remote work is the latest technology which stretches the boundaries of cities for what we call metropolitan areas. If the Car Allowed People to detach to the suburbs, remote work really allows people to decamp to rural areas outside New York and san francisco. If you look at the data, some of the fastestgrowing areas in america are the Hudson Valley towns outside New York city, and there are equivalents outside Los Angeles or san francisco. The second big effect is how people work in commute. Its not so much that people dont want to go to the office per se. What were finding is that suburban office parks close to where workers work and where they can drive to work are getting filled up more quickly. Its the Downtown Office parks where people have to commute by Train Or Subway that are not filling up. Its not so much here at the office, its this reluctance to commute. What i think is likely to happen is that instead of an area where people come to work and plug their laptop into a cubicle, the central Business District will gradually be reshaped as a place to convene and socialize. And youve written a lot about how this kind of transformation has happened in the past, you know. We often forget cities used to be the centers of manufacturing, and then what happened . Well, if you look at and ive studied this pretty exhaustively. After the spanish flu, we had the roaring 20s. Week look forward again to the roaring 2020s. New york came back blazingly fast and really became a center for Art And Culture. Its the Greenwich Village as we know it. Houses became more affordable and artists could move there. But the big example we could use historically that you and i lived there is the deindustrialization of great cities that happened in the 70s and 80s when people predicted the death of New York and thats when President Ford said, New York, drop dead, deal with your fiscal crisis, but what happened was Thoese Older Factory Buildings proved to be the perfect place for art studios, musicians to practice, other venues. They ever become the incubators and accelerators for the great Tech Boom in New York city, so what wouldnt surprise me is if our big experiment with remote work is recasting our Office Towers and office buildings, which are located in the most central and best locations served by transit and trains in the densest part of our cities, if they came back with socialized connectivity and actually more residents and more affordable housing. When you look globally, its fair to say that the great trend of Urbanization Weve already crossed, i think 50 of the world now lives in cities that great trend seems to be continuing and continues to be as strong as ever, and i want to ask you if im right in thinking the fundamental reason why this continues is very simple. You make more money if you live in a city, on average. Thats why, in the wake of every pandemic in history going back to the middle ages, from the plagues to cholera, to the spanish flu. Youn young and ambitious people have flocked to cities. Urbanization is a wonderful thing. Its a thing we have created as Human Beings. When we cluster together, when we increase density, when we become more diverse, we increase our creativity and productivity. Its not like we do this individually, we do it in clusters and groups in urban areas. But people get confused when they talk about urbanization. They speak of urbanization as more skyscrapers. Part of urbanization is the intensification of land use, more people at the city center. The other part of it that weve been going through for more than a century is the extensification of land as we move to the suburbs and rural areas and ultimately as we see these great mega regions take shape like the New York, boston, washington corridors, shanghai in china. Thats also part of urbanization and thats increasing at a quicker pace. Richard florida, great to have you on. Its great to see you, fareed. Next on gps, well explore how the pandemic shifted the economies of the world. Finance in chief zanny is next. My plaque psoriasis. The itching. The burning. The stinging. My skin was no longer mine. My psoriatic arthritis, made my joints stiff, swollen. Painful. Emerge tremfyant™. With tremfya®, adults with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. Can uncover clearer skin and improve symptoms at 16 weeks. 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Thanks to amazons increasing indispensability during the pandemic, delivering disinfectant, diapers and daily entertainment to those stuck at home, the worlds wealthiest man almost doubled his net worth, adding nearly 100 Billion to his personal coffers in the past 20 months. So what will the postpandemic quality bring to people around the spectrum. Zanny Menton Betters joins us now. What do you think is just the outlines of the economy as we get out of this Pandemic Haltingly and hesitatingly as it is, but what does it look like with all this Government Money thrown at the economy and the united states and Europe And China . Well, i think there are several things going on. The first is how much will the postpandemic economy look like the prepandemic economy . Are we just getting back to a normal, or is there a new kind of economy . I think the significant ways we work, we live, we shop, we travel has changed. So one big question is, is all of that temporary or are some changes going to stick . The second, as you say, what is the impact of this huge government spending, this huge stimulus particularly in the rich world and particularly in america is fuelling the economy. If you combine that huge amount of stimulus with a sense that maybe actually some things in the economy have changed, maybe fewer people are willing to work, then you have the ingredients of potentially higher inflation. And i think thats the challenge for the debate about whether inflation is a problem is whether you think whats going on now is temporary. As you say, were back to normal or whether you thirnk were in new world. What do you think happens to globalization . At the start of the pandemic, we all heard about countries wanting to bring their Supply Chains back and even liberals like Emanuel Macron started talking about economics. If you look at the trade in numbers, China And Australia trade is at a peak, Global Trade has rebounded pretty much back to prepandemic levels. Is globalization in trouble, or is it going to just sail right on . I think globalization is going to change. Youre right that there hasnt been the collapse in trade that many people feared. But i do think that in country after country, there is an increasing focus on industrial policy, on protecting industries at home, on having critical Supply Chains at home. Whether its the united states via america, or whether its, as you say, the europeans who have focused on strategic industries, and particularly china. China is very, very focused on its own strategic industries. You put all of that together, you have several, you know, small cuts in the nature of globalization and global Supply Chains. So i think the fact that it hasnt happened dramatically yet doesnt mean that it isnt sort of going to erode globalization going forward. I think we are going to see some sort of breaking up of Supply Chains, some regionalization, some localization. And that will change the nature of globalization and its going to be particularly difficult for middleincome countries that have not yet got onto the kind of exportled growth ladder, and for them that process of exporting your way to becoming a richer country, which is really what the East Asian countries did, what china did, is much, much harder. So if youre in latin america or youre in africa, its a harder prospect to do that now, particularly in globalization is not as strong of shape as it has been. So lets talk about those kind of countries, because so far weve been talking really about the problems of the rich world. Huge government intervention, huge technological change. But for a large number of countries, you know, im thinking of india or indonesia, the Government Cant spend that much money, it doesnt have money to spend, so it has a public crisis, it has an economic crisis, and it cant borrow at the Rock Bottom rates that the western World Or Japan or china can. What happens to this group which is, of course, the vast majority of the Worlds Population . I think that group of countries has a much tougher time going forward, and for three reasons. Its in large part because many of those countries have much lower rates of vaccination in the rich world, so there is a big gap in the world now between the jobs and the job nots, if you will. If you have low rates of vaccination, the Delta Variant and any subsequent variant are causing far more hurt, far more loss, far more loss of life and economic damage. So thats one big hit. The second, as you say, these countries dont have the ability to stimulate their economies, to support people in the way that rich countries have. And, thirdly, they are also hit by these fissures in globalization, they are hit by a less hospitable global environment. And if the u. S. Is roaring along and starts raising interest rates, it is even harder for them because capital goes out of the united states back to those countries, making it even harder for those countries to rebound. And so we end up with a kind of tale of two worlds . It sounds very much like the kind of great gains of the last 20 or 30 years where the poor countries were catching up. Its being reversed now . I think thats really a genuine risk. If you look even in the years prior to the pandemic, the great gains that had happened in the 90s and 2000s were slowing, and many more poor countries were not catching up. So the ingredients of this were setting in before the pandemic. But i think covid has made it much harder for them, for the reasons i laid out, but also because of the cost of covid, the cost of not being in school, the cost of not being able to focus in any other areas of Health Care, these are hitting the poorest and most vulnerable people in the world the hardest. Unfortunately, for the middleincome countries in particular where the vast majority of the Worlds Population live, things have got much tougher. If you look around the world from columbia to South Africa to myanmar, you are seeing protest and political instability because people have aspirations and understandable aspirations that have delivered, and they are fed up with the situation they face themselves in, being political crackdowns. All these ingredients together i think are a fairly combustible mix. I think the outlook has gotten tougher for a lot of economies. Zanny, its been a pleasure. Thank you, fareed. 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