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Notion the taliban are somehow figures for some americans to admire. What is the department of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/homeland-security'>Homeland Security saying about this . Anderson, this was a call done with Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/law-enforcement'>Law Enforcement from the state and local governments. And Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/john-cohen'>John Cohen whos the top Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/intelligence-official'>Intelligence Official Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/at-t'>At The Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/homeland-security'>Homeland Security department raised the concern thHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/at-t'>At There was these domestic groups, white extremist, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/white-supremacist'>White Supremacists and domestic extremist groups that are antigovernment obviously who take some inspiration from whHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/at-t'>At They believe the taliban was able to accomplish. A small group or much smaller group, less armed is able to defeat essentially a much better armed military in this case the united states. And so they believe thHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/at-t'>At This is something that perhaps u. S. Extremists could do here in this country. They could use the same model the taliban was able to use there here in this country to defeHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/at-t'>At The u. S. Government. So what level of danger are Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/law-enforcement'>Law Enforcement agencies actually expecting . I mean is this how serious are they about this . Well, you know, serious enough that cohen mentioned this on a call that our geneva sands was able to obtain a copy of. Look, this is something thHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/at-t'>At They believe obviously theyve seen Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/trend-lines'>Trend Lines dating back to before Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/january-6th'>January 6th. Some of these extremists obviously were present Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/at-t'>At The u. S. Capitol on that day, and they believe thHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/at-t'>At This is the kind of thing that could essentially encourage some of the same activity that we saw on Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/january-6th'>January 6th. So its a very concerning thing thHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/at-t'>At They want Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/law-enforcement'>Law Enforcement to be on the lookout for. The. So is the praise i dont know if they have this level of detail but is the praise they have for the taliban is it based on their ideology at all or that a force of 75,000 or so taliban were able to over the course of 20 years once the u. S. Was going to pull out defeHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/at-t'>At The afghan government . Yeah, i mean some of this is based on some of these forums where people are talking about this. Theres another Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/group-fight-intelligence'>Group Fight Intelligence which has monitored some Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/telegram-channels'>Telegram Channels that are used by proud boys who are praising the taliban obviously for their antisemitism. But, anderson, it goes beyond that because obviously we have Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/tens-of-thousands'>Tens Of Thousands of afghans who are being resettled in this country as refugees. Obviously some of these people were working with u. S. Forces and theyre being settled around the country. The concern the department has as well as the fbi those refugees could then become targets of some of these groups. Its not only about being antigovernment but also antirefugee because theres this whole on the right theres this whole view of this great replacement theory, right . Its a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/conspiracy-theory'>Conspiracy Theory thHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/at-t'>At The u. S. Government has some plan to replace white citizens with people from other countries. And you hear this not only in those channels, of course, also on fox news. You hear a lot of this sentiment. And thats the thing that you hear from Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/law-enforcement'>Law Enforcement is very concerning. Evan perez, appreciate it. Joining us now is andrew mccabe, cnn Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/law-enforcement'>Law Enforcement analyst and former Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/deputy-director'>Deputy Director of the fbi, also cnn national Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/security-analyst'>Security Analyst and Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/assistant-secretary'>Assistant Secretary for Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/homeland-security'>Homeland Security juliet kayyem. What do you make of this . Its some way its surprising and in some ways we shouldnt be surprised at all. I think weve seen over time thHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/at-t'>At The domestic Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/extremist-community'>Extremist Community particularly the racially motivated Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/extremists-cherry-pick'>Extremists Cherry Pick facts from take them out of context and then weave them into their grievances and Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/conspiracy-theories'>Conspiracy Theories in order to make a point, and you have a cup of really powerful things theyre working on right now. First is this connection to the taliban, which of course theyre manipulating and grossly misrepresenting what happened in afghanistan. But they love this idea that a small band of, you know, homegrown militants can defeat a major government that, you know, resonates with their antigovernment beliefs. And also on the racist side the impending immigration from afghanistan is something that really rings with these people who are who embrace things like the great replacement theory. So its a toxic mixture that i think our intelligence and Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/law-enforcement'>Law Enforcement folks really need to keep a look at. Its also stunning when you think about, you know, there is an entire kind of misinformation system, community of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/television-networks'>Television Networks and, you know, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/internet-folk'>Internet Folk and Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/conspiracy-theorists'>Conspiracy Theorists who have online shows promoting this and giving fire to it. Thats absolutely right. I think thats what makes this fundamentally different now than, you know, domestic extremists who harbor racist and antiimmigrant views. Weve had that in this country for decades and decades. I mean most prominently came up after vietnam with the relocation of vietnamese refugees here in the united states. The difference now is one Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/social-media'>Social Media allows these folks to unite, spread their Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/hatred-and-filth'>Hatred And Filth to like minded folks and recruit others to their way of thinking, and now we have the echoing of those Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/conspiracy-theories'>Conspiracy Theories and this nonsense on major media outlets. And that is just kind of tHrowing gasoline onto this problem and really given the domestic extremists a leg up, if you will. Juliet, im sorry, we lost you there for a second. What about this concerns you . I completely agree with andrew. And a cup of things. One, is i am a little bit worried about the white Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/supremacist-focus'>Supremacist Focus on Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/9-11'>9 11, thHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/at-t'>At They will view Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/9-11'>9 11 as a target simply because they like certain dates. Remember Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/oklahoma-city'>Oklahoma City was the same day as waco. And so one thing thHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/at-t'>At The department is looking at is this period of time up to Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/9-11'>9 11. We used to joke in our humor the radicalization of the right we used to call vanilla isis, in other words it was just about radicalization. What we have to remember is theyre really focused on an image of america thHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/at-t'>At They dont like this america, the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/white-supremacist'>White Supremacist groups and rightwing groups. It is this america, it is a diverse Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/america-one'>America One in which women are equal, one in which there is diversity, this great replacement that andrew was talking about that sound very similar to the taliban. And so there is a nexus in terms of both the international sentiment of a radicalization or a sort of fascism that we see in the terrorist groups but thats then repeated by the member of congress as weve heard recently sort of radicalizing and talking about violence and of course the right wing media machine. This is why we not surprising as andrew said just given whHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/at-t'>At Their sentiment is. And andrew, obviously theres the concern about for Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/refugee-families'>Refugee Families who are resettling here. Yes. I mean its always its not new thHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/at-t'>At Theres been animosity toward you know, toward refugees who have come to the united states from various conflicts. But, you know, i lets juliette, is there anything that can be done about that . People would often ask me what makes Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/america-safer'>America Safer and i would say our capacity to negotiate with an open heart. Over time our willingness to accept people who come here and integrate them so thHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/at-t'>At Their mission is our mission, right, and that its their dream, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/the-american-dream'>The American Dream thHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/at-t'>At They succeed, thHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/at-t'>At Their children are better than the next generation of this and the same things all americans want. That has been so successful if you just look at our demographics, were now a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/country-heading'>Country Heading towards majority nonwhite citizenship. That doesnt even include immigration, that in the next two decades that will probably for two or tHree decades. So thats our Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/success-story'>Success Story. They view that as of course a harm. And we have to remember as Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/americas-success'>Americas Success not gist in terms of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/heart-and-morality'>Heart And Morality but actually in terms of our safety and security. What i would just simply ask is the more we can actually bring people in and make them feel their dreams are actually our dreams and vice versa, that is the american Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/success-story'>Success Story and that makes us more safe, more secure. And the numbers are relatively small under 100,000 likely to come here. We dont know the exact number thHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/at-t'>At They will be integrated i think willingly across the united states. You know, andrew, whats so troubling is that i talked about Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/misinformation-networks'>Misinformation Networks but also frankly that its now wrapped up sort of antisemitism, antiimmigrant sentiment, its somehow now wrapped up in the american flag by these people as if that you know, that Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/term-patriot'>Term Patriot has always been a really beautiful and important term has completely been coopted by a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/lot-kind'>Lot Kind of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/weekend-warriors'>Weekend Warriors are, you know, attacked the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/tap-tol'>Tap Tol and are apparently, you know, now praising the taliban. Youre absolutely right. Its one of the things about this entire movement that frustrate me the most. Its that cooptation of all the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/symbolism-and-language'>Symbolism And Language and patriotism of what it means to be an american. And of course they worked that, went tHrough tHrough their own views of this concept of real americans, ie, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/white-people'>White People who look like them. And its just absolutely a theft from this country and all of the people who make up this country of our history and our shared heritage. Its no different, anderson, than the people who claim to back the blue and claim to be great supporters of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/law-enforcement'>Law Enforcement who were beating the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/capitol-police'>Capitol Police officers with flagpoles and all sorts of implements on Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/january-6th'>January 6th. Thats not supporting Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/law-enforcement'>Law Enforcement. Youre not a patriot when you attack our nations capitol. So its these ideological inconsistencies are rampant in the domestic Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/extremist-community'>Extremist Community because they pick and choose those facts, those symbols those things they think exalt their own presence and their own goals. And they just misuse them for their own purposes. Just seeing this video, it is just medieval and sickening to watch this again. Yeah, this happened. Its extraordinary. Andrew mccabe, julia cayium, appreciate it. Thank you. Today americas top Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/military-commander'>Military Commander reflected on the aftermath. He talked about the troops. I wasnt born a four star general. I have walked the patrols and been blown up and shot at and Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/rpg-and-everything'>Rpg And Everything else. My Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/pain-and-anger'>Pain And Anger comes from the same of the grieving families, thosame as those soldiers on the ground. This is tough stuff. War is hard. Its vicious, its brutal. Its unforgiving. And yes, we all have Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/pain-and-anger'>Pain And Anger. And when we see what has unfolded over the last 20 years and last 20 days that creates Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/pain-and-anger'>Pain And Anger, and mine comes from 242 of my soldiers killed in action over 20 years in iraq and afghanistan. So, yeah, i have that but im a professional soldier. Im going to contain my Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/pain-and-anger'>Pain And Anger and continue to execute my mission. With more on the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/pain-and-anger'>Pain And Anger he speaks of its now being felt tHrough the ranks. Im not sure the question he was asked that prompted that, but to hear the chairman of the joint Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/chiefs-speak'>Chiefs Speak of those terms its rare. Its incredibly rare. He pointed outright at Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End there he is a professional soldier. He knows his official sort of function is as an advisor to the president and follows the orders hes given. Its incredibly rare for him to talk about his emotions, the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/pain-and-anger'>Pain And Anger. He referenced that in the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/opening-statement'>Opening Statement what he thought about the situation hes looking at and sort of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/processing-everything'>Processing Everything thats happened including of course the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/terrorist-bombing'>Terrorist Bombing that killed 13 u. S. Service members just a few days ago and that simply came out here. He was explaining that Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/pain-and-anchor'>Pain And Anchor in a question from my colleague barbara star, quite a stunning moment of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/frankness-and-reflection'>Frankness And Reflection from general Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/mark-milly'>Mark Milly on what he feels wrapping up americas longest war. Weve also learned tonight some disturbing news about many of the allied afghans who worked to support u. S. Personnel. That news is that many of them according to a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/state-department-official'>State Department Official didnt get out, perhaps maybe a majority of them. And here were talking specifically about Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/afghan-siv'>Afghan Siv applicants, special Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/immigrant-visa-applicants'>Immigrant Visa Applicants, those who worked as interpreters and other roles along side u. S. Troops. The Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/state-department'>State Department had said there were about 18,000 of them. Some of them were processed in essentially what is a very long process, but that was accelerated to try to get them out as quickly as possible and now were learning according to a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/state-department-official'>State Department Official many of them perhaps even a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/majority-werent'>Majority Werent able to get out and it was afghans at risk able to get out as well as of course u. S. Citizen. If you look Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/at-t'>At The Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/priority-list'>Priority List for who the administration was going for, u. S. Citizens obviously Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/at-t'>At The top, and then it was this group Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/afghan-siv'>Afghan Sivs and then afghans at risk, which there are certainly Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/tens-of-thousands'>Tens Of Thousands if not hundreds of thousands. But the sivs, these special Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/immigrant-visa-applicants'>Immigrant Visa Applicants who would help the u. S. Were high on the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/priority-list'>Priority List, so it is frankly horrible to hear that many of them are still there in country, were trying to get out and in Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End were unable to. It opens up a question not only about how does this administration bring out the last 100 or 200 americans there, but theres still an Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/obligation-president'>Obligation President Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/joe-biden'>Joe Biden talked about to get out Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/afghan-siv'>Afghan Siv applicants, and that process may very well rely on the taliban even more now than it did. We should just point out, though, that sivs are very high on the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/priority-list'>Priority List. The prior administration, and i mean there has been years of chances to accelerate and improve this process. That was not done. Nobody wanted to be the person signing off on having afghans coming to the united states until suddenly people started to, you know, wake up to the reality the taliban has taken over. Youre exactly right. And this is something that was pointed out in the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/press-briefing-today'>Press Briefing Today with the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/defense-secretary'>Defense Secretary and joint chiefs chairman. The afghan Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/siv-process'>Siv Process was never a process designed to operate within this twoweek time frame of the operation. In Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End it wasnt just the application that was the process. There was a dynamic, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/fluid-environment'>Fluid Environment that was changing on the ground. Of course, a deadly Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/security-situation'>Security Situation there as well and trying to move these people from wherever they were, and they were not all in kabul, to get them tHrough there and then tHrough taliban checkpoint. Tist an incredibly difficult situation. Orrin leiberman, appreciate it. Thanks. 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Breaking news now on republican efforts to stymie the committee investigating Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/january-6th'>January 6th and punish the two gop members of the committee. Cnn has learned Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/arizona-congressman'>Arizona Congressman Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/andy-biggs'>Andy Biggs is planning to send a letter to Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/house-minority-leader'>House Minority Leader Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/kevin-mccarthy'>Kevin Mccarthy this week. It would call on him to remove Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/liz-cheney'>Liz Cheney and Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/adam-kinzinger'>Adam Kinzinger from the republican conference. Hes a big loyalist to the former Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/president-moo'>President Moo worked to overturn the election. Congress mccarthy has level a veiled unmistakable tHreat against telecom and Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/social-media'>Social Media companies that cooperate with the committee. Congresswoman serves on committee joins us now, and sits on the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/judiciary-committee'>Judiciary Committee and chairs the house administration committee. Thanks for being with us. So congressman Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/andy-biggs'>Andy Biggs, the head of the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/house-freedom-caucus'>House Freedom Caucus has sent a letter to Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/kevin-mccarthy'>Kevin Mccarthy asking him to remove Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/liz-cheney'>Liz Cheney and Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/adam-kinzinger'>Adam Kinzinger for their roles going as far to call them spies for the democrats. What do you say to that . Well, its absurd. You know, its really astonishing that people are calling to sanction these two members of congress who are simply doing their duty and other members of congress who are republicans are calling for violence and not a word, not a peep of condemnation for that discussion. Its really very confounding. I mean, it makes sense thHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/at-t'>At Theyre calling for, you know calling for against Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/cheney-and-kinzinger'>Cheney And Kinzinger when you consider the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/minority-leader'>Minority Leader, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/kevin-mccarthy'>Kevin Mccarthy, is tHreatening Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/telecommunications-companies'>Telecommunications Companies and Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/social-media'>Social Media companies if they cooperate with a duly appointed committee. Well, aside from the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/fact-section'>Fact Section 1505 of the federal Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/criminal-code'>Criminal Code says its a felony to tHreHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/at-t'>At To try to impede a congressional investigation, one would hope thHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/at-t'>At The Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/minority-leader'>Minority Leader would want to get to the bottom of what happened here just like the rest of america. I would hope you would want to step forward and be a participant in getting the truth instead of trying to hide the truth. Yeah, but you dont really think that. I mean is Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/it-motivation'>It Motivation for mccarthy to is he just afraid of what may found, sore is it to look tough to his constituents, to other member of congress . I have no way of knowing what is motivating his behavior. Ill just say it is very disappointing. Quite possibly not even legal and not what i expect from one of the leaders of the nation. We should be Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/all-of-us'>All Of Us working to get the truth. We know mccarthy spoke with the former president on the day of the insurrection as did other congressional republicans. Are mccarthys records or those of any member of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/congress-part'>Congress Part of the request the committee has made . Well, we havent requested records from the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/telecom-companies'>Telecom Companies or Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/social-media'>Social Media. We asked that material be retained and not destroyed. And later if we feel it is necessary to get the truth we will use our proper procedures or seek records. But we didnt release the list because this is not an accusation. This is an investigation. We need to follow the facts and uncover the truth, and we didnt believe that releasing a list of names was productive towards that end. Theres a lot of reasonings why Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/phone-calls'>Phone Calls or Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/text-messages'>Text Messages with administrative officials could be relevant to the investigation. But well see as we move forward what we need to get, and were not going to be deter. I mean, we have a mission here which is to uncover the truth for the american people, and Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/all-of-us'>All Of Us very focused on doing that. Congresswoman, i appreciate your time. Thank you. Cnn legal analyst and former Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/deputy-assistant-attorney'>Deputy Assistant Attorney general elliot williams. Do you think Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/minority-leader'>Minority Leader Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/mc-mccarthy'>Mc Mccarthy crossed some sort of legal line and broke the law . It was a shameful statement made by a leader of grz. The question is could or should you charge him with a crime for it, and i just think the answer to that, anderson, is probably no. Look, the law is pretty clear who has obstructed the violated obstruction of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/justice-statute'>Justice Statute but a few things give him something to hide behind. Number one, hes a member of congress shielded by whats called the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/speech-or-debate'>Speech Or Debate clause of the constitution. And most of the things that come out of members of congress mouths are going to be protected. Look if he goes into court thats the first thing he says to the judge, then he has a decent chance of getting charges tHrown out on that basis. Its just one statement, its an ugly statement, but i just dont you can charge him on this alone or should charge him on this alone. And even on political reasons it ends up its like a gunfight where everyones pointing guns at each other. And it would slow down getting anything actually done. Yeah, look, its a sideshow, its a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/clown-show'>Clown Show in Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/effect-being-led'>Effect Being Led by the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/minority-leader'>Minority Leader. At Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of the day the party with the power here is congress. He doesnt have the power to Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/number-one'>Number One regardless of what hes saying about the rights that companies have to say no, he doesnt have any pow here. And Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/at-t'>At The of the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/day-congress'>Day Congress can subpoena here. The committee can subpoena all these Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/telecommunications-companies'>Telecommunications Companies and so on, move on, ignore and recognize an individual like Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/kevin-mccarthy'>Kevin Mccarthy who has an interest in the proceedings is just running his mouth. If democrats wanted to could they formally request the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/justice-department-investigation'>Justice Department Investigation . Individual members of congress can just like you and i can, you can make a statement to congress. And its just you believe the matter warrants the investigation of the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/justice-department'>Justice Department. Congress can go to a whole formal proceeding and refer it to the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/justice-department'>Justice Department. But again all that is a statement that you think the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/justice-department'>Justice Department ought to investigate it. At Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of the day its the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/justice-department'>Justice Departments call. And right now you just dont have a great basis for charging him with a crime for this. Elliot williams, appreciate that for that. Next well have reactions to the controversial Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/texas-law'>Texas Law just enacted that Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/bans-abortion'>Bans Abortion in the state before many women even know theyre pregnant. Details in what may be ahead coming up. Your Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/heart-isnt'>Heart Isnt just yours. Protect it with bayer aspirin. Be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. And there you have it woah. Wireless on the most reliable network nationwide. Wow big deal . 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Jeffrey earlier today you said this just the beginning of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of roe v. Wade. Talk about whHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/at-t'>At This law means and why the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/supreme-court'>Supreme Court didnt actually even address it or intervene . Well, its pretty straightforward. Roe v. Wade was decided january 23, 1973. THrough all the subsequent decisions one thing has been clear. A state cannot ban abortion. But as of september 1, 2021, texes has banned abortion in the state and the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/supreme-court'>Supreme Court has done nothing about it. That is significant. Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/29-million'>29 Million people in total live in texas. But this is also a model for the antiabortion states to follow so that it looks like, and again without the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/supreme-court'>Supreme Court stepping in these states can start banning abortion without the interference of the united states Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/supreme-court'>Supreme Court. Just to be clear this law thHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/at-t'>At Texas has passed, it allows private citizens to bring civil lawsuits against anyone who assists a pregnant person seeking an abortion an violation of the ban. That means not just doctors, does that include friends, relatives of the woman seeking an abortion, an Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/uber-driver'>Uber Driver who drove them to the clinic . Anderson, this law is unique and i say that with gratitude because it is so completely bizarre. The idea that anyone in Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/new-york'>New York, in montana, in california can file a lawsuit in texas and say Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/john-smith'>John Smith a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/ob-gyn-doctor'>Ob Gyn Doctor did an abortion, and i want that person stopped. And i want a 10,000 reward for that, and i want my Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/attorneys-fee'>Attorneys Fee pays. That can be done. I know an Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/uber-driver'>Uber Driver who drove someone to an abortion. Wait, under this law you get a 10,000 award for you get a bounty. This is basically awarding Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/bounty-hunters'>Bounty Hunters around the country who can identify people who Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/aid-and-abet'>Aid And Abet abortion. Now whHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/at-t'>At ThHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/at-t'>At Term means, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/aid-and-abet'>Aid And Abet, has not been decided since this law is new. But i mean those words have fairly clear meaning. And this is an invitation to anyone in the entire united states to, you know, spy on doctors, to spy on Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/uber-driver'>Uber Drivers, to spy on relative of women seeking abortions and go try to pick up that money. Whats actually going to happen as a result is Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/abortion-providers'>Abortion Providers will simply stop providing abortions because they dont want to be exposed to that kind of liability, and thats the point of the law, banning abortion in texas. Was there any explanation from any justice on the court why the court did not take this up . This is to me as someone whos followed the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/supreme-court'>Supreme Court for a long time perhaps the most disgraceful thing about the institution of the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/supreme-court'>Supreme Court. Look, everyone knows how the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/supreme-court'>Supreme Court works. The Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/first-monday-in-october'>First Monday In October they hear arguments, they decide cases. By Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of june. Thats how the court is supposed to work. But here on perhaps the second most significant case of the last 100 years roe v. Wade, after only brown v. Board of emicat education they allow this case to be violated i dont think anyone denies that with no opinion. The whole point of the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/supreme-court'>Supreme Court wrewriting an opinion is at least theyre obligated to explain whHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/at-t'>At They do. Here you have this enormously consequential thing, the fact this big state no longer allows abortion, and the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/supreme-court'>Supreme Court was asked about it and they didnt say yes, they didnt say no. They just let it go. ThHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/at-t'>At To me is just a total dereliction of duty on the part of the justices. So what happens now . Well, abortion is illegal in texas. Thats now the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/status-quo'>Status Quo. It is possible thHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/at-t'>At The Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/supreme-court'>Supreme Court having been asked will eventually get around to dealing with this case. But it certainly hasnt happened yet. And they may not issue a stay. They may simply say, well, well hear this in the due course. But the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/status-quo'>Status Quo now is abortion is illegal in texas. The Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/supreme-court'>Supreme Court is also hearing a case out of out of mississippi in the usual course of business where they are where mississippi issued a similar draconian ban, and they are going to decide whether that is constitutional. That seems to be the vehicle to decide the fate of roe v. Wade once and for all. But i think it is fair to at least assume thHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/at-t'>At The fact thHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/at-t'>At They let this Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/law-go-into-effect'>Law Go Into Effect is thHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/at-t'>At There are at least five justices who think its okay for texas to ban abortion. Well see. Jeff, thanks. Joining me now is cecile richards, a texas native. Your reaction when this happened. I mean, this is a tragic day for women not only in texas but across the country because the news is just the tip of the iceberg. Once this kind of law is allowed to go into effect and really overnight Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/7-million'>7 Million women of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/childbearing-age'>Childbearing Age just lost a right theyve had for almost 50 years, this is going to embolden the opponents of safe and legal abortion, and were going to see more of tis. The stories coming out of health centers today, ive been talking to folks down there, are really heart breaking. Women who show up and found out theyd lost their legal rights overnight. And i think the thing, anderson, that is really so upsetting is that its not that abortion will not exist in texas. Its just that legal and safe Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/abortion-wont'>Abortion Wont exist. And of course when roe was decided so many years ago it was in large part because young, healthy women were dying in Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/emergency-rooms'>Emergency Rooms from botched abortions around the country. And i fear for the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/health-and-wellbeing'>Health And Wellbeing of women and pregnant people in texas and in other states that are enacting these kinds of these kinds of laws. You have Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/no-doubt'>No Doubt that women will die in texas from underground abortions . Well, we know what happened just a few years ago actually when texas passed really outrageous laws. Of course we had no idea there was something even more draconian that could be passed, and of course the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/supreme-court'>Supreme Court ruled unconstitutional. A different court, not a court with tHree trump appointees on it. But that we saw Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/at-t'>At ThHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/at-t'>At Time when clinics had to close that women started going to going across the border to mexico. Women started buying abortion pills online, you know, taking matters into their own hands. So i cant predict whats going to happen, but for many women in the state of texas particularly women who live in rural areas, who are low income, young women who are now going to be even fearful about asking how to access safe and legal abortion outside the state, i really fear for what is going to happen. This is republican Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/party-politics'>Party Politics at its worst, and the heartlessness of this particular legislation, its disregard for women, their ability to make their own decisions is i think its something going to have political consequences. It also just increases inequities in certainly in texas and the country. Wealthy people who have access can travel, go to another state. Others will dont have those options. Aets exactly right, anderson. And i think one of you know, one of the things that is going to be interesting to see is this law is so extreme it affects everyone. I dont care where you live, you live in Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/highland-park'>Highland Park or the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/rio-grande-valley'>Rio Grande Valley you cant get an abortion anymore in texas. I think its going to be a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/wakeup-call'>Wakeup Call to just assume a right women have had for almost 50 years was going to stay intact. I mean this is this is going to cause the kind of outrage that i think can effect politics in texas and around the country. But as you say, you know, im hearing stories of women who are showing up, women who dont have the resources to leave the state to go to new mexico, to go to another place. And i just i really shudder to think what will happen. Of course one thing thats been mentioned by many people is thHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/at-t'>At This law makes no exceptions for a victim of rape of incest, nothing. You cant get an abortion in texas. And the cruelty of this legislation is really hard to describe. And its not the texas that we know. This is not whHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/at-t'>At The voters of texas support. This is a republican party led by Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/greg-abbott'>Greg Abbott that is sort of i think using his own politics Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/at-t'>At The expense of women. Cecile richards, i appreciate your time tonight. Thank you. Up next theres Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/breaking-news'>Breaking News. Joe rogan just disclosed he has covid. He also acknowledged taking a controversial treatment designed for animal. Thats coming up. Approved Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/y-fda-combination'>Y Fda Combination of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/advil-plus'>Advil Plus acetaminophen. Advil targets pain. Acetaminophen blocks it. Advil dual action. Fast Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/pain-relief'>Pain Relief that lasts 8 hours. 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You have a bunch of people with dubious credentials. Thats your characterization. Thats all your characterization. So far youve provide no evidence. You might as well be working for dominion and smartmatic. Im just waiting for you to provide the evidence. Yeah, well, youll see it in court. Randy kaye joins me now. Theyve been saying youll see it in court. I mean they were in court. They were tHrown out of every court, you know, in all the various jurisdictions thHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/at-t'>At They brought this stuff to court. Yeah, absolutely, anderson. So where is the evidence . Thats the key, but now this reporter, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/sarah-ferguson'>Sarah Ferguson, she did a great job. 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