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States down south are still without power. And it could be for weeks before that power is restored. The storm left a trail of destruction in louisiana and mississippi, and now comes the scorching heat with no power. Temperatures could hit 103 degrees today. Overnight, two people were killed when floods washed out a major roadway between mississippi and louisiana. First, afghanistan, the challenges still ahead, and the legacy of what has been left behind. Joining me now is pentagon Press Secretary John Kirby. Thanks so much for being with us. You know, im cognizant of the fact that you spent your life in public service, a big chunk of it in the military. Whats it like for you to wake up this morning and after 20 years, for the first time in 20 years, to have no u. S. Troops in afghanistan . Yeah, i think were all still processing that, john, to be honest with you. It is something that for two decades weve all been connected to, without question. And i think its going to take time for every veteran to sort of process this on their own. What i can tell you is here at the pentagon theres a mixture of relief we were able to get everybody out safely in those last few hours, all the last remaining 800 troops, and we were able to evacuate 600 americans, 123,000 total people out. Theres concern, obviously, over the ones we couldnt get out. That time and space and the Security Threat simply wouldnt allow us to reach. Although we dont think the numbers are large, we are obviously concerned about our friends, allies and american citizens that are there. I want to come back to the 100 or 200 americans who might be there. First, the Picture Weve been showing from the l. A. Times, the Taliban Walkeding through the hangar, fully armed taliban wearing what looked to be american gear looking at american equipment. I wonder what these images, again, whats the takeaway here if at any point in the last 20 years i had said to you that there would be taliban fighters inspecting u. S. Helicopters inside an evacuated hangar, how is It Anything Other than a u. S. Defeat . John, i would tell you that they can inspect all they want. They can look at them, they can walk around, but they cant fly them. They cant operate them. We made sure to demilitarize to make unusable all the gear that is at the airport. All the aircraft, all the ground vehicles. The only thing we left operable are a couple of Fire Trucks and forklifts so that the airport itself can remain more operational going forward. So i think were not overly concerned about these images of them walking around. But, again, we did everything we could to make sure that Equipment Couldnt be used by them going forward. And as for the defeat narrative, john, historians will write theyll write the chapters here. What i can tell you is that we prevented afghanistan from ever becoming a Safe Haven for an attack on the united states again. And in the process, u. S. Forces, coalition forces, our nato allies and afghan partners made a lot of progress in that country, progress which is going to be up to the taliban whether they are willing to continue or not. They have made promises and now the united States Government and international community are going to hold them accountable to those promises. You said prevented an attack on the united states from afghanistan. There was an attack on u. S. Service members last week, and there are still give or take 100 plus u. S. Citizens who want to get out. What is your current assessment of the threat they might be under . There is no question the Threat Environment in afghanistan remains high. Obviously we are concerned about the potential for taliban retribution going forward. We certainly and we saw it ourselves, are mindful of the Threat Isisk continues to pose inside afghanistan. As general mackenzie said yesterday, the taliban is going to reap what they sew when they release these isisk prisoners. Theyre going to be struggling against an isisk threat. What i can tell you is as a government, were going to stay mindful of our commitment to the remaining american citizens and we dont believe there are many, and afghan allies, to hold the taliban to their promise of Safe Passage. Its not going to be their words, but their deeds. We have a lot of tools across the government to do that. I know thats the promise, but President Biden at one point promised that u. S. Troops would stay until all american citizens who wanted to get out got out. There are still american citizens there and u. S. Troops are gone. So if you assess, if the military assesses that these 100 plus americans are under imminent threat, whats the military prepared to do about it . Our job is to provide options to the commander in chief, not to make policy. Ill leave it right there, john. What i can tell you is we have other tools available to us as a government to help the Safe Passage of americans get out of that country or any other country. Its not totally unlike the ways we try to move american citizens who are stranded or in Danger Or Peril out of other countries around the world. We have lots of tools available to us. I dont foresee a Military Role at this time. But thats going to be a decision by the commander in chief. What i can tell you is were going to remain committed to getting them home as fast and efficiently as possible. Though the Military Mission has ended, the united States Commitment to them has not. So, when people say americas longest war is over, is it . Yes. Yes, it is. There are no american troops any more in afghanistan. The Military Mission, the war itself is over. No matter what happens to the 100 americans still there . John, i dont want to get into speculating one way or another. We dont see a Military Role here in helping these last individuals getting out, and obviously our job is to provide the president options, but i dont foresee that thats an option right now that is going to be needed. Again, were focused on making sure we meet our commitment to them. The other thing, john, id like to add is just remember, 6,000 americans did get out safely. And 123,000 other people, mostly afghans, vast majority are afghans. So we did meet a measure of our promises and commitments to americans who wanted to get out and to afghans who wanted to get out. I just dont think that should be overlooked. It is a remarkable achievement, no question, the number of people who were removed from the country over an incredibly short period of time. It is impressive. There are questions about whether or not it could have begun sooner, correct . Theres going to be all kinds of time to do the forensics on this, john. What i can tell you is that we had been planning for Noncombatant Evacuation Operations All The Way back to the spring, back to april. It was something on the Plate And Secretary Austin Prepositioned Forces well before the taliban had been making their moves on the provincial capitals here in early august, well before that. He decided weeks before that to preposition forces in the region in afghanistan in case we were going to need them. I would remind everyone, we went in the span of 48 hours in mid august. We went from believing we had an afghan government, an Ally And Partner we could rely on, an Afghan Forces to develop a pragmatic partnership with the taliban to effect these evacuations. Im not at all discounting our concern over those that didnt get out and those that are still there. We absolutely share that concern and were heartbroken we couldnt get everybody. But in a span of less than 20 days to be able to move out more than 120,000 people safely, mostly afghans, i think is a remarkable achievement by the pentagon and by our State Department and by our coalition allies, too. I do have to let you go. I just want to ask again, big picture here, maybe put on your old State Department hat here as well. As the world looks at this this morning, as the world looks at this morning where there are no u. S. Troops in afghanistan for the first time in 20 years, what do you think the lesson is in terms of american power . I think i dont know that im qualified to answer that question, john. I think theres going to be a lot of time for historians and Acade Academics to work their way through that. What i can tell you is weve learned a lot over the last 20 years and weve improved a lot of our counterterrorism capabilities, intelligence capabilities. There was Progress Made in afghanistan. It will be up to the taliban to see what they do with the progress. Theres been a lot of Progress Made. In the course of 20 years of trying to prevent that place from ever being a Safe Haven again, we did learn a lot. We accomplished a lot. Now were going to have to see where it goes forward. What i can tell you is were not going to take our eye off the terrorism ball. Were not going to remove the capabilities we have available to us to protect the american people. All of those capabilities are still available to us and well use they have. John kirby, i do appreciate you being with us. I only disagree that youre unqualified to answer just about any question. Its a question i look forward to talking to you about over the coming weeks, months and years. Thanks so much for being with us this morning. Thank you. And for reaction to what John Kirby just said, lets bring in democratic congressman Seth Moulton, member of the house Services Committee who went on unauthorized trip to the Kabul Airport with a republican colleague because they said they werent getting sufficient answers from the biden administration. Congressman moulton, what is your reaction to John Kirby saying, yes, The War Is Over . Is this how you saw it ending . Well, i dont think its how any of us wanted to see it end. But its true that it is a relief to have our troops home safely and its a remarkable achievement that we got so many people out. But one thing i strongly disagree with john on, he said its a remarkable achievement of the pentagon that we evacuated so many of our americans and allies. It is not a remarkable achievement of the pentagon, its a remarkable achievement of the troops. What we saw was truly extraordinary. Marines going forward of the gate, sifting through thousands of afghans to try to find our allies at tremendous risk to themselves. I expected to see afghans on one side of the gate and americans on the other. That wasnt the case at all. The american marines had to be out there, the taliban with their horse whips trying to find our allies. And every time they took an afghan by the hand, they put a little Afghan Girl on their shoulders and walked them to our lines, literally, literally carrying afghans to freedom. They were doing it at tremendous risk and cost the lives of 13 americans. If there is anything we need to take away from the withdrawal, its the remarkable achievement of our troops. I dont want anyone to lose sight of that. Yeah, over 121,000 people total evacuated out of kabul over the last several days alone. I think the question, still, though, we heard from Central Command yesterday, there are between 100 and 200 americans who are still in afghanistan that want to leave. And so the president , if you are measuring him against his own words, did Tell Abc that u. S. Forces would stay in afghanistan until every american who wanted to come home came home. That clearly did not happen. Do you think they will be successful bringing those people home . The situation got a lot dicier with the military home. I absolutely believe in the President S commitment. He understands how important this is. I believe we will be committed as a government to getting these people out, whatever it takes. But it is going to be hard and i dont think weve done enough preparation right now to be ready for what is going to be required of our relationship with the taliban, our diplomacy going forward. All the things that need to come together to make this happen. Theres no question that this Evac Evacuation should have started earlier, as many veterans in congress were calling for for a long time. But we are where we are Today And Weve got to make sure that we have plans that we can use to get people out. Kaitlan, let me also say that while were celebrating this remarkable airlift, lets not forget all these 123,000 afghans are now sitting in refugee camps. That was our next stop on our trip. What we witnessed was a looming humanitarian crisis where people are on the virerge of literally running out of Food And Water because so many are crammed into Warehouses Mechbt for airplane parts like qatar. We need to reinforce that mission. We still have a lot of lives to save, to make good on our promise we will bring these families to freedom. You say the evacuation should have started sooner than it did. The President S national Security Adviser Jake sullivan was just on television defending the decisions theyve made here. And those who are criticizing are not the ones who have to sit in the Situation Room and make the hard calls about the threats that we face and the objectives were trying to obtain. Congressman moulton, do you think the president does deserve credit for bringing these forces out of afghanistan after several President S before him said they would do so and, of course, did not . Look, of course, he deserves credit for this. Ultimately this was President Bidens decision to withdraw forces from afghanistan. But there are a lot of questions about how it was done, and those are questions that we have a responsibility to answer. Not for the sake of finger pointing, but so that we ensure we dont make these mistakes in the future. I know the families of those 13 marines want to make sure that we ask these questions so we get it right. And if we ever have to do an operation like this again, we wont make mistakes that cost american lives. Yeah, over two decades of war, to see it come to an end is so monumental, of course, and the way it was happening in its final days. Congressman Seth Moulton, thank you for joining us this morning. Thank you, kaitlan. Think about both of those men, too. John kirby, Retired Rear Admiral who served in the military for a long time, Seth Moulton with several tours interact. Afghanistans been a giant part of their lives for the last two decades. I do think it raises a good question about is there going to be a period of selfreflection. Not just for the biden administration and the choices they made when it comes to execution of this, bull for past President S and really what we learned here, given the u. S. s leaving afghanistan with the taliban back in power, and more powerful than they were 20 years ago. Thats what i was trying to get at with John Kirby. He talked about the equipment nonoperable. The fact there is a picture of the taliban inspecting u. S. Equipment 20 years after the u. S. Went in to get rid of the taliban, in part, you know, it shows you whats happened over that time. Also, that Equipment Isnt inoperable. They said they made sure of that. The aircraft, the humvs. Theres a lot that isnt. To say they dont have anything is obviously they got a lot. Also you have John Kirby saying, when i asked, is it americas longest wharf . He said yes, right away. Seth moulton and others say, look, you cant really say its over until you take care of all these other things and the possible threats that might loom. It will be interesting to see if President Biden frames it that way, that The War Is Over today because we did hear that from the Secretary Of State yesterday. We will hear from President Biden this afternoon. This comes as Russia And China are stepping in after the u. S. War in afghanistan with a war on the truth. We have a Reality Check coming up on that. Plus louisiana hospitals already full of covid patients now treating Hurricane Victims. Were going to speak to a top doctor at the states largest hospital. And the republican congressman talking about Blood Shed as he spreads election lies. Oh are you using liberty Mutuals Coverage Customizer tool . So you only pay for what you need. Sorry . Limu, youre an animal only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. More than A Million homes and businesses without power this morning in louisiana after Hurricane Ida, that means no lights, no air conditioning, no refrigerators. It could stay that way for weeks. Hospitals there are now dealing with the double onslaught of Hurricane Victims and covid. Intensive care units were already at or over capacity at the states largest hospitals. One Hospital Weve been speaking with regularly is Our Lady Of The Lake Regional Medical Center in baton rouge. And joining us now from that hospital is catherine oneil, the hospitals chief medical officer. Dr. Oneil, always a pleasure to have you on this morning. I understand you still have power. W what have the impacts been of Hurricane Ida . After the storm started making landfall, we started to see Power Outages around town. That brings the first wave of patients to the hospital who are looking for extra care. Maybe have a concentrator at home for oxygen. We have so many people who have oxygen needs during this Covid Surge at home who are looking for extra medical care. We tried to get that out to them as much as possible. But you start to see some of that wave of patients. And then as the storm got worse, people really did hunker down. The hospital became very quiet. We slept about A Thousand people in the hospital, being able to have a Day And Night shift for days to come just in case we had more issues than we anticipated, and we did. Many of our Health Care workers live east of the Storm And East of the hospital. So we have a lot of people without power who are working in the hospital today, a lot of people who dont have a home to go back to yet. A lot of Tree Damage and road closures that are keeping our Health Care workers being able to go back and forth to check on their own families. Now, where are you with covid or where were you before the storm even came . So, just in the last week we started to see just a slight decrease in our number of patients admitted every day. Obviously in the last 48 hours, weve seen less people. Our concern is always that those people are at home, that theyre not able to get to us. Yesterday we knew that there were quite a few people who were unable to call ems because we had such a Communication Problem around the region with Cell Phone towers out. But overall we hopefully were in the Down Swing of the surge, but that Down Swing is still seeing Record Highs and our Hospitals Today 170 patients admitted with covid and 40 on the ventilator. Hospitals below us had many covid patients, too. As we see this movement of people, people not being able to access medical care like they would want to, what we worry is that this surge will see a Bump Up and trying to vaccinate through this and trying to seek those people out and get them to medical care so that they dont experience more harm because of it. Yeah, talk about all that because, first of all, its hard to vaccinate people when a state is rebuilding like it is and without electricity in a lot of places. But number two, maybe youre not as conscious about wearing a mask if youre worried about where youre going to get your next meal and when the lights are going to come on. Whats the biggest threat over the next few days . I think what well see is sort of a twohit threat. Our first is going to be that many people who are medically needy. People who are fragile, people who may be vaccinated but dont respond as well to vaccines and many who are unvaccinated or not completely vaccinated will seek share together in a medical shelter. Our state has done a great job when we experienced this last year of setting up medical shelters where we can test people when they come in, we have plenty of masks available. There is cool air so its more comfortable to take care of your self in the medical shelter. We need to get people there. Thats where they need to be for their oxygen need, medication needs. And other people crowding into families homes. Lots of movement through mississippi, tennessee, up through the northern part of louisiana as people escaped the storm. Who are they mingling with . Were mixing a lot of areas that still had a ton of covid19. Were really worried about that sort of Transmission Risk and how do people stay comfortable when obviously youre usually in your own home you take your mask down. Going through those areas offering vaccination, especially in North Louisiana where we have a lot of electricity and reaching people with the things that they need. Dr. Catherine oneil, listen, im glad your power is still on, youre still able to provide the services which are so important there. Thanks so much for being with us. Thank you. Have a great day. Just ahead, three Talk Radio hosts who railed against vaccines all sadly ended up meeting the same fate. Plus, there are blatant lies about President Biden that are being spread by rightwing personalities. Our Daniel Dale joins us next with a fact check. At usaa, weve been called too exclusive. Because we were created for officers. But as weve evolved with the military, weve grown to serve all whove honorably served. No matter their rank, or when they were in. A marine just out of basic, or a petty officer from 73. And even his kids. And their kids. Usaa is made for all whove honorably served and their families. 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Cupp. Given this new trend in what were seeing, is there any chance it could change minds . Because were hearing from phil Valentines Brother saying, if he could tell you now to get it, he would. Look, you hope so. I mean, these are anecdotal examples, but you hope they are jarring enough. I think this is a bigger problem, though, with rightwing media. You know, years ago i was asked to fill in for a rightwing Radio Host for a couple days. I did my job. I brought my strong opinions and passion and facts and was told after, by the station owner, that was great but you arent outraged enough. I think the industrial outrage thats taken over rightwing media is corrosive. Outrage is all that matters. All of these guys you mentioned really, you know, took their characters seriously and wore their characters not just on the air, but when they got home, to the point that they refused a lifesaving vaccine in the midst of a global pandemic. And, look, even Trump Wasnt that method. Trump got the vaccine eventually and is now getting booed at his own rallies for telling people to get it. But i think if youre a viewer or a listener and you are prone to these arguments, you are going to take these Radio Guys very seriously when really all theyre doing is acting a part. Its a tragedy for them and their families, it really is. Its an even bigger tragedy if people listened to them. Yes, and many do. And then it begs the question, okay, so if the deaths of these people, now all their families speaking out Cant Change minds, what can . I hear from scientists in the government, Government Scientists who say, its hard for us because we sometimes feel when we start speaking out on vac vaccines, it just backfires. Deaf ears. Its to look at the data hire. This isnt the three of us talking about this out of nowhere. The data is very clear, the largest group of americans who are unlikely to get the vaccine are white republicans. Within that group, one of the largest groups are republicans who watch rightwing news. This is not made up. This is a very real correlation, now cause and effect. And you have to ask, okay, these three Radio Hosts hopefully will do the job. But the deaths of millions of people worldwide, not just the thousands of americans, did not do that job. So you have to wonder if these people are reachable. You hope they are. But im not so sure. And we keep hearing from the white house, listen to your doctor, talk to your doctor about getting vaccinated. In reality a lot of people listen to this. They have more influence than an outside Care Doctor would. S. E. , stand by, if you will. We have an Audio Presentation wed like you to see. A couple of just lies spreading about President Biden in certain circles, Cnn Fact Checker Daniel Dale here to set the record straight. Two really weird little lies about president Joe Biden went viral among some conservatives on twitter. The first of these lies was the remains of the u. S. Troops in afghanistan was returned to the military Base And Nobody showed up to honor them. This claim was tweeted among congressional candidates, amplified by a Fox News Host among others. It was complete nonsense. These tweets were tweeted Saturday Night hours before the remains of the troops actually arrived at Dover Air force base. When they did land shortly after 8 00 a. M. On sunday, president Joe Biden, first lady jill biden, Secretary Of State, Secretary Of Defense and numerous other biden administration officials were there for the dignified transfer. The other lie was President Biden fell asleep during a white House Meeting last week with israeli Prime Minister naftali bennett. This shows the video did not happen. The Video Shows President Biden did drop his head and keep it there right after prime Minister Bennett made reference to that weeks difficult days, presumably a reference to what happened in afghanistan. But President Biden kept moving his hands the whole time. In other words, he was clearly awake. And one of the viral tweets Cut Out was President Biden responded immediately and appropriately right after prime Minister Bennett stopped talking. Take a watch. Thank you, mr. President. I look forward to working with you now and the many years forward. Thank you. Well, thank you. You give me credit, much of which should go to barack obama. Once again, this was a whole bunch of nonsense. John and kaitlan . There is lying and spreading misinformation, and then there is lying and spreading misinformation about fallen soldiers while their parents have just found out in the hours before that they have died in action. Yeah, its appalling. But its also, im sad to say, not surprising. There have been no consequence for lying, whether thats as a president , president trump, elected officials, members of the rightwing media. There are no consequence. There is, in fact, Safe Harbor for doing so, and lots of people who find Conspiracy Theories and lies to be more comforting than facts and the truth. So i mean, theres blame to go around, but if you are part of the media and im looking at you, Fox News and you are not Fact Checking, laura ingraham, you are not Fact Checking your anchors and hosts, you are the problem. They couldnt exist. Im sorry. How could they exist as a network if all of a sudden they started Fact Checking they started doing that, doing journalism. Im not saying there arent folks at fox doing good journalism. Fox has too long given comfort to liars and gaslighters and deniers. You brighten our day. Thanks for having me. Up next, how Russia And China are taking advantage of the u. S. Out of afghanistan. When can kids under 12 get a Covid19 Shot . That is what parents are asking and lawmakers are on a quest to get answers to. struggling Vehicle Sounds think Premium Cant be capable . 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Americas foreign adversaries like to amplify our divides. They do it via Social Media, Pushing Pollerization because they know it makes us weak. Its a game of divide and conquer. And many americans are unwitting accomplices. A few months ago we learned Qanon Conspiracy theories were being pumped up by Russia And China. Theyve done the same thing with antivaxx conspiracies during covid. Airing first here on cnn new day, shows how russian chinese Backed Media is Amplifying Afghanistan and republican riffs you might have heard recently. R. T. Twitters account shows an afghan Refugee Family with Military Grade Weapons on their Backs Photo shopped. It was posted the day after expresident trump asked how many tearrrorists bring to america. Showing a Wolfs Sheep in clothing showing putin with terrorists disguised as refugees. A Meme Asking whether they were trolling Bidens Love of ice cream, and another refrain, his diminished capacity for decision making. This russia along with the Trump Campaign in 2020, Disinformation Campaign confirmed in an abc News Report which was initially suppressed by trumps own department of homeland security. Proving misinformation preys on the gull i believe on both sides of the political spectrum. Red fish which is actually aligned with russia pushed tweets about Hugo Chavez to criticize americas alleged imperialism. Perhaps the tweet that underscores the overall effort came from r. T. Using a Pride Flag to criticize americas liberal influence on global culture, echoing some conservative complaints here in the united states. But r. T. Gave them game away with this tag. Western democracy can take a seat now. Thanks. Because thats what this is really all about. Running down liberal democracy as a governing global model. Coincidentally thats the what the chinese media focused on as well. The take over was a smoother transition of power than we saw in the united states after donald trumps Big Lie and the attack on the capitol. For the record, if you took part in that, chinese communists are laughing at you as a symbol of american weakness. They are saying the u. S. Abandoned allies and hypocrisy of refugees and the rights of women. Perhaps the most serious charge is Americas Withdrawal after 20 years means the u. S. Is not a dependable ally with china drawing quick line to the defense of taiwan. As in this Global Times Editorial Cartoon showing an American Eagle leading the president of taiwan into a gaping hole in the ground. This echos conservatives on taiwan in the wake of u. S. Withdrawal, a far be it more gentle. They found a post about america and afghanistan reached nearly 198 Million accounts between August 14th and the 25th. These are snapshots from the misInformation Wars, showing how americas divisions are being exploited by our adversaries even on issues of war and peace. They use Internet Humor and memes to push their agenda. Nothing is darkly funny and hypocritical as chinese president for Life Xi Jinping calling on all parties in afghanistan to build an open and exclusive political framework. Thats according to reuters. Bottom line, this report is a timely reminder that authoritarian nations are waging an endless Information War on liberal democracy. So dont buy into it with your Confirmation Bias clicks. And thats your Reality Check. John avalon as always, thank you for that. So notable given, of course, that has been a big question about what is the relationship going to be like with nato allies following this u. S. Exit, and how is it with President Biden going forward at summits talking about what this means for the u. S. s standing. 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Its a question on the minds of plenty of parents as kids return to Inperson Learning at school. When can children younger than 12 get their covid shot . It sounds like a simple question, but getting a straight answer has turned out to be fairly complicated for everyone, including members of congress, including democratic congresswoman Katy Porter of california. She is the mother of three schoolage children who is coleading a bipartisan effort to get more clarity from the fda. Congresswoman, thanks so much for being with us. Why is this so important to you . Parents have enough that theyre dealing with right now, with finding child care. Many women and parents of young children trying to return to work to make ends meet, they need clear information about what the procession is, what the Time Line is going to be because that makes a difference to how theyre thinking about return to school, child care, custody arrangements, vacation plans. Im a mom of three kids, so im used to a lot of he said, she said, its her fault, this is what really happened. But here we have the former Fda Commissioner saying it could be november, early winter. We have the n. I. H. Director saying, not before the beginning of the year, the very, very end of 2021. We have pfizer saying theyre going to submit data in september. And the result is parents are confused. So, youve asked the fda for a simple answer, which it sounds like you think should be forthcoming. What have they told you . Well, theyve provided a letter in response to the letter that we sent them from over 100 congress members, bipartisan letter. They provided a response. Its fairly short. Weve also asked for an inperson sorry, briefing from the fda so that we can best explain this to our constituents. For me, were not going to rush the science. We have to let the fda and let the Pharmaceutical Companies do their jobs and follow the process. But we can give people clear information about what those steps are and what the benchmarks are. Then our goal as congress members, of course, is to share that information with our constituents. Its one of the most common questions i get asked when im out and about. When is my child going to be able to get vaccinated is a question i ask every day i kiss my daughter and send her off to school. Youre not saying speed up the science. Youre telling the fda you want to be able to tell people a date or at least a rough date or why it will take until this date. Yes, absolutely. The process for kids is going to be a little bit different. Were dealing with different ages. Were talking about 5 to 11yearolds as being the likely first group. Then there is some question will it be 2yearolds, will it be sixmonth olds, parents can have the information, theyll understand the process, it will build trust and give parents the scientific Information And Foundation they need to absolutely get ready and be ready and take advantage of this vaccine when its delivered. So this is about knowing that the fda is working hard. Could they communicate that work to parents . Back to school nights, school registration, these were huge opportunities to communicate with groups of parents, some of whom are very hard to reach. And the fda missed that window to get information about the steps in the process. I think that was a loss and im going to work hard to try to get this information and get it out as soon as i can. Well, when you get it, give it to us, too. Thank you for that. Absolutely. I want to ask you about one of your colleagues, madison hawthorne, republican, seemed like he was threatening Blood Shed. He said, if our Election Systems continue to be rigged, which i will note theyre not, continue to be stolen, which ill note they werent, thats going to lead to one place, thats Blood Shed. And defending our liberty at all cost, theres nothing more i would dread than picking up arms against a fellow american. How do you read that and to what extent do you as one of his colleagues feel threatened . I think the issue is this is a huge threat to our entire democracy. Other members of congress, not just to the institution of congress, but hes literally talking about violence against each other. He is talking about a precondition of civil unrest or even civil war. And most importantly, as you pointed out, hes repeating lies. And i think the fundamental duty that my constituents have put to me, republican, democrat, independent, young and old, white, brown and black is that they can trust me to be truthful with them. 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