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President biden will address the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/country-'>Country this afternoon about the end of americas longest war. This photo shows the last american Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/service-member'>Service Member to leave afghanistan. In all, 123,000 people were taken out of the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/country-'>Country. 123,000 in about two and a half weeks. An unprecedented evacuation mission. He said the u. S. Would stay to get them out. The u. S. Did not stay. There are thousands of afghan allies in the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/country-'>Country still as well. This morning, the taliban is celebrating the u. S. Withdrawal. We have this new video which shows taliban fighters exploring a hangar. Some Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/military-equipment'>Military Equipment was removed from afghanistan. Other items disabled. In the meantime, more than Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/a-billion'>A Billion homes and businesses in the southeast, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/a-million'>A Million homes and businesses in the southeast are without power this morning after Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/hurricane-ida'>Hurricane Ida, and that could last for weeks. On top of the catastrophic damage, severe flooding and the lack of electricity comes with scorching heat. Temperatures in Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/louisiana-and-mississippi'>Louisiana And Mississippi could hit 103 degrees today. At least two deaths have been reported. The Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/louisiana-national-guard'>Louisiana National Guard rescued nearly 350 people on monday who were trapped by flood waters. But we begin with the end of the 20year Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/war-in-afghanistan'>War In Afghanistan. Cnns Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/clarissa-ward'>Clarissa Ward joins us now. The president is expected to address the nation later this afternoon about what is the situation on the ground in kabul, and defend his decision not to extend that deadline past august 31st. What do we know, and what are you hearing . Reporter first let me explain where im at. Im here on the pakistani border with afghanistan, and you can see behind me if that Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/truck-isnt'>Truck Isnt in the way, the white flag of the taliban. That is the flag flying here at this border crossing. There are taliban fighters just a few yards away from me and as many people are now trying to leave afghanistan, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/border-crossings'>Border Crossings like this are starting to clog up. What were seeing at this one, though, is that the pakistanis are saying you cannot come in. We cannot cope with the flow of more refugees. According to the u. N. , some 1. 4 million afghan refugees already live here in pakistan. And so this border is basically closed to afghans. That hasnt stopped them lining up. Theres a large group of them. Some of them very sick. Theyre desperately hoping for medical attention. The pakistanis have been providing some dispensation on that front. Really, this is just a window into what afghanistans new future is, with the u. S. Evacuation complete, and a lot of insecurity on the ground in terms of stability, in terms of violence, in terms of the economic situation, many people are now on the move, and theyre looking for different ways to try to get out of the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/country-'>Country as they fear that it will no longer be possible tHrough the kabul airport. So clarissa, first of all, im very curious about what youre hearing the situation is or the feeling is inside afghanistan, particularly the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/capital-city'>Capital City of kabul. Look, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/the-sun'>The Sun has risen Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/on-afghanistan'>On Afghanistan for the first time in 20 years with no u. S. Troops in Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/country-'>Country but im also curious about what you just said about the border there, because if the u. S. Is gone and if the flights have stopped out of the kabul airport, which they have, the overground Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/border-crossings'>Border Crossings are the only way for people to get out. If pakistan is not letting people across, that effectively means theres no way out. Thats what the u. N. Is really concerned about. You have Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/3-1-2-million'>3 1 2 Million people by their estimate who have been displaced from their homes inside afghanistan due to the violence, and if we now see a real deterioration in the economic situation as many people fear, i mean, in kabul today, long lines and very tense scenes outside of almost every bank because afghans are running to the bank, and theyre trying to take all of their money out. They dont feel secure about this situation. They want to make sure that they have all of their finances in order, and that they can start looking into, if they need to, moving. Again, as you said, a lot of people now choosing to move via Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/land-borders'>Land Borders to uzbekistan, to pakistan, to iran, but many of these neighboring countries are just saying hold on a second, we cant cope with this, and thats why there are so many companies that now have a vested interest in trying to make the situation inside afghanistan work. And you asked about what the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/vibe-s'>Vibe S what the mood is in kabul. We have been speaking to people there, the day started with jubilation, there was celebratory gunfire late into the night, but now the hard work begins, even for the taliban, now the real graft starts which learning how to govern a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/country-'>Country. Which by the way, even 20 years ago, they never had a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/firm-grip'>Firm Grip on how to do that. And how to secure the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/country-'>Country. Its difficult because isisk fighters have essentially melted into the taliban, making it almost impossible for the taliban to distinguish between who is isis and who is the taliban. So make no mistake, john, they have a lot of hard work to do, and there are plenty of people among them, according to the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/state-department'>State Department, one to 200 americans, and countless other afghans who are fearful for their lives and worrying about what this new era will bring with it. John, kaitlan. And yesterday we heard from general Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/frank-mckenzie'>Frank Mckenzie who runs Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/central-command'>Central Command. He was talking about the difficulty facing the taliban, including how they led thousands of isisk prisoners out of those prisons when they were going around and taking over parts of afghanistan. We did hear from pakistans Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/foreign-minister'>Foreign Minister earlier, he says he does think the taliban is going to announce the formation of a government in the coming days now that the withdrawal from the u. S. Has happened. What do you think thats going to look like. Is there any chance theyre cohesive enough to form that government, and what is that going to look like . Reporter so its a really good question, kaitlan. There is a huge amount of pressure on the taliban right now to form a transitional government that is inclusive and that is full tech knocrats, whi is full of people who know what it means and what it takes to run a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/country-'>Country, and i have spoken to officials in pakistan who privately concede that theyre concerned about this, that they want this to be an absolute priority for the taliban because the taliban does not know how to run a modern education system. The taliban does not know how to run hydro dams, these are the things that require people with experience and expertise. The one thing that people are hopeful about is that because the taliban is at least putting on a more pragmatic show these days, and because they want to be accepted by the international community, and because they want access to desperately needed financial aid, theyre hopeful that they are going to take a more conciliatory approach to governing and to ruling, and that they will be more open to Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/power-sharing'>Power Sharing and to having a more inclusive government, but the proof will be in the pudding. Its supposed to be announced in the coming days. Lets see what they come up with. Right now the world is watching, although only really watching because there isnt much the rest of the world can actually do directly, and i know that theres some Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/40-million'>40 Million people inside afghanistan are watching and waiting as well. Clarissa, its amazing to have you there. Were going to come back to you because what happens at that border is crucial to afghanistan in the next few days, and also crucial to the some hundred to 200 americans who are still trapped in the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/country-'>Country. Kaitlan, normally we have to go to you because youre on the lawn at the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/white-house'>White House. This time i just have to look to my left. President biden speaking this afternoon. What is it, this is the third or fourth time we have heard him in two weeks with a direct address about afghanistan. What is the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/white-house'>White House addressing with this. Defending the big picture, the withdrawal from afghanistan, this is what they think americans wanted to see, and there is polling that does reflect that. I think the questions that face them now is how of course this was executed and how this went down and the fact that there are still americans left in afghanistan who according to the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/state-department'>State Department want to love, and one thing that i was thinking about yesterday when we were thinking about the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/secretary-of-state'>Secretary Of State speaking, listening to the head of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/central-command'>Central Command speaking is a promise that Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/president-biden'>President Biden had made, in his own words, one that he decided to make back a few weeks ago when he did an interview with Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/abc-news'>Abc News . Were going to do everything in our power to get all americans out and our allies out. The commitment holds to get everyone out that, in fact, we can get out and everyone that should come out, and thats objective. Thats what were doing now, thats the path were on. If theres american citizens left, were going to stay until we get them all out. People push back saying the u. S. Government warned people time and time again since april to leave afghanistan. There are people who want to leave. I think Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/thats-something'>Thats Something the president wants to discuss in his remarks. Thats pretty unambiguous, if there are american citizens who want to get out, the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/united-states'>United States will not leave. The u. S. Is gone, and there are still american citizens who want to get out. Every single u. S. Troop member has left afghanistan now as of that deadline, as of one minute before that deadline hit in kabul, which is notable in and of itself. Also questions about not extending the deadline. He is expected to defend the decision. Is there unanimity in the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/white-house'>White House about the president s Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/message-something'>Message Something one of the things im struck by is hes not movable on the policy or how he addresses the policy. He hasnt modulated. Some people may say its better, he made a promise, hes sticking to it. Others say he has to adapt to the situation there. Is there unanimity about this . I think they back his decision. I think the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/white-house'>White House realizes this isnt been a well executed or perfectly handled exit from afghanistan. They have seen the issues. They were very shaken after those 13 u. S. Service members were killed and it was a very somber day in the west bing. I do think they stand by of course the original point but there are obviously questions about how it went down. I have to look over here to get some answers. Up next, were going to talk about Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/a-million'>A Million homes and businesses are now without power in louisiana, and the big issue is that it could stay that way for weeks after Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/hurricane-ida'>Hurricane Ida tore tHrough the state bringing catastrophic damage and flooding. There you see those homes, those businesses, just water all over the place, of course and in a place that no one wanted to see that again in Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/new-orleans'>New Orleans. Cnns Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/nadia-romero'>Nadia Romero is live in Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/new-orleans'>New Orleans with more. What are you seeing now that we can see the damage and assess this, and what are officials telling you about what they expect the next few days to look like. Reporter good morning, kaitlan, and we have to wait for daylight to look around and see whats around us because were still without power, and that power has been out for day two, potentially day tHree for some people here in Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/new-orleans'>New Orleans. We have about 25,000 workers from Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/power-companies'>Power Companies all over the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/country-'>Country. 32 states and d. C. Who are here right now. They have a big task at hand, restoring power for Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/32-million'>32 Million people. Perhaps, kaitlan, the worst of it is in laplace, louisiana, where 350 people had to be rescued from rising flood waters. Across louisiana, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/destruction-and-devastation'>Destruction And Devastation in the wake of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/hurricane-ida'>Hurricane Ida, but its still far too dangerous for many to assess just how much damage is done here. More than Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/a-million'>A Million louisianans are still in the dark. We have no electricity. We have very little to no telecommunications. We have low water pressure, so we dont have clean drinking water. Were surviving now but its going to be a rough time. We dont want our citizens to come back. Reporter the entire city of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/new-orleans'>New Orleans is also without power. The mayor urging residents who evacuated to stay away until its safe to return. Where we have sources of power, its generators only, and so it does speak to the need for fuel. Reporter people waiting in lines for hours at some Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/gas-stations'>Gas Stations looking to fill the tanks of their generators, and cars. The deadly category 4 Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/storm-slamming'>Storm Slamming into Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/louisiana-midday'>Louisiana Midday sunday with roaring winds up to 150 miles per hour and heavy flooding leaving many neighborhoods under water. Debris filling the streets and falling trees destroying many homes and businesses. We saw the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/tree-swaying'>Tree Swaying back and forth, and then about five minutes later, the whole thing snapped and fell over there on the house. Reporter this Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/coast-guard-video'>Coast Guard Video shows the damage in grand isle, louisiana, from above, and in laplace, louisiana, boats are the only way to navigate some of its water filled roads. We have been tHrough all the storms and they expected it to come and be bad. We didnt expect it get this close to laplace. It wasnt supposed to be that close. Im not going to take that chance again. Reporter urgent Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/search-and-rescue'>Search And Rescue efforts are underway. I dont want to mislead anyone. Robust Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/search-and-rescue'>Search And Rescue is happening right now and i fully expect the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/death-count'>Death Count to go up during the day. Reporter governors activating 5,300 national guard troops to help. We worked hard across southeast louisiana, we rescued 348 people. 48 pets, and we were able to get those folks to safety. Reporter president Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/joe-biden'>Joe Biden pledging to help louisiana and other states severely impacted by the hurricane. Were going to stand with you and the people of the gulf as long as it takes for you to recover. Reporter so once the storm ends, the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/danger-isnt'>Danger Isnt over. In mississippi, a highway was washed away by flood waters. Two people died and about a dozen others were injured, and in louisiana, we have learned of a man who was killed piby an alligator when he was walking tHrough flood waters. Think of this, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/32-million'>32 Million people in the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/gulf-coast'>Gulf Coast under a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/heat-advisory'>Heat Advisory and its so dangerous because its so hot here in the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/gulf-coast'>Gulf Coast. Theres no ac. People are operating with no hot water and that could continue for weeks. Kaitlan. Thats probably the reason youre seeing officials like the mayor of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/new-orleans'>New Orleans saying if you evacuated do not come home yet. We are not ready to welcome people coming back. Nadia, as Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/the-sun'>The Sun comes up, let us know what youre seeing and what officials on the ground are saying. Thank you for your reporting. Next, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/hundreds-of-university'>Hundreds Of University students and staff remain trapped in afghanistan this morning. Well talk with the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/schools-president'>Schools President about the desperate effort to get them out. Plus, bringing in portable morgues as the governor punishes Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/school-districts'>School Districts for defying his ban on Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/mask-mandates'>Mask Mandates. New day brought to you by kisqali. In premenopausal women with Hr , her2 metastatic breast cancer. 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According to The New York Times, the group from the university tried to get out on Sunday On Buses to the kabul airport, but after hours of waiting for clearance, they were notified that the Airport Gates were a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/security-tHreat'>Security THreat, and their evacuations were called off. Joining me now is the president of the American University Of Afghanistan, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/ian-bickford'>Ian Bickford who we should note was able to get out of afghanistan days before that. Thank you so much for being with us. Tell us what happened on sunday when students and faculty tried to get out . Good morning, and thank you. Well, first, i should say sunday was the last day of a twoweek long effort to help our students relocate from afghanistan to safe sites where they can continue their learning without fear. Sunday was, we thought, our best hope. We organized a convoy of more than a dozen buses. Something like 500 students, close to 600 students, family, staff, faculty boarded those buses with the sincere hope that they would be given permission to enter the airport, board flights, and begin their journey to a better life. In the course of the day, it became clear that not only would the Airport Gates not close, we should not receive permission to enter the airport but the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/security-tHreat'>Security THreat increased dramatically and it was the best thing for us to ask our students to return home and stay safe. How many . What are the numbers youre talking about this morning in terms of people who want to leave, and can you explain exactly why they want to get out . Thank you for that. We have been attempting to move 1,200 students, faculty, staff out of afghanistan. The numbers of our total community are much greater. Many of them also would like to leave afghanistan, and the reason is clear. The American University Of Afghanistan represents the brightest light of the american engagement in the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/country-'>Country. We were the target of a brutal, deadly attack in 2016. The future of our students, our faculty in the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/country-'>Country, our staff in the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/country-'>Country remains unclear. We done know the level of persecution, but its very important that theyre able to continue their studies so that they can bring their ambition, their optimism and their hope for afghanistan back home, perhaps in the distant future, but still theyre very hopeful that their Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/country-'>Country will resume some level of free and fair civil society. There was some confusion based on some new york times reporting about whether or not the taliban was given a list of some kind of a roster of famous of students or faculty or people associated with the university. What do you know for sure about this . Look, i know very little for sure about how the entry into the airport worked. Nobody outside really does. Its very simple confusion. No fault. The fact is our buses never even approached the point of the taliban Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/check-point'>Check Point and so theres no reason to believe that any list of names, Passport Numbers or other identifying information was passed to the taliban. However, you know, i am aware of speculation about how this might work. It simply wasnt the case for us. Any direct tHreats to your students who are still there . Yes, absolutely. Many Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/report-anything'>Report Anything from harassing behavior, entering homes by the taliban, asking whos there, what they do, including whether theyre students at the American University Of Afghanistan. Some have received calls from people adopting fraudulent identities, claiming to be representatives of the university asking for identifying information. And others have received direct tHreats to life and safety. I got to let you go here, but any promises of assistance from the u. S. Government at this point . Well, were working on it. Were hopeful, and we believe that if the u. S. Government recognizes that the American University Of Afghanistan is the legacy of the american engagement there, they will do the right thing and help us to continue to get our students to safety. Thank you. Ian bickford, president of the american university in afghanistan, thanks for being with us this morning. Thank you very much. Florida governor Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/ron-desantis'>Ron Desantis, punishing schools in florida that have required students to wear masks. Even as portable morgues are brought in to handle the overflow of coronavirus deaths. 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The Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/states-department'>States Department of education is now withholding funds from some counties where wearing a mask is mandatory, which is in defiance of republican governor Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/ron-desantis'>Ron Desantiss ban. This comes as 14 portable morgues have been brought in to help the state with a quote unprecedented number of covid19 deaths. Leyla santiago is live in miami. We know that florida is seeing some of the highest case rates in the nation right now. Some of the highest numbers that we have seen, of course, even before vaccinations were widespread in the u. S. What are you hearing from officials on the ground, about their level of concern right now . Reporter listen, kaitlan, where we are right now, jackson memorial, one of the larger Health Systems in south florida, they have refrigerated Freight Trucks On Stand By as a way to prepare for possible over capacity at morgues, so that really paints the picture as to what theyre dealing with inside these hospital walls, and it is that concern of hospitalizations and deaths that is driving a lot of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/school-districts'>School Districts, a dozen now to move forward with these mandatory Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/mask-mandates'>Mask Mandates as the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/school-year'>School Year begins here in florida. And that said, youre still hearing from the Department Of Education that announced yesterday they are moving forward with holding the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/salary-amount'>Salary Amount for Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/school-board'>School Board members that are moving forward with these Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/mask-mandates'>Mask Mandates that dont allow for any kind of parental opt out, something that goes against the governors orders. I want you to listen to part of the statement that we received from Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/education-commissioner-richa'>Education Commissioner Richa richard cocHran, simply said, elected officials cannot pick and choose what laws they want to follow. And thats what he said yesterday. This comes after last week we reported that a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/florida-judge'>Florida Judge ruled that that ban on Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/mask-mandates'>Mask Mandates will not stay. Essentially saying that the governor does not have the authority to implement such a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/blanket-mandate'>Blanket Mandate on Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/the-school'>The School saying that they cant have these Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/mask-mandates'>Mask Mandates even though theyre moving forward with them. And i got to tell you, kaitlan, we have been watching these Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/school-board'>School Board meetings and they are becoming very tense, very contentious, im hearing from Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/school-board'>School Board members that are receiving tHreats. They are having heightened security at these board meetings, and much of it is showing that divide. The political divide that some see as political, others see as something very personal and a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/health-crisis'>Health Crisis that is really escalating to a different level. I mean, heightened Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/security-tHreat'>Security THreats, fights, having to be broken out in some cases. Really showing how divided parents are on this issue of masks. Yeah, and its sad to see political leaders using this, of course, and its just dividing communities, something you never thought you would see at a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/school-board'>School Board meeting. Parents shoving one another, yelling at one another about these new rules that people believe are just trying to keep their children safe. Layla, thank you for joining us this morning, and keeping us updated on all of that. We will stay in touch with you on whats happening in florida. How are these controversial decisions from republican governor Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/ron-desantis'>Ron Desantis, how are they affecting his Poll Numbers . For that, we go to one man for the answer. Cnn data reporter, harry enten. His numbers have sagged a little bit, but not so far. Yeah, i mean, these numbers are really not that bad in a state like florida. Look at this, his Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/job-approval'>Job Approval, 47 , not exactly great, but last year during election time, look at that, that same 47 . How about the ballot test, should he be reelected in 2022. 48 say yes. That beats the 45 who say no. These are not bad Polling Numbers for the governor of florida. And whats truly interesting is when you ask florida voters about desantis and what he has done on covid, theyre not happy. No, theyre not. I mean, look at this, requirements in florida schools, should everyone wear a mask. 60 of florida voters support this. Should teachers get vaccinated. 60 of florida voters support this. You see one thing on covid, the florida voters may not like Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/ron-desantis'>Ron Desantis, but in his overall numbers, hes holding steady. The Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/covid-situation'>Covid Situation and Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/ron-desantis'>Ron Desantis might be decoupled and not correlated. Thats exactly right. Look back at last Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/years-election-cycle'>Years Election Cycle and, look how trump did in 2020 versus 2016, in the top 25 counties with the most covid deaths, trump actually gained. He gained. Where he lost was in the counties with the fewest covid deaths, and thats how Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/joe-biden'>Joe Biden when he won in the suburban areas, what we generally see is yeah, you want to make this direct correlation, but were not seeing covid deaths in a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/county-or-state'>County Or State are not necessarily correlated with how a republican Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/candidate-or-incumbent'>Candidate Or Incumbent does. How is Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/ron-desantis'>Ron Desantis doing in florida. The Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/job-approval'>Job Approval rating, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/ron-desantis'>Ron Desantis, 47 , not great, but not bad. President Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/joe-biden'>Joe Biden, down at 40 . Ron desantis is benefitting from the comparison. And bidens numbers are going down in florida. Down in florida, and nationally as well. This is nationally over the last few months, 54 back in june. 54 in may, july, 52, august, 51, and right now just 47 of voters nationally approve of the job Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/joe-biden'>Joe Biden is doing. Afghanistan which is so much in the news now, theres a tendency to say there might be trouble in afghanistan, that might be driving the numbers. Broadly speaking, americans like the overall policy, and i will note, i mean, theyre waking up today to a different world. The first time in the last 20 years there havent been u. S. Troops there. I think we got how voters feel about Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/joe-biden'>Joe Biden Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/on-afghanistan'>On Afghanistan, versus how they feel about troop withdrawal. Look at this, just 35 approve of that. Approve of the idea of withdrawing the troops, 63 . They may not like the way hes doing his job in afghanistan, but they like what hes doing, and well see obviously in the weeks and months to come, whether or not this number starts looking more like this number as we sort of look back in the rear view mirror. Its interesting, why Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/joe-biden'>Joe Biden and the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/white-house'>White House lean into this issue, reminding people that what happened here is the decision to withdraw all the u. S. Troops, and now theyre gone. Thats what he wants to talk about and the american people seem to at least like that part of it. Thats exactly right. 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Forces have now left afghanistan leaving it under the control of the taliban, hospitals are struggling to cope under the strain of the pandemic caused by those who are not vaccinated and the southeast is dealing with the after math of a record breaking hurricane. Joining us now is cnn political analyst, and Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/washington-correspondent'>Washington Correspondent for The New York Times maggie haberman. On afghanistan and what we are seeing, i think we should just step back and look at this moment and what it means for the u. S. Given they spent 20 years there, spent trillions of dollars, obviously and unfortunately lost thousands of lives of soldiers and people on the ground. And now here it is, they have left and the taliban is back in control, more powerful than they were 20 years ago. What does this mean, how do you think americans are taking all of this . I think we dont know, honestly. I think americans over time have become so disinterested, angry, upset. There were some who in the first year were feeling that way. The motions aftemotions after Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/s-11th'>S 11th were so raw, and the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/country-'>Country was united in a way it has not been in a long time, people were willing to go along with what the mission was then. It evolved into something very different. On the one hand, there are people who, you know, are very happy that the u. S. Is gone, that is, i think, the majority that you will see in polls. On the other, theres a concern about the vacuum this creates in terms of potential terrorism, and terrorist tHreats, accumulating either both overseas and within the u. S. I think we just dont know what it means. In the shortterm it means that biden did do something he said he was going to do. He did something he said for years he believed should be done, and to the extent that his predecessor, former Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/president-trump'>President Trump kicked the can down the road and left it for biden, he did deal with that. Its been a messy few weeks. I think we have to see what happens with americans that remain there, with other afghans who have been relocated or who want to relocate. Well see. There are no u. S. Troops in afghanistan this morning. Its stunning, and this is the first time we can say that in 20 years. Thats a long time. It is a really long time, so i think to an extent, what you said at the beginning, its hard to know what this means. I mean, you can hardly remember a time when there werent u. S. Troops in afghanistan. Did the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/united-states'>United States win or lose afghanistan . I mean, in a way, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/ech-tven'>Ech Tven that loaded question. It is, it argues what was the goal to begin with. People have a hard time articulating that. Its hard to see what the wins were. The wins were in the longterm keeping at bay terrorism, trying to keep at bay tHreats to the u. S. , but in terms of what the u. S. Actually gained longterm, its not clear what that is. I think we should know just in terms of the vacuum there, and i dont mean to keep going back to the former president , but some of what we have seen of the amassing in terror tHreats in the region has happened because of moves that the former president made because of Troop Withdrawals around the rengion. How much the general public that is so tired and beaten down by covid, by the resurgent pandemic, how much theyre concerned about what happens overseas, i dont know we know that. You brought up the former president , who wanted to withdraw all u. S. Troops from afghanistan and couldnt or didnt on his own. He chose not to. He chose not to. He said he was going to, and he didnt. He is now criticizing Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/joe-biden'>Joe Biden for following tHrough on what Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/president-trump'>President Trump promised he would do. Hes also saying what he would do now, i think hes saying he would reinvade. All equipment should be demanded to return to the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/united-states'>United States. Every penny of the 85 billion. If its not handed back, we should go in with Military Force and get it or bomb the hell out of it, go in and get it, and again, this is not just a guy with a laptop in maralago, this is a guy as of this morning is the front runner for the republican nomination, could be the next president. Is he promising to reinvade . I dont think hes promising anything. Two things, the temptation is to dismiss and say we shouldnt Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/pay-attention'>Pay Attention to Donald Trump. Theres certainly a school of political thought who argues that. He is the front runner for the nomination. A lot of aides believe hes going to run again. Not all of them, but i dont think it makes things go away if you dont Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/pay-attention'>Pay Attention to them in that respect, number one. But number two, he is issuing this vague Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/policy-statement'>Policy Statement that frankly he issued as a candidate and president. And he manages to come down on both sides of the issue. This was done poorly, the withdrawal should have been done better, and im going to go back in and bomb the hell out of them, used other expletives over time. I dont see this as prescriptive, i would do the opposite of what Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/joe-biden'>Joe Biden did, even if i cant articulate what this is. The way he has been talking about how this has been executed and whats going forward, theres questions about how he would have handled this, with the refugees, and the special immigrant visa applicants, and a former adviser to pence saying they whittled that program down. The biden administration said that played a role in why they were so slow to do it. I want to ask you, the House Select Committee that is investigating Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/january-6th'>January 6th and what happened has asked Telecommunications Companies to preserve their records of republican allies of the president s who were on Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/capitol-hill'>Capitol Hill that day, and former Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/president-trump'>President Trump himself. What signal does this give you about the direction they are headed. Do you think this is going to be fru fruitful in any way of the conversations that he was having, you know, while holed up in the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/oval-office'>Oval Office that day with lawmakers who are on Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/capitol-hill'>Capitol Hill, witnessing this. I think the former president doesnt text, so i mean, he gets texts and reads them. He doesnt really send them. The concern is there are going to be texts among lawmakers or his own aides talking about what he himself said or was doing in that moment. That is the concern there. What i think the committee is doing more broadly is trying to figure out whether there was at minimum a delay in trying to, you know, deal with the tHreat of what was happening at the capitol, and also whether there was something more coordinated and organized and there has been this question as we have seen all along, a reuters report a couple of weeks ago or days ago, they all meld together, suggesting that the fbi had not come up with evidence that there was some concerted attack. I think thats where theyre going with this. I want to read your book in a few months to read about conversations that members of congress have had repeatedly with the former president. Madison cawthorn, i dont know that he was talking to Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/president-trump'>President Trump then, but Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/madison-cawthorn'>Madison Cawthorn has said some pretty crazy stuff, including when he was with supporters in north carolina, he basically, i dont know if he tHreatened bloodshed, he said, if our Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/election-system'>Election System continues to be rigged, which its not, continues to be stolen, which it wasnt, ten its going to lead to one place, and thats bloodshed, he said, and i will tell you, as much as im willing to defend our liberty at no cost, theres nothing i would dread doing more than having to pick up arms against a fellow american. Theres a perfect distillation of the political discourse that Donald Trump injected into the broader conversation and the broader discussion among americans, which is im going to put something out there. Im not saying that im doing this. Other people might do this, and i just, i really hope that doesnt happen. Thats what cawthorn is doing. It is not responsible language. It is not responsible for a member of congress. It is not responsible for a president to say things like this. He is not explicitly saying, yes, i will do this, but he walks pretty close to the line. Startling to hear that from a sitting member of congress. Yes, this is the new type of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/conversation-and-discussion'>Conversation And Discussion and acceptable commentary in certain quarters in our politics. And youre very right that its very much in Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/trump-fashion'>Trump Fashion of saying if this happened, even though the first part of that statement is wrong, the election was not stolen, wasnt rigged. Right. He is positing something out there based on something that isnt true, and saying i cant help it if people behave this way. I sure hope it doesnt happen. 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Less than 24 hours since the last u. S. Military plane left afghanistan, there are still big questions about what will happen to those afghan translators who worked with american troops in the last two decades but were unable to make it to the airport to escape. Joining me now is spencer sullivan, a u. S. Army veteran who served in afghanistan and spencers former afghan translator who fled the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/country-'>Country in 2017 amid death tHreats from the taliban. Obviously both of you have a lot of experience with what so many people have questions about right now. Spencer, i want to start with you on what this means now that two decades of the u. S. Involvement in afghanistan is over, not a single u. S. Troop is still on the ground, according to the pentagon. What does this feel like for you, and what were your Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/thoughts-yesterday'>Thoughts Yesterday as you watched this . Thank you for having me, kaitlan. Im feeling what a lot of veterans are feeling in the moment, which is simply grief and mourning. We have been watching over the course of the summer the taliban make gains across the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/country-'>Country. Everyone in the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/veteran-community'>Veteran Community thought about the people they had left behind there. You know, for many people, the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/war-in-afghanistan'>War In Afghanistan was a far flung geopolitical strategic Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/level-event'>Level Event but for those of us who were there, it was intensely personal. The reason were speaking this morning is because of one of those relationships i had, my friend with ablohach, what im feeling is sadness for the people we left behind. Thats been a big question for those who did not make it on flights for the u. S. Or allies out of there. Have you heard from anyone whos on the ground that is still there, and what are the questions that remain about that . I have heard from a few. The messages dont stop. The Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/war-isnt'>War Isnt over. Im getting messages of the brother of my former translator who was murder instead 2017, hes begging me to save him and help his life, and theres nothing i can do for him. The taliban are going Door To door in the major cities, looking for evidence of people who worked for nato, u. S. Forces or the former democratically elected afghan government, and carrying out executions across the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/country-'>Country. Beyond that, theyre killing Family Members of people who worked for nato or u. S. Forces. Theres a tremendous amount of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/fear-and-uncertainty'>Fear And Uncertainty amongst the population right now. And you were a translator for the u. S. In afghanistan for two years. If you talk to any veteran as spencer was saying, its a critically important role for the u. S. While they were there, and so what has it been like for you watching this evacuation and seeing the desperation of people who wanted to leave and a lot of them who could not . Thank you very much to invite me. Yeah, i couldnt believe that when i watch coalition forces, especially u. S. Forces leave afghanistan. Because im thinking right now about my family, about my parents, about my sister, about my brothers. They have no chance right now if we dont pull out from afghanistan. They are hiding right now because of taliban, as spencer told right now, taliban are killing people who work for nato or the u. S. Government forces and also they are killing members of families. Right now they are going Door To door, every city. Im so so sad right now. Im upset about this situation right now, whats happening in afghanistan. For u. S. Government, for nato. We need right now help from the government, u. S. Government. Our family, now my family think about their self in afghanistan. They lost everything. I dont want to lose my family, like my colleague and his mother also. And i dont want to. Seriously, right now, we need help from u. S. Government to pull out our people, those people, they really provide faithful service for u. S. Government, u. S. Forces. Yeah, and we should note, secretary of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/state-blinken'>State Blinken has said that the deadline doesnt mean they are going to continue those evacuations. It got harder with the u. S. Military presence gone. This is very emotional for both of you. Thank you very much for joining us to talk about it. Thank you very much. Youre welcome. Our pleasure. There are new details about Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/president-biden'>President Bidens tough meeting with the families of those 13 u. S. 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