Suicide bomb was detonated yesterday. He wanted to be a History Teacher and a Wrestling Coach when he returned to civilian life. He had a Baby Due in just three weeks. Three weeks. She said he will be remembered by his family and friends and those who loved him and there are many who loved him and knew him. He will be remembered for the way he made those around him stronger and kinder and able to love deeply. Rylee mccollum from wyoming. There are 12 other names, 12 other heroes whose names are sadly yet to come. We still believe there are credible threats. In fact, id say specific credible threats, and we want to make sure were prepared for those. Specific credible threats, Thats Pentagon Spokesman John Kirby preparing the public for possible new Suicide Attacks like yesterdays or other forms of attacks by isisk fighters. It was a Suicide Bombing that killed 13 american Service Members and at least 170 afghans outside kabul airport. Today in Kabul Family members collected the remains of loved ones, many of whom died trying to get out of a country they in longer felt safe. Tonight an interview with an Isisk Commander that she did before she and her crew were evacuated. With thinner crowds outside, the Air Lift went on. 12,500 people got out. That includes 300 americans with more still waiting to leave. There are approximately 500 american citizens we are currently working with who wanted to leave and who are communicating directly to facilitate their evacuation. Thats the update from the state department. They may have more details given they have been overseeing the constant contact which we went and did another round of contacts over the course of yesterday. She was also asked about the president s vowed retribution against yesterdays killers. When the president says we will hunt you down and make you pay, what does that look like . Is he going to order a mission to kill the people responsible or would he be satisfied if they are brought to trial . I think he made clear yesterday he does not want them to live on the earth anymore. Ordinarily such threats are conveyed using phrases such as brought to justice and are rarely stated so plainly. Then there are the quieter words of condolence. Planning is underway for calls to the 13 Service Members. Rylee Mccollums Family Member will be among them. They will come once all Next Of Kin notifications have taken place. There is a lot to get to tonight. We have a number of reporting at the pentagon. Alex, the pentagon bracing for a likely ly second attack. What do you know about Security Measures . The pentagon said they are monitoring these real threats in realtime. Obviously the focus is around the airport. One of the things they had already been doing in the lead up to the attack yesterday, as we knew this Threat Stream was coming in was to secure the perimeter, make it much stronger. That obviously is continuing. But, anderson, one of the major things they are doing is coordinating with the pal dan. The taliban is obviously the most powerful force there on the ground outside the airport. The u. S. Has asked the taliban to extend the perimeter farther away from the airport. They have asked them to shut down some of the roads to prevent things like theyre called ieds, so Vehicle Born Ieds from getting closer to the airport to prevent those Suicide Bombers from getting closer to the airport. We know there has been some level of Information Sharing between the u. S. And the taliban about potential threats. Of course, this level of coordination is absolutely extraordinary, relying on an enemy for this kind of security. And of course coming at the most dangerous time in this operation. We know that people first go through a level of taliban screening but then they are screened by the americans. And the pentagon said very clearly that this is an intimate experience, if you will. They are right up close to these people with their breath, feeling their breath. Thats as close as they have to get. So the danger is still very real for these u. S. Troops. We also heard Jen Psaki say that President Biden, quote, doesnt want them to live on earth anymore. I mean, is there an actual hunt to find them at this stage, do we know . I m the president named the group. He said that we will find you. We will hunt you down. We will not forgive. We will not forget. He did suggest anderson that they do have information about who may be responsible, specifically, but there is no doubt that this is a major test of what the Military Calls over the horizon capability, a test of whether and how the u. S. Will be able to carry out strikes against terrorists when the u. S. Forces are no longer there. The pentagon will tell you now they are fully able to and plan to keep carrying out strikes against terrorists that for now, at least they do have thousands of troops on the ground. They have drones in the region and other forces in the region, but of course the capabilities have been diminished with these troops pulling out, with intelligence assets and officials pulling out. So this is going to be a major test while the u. S. Is still technically in the country. This targeting of those isisk fighters in response to that Suicide Bombing yesterday and the White House is certainly feeling the political pressure to go after this group in response to this horrible killing of 13 u. S. Service members yesterday. And what do we know about how the Security Situation is affecting the operation . Those evacuations are still ongoing. We know that over the course of 12 hours today, Thats Kind of how they look at it in these increments of 12 and 24 hours. There were evacuations of 4,200 people. That is down from the peak of around 20,000 people over 24 hours, but it is still well within the range that the pentagon was aiming for around 5,000 to 9,000 every 24 hours. So the evacuations still are happening. In fact, the numbers are substantial and impressive. So far we understand that 109,200 people have been pulled out in less than two weeks. So this is a monumental task and a very impressive logistical operation under the most difficult of circumstances. It is extraordinary on the same day there was this Suicide Bombing and the death of 13 Service Members and over 150 afghans that the evacuations still continue. It shows the professionalism of the forces on the ground there. Alex, appreciate the reporting. I want to go next to Clarissa Ward in doha, qatar. The White House said another Terror Attack is coming. I know you have reporting on isisk. Knowing what you know, how likely do you think it is they will attempt more during this evacuation . Reporter well, it is not just the u. S. Who is saying it, anderson. There are several Western Allied intelligence agencies all warning of the same thing, that now is the time for increased attacks because at this moment in the evacuation the u. S. Is essentially at its most vulnerable. This is the moment where you are finishing the evacuations of personnel and beginning the picking up of your own equipment and departing. And that leaves you vulnerable to attacks. You heard alex describe there about how the taliban had been pushed back, setting up that perimeter further away. You know, when we went to the airport just a week ago, anderson, you could just get by the taliban by waiving your documents and saying we have authorization to get through to the next Check Point, which was manned by u. S. Servicemen. And even for afghans, there was not always a clear pat down. There was not a clear search for weapons. So cheerlearly a lot of things needed to change to improve the situation. But as i said before, u. S. Forces and afghans were trying to get to the airport, still very vulnerable. And from what we heard in our conversations with an Isisk Commander from before this attack and indeed before kabul fell to the taliban, more broadly speaking, the country is still very vulnerable to attacks from this vicious terror group, anderson. Obviously, there as much as possible have been changes in response to the attack, i assume. We dont know much exactly about that, and there is a reason for that. They obviously dont want a lot of details out about any security changes they have made at the airport to their procedures. But at a certain point, it does come down to american personnel or former afghan Special Forces personnel having to search people before they can get into the per rim ster. And exactly, anderson. As alex said, you know, we heard yesterday. If you are going to do a proper search, you have to be close enough that you can feel the Persons Breath on your face. So there is very little way to mitigate this risk and this threat. And the reality is that on the ground, this is becoming the responsibility of the taliban. This is a moment for the taliban to show can they thwart these kinds of attacks . Can they stand up against the threat of isisk . Because even beyond the immediate threat to u. S. Servicemen, there is the broader question going forward, anderson, of the whole premise of this withdrawal was predicated on the idea that the taliban could assure that afghanistan would never become a Safe Haven for terrorists. And can the u. S. Continue to take the taliban as its word on this front . Is the taliban able to successfully quash isisk . Especially when the u. S. Has left and doesnt have as our Extension Eyes and ears on the ground to have a better sense of what these groups are doing and some of the basis of what we know are in very rural and remote areas. Its simply not possible, many fear, for the taliban to be across all these threats. As you know better than anybody, the idea that the taliban are going to be able to, you know, man Check Points and operate in a manner which trained forces usually do, you know, i mean, these are these are thugs. These are, you know, many of them have very little education at all. They are used to just, you know, theyre fighters. They have been killing people for years, bullying people, you know, doing horrific things all throughout afghanistan with impunity. The idea that they are going to be able to kind of in an efficient Manner Man Check Points seems kind of just difficult to believe. I mean, and thats the real fear here. Up until a few weeks ago, the taliban was known as being a vicious insurgency, a gorilla warfare group. Now they are in charge of governing an enormous country with a huge variety of complex threats that face it. And the reality is they concentrate on one area such adds, you know, keeping the electricity going, maintaining Law And Order on the streets Of Kabul, making sure that the ministries are operating. Are they really having time also to focus on these militant jihadist groups like Alqaeda And Isisk that some worry could pose, maybe not in the near Term Future but in five years and further along a more broader global threat . And the answer to that is we just dont know. It is worth mentioning, anderson, that isisk sees its primary enemy right now as being taliban forces themselves. They believe the taliban is not implementing Sharia Law in the way it should, that it is becoming too pragmatic, too diplomatic in its approach particularly towards international communities, and they want to see a much stricter and more brutal, if you can imagine that, Interpretation Of Islamic Law introduced. So the taliban will have to put out multiple fires and as of yet if they have the wherewithal to do that, anderson. Well see you later on in the program for more of your interview with that Isisk Commander. Right now we will go to richardson clark. Richard, thanks for being with us. If intelligence suggests that another Terrorist Attack is likely, what does one do . What tools do you have in a situation like this to keep afghans from dying, to keep u. S. Service members from dying . Well, not enough. I think its pretty clear that the u. S. And its allies have some sort of Intelligence Stream coming from isis. They are somehow tapping into isis. They know what theyre planning or talking about. You might know what is going to happen. You dont know when. You dont know how. If you know who, you can try to track them down. Now, the u. S. Cant track them down very readily, but the taliban might be able to. And the bizarre thing, anderson, about the way the u. S. Has chosen to leave afghanistan is that we have become dependent on the taliban, dependent on them to allow people into the airport, dependent on them now to help with our own security. And when that last plane takes off, when there are no u. S. Troops on the ground, we are going to be dependent on the taliban to maintain security at the airport. With only a few days left before the withdrawals from afghanistan, what concerns you most at this point among the, you know, the huge platter of things that could possibly go wrong . Well, you and klarissa were just talking about bombs at the airport. You know, people wearing suicide vests. But what if the isis people have mortars . What if they can stand off a ways from the Airport And Drop mortars on the runway as our planes are trying to take off . Thats a whorrific scene, but yu can imagine it. So we are dependent on the taliban to find these people. The taliban want to, of course. But i still consider it rather bizarre that the way in which the biden administration has done this has meant that the united states is dependent on the taliban for our own security, for our own ability to extract our people. And not only dependent, in some cases it seems giving information to the taliban such as were concerned or we have information about a vehicle born explosive device, perhaps, so look at cars more. I mean, it is strange bedfellows to say the least. Yeah. Well, we were enemies last week and last week we were sharing intelligence and were giving them list of americans who need to come through the Check Points. It is very, very odd. But it could lead to a better outcome. It could lead to a situation where the taliban moderate their behavior, and the united states in turn, this is after we leave, the united states and our allies in turn provide them access to afghanistans money, provide them access to some of the technology they need to run the country. The country is in very bad economic shape and will collapse economically unless we cooperate with the taliban. And bill burns, the cia director, said that to the taliban military leader. I think we both know we need them and they need us. Its become a strange codependency. The taliban, though, it does not seem from everything i have read and talked about, it doesnt seem like it is this monolithic organization. It seems like there are competing factions, different mafia bosses, you know, different ideological, you know, viewpoints or perspectives. Thats true. But there is a ruling shera, which is probably monolithic. There is also pakistan. Pakistan is behind the taliban to a great degree. The taliban rely on pakistan, and we need to be putting pressure on pakistan, and im sure we are, to moderate the Talibans Behavior and to get taliban cooperation. Right now the taliban want to become part of the community of nations. They have said that. Well, there is certain preconditions. Even after the evacuation is over, they have to let people out, whether thats in busses over the pakistan border or up to Iz Beck Stan or whether the turkish military come in, which is a possibility and manage the airport on behalf of the taliban, and then we can continue to get people out. Our precondition for any cooperation going forward has to be the people are allowed to continue to leave, even after the Air Lift. I really appreciate you being with us tonight. Thank you. Thank you. Coming up next, the latest on what the president s advisers are telling him as the race for these dangerous as they brace for these dangerous final days. 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Basically these next few days of this Evacuation Mission could be the most dangerous of the entire time these troops have been on the ground in kabul, trying to get these americans and green cardholders and afghan allies out of there. Thats because of the nature of whats expected to happen over the next few days where you are seeing fewer u. S. Troops there. They are going to take their resources and weaponry with them when they go. So of course a smaller presence according to the White House translates into a higher risk, especially given what happened yesterday, that is of concern here at the White House. This is a meeting that President Biden had with his national Security Team this morning. Hes had one every single day this week. We are told theyre expected to continue throughout the weekend. But they are saying, yes, we do expect another one of these is likely. We should note, these are similar warnings we were hearing from officials before the attack happened this week. Were just starting to learn more about some of the 13 Service Members who were killed in this suicide attack. Rylee mccollum is the first time we have from his family. Hes 20 years old, has a Baby Due three weeks from now. Just devastating. Do you have any updates on whether the fampresident Made Pe calls to families and others . I know there was talks of making sure everybody was notified. Yeah. This is a pretty delicate situation. He hasnt called anyone yet. I think a lot has to do with the next of Kin Evacuation Process thats going on and also what Jen Psaki said earlier today. When these people get this news from people as Rylees Father did today, it is the worst day of their life, finding out this news. And, so, Jen Psaki is saying theyre not always ready for a call from the president immediately. They do plan to facilitate those calls. It wont happen immediately. And then the next question is what happens with the dignified transfers . Does the president go to those . This is the first time that troops have been killed. It is a situation close to him given that he often pulls out that little card he carries around in his pocket that notes the number of forces that have been killed. Now there are unfortunately more added to this list. Yeah, 13. Joining us now a republican lawmaker who is not a critic of the president , illinois president adam kinzinger. He is critical on this episode as well as the decisions leading up to it in the past administration. As a veteran of the war, He Spokes from experience. Quoting now from his Piece Today in Foreign Policy magazine, quote, the taliban cannot be trusted. Not before, not now, not ever. It is shameful President Trump negotiated a deal with the taliban organization. It is appalling that our current president underestimated the impact of his announcement and the chaos that would ensue. Worse, the lack of strength being shown by our Commander In Chief is embarrassing. Thanks for being with us. But before you get to the Foreign Policy, i want to talk about this former u. S. Marine were talking about. It is the first person whose name we know his family spoke to Rylee Mccollum is his name. His wife has a Baby Due in a couple weeks. Wanted to be a marine, so much so he wanted to carry around a Toy Rifle as a toddler, which i love the image of that. This was his first deployment. When you see In Black And White who this person was and the devastation that his family will feel for the rest of their lives, it is just it is just another its just horrific. It is. Its obviously incredibly sad. And as we get the rest of the names, its going to be repeated over and over and our sorrow will pale in comparison to the families. It is a reminder. I heard somebody earlier mention while it is extremely tragic that these 13 people were killed, you know, what were they killed doing . And they were killed saving lives, Saving American lives, saving green cardholders lives, saving the lives of people that worked with us in afghanistan. So while of course we certainly wish this was far different, i think it is important to note that this was something that people often say, you know, is that death in vain . Thats the death we certainly wish didnt happen. But i think you can look at what we were accomplishing and say there are many lives that will be touched and generations because of this. And also i do think it is important to point out as well that they were standing there exposed knowing that there was a likely attack. I mean, knowing that there was very specific intelligence. The u. S. Warned americans to get away from that area because it was not safe. Yet, they were standing there. If the immages from days passed are any indication, knowing what, you know, any second could happen in that crowd. How concerned are you about that . And is there anything you think that can be done that may not be being done . I dont know if there is anything that we could do that were not. In kind of looking where we are at the moment, you know, unfortunately having to rely on the taliban there is a series of bad choices that led us to this moment. But it is a very real threat. I have heard from people on the ground there as well as of course whats being reported in open source, and this is very reminiscent of what we were hearing a day or two prior. Now, hopefully, with the knowledge of this, with a perimeter thats been extended a little more and with knowing how it happened last time, we may be better prepared. But this is certainly probably as, you have been saying here, one of the more dangerous moments in the Afghanistan War in the past few days. After this attack some people from your party called for President Biden to be impeached or resign. Most of those people never spoke up when President Trump made the deal that President Biden has been following through on. But i do want to ask you something you said earlier today. That some people on his national Security Team should resign. If they dont resign, should President Biden fire them, in your mind . Yeah. Look, i think there needs to be accountability. I think President Biden needs to take better ownership of this. Kennedy used the bay of Pigs Analogy where he took full responsibility and his Poll Numbers recovered because thats what americans want. They want leaders who take responsibility. So a firing or removing of a national Leader Team should not be a scapegoat. But we need to know what happens. As far as my Partys Knee Jerk reaction, look, this is tragic. I agree there was a ton of things done wrong. Calling for the impeachment of a president is not what the constitution describes. Lets give it a potato or two before we start focussing on that only. I have been very critical of President Biden in this moment because my hope is through that criticism we would be able to change kind of how we were doing things. I have been very critical of the prior president. But this country really needs to get back to where we see ourselves as americans before, you know, party members. And unfortunately i think that is flipped around at this moment. You are consistent in your criticism and your praise, which speaks to your favor. I do want to read something from your op ed. You said we have the strength, Power And Fortitude to stand up for freedom and we must take that now by pushing back. Securing the airport, expanding our efforts to ensure the Safety And Security of all americans, afghans with special visas and our afghan allies in danger. What would you do differently at this point . I spoke to former chairman Mike Rogers Yesterday who talked about expanding the perimeter. To me, and im certainly no expert, but that seems to, im not sure what that actually does on a tactical level. It seems to just first of all, you would need more american troops there. You would expose them to just a greater number of people over a greater mass of area. What do you think should be done . Yeah. I mean, look, you are exactly right in that. All you are doing is pushing out the potential for people gather. Look, if i could go back two weeks, i would have basically secured the city Of Kabul and told them not to come in. But given where we are now and given there is already a wind down detonation of american equipment, were running out of opt options. But the one way we can redeem a bad situation is to say that every american that needs to get out can get out. And every afghanistan siv. Look, i may be wrong here, but the indications were getting on the ground have been very different than what the administration is briefing. They keep talking about were still letting Afghan Sivs in. What were hearing from people on the ground is that Afghan Sivs are being kicked out of the airport and there are actually planes with open seats. So we will be able to figure out whats going on in a few weeks when we have hearings and stuff, but i hope they are wrong and they are still allowing these folks in the airport to leave as long as we have time to do that. Thank you. I appreciate your time. Any time. Up next, an exclusive interview with an Isisk Commander. Without my medication, my small tremors would be extreme. I was diagnosed with parkinsons. I had to retire from law enforcement. It was devastating. One of my medications is Three Thousand Dollars per month. Prescription drugs do not work if you cannot afford them. Aarp is fighting for americans like larry, and we wont stop. Thats why were calling on congress to let medicare negotiate lower Prescription Drug prices. Its taken a lot to get to this moment. Grew up at midnight the maccabees dreams are on the line. You got this. Refresh. It all, comes down, to this. We heard from Clarissa Ward earlier. As we reported, she secured an interview with an Isisk Commander. This was before the city fell to the taliban. It is an offshoot of isis which until a few days ago most americans had never heard about. Here is her report. Reporter two weeks before the attack, just days before kabul fell to the taliban, we were in touch with a senior Isisk Commander who said the group was lying low and waiting for its moment to strike. Words that turned out to be eerily prophetic. So this commander said he will do an interview with us here at a hotel in kabul. He said it is no problem for him to get through Check Points and come right into the capital. To prove his point, he let us film his arrival into the city. He is an Isisk Commander from the heart of the terrorist groups operations. He agreed to talk on the condition that we disguise his identity. In a kabul hotel, he told us hes had up to 600 men under his command. Among them indians, pakistan and central asians. Like many of his foot soldiers, we used to fight with the taliban but says they have fallen under the influence of foreign powers. We were operating in talibans ranks, however. These people were not aligned with us in terms of belief, so we went to isis. Do you think theyre not strict enough with their implementation of sharia. You see, they cant present one example where they have cutoff a thieves hand. They cannot enforce punishments because they are under other peoples control. So we do not want to implement someone elses plans. If anyone get ace long with us on this, he is our brother. Otherwise, we declare war with him whether he is Talib Or Anyone else. Have you conducted executions, Suicide Bombings, things of this nature . Yes. I have too many memories where i was present myself at these scenes. O reporter it is that chilling brutality that made isisk a primary target for u. S. Forces. In recent years, Air Strikes and Special Forces operations have ruthlessly targeted the group in kunar. Reporter has your group engaged in my fighting with u. S. Special forces . Yes. We have faced them on many occasions. We had close combat with them, too. In kunar they carried out Air Strikes. We faced them a lot in fire fights. Reporter are you interested in carrying out international attacks . This point is higher than my level. I can only give you information about afghanistan. Reporter with u. S. Forces out of the country and the taliban potentially in control, do you think that will make it easier for you to expand . Yes. This exists in our plan. Instead of currently operating, we have turned to recruiting only to utilize the opportunity and to do our recruitment. But when the foreigners leave, we can restart our operations. Reporter that moment has now come as the world saw all too clearly on thursday, a brutal attack on an already battered country and the threat that is not going away as u. S. Forces complete their withdrawal. Considering his main issue with the taliban seems to be theyre not strict enough in their interpretation of Sharia Law, why did a commander agree to sit down and speak with a woman . Reporter well, i think, first of all, anderson, it is important for our viewers to understand that there is always a lot of Hick Pock Rasy with these groups. What they say and what they do are very different. The irony here is that this commanders group, this isisk branch, actually released a Propaganda Video Today in which it was specifically chastising the taliban for doing interviews with women and for having conversations with women. And, yet, as You Saw, he was willing to meet with me privately in a room. There were very few of us in that room. I was not completely covered because it was a secure location in kabul and this was before the fall of the city. I think its fair to say that he agreed to meet with us because he had a very specific message that he wanted delivered. At the time, i dont think we quite understood the gravity of that message and the seriousness of it. But given what we now know about how closely u. S. Intelligence has been tracking that threat, its clear that the Isisk Danger is very real. We saw that yesterday in such an ugly and brutal fashion. And the fear now becomes, are we going to see more of it. Terror analysts say, anderson, we wouldnt be drawn on the subject of transnational attacks. Were five years away having to worry about isisk carrying out an international attack. But the threat for the people in afghanistan remains. And the question of whether the taliban can counter these groups or whether afghanistan becomes a Safe Haven for terrorists again, these are all very pressing questions that are now rising again to the floor, anderson. Has isisk really been able to hold territory at any point so far . I mean, we know that they have a base in the valley in kunar province. But up until now, they basically have been lying pretty low, and their focus is less on holding Territory And Governing and its more on staging these incredibly bloody gruesome attacks that send a very strong message that fl frighten people. And now their primary focus is on undermining the taliban at every single chance they have. They know that the talibans main Calling Card or its main source of popularity with certain swaths of the population is the fact that it can provide some degree of Law And Order where we havent really seen that in a coherent way. What they want to do now is show that the taliban can provide Law And Order and we can continue to create chaotic situations with these flashy hideous attacks in cities like kabul and no sense now, anderson, that they are going away any time soon. Thanks. Incredible reporting. Thank you. As we reported earlier, we now know the name of one of the servicemen killed, Rylee Mccollum. This video taken just a few days earlier. Ahead, we will talk to the reporter for pbs who shot this video about what the scene at that Check Point was like before the attack. Later an update on hurricane ida, now a category 4 storm headed toward the Gulf Coast. Over the years, mercedesbenz has patented thousands of safety innovations. Crashtested so many cars weve stopped counting. And built our most punishing Test Facility yet, in our effort to build the worlds safest cars. Weve created Crumple Zones and autonomous braking. Active Lane Keeping Assist and Blind Spot assist. Weve introduced airbags, Side Curtain airbags, and now the firstever rearmounted frontimpact airbags. All in the hope that you never need any of it. Earlearlier, we told you ab 20yearold Rylee Mccollum, who was a dedicated marine with a Baby Due in just three weeks. I want to show you video similar to some we showed you last night near where that blast occurred. It was taken before the blast to show you the kind of mission that u. S. Service members are engaged on, the difficulty of it, the closed quarters. This comes from Pbs News Correspondent who recorded it the days before the attack. She says it is the Entrance Point to Abbey Gate and she says taliban are in the front trying to sort through the crowd. U. S. Also has troops there totally exposed obviously, risking their lives for this mission. Very little separating them from afghans. Our correspondent who shot that footage joins us tonight. Also with us is a former Assistant Secretary of state for political military affairs. Jane, i appreciate you being with us. The video you took, it is so important to see this. It really gives you a sense of the sheer number of people and the lack of any real safety for u. S. Troops there. Can you just explain . I mean, was there actual screening being done by the taliban . Because i cant imagine that folks who are walking around with, you know, pieces of pipe to beat people with are necessarily great at screening people. Anderson, it wasnt really a screening or any kind of Security Screening by the taliban. What we really were watching was Crowd Control, and a deeply crass, violent kind of Crowd Control where they were beating people with sticks. They were Firing Guns in the air very often when the crowds would get too intensed and too pannished and push towards them. But i have never seen anything like it. U. S. Forces just standing essentially in the street surrounded by civilians and of course with the taliban just down the street supposedly controlling the flow of those civilians. They were hugely exposed. It is worth pointing out that it would have been impossible to screen these people. This was a Mass Crush of panicked civilians. I mean, at this point people were just trying to keep them alive. It was incredibly hot. It is august in afghanistan and You Saw people fainting every day. Seven people last weekend died in the crushes, who were basically crushed to death or crushed under foot by panicked crowds. At this point it is worrying about the safety of the crowds themselves of the women and children especially in there. So the soldiers were absolutely at the Forefront Face to face with people who were extremely stressed and traumatized and desperate to get into the airport. I also interviewed the chaplain for the 82nd Airborne who was there. She said she had never ever been as busy and overworked on an assignment. She was getting three hours of sleep a night because so many people needed to talk to her. It was emotionally deeply grueling for those soldiers. I have been watching that video and u. S. Marines and troopers from the 82nd Airborne and others shoulder to do that, or is that what it takes . No, listen, youve been in baghdad. You know how the checkpoints are. These had to be setup differently. Rather than having two or three men at the outer perimeter because of the Crowd Control responsibilities, You Saw a lot of marines on the ground that frankly were there for no other reason than Crowd Control. The taliban let those huge number of people through. Unfortunately the people were rushing through and pressing towards the gate. Because we told everybody when were leaving so they know they only have a few days left to get through those barriers. That is what led to the target being so dreadfully high in terms of how many troopers we lost. I hate to say it the wrong way, but wed normally lose two or three during one of these ied attacks, but thats when youre doing Crowd Control as well as security. And what is the pentagon now says that theyre taking maximum Force Protection measures. Obviously theres stuff that probably shouldnt be said publicly and use your judgment on that, general. I mean, what more can they do at this stage . The most important thing to do is they need to push the perimeter out so they have as few people exposed as possible. Youre right. Theres other tactics and procedures we dont want to be talking about, but what you want to do is have the minimum number of people at the Explosion Site if theres an ied going to come. But id also remind your viewers this is what our soldiers and marines have been doing for 20 years. Theyve been in a Target Rich Environment for terrorists for decades. And this is what our soldiers are exposed to almost every Day Theyve operated in iraq and afghanistan. Its one of things i think its such an important point and i think we said this earlier but it bears repeating those who died that day, yesterday, they knew that there was a very real threat. In fact, americans had been warned to leave the area, and yet i mean it just shows the you know, the dedication that they have and the, you know, sense of mission that they were still there exposed knowing full well theres a very likely chance of there being an attack and that there were still people trying to get out and that they were going to continue the mission. Absolutely. You have to remember that these soldiers werent just trying to find and safe their country Men And Women From Afghanistan and get american citizens out, but it was also very deeply important to many soldiers and veterans groups their partners on the batfield were brought in, the promises were kept, the special immigrant visas essentially that were promised to interpreters and those who worked with the u. S. Military, that, you know, people waited years for those. And suddenly an Announcement America is evacuating people but will be gone in days led to so many people who were somewhere along the way in that process. Either they had the visa or some sort of paperwork. They had an acknowledgement of the application, but, it was, quote, in process. For the american soldiers there they understand they dont want to leave behind those who risked their lives and will continue to take even more risk in their life if they have to live under the taliban. I spoke with a Veteran Today who had done several tours in afghanistan. And many veterans of course in the wake of afghanistan struggle with the idea of what was it worth, what did we achieve . But he said, you know, part of the sort of way to cope with that for many veterans has been to make sure they dont leave these people behind, that they bring their Battlefield Partners with them. For every young soldier standing at the gate theyre aware they could be surrounded by people who have made sacrifices for the united states and they want to bring them across and put them on flights. I appreciate your time. Thank you so much. Now to another emerging threat in the united states. Hurricane ida headed toward the u. S. Gulf coast where mandatory as well as Mandvoluntary Evacuas along the coast are in effect. For more than the trajectory and impact lets go to meteorologist allison chinchar. Wheres the storm now and wheres it headed . Its made its second landfall over cuba just recently. Sustained winds over 80 miles per hour, gusting up to 100 miles per hour. Now, we have Hurricane Warnings and even tropical Storm Warnings in effect along the Gulf Coast here in anticipation of this storm in the coming days. Heres a look at the track. We anticipate that this is going to strengthen even further really once it gets over the very warm waters of the gulf of mexico. Its expect to get not only major Hurricane Status but category hurricane strength. Its expected to make landfall as a Category Storm sometime in the afternoon in louisiana. From there itll continue to push inland and thats where well start to see heavy rainfall. Here along the coast its going to be the storm surge, the pink color there 10 to 15 feet, the purple color 7 to 11 feet on the eastern side, very gusty winds. Even far inland jackson, mississippi, likely looking at 60 mile per hour gusts, obviously high along the coast itself. But thats why Power Outages is really going to be a and even the yellow still look at some pretty decent amounts of Power Outages expected as well as some trees down. Rainfall, however, thats going to be the biggest widespread concern just because how far that reach of impacts will be. Heaviest rain along the coast where 6 to 10 inches are not out of the question and even areas of kentucky or even ohio, anderson, likely to pick up 7 to 10 inches. And sunday is the anniversary of hurricane katrina. It made landfall this sunday. Do woe know how similar the path this storm may take is to katrina . Right, theres some similarities but theres also a few things that really separate these two storms. For Starters Katrina started well out over the open atlantic. Ida really coming up from the gulf of mexico. Both are anticipated to hit louisiana, but katrina was a category 3 at landfall sustained winds about 120 miles per hour. Ida is expected to make landfall as category 4, winds in excess of 140 miles per hour possibly. With ida the winds are expected to be much stronger. But the real question for so many people who lived through katrina is the flooding. And the one thing well have toto keep a close eye on, anderson, specifically is the forward speed. The slower this storm is at landfall the more likely it is to produce tremendous amounts of rainfall because it can sit over that area for much longer periods of time. These are the things well have to keep a close eye on at least over the next 36 hours. Coming up next, much more on the still precarious situation. The first confirmed death of a u. S. Marine. And well talk to a reporter of the Los Angeles times who was beat up by a member of the taliban. All that and more when 360 continues. And you have thinkorswim mobile so i can finish analyzing the risk on this position. You two are all set. Choose the app that fits your investing style. 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