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Tomorrow . [ inaudible ] he just lost that court case. Hes got covid hes dealing with. Hes got afghanistan. Hes got Voting Rights and infrastructure. A lot on his plate. Thats what it means to be the president of the United States. Ill take it a wa, continue with our Breaking News and well see you back here at midnight. Thank you, sir. Ill see you soon. This is Don Lemon tonight. This is our Breaking News. The United States and the world grappling with the Nightmare Scenario of the deadly Terror Attack In Afghanistan. Twin Suicide Bomb blasts in kabul, taking the lives of 13 u. S. Service members, including 10 marines, wounding 18. Officials in kabul say more than 60 af aghan, men, women were killed. Bluntly warning the terrorists who carried out the attack will pay. To those who carried out this attack as well as anyone who wishes america harm, know this. We will not forgive. We will not forget. We will hunt you down and make you pay. I will defend our interests and our people with every measure at my command. The president directing Military Leaders to draw up plans to strike isisk and vowing the mission to get americans and afghan allies out of the country will continue. But what does this mean for his Exit Strategy . American troops are supposed to be out in just five days. The White House says at no Point Today has the president considered keeping them there past August 31st. Roughly 1,000 americans are still in the country. Todays Suicide Bombings coming after repeated public and private warnings from the president of a potential attack. The top u. S. General for the middle East Warning of more imminent threats from isisk In Afghanistan. Im going to show you some video now. Its of the immediate aftermath of the blast at that airport. It is graphic. Its hard to watch, but it is the raeality of what u. S. Troop and the afghan people are facing, the inhumanity of whats happening In Afghanistan. Here it is. So this is the chaos in the moments after the blast. Bodies everywhere. People screaming. Those who were still standing trying to help the wounded while theyre surrounded by the dead. Crowds of bloodied bodies running, carrying wounded children. This is the Nightmare Scenario President Biden warned about. This is why he wanted to leave, to get out of afghanistan and fast. I have never been of the view that we should be sacrificing american lives to try to establish a democratic government In Afghanistan, a country that has never once in its entire history been a united country and is made up and i dont mean this in a derogatory made up of different tribes who have never, ever, ever gotten along with one another. How many lives have been lost over the past 20 years . How many american troops . How many afghan men, women, and children . There are no good choices right now, but this is not how anybody wanted it to end, with more bloodshed. I want to bring in now cnns chief white House Correspondent kaitlan collins, our Pentagon Correspondent oren liebermann, and our Senator International Correspondent sam kylie. Kaitlan, the president vowing revenge, saying the u. S. Wont be intimidated with just days to go until bidens deadline. What is the White House saying about the Exit Plans now . Reporter well, i think its of great concern, don, because of course given what happened today, that is exactly what they feared could happen as this evacuation does draw to a close. But what President Biden and the pentagon made clear today is theyre sticking with this August 31st deadline. That means there are still five days left in this exit. Evacuations are still expected to continue as you saw some of the numbers being put out by the white House Today of those who are still evacuated. One of the big concerns before this attack had even happened is that the number of forces who are there on the ground right now, which is still in the thousands, draws down, the concern was that the threat could be even higher because its a smaller contingent of troops. It could be a higher chance of risk. Now of course given what we saw happen today, that is even a bigger concern inside the West Wing tonight. So i think thats what theyre focusing on for the next several days. Of course the other question is what happens once the u. S. Has left and those troops are gone because the president and his aides talked at Length Today about continuing those evacuations, continuing to bring people out of afghanistan after that. But the situation becomes a lot dicier once the u. S. Is no longer controlling that airport or that air traffic control. So those are the big questions facing them in addition to the president saying they are going to they are vowing retribution for the deaths of these 13 u. S. Service members. Of course the question of the intelligence and how they find isisk is going to be another big one facing them though he did say today they believe they have some good indication of where some of the leaders of ice isisk. It remains far from certain how this ends up. Biden is asking for plans to strike isisk, but were in the middle of a withdrawal now. If he decides to attack, how would something like that happen as we move out our Military Assets . Reporter so, first, in terms of the equipment that might be used, there are aircraft flying above Fighter Aircraft as well as above kabul airport. There are apaches on the ground. Those probably wouldnt be used. Theres also drones that could easily Reach Kabul and afghanistan. So the capability is certainly there and the pentagon has emphasized repeatedly that it has the ability to strike over the horizon. The bigger question is when and how . Does that strike happen while there are still u. S. Troops and u. S. Citizens on the ground, or does it wait until there are no more u. S. Personnel on the ground simply from the perspective of risk . Of course theres the other question of how do you find your target . There are no more u. S. Troops and personnel who are able to gather intel and pick out Whats Information and give you the information necessary to carry out a strike. So youre either relying on intelligence you can pick up from above from drones as well as satellites or youre relyingrelying on the taliban to pass you that information. It becomes logistically very difficult but certainly within the capability of the military to find the target that its looking for. The bigger question is when and how, and thats where president Joe Biden said it would be at a time and a place of the u. S. s choosing. He also says, oren, that the evacuations will continue, but Centcom Commander says isisk threats are still imminent. What is being done to prevent another attack . Reporter there were a number of different steps that were taken. As the threat increased over the last few days, Military Commanders on the ground boosted the portion of the u. S. Troops there that were aimed and working for security of the compound. Following this attack, president Joe Biden as well as general Frank Mckenzie said there were contacts with the taliban, asking the taliban, urging them to expand the perimeter of the security corridor, essentially creating a bigger buffer around the airport. They acknowledged this certainly isnt a perfect solution. There are some good Taliban Fight whose are good at working with the u. S. And oothers that are not good with working at the u. S. Here is general mckenzie speaking earlier today. Very, very what we call tactical. That means imminent. They range from rocket attacks. We know they would like to lob a rocket in there if they could. They also aim to get a Vehicleborne Suicide Attack if they can. Theyre working all those options. Weve just seen their ability to deliver a walkin, a vestwearing suicide attacker. All of those things we look at. Reporter in terms of the ability to stop vehicle borne improvised devices, mckenzie asked them to shut down some of the roads leading to the airport, and in terms of stopping something from the air, there are systems that are shoot down rockets or mortars or attacks like that. The hardest is a Suicide Bomber who is able to meld into the crowd and work his way toward security. It is no doubt and will remain a very challenging question. To our man on the ground, sam kiley. Sam, you were just in kabul at the airport. Youre very familiar with the area where the attack happened. I want you to walk us through how this unfolded, why the area outside the airport is so incredibly dangerous. Reporter well, where this is located is the abbey gate, which is probably the principal chokepoint for people trying to get into the airport. Its next to the Baron Hotel, which is the headquarters for the british operation there. The Baron Hotel is slightly outside the main Airfield Compound but a very important location for filtering people through that camp and into the main airfield. So essentially there is a magnet there of two potential Access Points for people. When they go north up the road or more or less north up the road, they are bounded on either side, as they get closer to the airport perimeter, by blast walls. Theres also a sewage or a ditch, a Concrete Ditch off to the left as theyre walking up. Now, there are tens of thousands of people sometimes, but many thousands at any time pressing up against that abbey gate, desperate to get in, don. Now, the marines, the only way that these people can get in, particularly at this urgent end of the evacuation process, is for the marines. There used to be afghan Special Forces doing the filter and the initial search of people and bringing them in. Now it was marines, and there will be 82nd Airborne will be at other gates. They have to go forward and engage directly with the people that theyre searching. In the words of general mckenzie, to feel their breath. Theyve got to get that close. Theyve got to frisk people. Theyve got to go through their luggage. By the way, theyre probably within 6, 10 feet of the last line of taliban security also trying to control these crowds. That is the point at which at least one of the Suicide Bombers struck in this very dense environment in which local afghan health authorities are saying at least 60 afghans were killed, and we know of Course Weve had this Mass Casualty among u. S. Forces. So it is a kind of a Horror Story waiting to happen. Those of us who have been covering afghanistan for a long time, i took one look at that before i even got there and realized that this would be an absolutely dead certain target for the islamic state. And sure enough, a few days later, exactly that intelligence started coming out. And there it was the night before, the active intelligence telling people to get away from that gate. And still the marines were still trying to get people in because that is their principal mission, and theyve been told, and they do not want that mission to fail, don. Sam, the president mentioned he talked about tribes, right . But there are so many factions In Afghanistan, isisk, the haqqani network, the taliban. Some are fighting each other, so how does this complicate the Security Situation for the u. S. On the ground there . Reporter well, there is an advantage actually for the u. S. There. The taliban are absolutely mortal enemies with the socalled islamic state. The one thing that the americans and the taliban can agree on is that isisk needs to be annihilated. The taliban have worked hardest than any other Military Group In Afghanistan to do just that. Theyve had many, many battles against them, having suffered a series of atrocities in the early days when isisk was trying to get itself established. So there could be some synergy there and the bizarre situation in which the United States may well have received the initial intelligence about these attacks frankly from the taliban, but there is equally a suspicion and this is where it gets complicated that groups like the haqqani network, which historically are close to Al Qaeda, they are the pioneers, the leading Terrorist Organization up until they became part of the government in terms of Terrorist Attacks on civilians and military targets over the last 20 years in kabul. They are dominant on the Eastern Corridor Out to pakistan. The Military Commander of the taliban is also the head not the head, but hes a key member of the haqqani network, and hes a member of the haqqani family, and they are close to Al Qaeda. So its very unclear as to how exactly they stand, but theyre pretty efficient and rather disciplined group. So if they decide that theyre going to play ball for the time being with the americans, that could be to the american advantage although ideologically theyre closer to Al Qaeda. Again, Al Qaeda is an organization thats largely been crushed In Afghanistan, and isis is trying to fill that super extremist vacuum. So its a very complex environment, making very strange bedfellows. I think any immediate attempt by the United States is a Pipe Dream to get the Isisk Oper operatives. These are people who have been operating in this urban environment, committing appalling atrocities. Youll recall recently a Bomb Attack at a girls school. That was isis khorasan. They particularly pick on these groups where they can try to sow sectarian discontent. Theyre all about creating friction, and thats exactly what this attack was about, trying to create friction between the taliban and the americans at this very, very dangerous time during the withdrawal. Well, sam, oren, kaitlan, thank you very much. More with our reporters, our correspondents on the ground there live in the coming hours here on cnn as we have been watching them do their work all day. Well continue on. U. S. Officials warning of more imminent threats from isisk In Afghanistan. So can u. S. Intelligence stop them from attacking again . Mission control, we are go for launch. Tminus two minutes and counting. Um, shes eating the rocket. Copy that, shes eating the rocket. I assume we needed that . [chomping sound] lunchables built to be eaten. She has eaten the rocket. [girl burps] over. Its a wishlist on wheels. A choice that requires no explanation. 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Retaliate without creating a more volatile situation on the ground than there already is . First of all, if we can identify where they are before tuesday and we can strike them, we will provide that much more assurance that there wont be more violence before tuesday. So theres no point in holding back if we know where they are, we should strike them immediately. So what form could that retaliation take . You mean obviously air strikes, or youre not talking anything on the ground. What are you saying . Yeah, sure, air strikes. I mean if we dont have aircraft orbiting overhead right now, we should. We no doubt have predators that are armed, that can do the strikes against a small target. We should have other drones that can collect information. Were getting reports from our allies, and heres the other thing, don. Afghanistans not the way it was 20 years ago. There are people there with a lot of mobile phones, and they dont like isisk. A lot of these people want to get out, theyre reporting rumors. Theyre talking to their neighbors. There are many more sources of information now than when we entered in 2001, i can tell you. Phil, isisk is taking credit, and officials say that more threats from isisk are imminent. What are intel officials doing right now to try to track down these people and prevent more attacks . You heard The General say folks are turning them in, but what are we doing . Theres two ways that you can get intelligence. Those two ways are Human Beings and technical, that is stuff like email and phone. Youve got to look at stuff like, do you have what we would call chatter on the line . That is isisk people on the line now talking about what just happened. Does that chatter give you an indication who did that . You also have potentially informants on the periphery of the organization who could say these are the people who are talking about that organization. That chatter increases because people want to brag about what they did. So you look at all that information, technical, human source information. I would bet a paycheck were not going to get enough to act before tuesday. But over the next, lets say, 90, 180 days, well get enough to act. I tell you one of the challenges we have here is in the past, youd go to the afghans. Afghan intelligence or the Afghan National Army and say, what are you hearing . Obviously with the taliban there, don, that aint happening. General lark,clark, i was spg to chris earlier as he tossed to me and said it was sad. You and i were talking on a commercial break. Sad. Thats the only way to describe it. Americans are reeling tonight. 13 Service Members were killed. As a general yourself, how much is this weighing on the military tonight . Tremendously. Every one in that Chain Of Command, from the lowest Platoon Leader down there who had those men we dont know they were that were killed. Maybe he was one of the casualties. But all the way up through company battalion, the regiment, and into the pentagon, you can be sure that everyone in that Chain Of Command and all the people associated with them are heavily burdened. Its a very sad day, and i want to express my sympathies for the families as well. These men were heroes. They did Go On A Mission that was a selfless mission. They went there at the request of the president of the United States. It was a well defined mission. They did it to the best of their ability, and they fell in the line of duty. And we owe them a tremendous debt of gratitude. Those people who are coming out will never theyll never forget what we tried to do there for them. General, i want to go back to something you said that struck me because you said that if there is a strike, right, if we strike now, meaning america, then chances are there wont be another attack. Biden says hes going to okay more troops if needed but that Military Leaders have told him they want to continue with this mission as planned. If theres another attack, does that change the calculus . I dont think it changes the calculus. I think, you know, this is an Tonight Point not just for the mission, don, but this is about u. S. Credibility. Remember when this first happened, china was saying, oh, the americans wont defend taiwan. Putin was laughing. Our European Allies were a little bit shaking about this thing. What happened to the United States, this great superpower . Whats the matter with america . Well, President Biden in his Remarks Today Set that right. He said we will finish this mission, and we will hunt them down. Thats the kind of strong leadership that america needs, and its what our allies need to hear. So were not going to pull out, and thats clear. But the more that isis tries to do, as phil was saying, the more well pick up, and the greater the likelihood well strike sooner. If i were an isis leader, id be really worried right now because they dont have the discipline. They dont have the control, and they cant stop that chatter. Instead, what they expect to get is a lot of money and a lot of support and international adulation from this strike at the americans. And all of that thats picked up and our allies feeding us information from the gulf and other places and even some of our friends in pakistan are Feeding Information on this. Remember, the pakistanis, they have a big stake in this. They supported the taliban from the beginning. Now theyve done their deal with the devil, and the question is what happens to pakistan . So they dont want isis Running Loose there either. Phil, you want to respond to that because we did have Advance Intelligence that this was coming. The warnings were imminent at the airport that went out last night. Could more have been done to prevent this . I dont think so. Look, theres two kinds of intelligence. Theres intelligence that gives you warning, lets say strategic intelligence. This is a step below that. Somebody at the periphery, for example, of the isisk organization, whether to an informant or on the airwaves says something like, don, for example, theres a Big One Coming at the airport. What do you do with that . Thats not specific enough to secure every location. You dont know what type of attack that is. So you get that generic type of information, you can defend generally. Youve got to move on from that and say where did that information come from . Can we go up the vine to figure out where the heartland of the Isisk Planning was and take those people out . Im going to tell you based on what i witnessed in the six, eight months after 9 11, thats going to happen. I agree with The General. Within, i dont know, 180, 360 days, the people who plotted this and thats at the outside theyre going to be gone, don. Theyre going to be gone. All right. Phil, general, thank you both. I appreciate it. Thank you. 13 u. S. Service members killed today, includiing 10 marines. Im going to speak to a former marine who is friends with the Commanding Officer of the marines at the airport in Kabul Right after this. Were carvana, the company who invented Car Vending Machines and buying a car 100 online. Now weve created a brandnew way for you to sell your car. Whether its a year old or a few years old. We wanna buy your car. So go to carvana and enter your License Plate Answer a few questions. And our Techno Wizardry calculates your Cars Value and gives you a real offer in seconds. When youre ready, well come to you, pay you on the spot and pick up your car, thats it. So ditch the old way of selling your car, and say hello to the new way at carvana. 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Thank you so much for joining us, elliott. I really appreciate it. And thank you for your service right off the top. Good evening to you. 13 u. S. Service members were killed, 10 of them marines. 18 were injured. You fought with some of the marines who are there on the ground right now. What are they saying . Well, up until recently, they were completely overwhelmed trying to execute this evacuation, which has been, i mean, nothing short of, you know, disastrous. I have never seen i fought in two words on five deployments. I have never seen anything like ive seen in the past 12 days in which ive been inundated, veterans i know have been inun inundated. Journalists have been inundated with our afghan colleagues begging us for help as they try to get to the airport, as well as our american citizens. The reason ive been in touch with many of my former comrades, ones serving on the airfield, is thats the only way weve been able to get these people help, Reach Out and say, i hear youre at the north gate. Can you get 15 afghans in for me . Listen, if you get to the airport, if youre an american, its the equivalent of being at The Rolling Stones playing madison square garden, at the back of a Rock Concert like that, trying to get to the very front and get the band to pull you up on the stage. That is how bungled and mismanaged this whole thing has been over the last 12 days. What the marines have been doing at the airfield is nothing short of heroic. The last group of marines i was in contact with was today, and they were helping me get 29 afghans through abbey gate, and they got them through 20 minutes before that bomb went off. And im looking at my Text Messages right now, and ill read this to you. This is from Gunnery Sergeant martinez, who ive never met, but was working with me on signal to make this happen, and he finally says, im going myself. And thats the last elliot, i want to put up this because youre talking about you helped this group of afghans. This is right before the explosion, you said. And you were sent a photo by your contact on the ground at the airport, okay . This is that photo. Its up now. Weve blurred their faces. So how did you help get them out . Take us through this process. What happened . This is this is a group of 29 people. Its really comprised of three different groups, all of whom were brought to my attention by other veterans and activists who have deep ties In Afghanistan, saying these people need help. And they had heard through Word Of Mouth that i had contacts inside the airport, which i did because the battalion thats in the airport is my old Infantry Battalion from when i fought in iraq, and its commander is a Class Mate of mine that i served with in my 20s going through training in quantico. So on basically signal, we have been coordinating for 12 i and many others have barely slept in 12 days trying to get people contacts and get them into the airport. Thats how this evacuation has occurred. Youre still trying to help others, elliot. I just want to play this is part of a voicemail you received from someone that youve told us In Afghanistan is an afghanistan interpreter who youre trying to help get out of the country. Lets play it, and then well talk. Here it is. Hello, sir. Hope youre dog good. I wish you okay. Its all right, sir. We just moved back to go somewhere else because except that just we dont want to get caught with the by taliban because they are looking everywhere, place by place, Home By home, street by street looking for us. We dont want to be recognized by them. I will send you a picture of myself that when i was also close to that explosion and the mark of blood is all over in my clothes. So except me, all the family is so scared. I cant get to the airport, but i can come close or near to the airport. If its possible to pick us up, it would be good because for now, all the family is in a very bad condition. They are so scared. Kids are so scared. Everyone is in a very bad condition. So, elliot, this person is dealing with the threat of the Taliban Plus A threat of isisk. Theyre obviously scared. What will getting out look like for them . At this point i dont know. I mean this is a message i received earlier Today Right after that bomb went off and the airport shut down. Perhaps overland routes. I dont know. And the administration has made a lot of pledges of things theyre going to do. I have no idea how theyre going to do it. What should be happening . We should never have been in this situation in the first place. There were people as far back as april, congressmen like seth moulton, jason crow, peter merit. Im a writer. Peel like myself also writing, saying that a Mass Evacuation needed to occur. I mean people have drawn comparisons of saigon. This isnt saigon. Look at a map. Vietnam had hundreds of miles of coastline. Afghanistan is a landlocked country. We shut down all of our Air Bases down. Now theres one place to get people out of. This is this is im sorry. This is a collapse of american competence. For an administration that ran and packages itself as Understanding Empathy and service, what weve seen in the last few days, it understands neither. It does not have empathy for the afghan people to say nothing of the veterans across this country who are organizing to get their afghan colleagues out, and it doesnt understand service because it is squandering the service not only of all the people who fought In Afghanistan ive never seen so much squandered so quickly since april but also is squandering the service of the marines in that airfield right now because it has put them in an impossible position. You know, don, i earned a silver star, a bronze star, and a Purple Heart in my service, and one Thing Anyone who has ever earned an award for valor, is that they only hand out the medals and they only start talking about valor when things go really bad. And a lot of stuff has gone really, really bad the last few days, culminating in these dead marines that weve lost. Elliot ackerman, again, thank you for your service and thank you for appearing. We will have you back. Please keep us updated on the folks youre trying to help. 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I will tell you that having served in the White House, don, on difficult days like this, no ones sitting there thinking about politics right now. You know, the most somber and solemn days i spent there were days when, for example, President Obama spent the night at dover receiving flagdraped coffins from afghanistan and comforting families. Every president feels or should a sense of responsibility for those men and women under their under their watch. And im sure, and you could see it in President Biden today, how moved and how somber he was as he addressed the nation. So, yeah, its really, really hard, and its something that transcends politics. Not to Say Washington being what it is, that there arent people all over that town, you know, making craven political calculations right now. Yeah. They shouldnt. We dont really know how this plays out in the long term, and its really not important right now. Whats important right now is what happens in the next five days. Right on. Bidens scheduled Meetings Today i want you to take us inside. His scheduled meetings have bns canceled or postponed including the much anticipated first meeting with israels prime minister. So take us inside the White House. What happens in a crisis like this . You mentioned the former president and getting the bodies of Service Members coming back to dover. But what happens inside the White House now . Well, first you try and gather as much information as you can. Apparently he was in the Situation Room getting briefed when the first bombing happened, and then its a matter of gathering information as quickly as possible. You know, how many people were injured . What were the circumstances . And so Thats Job Number one. You know, are there going to be additional attacks . There was an additional attack. You know, was this part of some larger scheme that was going to play out over hours . So all of those things are primary when you first get the news. I think the other thing that youre interested in is who did this . Where are they . How do we find them . How do we hold them accountable . And you heard that in the president s presentation. Thats really important. Its important that he follow through on that. So im sure he was getting some intelligence on that as the day went on today. But, look, im sure their Information Wasnt perfect, and it was coming in, you know, in stages, and he was the most eager consumer of that information. And im sure as the depth of this crisis, of this Tragedy Set in, you know, i think that the mood of the room probably reflected that. The Press Secretary Jen Psaki was asked about bidens mood today, and she said that he was somber yet outraged at the terrorists taking the lives of the Service Members. She said any day where you lose Service Members is maybe the worst day of your presidency. I mean he, himself, got into a bit of that today, talking about his Son Beau who served overseas and then lost his life to cancer. Lets play some of it. Being the father of an army major who served for a year in iraq and before that was in kosovo as a u. S. Attorney for the better part of six months in the middle of a war, we have some sense, like many of you do, what the families of these brave heroes are feeling today. You get this feeling like youre being sucked into a Black Hole in the middle of your chest. Theres no way out. My Heartac Aches for you. Empathy has always been one of Joe Bidens, before he was president , strong suits. Did he set the right tone here . Well, i think he did, and more than anything, i think thats authentically how he felt. He knows he knows what its like to lose a son or a child too soon. Hes lost two in his life, and we know we know what an emotional tug that has on him, and im sure hes always thinking about the fact that hes going to be talking to families in the next many hours of those who gave their lives in this mission, a mission that he ordered. And so thats a very heavy thing for a president. I remember when President Obama made his speech announcing that he was sending more troops to afghanistan, and he made that speech at west point, don. And he plunged into the crowd of cadets after his after his speech, and when he came back, he was very, very sober. Anyone with a Beating Heart has to feel that. And Joe Biden certainly does given his history. David, thank you. I appreciate you adding some perspective for us. Thanks so much. Good to see you. President Biden Withdrawing from afghanistan. But it was his predecessor that started negotiating with the taliban. Stay with us. R . 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