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The completion by August 31st depends on the taliban continuing to cooperate, allowing access to the airport for those who were transporting out and no disruptions to our operations. In addition, ive asked the pentagon and the State Department for Contingency Plans to adjust the timetable should that become necessary. As for what would make that necessary to stay longer, the president did not elaborate. He did, however, warn that each day on the ground increases the risk to americans and american forces, including isisk militants who are targeting the airport. He did not say that it was blocking afghans who wanted to flee from getting to the airport. Nor did he do what lawmakers on both sides of the aisle wanted. He did not commit to stay until they all got out. He did not say how many remained, but instead said Antony Blinken would supply that information tomorrow. He additionally said that the number when the evacuation began was probably lower than most people believe because, quote, a lot left in the final few weeks. We also learned late today that even as the race to get others out goes on, the pullout of american troops has already begun, a Defense Official telling cnn this isnt affecting the mission, that official adding that the local commander can decide which personnel are no longer required based on the number of gates open at the airport, the number of people coming through and a number of other factors. We have more now from Kaitlan Collins who joins us from the White House. Do you know what went on behind the scenes that led to this decision by the president . Anderson, there were very few who think they can meet the deadline to get them out of afghanistan. That presence is going to get a lot smaller than the thousands of troops that it is right now with this drawdown and theyre trying to meet this deadline a week from today, essentially. President biden said today the longer the troops stay there, the higher the threat of a potential Terrorist Attack by isisk, by another organization becomes. That was really the Driving Force by President Biden wanting to meet this August 31st deadline. He is also concerned about the location of the taliban. It seems surprising but thats whats so critical about getting those 70,000 people you were talking about out, because theyre at the checkpoint, even though a lot of people going to the checkpoint in days past have been fleeing the taliban. That was the attitude inside the White House. They did not want to extend this deadline. Its certainly not what we heard from world leaders, including some of the ones President Biden spoke with today or even some democratic lawmakers. Democrats like jason crow, a former army ranger, who says he doesnt think this is enough time to get those afghan allies who helped the u. S. Out in time. He just thinks its enough time to get americans out which, of course, we know is the president s Number One priority. What do we know about the people left behind . They are allies for a part of two decades. I think the concern is, yes, we have a deadline of seven days from now when the u. S. Has to be out of afghanistan, but Jen Psaki said the actual deadline of when those evacuations are going to start is actually much sooner than that. They have a period where they can start these evacuations and then they have to start on the thousands of troops that are still there, the machines, the weaponry thats still there, and that could likely take several days. Thats a factor in it. Its a question of once those u. S. Troops are out, is anyone else going to get out . That seems to be a massive concern by these lawmakers of what its going to look like if the u. S. Is able to get out. We still dont know who is going to run kabul when they get out by August 31st. A lot of big questions in these last seven days. The plan when the taliban took over was that turkey would maintain troops to keep the airport open. Obviously its unclear to me that is going to continue. It seems highly unlikely at this point. But i think you made an important point that hasnt gotten a lot of attention, that just getting the u. S. Troops who are currently at the airport and the equipment. I mean, theres helicopters, theres vehicles, getting that equipment out, that may take days. Right. And the threat gets higher the fewer troops are there. Thats a big concern for the White House. And theyre also worried a sense of panic could set in among the afghans who are still there and see that window for getting out closing as they know the united states is leaving. So i think it could be a precarious few days here, so its getting about 6,000 troops out of there, getting all of their Machinery And Weaponry out of there or destroying it, because the taliban has already got a lot of weapons from the united states as they overtook afghanistan. We saw that happen. Maybe it was from the afghan Security Services or whatnot that they got this from, so what they can get from the united states in their hands. The next few days there are a lot of critical factors that go into what The End of the u. S. time in kabul is going to look like. Kaitlan collins, thank you. When we left last night there was a Fire Fight going on at the kabul airport. He joins us here tonight. What reaction has there been from people youre talking to from what President Biden said this afternoon . This was in a way consistent with what they had been planning for, which was an evacuation of all u. S. Forces and The End of the evacuation by August 31st. But the atmosphere has cranked up a level because any kind of extension to that has now been ruled out, particularly in the face of the taliban Announcement Today saying, anderson, that no more afghans can come to the airport. The afghans are now forbidden by the taliban to join the evacuation process. The extent to which they choose to dreirectly apply that remain to be seen, but certainly people arriving at the outside perimeter of the airport are significantly lower. There is a possibility in a sense, almost, that they will run out here of people to evacuate because there is not enough people able to get here in order to seek evacuation. That said, the numbers as of sunset last night, just before sunrise now, were around 4,000 people still waiting to be vac waited, but in all probability, those people have already probably been moved through. Whether theyve been replenished by new people remains to be seen. But the atmosphere is very much soured now because of the taliban decision to stop afghans from escaping the country, the taliban saying they dont see any need to leave. They also fear a Brain Drain, and part of it may be they recognize the more people that the u. S. Has to evacuate, the less likelihood there is of meeting that deadline, and therefore the greater chance of friction with the united states. They are trying to integrate themselves with international community, anderson. The taliban perspective, like you said, there is the Brain Drain aspect, and also they want the u. S. Out, and one way to get the u. S. Out quicker is to cut off the flow of afghans who were able to actually leave. Reporter yeah, i think its clearly a pretty cynical move. It does trap people in afghanistan who might otherwise have been hoping to get out. The process for getting out had become profoundly fraught. There were deaths associated with it, crash deaths, which was also used as a reason why the taliban were stopping it, and, of course, its an appalling look for them to come to power amidst a Mass Exodus of some of the best educated people in the country. Its an appalling political beginning, and they recognize that, i think, and theyre trying to prevent it. But ultimately, really, what theyre trying to do is bring this chapter to a close so they can continue with their efforts to try to pacify the country. Theyve only got 75,000 men under arms, its a big country and its highly fractured, anderson. I appreciate you being there, thank you. Operational major overseas military operations, Leon Panetta joins us as well as military analyst mark huertling. Do you think sticking to the August 31 timeline is smart . I think the president made a point that he obviously is trying to meet that deadline, but hes also asked the pentagon and the State Department to develop Contingency Plans. And i think thats important to do, because, frankly, we made a promise. We made a promise to united states citizens who are in afghanistan and to the afghans who fought alongside of us that we would do everything we could to evacuate them. I think weve got to still keep that promise. Joe hertling, from your point of view, does President Biden have a choice to stick to the deadline . He doesnt have a choice, anderson. We talked about neo a couple times, the Noncombat Aevacuatio operations are ongoing. The first phase is always disastrous, the second phase is when things start flowing. Thats what were in right now and seeing good stuff. Especially in a contested neo, the third and fourth phase is very difficult. The third phase is when the army gets a vote. When theyre saying, heres what we want you to do or heres what were going to force you to do, it becomes problematic. We also then eventually will have to talk about the fourth phase which is the time when the commander on the ground starts turning the rheostat a little bit and starts talking about what forces he allows to leave, what forces he keeps in defense of the airfield, and what forces he keeps in terms of Potential Contingency Operations which the president talked about today. Those are all very sporty propositions, and were seeing those right now. But i just go back to the fact right now the enemy, the taliban and others, are getting a vote, and the commander on the ground and the president has to be wary of that. Secretary panetta, its interesting to watch this from afar, because it does seem like both the White House and the taliban are Making Public Pron pronouncements to theyre kind of sending messages to Each Other through public pronouncements. The president is saying there are Contingency Plans being developed if they need to stay longer. It sort of sends a message to the taliban that, well, there are other options potentially, and yes, we want to stick to this, but dont push too hard because we have other options. The taliban is saying were cutting off the road. We can stop afghans from actually getting to the airport. That might actually, you know, help the u. S. In terms of reaching the sticking to the 31st Deadline in a sick way, because if they stop afghans from getting to the airport, then theres going to be nobody to take out other than u. S. Citizens and european allies. Look, theres no question that signals are being sent from one side to the other. Because the reality is that the taliban is now in control of afghanistan. And in many ways, whether the taliban cooperate or not could determine the fate of those u. S. Citizens who are remaining as well as those afghans who fought alongside of us. So i understand the need to try to continue, to try to coordinate with the taliban. But the united states is also committed to standing by our word here. Weve got to do everything we can to uphold our work to those people who are there. If we just kind of Cut And Run a and leave them to the taliban to determine what happens to them, i think that will further undermine our credibility in the world. President biden said theyve helped more than 70,000 people be vac evacuated from afghanist since august 14. Im certainly not an expert on this stuff, but to me that seems like a remarkably high number of people. A senior Administration Official said tonight that a lot of deserving their term afghans will be left behind. Youve studied this kind of thing. 70,000 in that time, is that a remarkable number . It is remarkable is a great word, anderson. It is incredible to me. I didnt think it would get to that high of a number, and if the numbers continue to go as theyve been over the last couple of days, we could get upwards of 130 to 150,000 out. That would be almost magical, in my view. But the problem is, what were talking about is the connection between the numbers with the individuals. The siv applicants and the special evacuees are the ones were most concerned with. The numbers seem high, i would suggest, because many of the siv applicants are getting through, but theyre also bringing a large number of Family Members. So the Planning Factors in any neo have to do with, first of all, how many american citizens do you have, the expats, and then you start counting the others you have to include in the evacuation. One of the numbers i had to execute was we went in with plan x. We found that factor quadrupled, quin quintupled, because someone comes in with more Family Members and your numbers triple. The president is saying, im trying to get all the siv and the special evacuees out, but theyre seeing people on the ground say, hey, im still not at the airport and im not getting out, whats going on . So there is a disconnect. Secretary panetta, the Cia Director traveled to afghanistan this beak to meet with the Taliban Leader as the u. S. Is seeking a clear understanding on where the taliban stands on a number of issues as the Clock Ticks toward this deadline. That would have been a fascinating meeting to be a Fly On The Wall for . As a former Cia Director yourself, how does something like that go, and how much leverage does the u. S. Have . Theres nobody better to send in that kind of meeting than Bill Burns. Hes someone who is probably the most experienced diplomat in the administration, and hes had to deal with all kinds of adversaries. So it was a good move to send Bill Burns in to talk to the taliban. And when the Cia Director shows up and talks to the taliban, i think he brings some authority to the table, because one thing that the taliban does remember very well is the role of the cia in going after the taliban. So i think bill had some leverage here. I hope he was able to get them to understand that it is in their interest to cooperate at this point. The last thing they want to do is get into another war in the united states. General hertling, i appreciate your time. Thank you both. Will afghanistan be able to evacuate in a couple days . We talked to someone who is out and she hopes the rest will be able to do it in due time. And the fate of Broward And Miamidade counties in florida if they fail to follow the Mask Mandates. Get up to 60 off amazing hotels. And when you get a big deal. You feel like a big deal. Priceline. Every trip is a big deal. Without my medication, my small tremors would be extreme. I was diagnosed with parkinsons. I had to retire from law enforcement. It was devastating. One of my medications is Three Thousand dollars per month. Prescription drugs do not work if you cannot afford them. Aarp is fighting for americans like larry, and we wont stop. 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It was maybe after two weeks that we realized they had taken over three cities, which was herat and two other ones. Then we realized they were close to palmo m, and the next day thy were in kabul. I talked to critics the day before they got to kabul, and there was a thought that maybe it would be a fight or maybe it would be weeks from now. I know your Brother Back in colorado was trying to help get you out. When you realized that the taliban were already in the city, what did you do . Did you just stay inside . Yeah, we were staying inside and we were trying to contact my family. We were trying to get tickets as soon as possible. Tickets were twice the price, and then after a few hours, we found out the airport had completely closed. So we felt we were completely stuck and had no choice of leaving. We had no other opportunities. We literally felt hopeless and thats when my family was freaking out as well and wondered if we would ever be able to come back home. Your brotherinlaw works at hewlettpackard and they were able to dget a charter which helped you aim for something to get to the airport. What was it like just trying to get to the airport . Its actually hpe, he works for them, and getting to the airport, it was pretty scary. So we first actually went to the wrong gate, and we were waiting for hours. So many people were just together, and then after a while was getting to the gate itself, getting to the airport, the road, were you able to just drive there . I know there were taliban checkpoints. Yes. So first of all, there was curfews, right . We had to leave like at 5 00 in the morning after the curfew was over. We went to the wrong gate and i got out of the car to show them that i had an american passport. After i got out, there was a laser on me and they shot a gun a little while ago to scare us off, and someone told me that gate had not opened for three days. I talked to the congressman and whatnot, and he told me you need to go to abi gate. As i got to abi gate, there were so many people around us. It was pretty easy to get up, but once we got there, there was taliban lined up against the airport. Weve seen the crowds outside. What was that like to try to manage that . It was so scary. We were scared they might try to open Car Doors and try to take our stuff and whatnot. We didnt feel safe going there, but when its necessary, you have to go through it, right . Once we got closer, we got out of the car and we passed the taliban and they had actually stopped us. Once they stopped us, they took my moms passport. When they saw we were americans, they actually let us through. Then what happened . We kept walking forward, and when we got to the top, we just see a whole crowd of people pushing and pulling Each Other, and like, all we could think about was, is this what well have to go through . Maybe if we can tell them were citizens, we can go around these people. No, we had to fight just as much. Some people had no paperwork, some were from germany, turkey. We were all in the same mess and there were kids just crying sorry, im really emotional they were crying and fainting and there were people all bloody and having strokes, and it was probably something i would never expect to see. How long were you in that crowd . We were probably there for about four hours. We were pushing and pulling, and then, like, i got the attention of one of the british soldiers telling them we had an email from the congress and that we have to get on a charter flight, that we might actually miss it. He told me to get closer to the gate. There was, like, barbed wire, and like my moms clothes tore, her hand was bleeding, and we had to help her get above those barbed wires. You finally did get through. Yes. And i know that whole process of flying out and then not knowing where youre going and youre staying in bunk beds, a lot of fafacilities, all of tha was he can Tropical Storm Herminely T was extremely exhausting. Do you think theyll be able to get everyone out to the u. S. . Theyll probably have to take people out in helicopters or something. It was getting very bad. People are coming in every day trying to get past those gates. Those gates are so hard to get through, and they might have to find a different way. When you finally did get back to the united states, how are you doing . What was that like . Honestly, like, i felt relieved but i still feel sadness. Like, i feel like theres still so many people trapped in danger and i cant do anything about it. This is why im doing this interview, i want to bring awareness to the situation that there are so many people stuck who need help. I feel like nobody is doing anything about it. Were doing what we can, but i feel like we can do more. Salma, im sorry for all you went through and thank you for talking to us tonight. Yes, thank you so much. Bodies en masse at florida schools. What the governor says about the push to not have a Mask Mandate. Advil targets pain. Acetaminophen blocks it. Advil dual action. Fast Pain Relief that lasts 8 hours. And there you have it woah. Wireless on the most reliable network nationwide. Wow. Big deal . We get unlimited for just 30 bucks. Sweet, i get that too and mine has 5g included. Thats cool, but ours save us serious clamaroonies. Relax people, my wireless is crushing it. Thats because you all have Xfinity Mobile with your internet. Its wireless so good, it keeps one upping itself. The deaths from covid in florida are at an alltime high. 212 people died every day last week, which means one out of every five covid deaths this America Last Week was in florida. From governor ron desantis, there is more bad news, at least politically, his position to Mask Mandates doesnt seem popular. According to quinnipiac university, 60 support requiring students and teachers to wear masks. 36 oppose it. There are sometimes physical confrontations happening in florida over masks mandates in schools. Reporter in lake county, florida, tempers flared over Mask Mandates. This is my kid, this is my choice, this is my freedom. Reporter hundreds on both sides of the issue turned out to protest, even though masks are still optional in this district. The Issue Wasnt even on the school boards agenda. But that didnt stop parents from speaking out. I really feel as though the only way youll get control is to close it down for a month. No. Shut up reporter in jacksonville, florida, more anger over masks. Your job is to educate my child. That means reading, writing, math, a game of dodgeball at p. E. Would be great. But not a mask. Not a medical decision. It is not your decision to put a medical device on my child. It seems like a nobrainer. A universal Mask Mandate is the minimum we can do to keep our children safe. Reporter after heated debate, the duval County School Board voted for a Mask Mandate for all students. Only those with a note from a licensed Health Care Provider can opt out. In northern california, the Mask Debate prompted a 49yearold Father to aldlegedly assault a Childs Teacher in her school. He is now charged with a misdemeanor. There is part of me thats shocked, but to everyones defense, emotions are just high right now. It happened at Sutter Creek elementary. The district has a no Mask Mandate, but students can opt out. Parents clashed at the protest. We know who you are we know who you are. You can leave but well find you and we know who you are. Reporter it got so heated, police stepped in. In The End, the Board Of Ed approved a temporary mask requirement. And in panellas county, florida, parents wanted it to be their choice. Its our choice. Its our choice. I dont care if these kids are wearing masks. Were pulling our kids out. We dont want these decisions to be made for us. Wear a mask to prevent covid19. Come on. You are finished. Thank you. Times up. Lets move on. Next speaker. Dont make me ask you to be removed. Reporter randi kaye, cnn, palm beach county, florida. Lets get the advice of dr. Marty, infectious disease doctor. Dr. Marty, according to a recent analysis, there have been 70,000 covid cases and only 30,000 quarantined sibefore the start the school year. What do you think about the governor telling districts they arent allowed to opt out . Quite frankly, the entire thing breaks my heart. Were doing everything we can to stop transmission of this horrific virus. And the Governor And Everyone else, all leaders, should be working with us to do everything possible to slow down transmission. If there is a concern about masks being clean, remember, we have to change our underwear every day, we have to take baths every day. You change these things, you make sure that what youre using is appropriate, that it fits, that its comfortable and that it works. And when you do it that way, when you do things properly, youre going to have a reduction in transmission. This is well known. Thats why we use masks in hospitals and have done for tens of years. I mean, its really known to be an effective control method. And the fact that its been turned into something emotional instead of rational and a good understanding of the science simply breaks my heart, because what were seeing is outrageous numbers of people in our hospitals right now. Were running out of oxygen, were running out of staff. Weve had to hire people from the outside already to make up. Hundreds of people had to be hired to come into our hospitals. Were placing patients in situations that are unusual. Its terrible. Do you think from a medical standpoint, purely on a medical standpoint, kids above the age of 12, should there be mandatory vaccinations for them to go to school . Should teachers have mandatory vaccinations . Well, we have a proud tradition in florida of demanding vaccinations of people to go to school. Weve done very well with it in previous years. Here now we have a fully licensed vaccine that is among the safest and most efficacious that has ever been developed of any vaccine, and i think florida ought to follow its own tradition and absolutely mandate vaccines for all eligible individuals, particularly in settings where people are going to be close together in indoor spaces as they are in schools. The polling that we mentioned, does it reflect what youve experienced . For example, 63 of floridians, according to this poll, said they considered the issue of wearing masks to be about public health, not political freedom. 70 said they thought masks were effective to help in slowing the spread. Have you seen mask wearing increase . In different places. Were not seeing as much use of masks as really ought to be happening, which is and this is contributing to the problems that were seeing in our hospitals. But there hads been a little bit of improvement. Not as much as there ought to be. But i will tell you that every day i receive grateful parents sending me letters saying, keep it up, please, we need our children to be safe in schools. And theyre right. We need our children to be able to go to school and be safe. Theres many things that are mandated by the government that have always bienemann dated that are appropriate to mandate in schools. You dont go there naked, and right there you shouldnt be going to school without a mask. 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Com a little preparation will make you and your family safer in an emergency. A Weeks Worth of food and water, radio, flashlight, batteries and first Aid Kit are a good start to learn more, visit safetyactioncenter. Pge. Com. Theres new polling out tonight on covid. More than 900 unvaccinated people found that some would get the vaccine if it got Fda Approval. But over the weekend where the former president had a rally and he got some Boo S when he told them to get the vaccine may have gone too far. Reporter have you gotten the vaccine . No. Reporter why not . They havent tested it enough, in my opinion. Reporter the Pfizer Shot is about to get Fda Approval. Would that change your opinion at all . Not until they do a whole lot of investigating on it. Nothing is going in my arm until then. Reporter do you think that would take a long time . About ten years or so. I watch News Max and maybe a little fox, thats it. I dont want i want to hear what god is doing, thats all im interested in. I think there is a time when god is separating the sheep from the goats. What are you . Im a goat because i aint a sheep. Im not doing what they tell me to do. Im fighting against it. Frank ments joins me now. You must hear a lot of folks with opinions like that. It used to break my heart and now it just breaks my brain. It causes my head to explode because i know how dangerous the covid is and the delta variant, and i know how much more dangerous that is than the vaccine. The key moment, and this is a key moment right now, and weve got about 30 days. Number one, the delta variant, The Public knows it, understands it, finds it more serious than covid. Number two, our kids are going back to school right now and in the next 30 days, and everyone wants to keep their children safe. And number three, the fda full approval, which is the Number One factoid, the Number One Truth Point that The Public has been looking for. Those three combined means that over the next 30 days, this is where well have the biggest impact in getting people vaccinated. The good news is that those three together will convince about half of those that havent been vaccinated to get the jab. Heres the bad news, anderson. It means that when we are done, we can project that we will reach about 75 vaccinated, 75 toward herd immunity. Im not a scientist, im not a medical expert. I know that the number should be 85 , so it makes me nervous that were never going to get there. You made the comment that parents you polled on this issue who didnt want their child to wear a mask think theyre actually protecting their child. Is the vaccine the same thing . Do people think theyre protecting themselves by not getting the vaccine . I guess the argument would be theyre Vaxx Nagt themselves or the government or just dont want it. 55 of those who have not been vaccinated dont trust the government. When you have Anthony Fauci making the case, hes not a doctor to them. Hes not a scientist to them. Hes a bureaucrat, or even worse, inconsistent, flipflopping. Anderson, i try to do a straightforward approach on your show, and im grateful for the time that you provide. In The End, its going to be pediatricians who are going to make the difference for kids in school. Its going to be scientists who emphasize that now the fda has made the decision, and in The End, we need to poll people who know individuals who have not been vaccinated. If you want to get everyone safe, if you want to make everyone comply, its not going to come from television news, its not going to come from efforts from the government or advertisements. Get a pediatrician in every school. In fact, if youre a pediatrician, you should be getting in touch with your show. Pediatricians need to adopt a school. Parents will trust their teachers and so will the kids. Thats how you get vaccinations. You said a poll shows who hasnt been vaccinated. One poll shows 24 of full Fda Approval would get people to get the vaccine. This moves the needle only so far. The fda has the responsibility to provide The American people with the facts and the truth. And, anderson, thats the phrase theyre looking for right now. They want no exceptions, no excuses. Our job is to save lives. That is our only mission. Thats our only mission. Thats what the fda needs to be talking about right now. For those unvaccinated, theyre too nervous that these rules and regulations have been charged. They say one thing at one point and then they change it. It its not a mandate. In The End it seems like a protocol. Frank luntz, appreciate it as always. Thank you. Thank you. Democrats arerallying to pass a key item by President Biden. How long will they continue their infighting . Theyre trying to get this resolution to his desk. And there you have it woah. Wireless on the most reliable network nationwide. Wow. Big deal . We get unlimited for just 30 bucks. Sweet, i get that too and mine has 5g included. Thats cool, but ours save us serious clamaroonies. Relax people, my wireless is crushing it. Thats because you all have Xfinity Mobile with your internet. Its wireless so good, it keeps one upping itself. More Breaking News. Just before his remarks on afghanistan, President Biden vowed to keep hope for house democrats, passing a 3. 5 trillion Budget Resolution. But it still is a long way from his desk and it is a combative divided democratic party. A lot is going on. The house voted to pass the 3. 5 trillion budget framework. What concessions did Speaker Pelosi have to make with the ten moderates to get this deal done . Basically what she did, anderson, was promise them there would be a vote on the 1. 2 trillion deal that already has been passed by the senate and that that vote would come as early as september 27th, and she put it in writing. That means a lot of work has to be done in a relatively short period of time, because what democrats would prefer to see is the Budget Resolution they passed today, the 3. 5 trillion, filled out and ready to go and passed at the same time they pass a bipartisan infrastructure deal. Thats a lot of work that has to be done and theyll begin that process in the beginning of september. But what this illustrates, this illustrates how delicate this process is and how something simple by a relatively small group of members of congress could derail the whole process. Just to be clear this is not a vote on the bill itself. This is a vote to move forward. Thats right. This is essentially voting on the framework. This is members of congress agreeing theyre willing to spend 3. 5 trillion on the budget plan. Theres no specifics how that money will be spent yet, and thats the real hard work going to be now over the next couple of weeks, work that has to be done essentially before september 27th. Theyre going to separate, take all these different pots of money and decide specifically where theyre going to go. Theres got to be a lot of Horse Trading over here the next couple of weeks. Theyve really been talking about this in big, grand numbers. Its the granular details where this entire thing could come apart. And thats why even though theyve made a lot of progress, theres still a long way to go. Ryan nobles, appreciate it. Thank you. Van, this is one of President Bidens key domestic policy proposals. I think theyre both Breathing A Sigh of relief. Never bet against Nancy Pelosi. Youre going to lose your money, but shes had to work very, very hard. And its because you have two pressures on this democratic party. On the one hand you be progressives saying, listen, were probably going to have one shot here, lets do something big, lets do something memorable. Republicans could be in charge in a couple of years so they want to go big. When you say republicans might take over you mean i might lose. Im in these tough seats and im telling you ive got certain needs and youve got to take me seriously. I am the margin of Victory And Defeat if you take me for granted i am going stoostomp on the brakes. Never bet on Nancy Pelosi when it comes to dealing with her caucus. As you said the win did not come easy for democrats. Getting these ten moderates onboard was certainly an uphill battle and i think surprised a lot of democrats. Just last night there was explicit language, fbombs being dropped apparently as house democrats were meeting behind closed doors. Speaker pelosi is known as you pointed out being a master of kind of whipping her party into line, getting what he wants. Did she underestimate the power of the moderates . I think that clearly she must have misread something because its not that the moderates changed their position. They were pretty clear early on what their fears were, what their concerns were. She must have missed something because a lot of this stuff could are been worked out in advance. And you have the Deb Occul i think in afghanistan is demoralizing the base and divisions in the caucus is giving people some real heartburn, she had to really Step Up and make it happen. But she did Step Up and make it happen and she can be counted onto do that. You have a very tiny majority to work with. Which means any group that gets together, and the moderates said you have to take us seriously. Were your margin of victory in the fall and we have real needs and youve got to hear from us. We know they dont generate the party in power. Bidens Approval Ratings is below 50 . They seem disjointed with disagreement. As a democrat how concerned are you infighting is going to have an impact on the 2022 midterm . Look, were having a tough Summer But Weve got more than a year to get this thing turned around. I dont think anybody expected for a president as empathetic as this president to have sounded as tonedeaf early on with whats going on in afghanistan. I think hes beginning to right the ship there, but this is a tough summer. You cant deny it. This party has got to pass these bills, got to see the results, and then weve got to get ready for a tough Midterm Election. Do you think he was Tone Duff early on in this, in afghanistan . His initial statements i thought missed the mark when it came to just showing the empathy hes known for. Hes there because of his empathy and because of Peoples Trust in his competence. He hit his first Air Pocket and he didnt sound like himself. I think he now sounds like himself, but i think it shocked a lot of people. And look, everybody gets a chance to make mistakes and learn on the job even someone with as much experience as President Biden gets to learn on the job. This has been a tough summer for this party. Do you think you know, The American public has not been paying much attention to afghanistan over the last many years. People have kind of didnt want to hear about it, didnt watch stories about it. It just dropped off the radar for a lot of people. Do you think democrats are going to do you think this has resonance . Though theres a lot of people who support withdrawing but obviously the images whats happened the last couple of weeks weve seen the president s Poll Numbers drop. Look, a lot of people say he did the right thing he just didnt do it the right way. And so, you know, that then has to be worked out politically. Think about benghazi. You know, it was a tragedy but a relatively small Board Tragedy and republicans just beat the crap out of us for that for years. So you know what politically your opponents can do with any foreign policy mistake. You just dont want to hand them this kind of thing. 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Good evening. Chris is off tonight. Top of this second hour of the 360 the accelerated pull out from afghanistan. More than 70,000 people in the last ten days according to President Biden have been evacuated. He gave those figures ill announcing the country would stick to an August 31st

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