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Troop withdrawal is not a failure of intelligence, planning, or execution, and claiming there is no way the u. S. Could have withdrawn out afghanistan falling into chaos. No. I dont think it could have been handled in a way that were going to go back in hindsight and look. But the idea that somehow theres a way to have gotten out without chaos ensuing, i dont know how that happens. I dont know how that happens. So for you that was always priced into the decision . Yes. Lets discuss now. Cnns white House Correspondent John Harwood is here and cnn senior political Analyst Kirsten powers. Lets get into it. John, clearly the president is standing by his decision. What is the White House going to do about this unfolding disaster, what appears to be an unfolding disaster . What theyre going to do, don, is focus as intently as they can on the very thing that will determine whether it is ultimately a failure, and that is the large Scale Evacuation of american citizens and afghan allies. The president has acknowledged that this collapse of the afghan Government Security forces was faster than he expected. General milley told us today i had no intelligence saying it could happen in 11 days. Our own Colleague Clarissa Ward said this evening that nobody expected this could happen in 11 days. So as a result, the scenes that were seeing are shocking and disorienting and youre seeing justifiable Fear And Panic among people who have good reason to be concerned for their lives. However we have not seen evidence of large Scale Loss of life. We have not had casualties among american troops. They have regained control of the airport in kabul. And the question is can they ramp up those evacuations over the next couple of weeks. 6,000 out so far according to the White House, something on the order of 60,000 to go. Its a very difficult challenge especially when youre dependent on cooperation from the taliban who are untrustworthy. The White House says they have some leverage, financial and otherwise, over the taliban so theyll try to sustain that. But the question is whether or not they can. And that test is still in front of us. As you indicated, President Biden said he was not going to be bound by that August 31 deadline if there are still american citizens who they have not yet gotten out. He said hell extend the deadline to get out if american citizens still havent been evacuated. What about all the afghans who helped u. S. Forces, john, for so many years . Thats a very good question, and if many of those are left behind and suffer adverse consequences from the taliban, that will be a stain, a mark of failure for the withdrawal, no question about it. The president was a little equivocal on whether or not he would embrace the afghan allies in the extension of that deadline, he sort of suggested he would but make it conditional. Well have to see how quickly they can round up some of those people, they say theyre processing 500 people an hour into the Kabul Airport but many of those are far from the airport who have to get to the airport. Its not clear that they can. The taliban said they would give safe passage but the proof will be in the results. Absolutely. Kirsten, if biden thought this withdrawal was going to be chaotic, he never really indicated that to the american people, quite the opposite. This is what he said, and then well talk. Well do it responsibly, deliberately and safely. Its a rational drawdown with our allies and its making so theres nothing unusual about it. The drawdown is proceeding in a secure and orderly way, prioritizing the safety of our troops as they depart. There is going to be no circumstance where youll see people being lifted off the roof of an embassy of the united states from afghanistan. So listen. Hes always said that hes going to be straightforward with the american people and not sugarcoat things. What happened here, kirsten . Well, i mean, there are some pretty arresting and alarming images coming out, when he says were not going to see people being airlifted, we are seeing people desperate, chasing airplanes to get out of the country. You can argue about whether or not they should have anticipated this or not. But the point is this is happening and i think it would be better if he just would acknowledge that it is happening, and that i think that he hasnt been committed enough and maybe its just a matter of language and he needs to come back and commit to it, but i think he needs to be more explicit in committing to getting out all of our allies out of the region as quickly as possible. Anybody who has followed the taliban should understand exactly how evil they are and exactly what they will do to people who worked with the united states. And so i would say that they should dont try to process things over in afghanistan, just get them out and then process them here. We still have people in iraq who havent been able to get out. So this is a matter of, a, its a moral issue, and b, how can we ever expect people to help us moving forward when we are known to leave people behind, people who have risked their lives to help us in iraq, and now potentially in afghanistan . Thats a national Security Issue and its a moral issue. And so i think that that would be my one point. The other point i would say is, i think we tend to analyze these things in very binary ways, its very all or nothing. Either you can completely leave or you can completely stay. There was a middle ground here. You know, we could have pulled back in terms of aid, perhaps, in terms of, you know, the programs we were running. But we could have also left some troops there. If it meant to keep holding the taliban at bay, i think theres an argument to be made that would be in our national Security Interest and certainly in humanitarian interest. It was a relatively small number of troops. We have two groups of people fighting on these extremes rather than talking about wasnt there maybe a middle ground that could have been chosen. He was saying he was abiding Bit Agreement of his predecessor. He didnt need to do that. Right, that was my point. Kirsten, Mitch Mcconnell Wouldnt say whether biden should send more troops to kind of what we were saying, if he should send more troops to help americans get out of afghanistan. But this is what he told cbs. Watch this. The president should leave no american behind. Ill leave it up to him to figure out how to correct the mistake that he made. And of course hes saying that Joe Biden made a mistake, but he dodged talking about Trumps Role in this crisis. Does he have a point that biden is the one who needs to fix this mess . Well, biden is the president right now. At the same time i would say republicans should just sit down. You know, this is a problem that is not was not created by Joe Biden. This was a problem thats being cleaned up by Joe Biden. And so, yes, he is responsible for it, but i dont think the Peanut Gallery should be the one, the republicans who did not deal with this problem and made it worse, and then of course Donald Trump reached this agreement that theyre now all trying to pretend didnt happen with the taliban. So i think that they should yeah, i think they should step back and stop acting like theyre experts on this issue, and Joe Biden hopefully can selfcorrect. I think that i dont know why he felt bound to move forward with an agreement that was reached by Donald Trump. That makes no sense to me. Thank you both, appreciate it. Now i want to turn to the chaos and the violence at the Kabul Airport as people desperately tried to flee afghanistan. Cnn chief foreign correspondent Clarissa Ward is in kabul with the story. Reporter americas last foothold in afghanistan is now guarded by the taliban. You see the taliban all over, they wont allow anyone. Reporter weve come to kabuls airport to see the gauntlet people must pass through to fly out. You can hear gunshots every couple of minutes. Cnn, cnn, cnn. Reporter quickly we are accosted by an angry taliban fighter. Can i ask you a question . [ sound of gunfire ] excuse me. Cover my face . Cover. Okay. Ill cover my face. What is this . He told me to cover my face. But he doesnt want to comment on that truncheon hes carrying. Reporter the fighter tells us these scenes are the fault of america. The cause of all this is america in afghanistan. Look at these people, he says. America is really acting unfairly towards them. Why are they lying and telling them they can go to america . Why dont they let them stay and help their country . He doesnt want to talk to you. Reporter we keep walking to avoid confrontation. A man follows us, asking for advice. How we can enter the base. Reporter how you can enter the base . Yes. Reporter do you have paperwork to enter . Yes. Reporter she me. Theyre calling me. Reporter was this an italian company . Yeah, italian company. Reporter yes. Thank you. Reporter others crowd around to show their documents. You were a translator . Yes. Reporter they all worked with americans as translators, for the americans, and they cant get into that airport. The taliban fighters are a little upset with us. We decide to leave and head for our car. [ sound of gunfire ] the fighter takes the safety off his ak47 and pushes through the crowd. Stay behind him, stay behind him. Reporter you can see some of these taliban fighters are hopped up on adrenaline or i dont know what. Its a very dicey situation. Suddenly two other taliban charge towards us. Reporter you can see some of these taliban fighters are hopped up on adrenaline or i dont know what. Its a very dicey situation. Suddenly two other taliban charge towards us. You can see their Rifle Butt raised to strike Producer Brent swayles. When the fighters are told we have permission to report, they lower their weapons and let us pass. Reporter okay, now were going. Get in the car. Don, i should emphasize while the airport has been exceptionally chaotic, most of the city has been relatively calm. Again today, we saw people starting to come out onto the streets, stores were open, traffic was moving, Traffic Policemen were out, government workers. The taliban understands that this is their moment, that the world is watching, and that they need to provide some semblance of Law And Order which makes those images from the airport all the more stark. And of course the real worry now is that the airport, don, is becoming like a powder keg, and just one incident, one wrong move, could risk everything exploding into a much more serious conflagration, don. Clarissa ward in kabul, afghanistan, Thank You very much, clarissa. Joining me now, Fareed Zakaria, host of cnns Fareed Zakaria gps. Fareed, you just saw this powerful story about whats unfolding on the ground there. The president is saying its not a failure. What do you think . I think you put it very well, don. The way the president described it in the last three months was completely different from what unfolded. Obviously its a screwup. I think rather than trying to justify the unjustifiable, what the administration should do is try to get phase 2 of this withdrawal right. They botched phase 1. There is simply no other way to describe it. There was no contingency planning. There did not seem to be a process they should have preplanned so that the roads were secure, access to the airport was secure, lists of applicants were prepared. If they knew these people were going to be evacuated, they now say we knew we wanted to evacuate but we didnt want to start evacuating for the last few months because we didnt have a panic. You could have had visas, you could have had a plan, that all could have been in place. Obviously that didnt happen. Phase 1 was a failure. Phase 2 could be a success if they work on the evacuation not just of the americans, obviously Thats Priority Number one, but of the afghans. Your guest said it very well, this is not a humanitarian or moral issue. Of course it is that, but its way beyond that. How are you going to get people in taiwan, people in ukraine, people in every place that you are fighting terrorists, to work with americans if they think that theyre going to be left hanging out to dry when the americans decide to leave . Look, obvious question, fareed. After 20 years of war, did you ever think that we would be in a situation where the united states was forced to rely on the taliban to evacuate people . No. Because i thought we had established enough of a Security Presence in afghanistan that even if we left, we would be able to leave in a way where we would secure the airport, secure certain roads, secure certain perimeters. And its puzzling and bewildering. Frankly the military collapse of the Afghan Army is a historic collapse that needs to be studied and examined. People used to talk about the fall of france, france fell to hitlers armies in 1940. That was about six weeks. This was about six days. Its breathtaking. And it suggests, again, that the taliban had made deals with all these groups, with all these Afghan Army contingents in various towns and provinces and afghanistan, because the taliban would enter, very quickly, almost instantly, the army would surrender and would hand over its weapons, meaning were not going to try to do any kind of new operation, regroup, nothing. Its over. Did that all happen entirely spontaneously or were these a series of deals that had been made over the last two years . And if the latter, how come we didnt know anything about it . His message, the president s message to u. S. Allies has been, america is back. He repeated it on almost every stop of his first foreign trip. What do you think those allies are thinking right now, fareed . We know, the person who is going to succeed Anglo America most likely is the chancellor of germany, who called this the biggest crisis for nato since its founding. The brits, who are visibly upset, they rarely criticize washington, theyre openly criticizing washington. The germans are doing the same. Youre hearing it from nato members. Look, nobody very few people at that level particularly are contesting the basic decision that the united states had to end a 20year War In Afghanistan that frankly was not working. The taliban we were not able to defeat the taliban. The taliban was resurgent over the last several years. But the manner in which it was done seems extraordinarily poorly planned. And the way in which, frankly, the president is defending it is cavalier and callous. He should know better. It sends a message that he doesnt seem to care about the humanitarian crisis, he doesnt seem to care about the tens of thousands of afghans who put their lives on the line to work and fight with the americans. And as i say, what signal are you sending to every Human Being who the united states is going to try to recruit . The united states is going to have to recruit many, many people in, you know, asia, in the middle east, in europe, to work with us. What are you saying to those people . Fareed, i always enjoy your perspective, youre so right, most of the time, 99. 9 of the time. Fareed, Thank You, sir, i really appreciate you joining us. For more with fareed, tune in to Fareed Zakaria gps right here on cnn. Thousands of afghans are in mortal danger now because of what they have done for our country. And its despicable that some on the right are demonizing them now. We intend to evacuate those who have been supporting us for years and were not going to leave them behind and well get out as many as possible. Did you know Prilosec Otc can stop frequent heartburn before it begins . Heartburn happens when Stomach Acid refluxes into the esophagus. Prilosec otc uses a unique Delayedrelease Formula that helps it pass through the tough Stomach Acid. 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Listen to some of the toprated personalities over at the fox propaganda network. If history is any guide, and its always a guide, we will see many refugees from afghanistan resettle in our country in coming months, probably in your neighborhood. And over the next decade that number may swell to the millions. So first we invade and then were invaded. Is it really our responsibility to welcome potentially thousands of unvetted refugees from afghanistan . Weve heard, we promised them. Who did . Did you . Okay. And then theres a former Trump Adviser, Steve Cortes, tweeting, raise your hand if you want this Plane Landing in your town. Here so discuss, cnn national Security Analyst Juliette kayyem, and craig whitlock, author of the afghanistan papers a secret history of the war. Im so glad to have both of you on this evening, Thank You so much. Juliette, it didnt take long for the antiimmigrant fox hosts to portray people in crisis as invaders, stoking fear. They have no shame. No. And actually the history that they relate is actually quite wrong. The integration of refugees in particular has been a great american success story. Were actually quite good at it here in america. 50,000 afghan refugees in a nation of over 300 Million is not even a drop in the bucket. But i think that they are presenting a fiction also about the process. So people should understand the process. These are afghans who have applied through the Department Of Defense program. They are then approved because someone in the Department Of Defense says yes, they helped us. Then it goes to the Department Of State for the visa processing. Then theyre flown over. The department of Homeland Security has a rigorous immigration review. Then they are sent to nonprofits and volunteers who will take them in and then that process is thoroughly vetted for months and years to come. So the idea that were like flopping them into american cities shows their ignorance. This is all a Scare Tactic to deflect from a larger discussion that they basically to just be racist, lets be clear, i dont know why i wasnt going to say that word. But theyre showing people who jumped on the military planes, that these people are going to somehow end up in communities in america and they have been unvetted. Is there any truth to that . No. In other words, the only thing that has changed is both the speed of the vetting and sometimes the vetting is taking place wherever the plane is landing. But all of these people are known. Let me just explain, i know everyone is very emotional about those pictures this weekend and what we saw. The reason why the airport had to be closed was because we lost control of the airport. The people that you saw running towards the airplane were likely not the people that were being processed through a more formal process. You have this horrible everyone is very upset and i recognize that. Part of whats happening is, stabilize the airport, get a process moving. Its chaotic, it looks horrible, its tragic, but this is what happens when we lose a war. I want to bring in craig, we did make a commitment to people who helped u. S. Forces. So talk about what theyve done for our military. I mean, many veterans credit them with saving american lives. Youre right about that, don. A lot of the advocates to bring the afghans to the united states and resettle them somewhere safe are military veterans who served with them in afghanistan, who relied on them as interpreters predominantly but also all sorts of help during the last 20 years. There is an awful lot of people in afghanistan who cast their lot with the united states. And there are a lot of Military Personnel in the united states, current active duty and veterans, who do feel an obligation to take care of those folks. What should people know before making some sort of judgment about these people or, you know, demonizing them in any way, craig . Look, this is a very fluid, chaotic situation there. And the taliban, you have to remember, has just a long record of brutality, particularly taking it out on religious minorities. The shia in afghanistan, the hazara ethnic group. There are a lot of people with good reason to have fear for their lives from the taliban. Its across the board that way. And now that the taliban actually controls the entire country, theyre more powerful now than they were back in 2001. At that point, when we invaded, the taliban controlled most of the country but not all of it. So for the taliban, theyre better off now than they were 20 years ago. So i think in afghanistan, people who remember those dark days when the taliban ran the government, theyre very scared, and understandably so. Listen, i just want to say, craig has a book called the afghanistan papers a secret history of the war. You should all check it out. Thank you very much for that, craig. After the former Trump Adviser Steve Cortes tweeted this, his tweet was inundated with responses of people saying that they would gladly welcome these afghans into their communities. Probably something that he did not expect. And good for the folks who said they would welcome them in. Well be right back. The rollout of Booster Shots for fully vaccinated adults here in the u. S. Is set to start september 20th. Eight months after your second shot, get a booster shot. These Booster Shots are free. Is yes. Great. How . Uhhh. How long does Credit Repair take . I dont know, like 10 years. What . Are you insane . Whats a good Credit Score . Go. 600. Maybe if youre trying to pay thousands extra in interest rates. Cut the confusion, get started with a free Credit Evaluation at creditrepair. Com. 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And i think whats happened with Ron Desantis is, its almost, you know, its almost something that they inherited from Donald Trump, which is that when you make a mistake, you double down. You dont admit the mistake. You dont ask for forgiveness. You dont say you regret it. Look, were seeing in arkansas, for example, the republican governor there, asa hutchinson, saying he regrets having signed a law banning mask mandates, because of the Delta Variant. The Delta Variant is Something Nobody was expecting, nobody was predicting. So i think it gives him a reason to change his rhetoric, change his course of action. But because of what trump supporters and the people hes trying to play to in the base, Ron Desantis, what they want is him to continue the same way, double down on his mistake. He wont admit the mistake. And don, let me tell you this. Between my husband and i, there are nine children under the age of 12 in our family and one on the way. It is criminal, what these parents are living under. These children are not republicans or democrats. They are schoolchildren. They are floridas children. For Ron Desantis to be Playing Dictator With School Boards and teachers and superintendents, it is so anticonservative. And scott knows this. Before we run out of time, i need to scott in. Republicans believe in local control. Scott, go for it, please, we dont have that much time. Yeah, i tend to think that the local School Boards and superintendents are the best equipped to make decisions. Ive got four kids in three schools, im dealing with a lot of different circumstances. I would trust the people running those schools more than a governor, whether thats a republican or a democrat governor, to make the right decisions. So i dont like the top down mandates. I also dont like prohibiting a local School Doing what it things is right for that school in that community. I would also say this. All the parents i know, their Number One overriding issue, don, is weve got to keep the schools open, and whatever we have to do to keep the schools open, because everybody knows the damage that was done when the schools were closed. And, you know, im a conservative, i tend to resist mandates. If wearing a mask is the price of admission to keep the schools open, i want to keep the schools open, because i think closing them again would be a huge disservice to our children. Just real quickly, the biggest district in the state, right, the miamidade school board, saying today theyre going to enforce masks even after the State Board voted to punish other districts for just that. I mean, Ron Desantis, let me give his response, he says forced masking of all schoolchildren is not consistent with protecting parents rights to make Health And Education decisions for their own children. I mean, come on, scott, i think you answered it in your previous answer, but its ridiculous. Yeah, my general view is that the best answer here is to let these local School Districts do whats best. Again, there may be School Districts,they dont need to do it, and there may be places where they do. Republican orthodoxy for my entire career has been local control, especially in schooling, is the best control. And i tend to think consistency here would be good. So the president of the united states said earlier today that he believes that politicians should get out of the way, that theyre actually putting politics ahead of childrens lives, and he is looking for the possibility to see if the government can step in, if Theres Anything legally he can do. Ana, ill give you the last word, is that the right way to go . Look, if youve got a governor who is threatening. Is withholding funds and the federal government wants to come in and say we will make up those funds, think that is the right way to go. 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