Tonight. Lets go outfront. And good evening. Im erin burnett. Outfront Tonight Damming Test former prosecutor that wouldnt back trumps Big Lie according today New York times reporting tonight. You may not know his name but his story is important and tonight, he is providing a key piece of evidence in proving the former president staged a Coup Attempt in the united states. Let me introduce you to him. You see him on your screen, b. J. Pak. He reportedly spent three hours with lawmakers and staff today. Cnn learning he told the Senate Judiciary Committee he quit suddenly on January 4th because he got World Trump would fire him, wanted him gone. The time Reporting Pak told the committee he would be fired for not backing trumps Election Fraud claims. So firing someone specifically because they refuse to back the Big Lie. Now, according to The Times pak revealed State Officials and the fbi vetted What Trump was claiming, right . They vetted the stuff he kept going on and saying about a rigged election and never found any evidence to support the Wild Claims Trump was pushing publicly and privately about georgia. Here is just a little taste of the Conspiracy Theories. Remember georgia when they said we had a big flood . We had a Pipeline Break, major water Pipeline Break . Guess what . There was no pipeline. That was the people they took all of the ballots, all the biden ballots under the table with the black dress and took them and started shoving them into a machine. In georgia the Secretary Of State began illegally processing ballots before election day. So dead people voted and i think the number is in the close to 5,000 people. Just to be very clear, all of this is completely false. Okay . And pak refused to buy into it because he also knew it was false. And because of that, he had a target on his back. Remember What Trump said to the Georgia Secretary of State Brad Wra Wrathens Beggar . This is on January 2nd two days before pak resigned. I mean, look, youd have to be a child to think anything other than that, just a child. You have your never trumper u. S. Attorney there just to be clear when hes calling pak a never trumper, its important to put very important fact out there trump am appointed pak to the job. On the day of paks resignation, trump was actually in georgia and had this to say. There is no way we lost georgia. There is no way. Its a rigged election. Were still fighting. Youll see what happened. It wasnt rigged and trump lost but trump replaced pak with a much more friendly prosecutor from Southern Georgia named bobby christine. According to the atlanta journal constitution, christine donated 2800 to Trumps Reelection Campaign and described as someone who was quote absolutely devoted to trump. Manu raju is outfront live. What more are you learning what happened in that Interview Tonight with b. J. Pak . A source said pak testified for two to three and a half Hours Today and planned on resigning on January 20th but when he caught wind that he was going to be fired, he decided to quitterlier. Now i am told that he also believed that Donald Trump simply did not like him, did not think he was working hard enough and The New York Times reported also that he would not back trumps claims that the election was fraudulent In Someway in georgia. That being part of the reason why that he stepped aside but this is all part of the investigation that this committee is launching into interference of the Justice Department after november 3rd, efforts by Donald Trump some of his allies to try to urge the Justice Department to suggest State Legislatures and local officials that the states that bind one somehow had fraud Le Tallies and needed to be reviewed. Pak is one of three witnesses the committee interviewed so far and expect to interview more and want to talk to people such as the former white House Chief of Staff Mark meadows allegedly involved in the effort to pressure the Justice Department to intervene as well as some of the White House officials like the then white House Counsel providing more evidence what was happening behind the scenes and how one official, the former u. S. Attorney had concerns about what was happening and what Donald Trump was doing and ultimately decided to resign, erin . Manu, thank you very much. I want to go to richard. I know there are restrictions what you can tell us behind closed Doors Today but pak said he resigned because he found out trump would fire him for pushing the Big Lie and according to The New York Times, that was specifically the reason that trump Wanted To Fire Pak for refusing to say there was wide Spread Voter Fraud in georgia. Is that why pak resigned . Sitting through that Interview Today very extensive and intensive process. My impression is b. J. Pak was telling the truth and forthright and forthcoming and appeared voluntarily. Second, my strong feeling was, as well, that he believed in the Rule Of Law and he stood up for it. He was the top federal prosecutor in atlanta, georgia, where Donald Trump was trying to say falsely there was corruption in the local election and Donald Trump would stop at nothing. He mounted a Pressure Campaign to break the Department Of Justice including top officials there and he continued that pattern even as it involved very improper pressure brought to bear seeking to overturn the election, to over throw democracy to enlist the Department Of Justice in the Big Lie and really corrupt and weaponize him. Let me ask you. I emphasize That Pak was appointed by trump in 2017, so then of course, he wants to fire him buecause he wont Support Hm in the big Lie Ande ehes some never trumper. Did you learn anything from Paks Interview that you were not previously aware of . I know as a former united States Attorney myself, as well as a State Attorney General for some 20 years in connecticut that an investigation a little bit like piecing together a moe si mosaic. There are details that come to the floor that arent surprising but important. It produces important information but leads to additional witnesses and we know also that there is a pattern here. Trump is surrounding himself who people who did his bidding and enable him to launch these kinds of improper Pressure Campaigns. So let me ask you in terms of other people you want to talk to. The chairman of your committee Dirk Du Dick Durban wants to interview mark meadows. Do you have any Indication Meadows would speak to the committee . Would you subpoena him . Do you believe hell be forthright . Weve already asked some potential witnesses to come before us like Jeff Clark who did trumps bidding unlike other top officials. We have no guarantee they will appear. Our Subpoena Powers may be somewhat limited as a practical matter. I wish i could talk more about the details of what weve seen and heard. Youre absolutely right, Dick Durban as chairman will make the call whether to seek Subpoena Power and what other witnesses will be called but there is plenty to do here and the american people deserve accountability. We need to know all of what happened so it doesnt happen again and so whatever happens in the legal courts, we know that there is some justice in the Court Of Public Opinion as people assess who aided and abetted Donald Trump in this extraordinary Pressure Campaign. So i want to ask you one more thing. The senate finally passed the bipartisan Infrastructure Bill overnight and i know youre now focused immediately that was the you got the bipartisan Infrastructure Bill and then well democrats will push for everything else they wanted via Reconciliation Majority only vote. 3. 5 trillion on that right now. So you just need a Marjority Bu that means you need everybody and hours after voting to do this, Joe Mansion said the Price Tag is high the 3. 5 trillion. Are you open to lowering it if thats what it takes to get him on board or do you think hell change his mind . We all have to come together. Legislating is the art of the possible. The perfect cant be the enemy of the good, and what really impresses me and so excites and inspires me having been here for ten years and watched a lot of dysfunction is how weve come together. Now the first measure was bipartisan and were moving on to assess the Human Needs and i think we can come together. I think its an exciting, extraordinary once in a generation opportunity. We all have that sense about it. Senator, appreciate your time, thank you. I want to go to laura coats, a former federal prosecutor. Based on what senator described and what b. J. Pak said in the interview, how important is what he said in determining whether trump committed a crime in his attempts to overturn the election . Its going to be very important to give the context as he eluded to, the idea of the why. Why did he on his own decide to resign . It an autonomous decision or the Writing On The Wall as a result of threatening and intimidating behavior. What did he think . Why did he think he would be fired . Were the conversations that ensued there. The u. S. Attorney started with the pleasure of the president of the united states and political appointees meaning that once the president of the united states no longer wants him to be in office, they can in fact be removed but what prompted the decision to be removed and why there was the notion of removing him or why there is an illusion he might be fired in some respect will be critical and if its because he did not go along with a scheme that falls under an umbrella of trying to interfere with the peoples right to a free and fair election or try to conspire In Someway to conjure up votes or defraud the public In Someway, well, that will be very, very telling about what sort of ramifications there will be going forward. So, you know, were also learning tonight that a federal judge is allowing Defamation Lawsuits against three Trump Confidents to go forward. All three are being sued for billions of dollars by diminon voting systems. They accused of Election Fraud with the voting machines. How important is this ruling . I did speak with the Partner Megan Myer about this who is a Lead Attorney on my show earlier today and its so telling. This is a very, very serious set of litigations and lawsuits because defamation essentially says the person knowingly made false statements, that there was actual malice involved they alleged and the statements werent made based on some profound understanding or that they really believed it but because it was made to injure reputation, to harm the goodwill, to harm the profits of the company to make this part of the notion of the Big Lie and the promotion of it and so what is so important here is that daminon had to be trust into the limelight with a host of Conspiracy Theories that seems to have legs on a variety of networks and forced to defend that, in terms of Death Threats among employees but fighting against the notion of Conspiracy Theories themselves. The judge says based on your motions to dismiss and say you have no reason to bring it, the judge is saying actually its the defamation claims themselves that have legs. This is powerful and a real warning to any Company Or Enterprise saying look, we can continue to make these 125i789s. Theyre on notice and have been. All right. Laura, thank you very much. Next, the Breaking News, the fda expected to green Light Covid Booster shots for some people within the next 48 hours, right . Weeks after israel had already said it was necessary. Details just ahead. Plus, the White House firing back at Ron Desantis Tonight who claims he did not know his state got hundreds of ventilators from the federal government. We dont send ventilators to states without their interest in receiving the ventilators. New Intelligence Assessment warns Afghanistans Capital could collapse in weeks as the taliban makes alarming gains. Were live on the ground tonight. 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Weve known for awhile that it appears the efficacy of the mnra vaccine, over six months the effectiveness of the Vaccine Begans begins to Wayne A Little Bit but the vaccines remain super effective at preventing severe illness that would require hospitalization or death. Were starting to see a decline in the efficacy of these vaccines to prevent symptomatic illness. This is the first group of people who would be boosted would be the immune compromised. The u. S. Has 3 , maybe up to 10 Million People Organ Transplant recipients, cancer patients, they will be first. I think the second group should actually be Health Care workers. Many of the Health Care workers interesting were vaccinated eight months ago. I was vaccinated on december 17th. So i think that we should in setting of a surging Delta Variant, i think Health Care workers should probably be the next group. So thats interesting. Okay. But the Surgeon General you heard two weeks ago he said the data didnt suggest the need for Booster Shots at this time. But the reality, of course, dr. Reiner is israel said it was needed at that time and france said it was needed at that time and they it feels that its kind of they have been slow. Okay . It feels they have been slow. What do you think really is going on . I think messaging has been i think messages has been poor. I think Cdc And Fda and administration are trying to get the Science Right but struggled to get the messaging right. What the message should have been at the beginning of the summer when we saw israelis reported a decline in efficacy for the Pfizer Vaccine to 64 , that the Cdc And Fda should have said, you know, well probably have to boost. Pfizer came out with compelling data showing good news that a third dose of the Pfizer Vaccine could increase the amount of Neutralizing Antibodies 5 to 10 . We have a fix for this. The public should have been told explicitly, well put together a plan to boost the public. There is News Today that suggestions that the cdc thinks that about A Million people have sort of illicitly gotten a boost already this summer. So what that tells me is that there is a lot of interest in the public in doing this and if you tell the public they need to be boosted, it will be pretty well accepted. Right. Thats true. Of course, you want to lead not follow. It comes as Governor Gavin Newsom in california said that the state would become the first to mandate that all teachers and School Staff be vaccinated. All right . Thats something many people in this country would celebrate but in texas, the Governor Greg Abbott files a petition to block an Executive Order in Dallas County just to require masks in certain places including schools, and the Governor Abbott just tweeted quote any school district, Public University of local Government Official that decides to defy ga 38 which prohibits government entities from mandating masks will be taken to court. The path forward relies on personal responsibility, not government mandates. What do you say to someone like Governor Abbott . So, Governor Abbott should be a problem solver, not a problem creator. Look, well put, you know, millions of children in this country under the age of 12 all of whom are susceptible to infection now with a much more vir virulent, much more transmissible virus. Well put the kids in an enclosed space and the governor of texas and florida dont think we need to maximize the protection for these children. The governor of california now gets it. What hes saying is that all teachers will need to be vaccinated. What that acknowledges that if were going to bring our kids into the school rooms, we need to maximize how we protect them and by making sure that the teacher in the room is not infectious. That goes a long way. All right. Dr. Reiner, thank you very much. My pleasure. Another state that may have come to mind when i mentioned the Mask Battle is florida. The battle over masks is not letting up there where President Biden and Governor Desantis are on a collision course. Leyla santiago is outfront. Reporter Tonight A Showdown Over Public Health Taking place as florida governor Ron Desantis and President Joe Biden continue to disagree over the governors handling of the pandemic. There have been more than 140,000 Positive Covid cases in the state in the last seven days and out of the 15,000 people hospitalized, about 200 of them are children. The most recent back and forth over ventilators being sent to florida earlier this week as the States Hospitalization Rate as of monday stands at more than triple the national rate. Governor desantis claiming hes unaware of the request from his state. I would nhonestly doubt thats true. Reporter the White House says the Governors Office had to be aware. We dont send ventilators to states without their interest in receiving the ventilators. Why would you oppose receiving ventilators when you clearly need those in your state given the percentage of hospitalizations that are occur Income Florida . Reporter a Health Administration Official confirms 200 ventilators were sent to the state this week. The Governors Office told Cnn Today in part the first he had heard of it was that reporters question to him. I can also confirm that no one in the Executive Office of the governor was involved or aware of the request. And the battle over masks in schools playing out in at least three different florida counties. You got people like fauci saying he should be muzzled and you should be throwing masks on these 3 year old kids. It totally unacceptable. Reporter there is no change in the hospitalized pediatric patients that were covid positive and continues to threaten to withhold salaries from superintendents and School Board members that over ride his order that prohibits Mask Mandates in schools. Let me tell you this, if youre coming after the rights of parents in florida, im standing in your way. Reporter the White House is considering using federal funds to pay the salaries of those who desantis is threatening. Well look at whether or not there are any federal ways to at least get those local educators whole for whatever pay they lose, do what we can to help them. Reporter still, Governor Desantis insists he will not let the federal government get in his way over handling the pandemic in his state. Youre not going to help, at least get out of the way of the people trying to do the right thing. Why dont you get this border secure and until you do that, i dont want to hear a blip about covid from you. Reporter and erin, back to the Mask Mandates where governor Ron Desantis is really doubled down this week. Checked in with a few school the to see where they stand, if theyve started the School Year and how many kids are actually coming in with signatures from parents opting out. In orange county, roughly 4 of students had signatures from parents so they dont have to wear the mask and in broward, it was roughly 6 of students. All right. Thank you very much. I dont know whether thats higher or less high than i would have thought. Outfront next Senator Rand Paul suspended from youtube for comments about mask and calls it a badge of honor. What was so wrong about what Senator Paul said . 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Senator paul loves this and says its a badge of honor. I want to know because context does matter. These questions are important. Back in early 2020, obviously before the Delta Variant, dr. Fauci did say in an email the typical mask you buy in the drugstore is not really efi effective in keeping out virus which is small enough to pass through the material. Do you think this suspension, scott, would have happened if the video was from a democratic lawmaker . No, i dont, and this is what us conservatives are Bent Out Of Shape is double standards. Its not just the Fauci Email you referenced but other respected people other than Rand Paul who are democrats or affiliated with democrats who said Mich M Michael said when you look at the Cloth Pieces they have limited impact and told cnn on a later interview we know today many of the cloth coverings people wear are not very effective. Land Rand Paul is not on an island but hes hardly the only person raising these questions. Fowhy does somebody like omicha can say this and when Rand Paul does, hes banned from youtube. Interesting point. I want to ask about a possible reason. Paul, i want to give you a chance to respond because at one point Senator Paul did say in the video, not the part youtube says theyre banning him for believes n 95 masks do work and as scott points out, other medical experts including dr. Michael Oyster Holm are raising questions about Cloth Masks. We know today many of the Cloth Face coverings are not effective in the Virus Movement in or out. Its important to emphasize that masking does work and quality of Masks Matter. We should be wearing not a Cloth Mask but a threeply surgical mask. The quality does matter. If you get your hands on a Kn 95 Mask or n 95 mask, that will afford you a lot more protection. So paul, what do you say . Is it a case of Senator Paul says it so its different and he gets banned . Is he right to complain . All right. Sounds like Paul Cant hear me. Im going to ask him that question when we get him back. Scott, i want to follow up with you with the point they was going to make, which is there are possible reasons why youtube would pick on Senator Paul and not on dr. Oyster holm . Right . The primary one is that Senator Paul has Flouted Covid guidance frequently, right . Especially on masks as you and i both know. He showed up for work while he waited for what ended up being a positive Test Result in March 2020 and used the senate gym. He ended up having it. When he came back in may he refused to wear a mask and that refusal has been on display with the senator again and again and again, colleague after Colleague Maskless as they are masked up. With. We got a bunch of examples. He said it in this context and made views on masks overall extremely clear. Here he is. If youve had the disease or youve been vaccinated and youre several weeks out from the second dose, throw your mask away. There is no science to defend putting your kids in mask or parents wearing masks. No science whatsoever. So scott, thats the context for Senator Paul, right . And thats the context that doesnt exist for dr. Nguyen or Oyster Holm, does that matter . Well, it matters if you want to single out Rand Paul but if you want to talk about politicians in general, it should not matter and why you should err on the side of Free Speech. If you want to talk about consistency, how many democratic politicians imposed Mask Mandates and say im following the science and been caught at public Events Ocho R private ev flouting her own rules . Its happened in california and around the country. Rand paul is a politician. Has he done inconsistent things . Sure. Have democratic politicians done the same thing . Yes. If youre youtube and want to make that the reason you got to ban Rand Paul today you have to broaden that rule and say if i ban people that i consider to do hypocritical or inconsistent things, you have another kettle of fish you have to start banning. To me, thats why erring on the side of Free Speech is the answer and unfortunately, thats not the route they chose. Paul, i dont know if you could hear us. We couldnt hear you. But what is your response when you hear this . Do you think Senator Paul has a point, that its just a double standard or does the context of his ridicule of Masks Matter . He needs to stop whining and start worrying about public health. Hes got 7,394 people in his great common wealth of kentucky that died from covid. The Vaccine Rate in his commonwealth is lower than the national average. He should be preaching protection, prevention, wear a mask, get vaccinated. And instead, hes endangering the public health and violating the terms of service of a private company that is not a free Speech Issue because its not the government. He doesnt have a right to get on youtube any more that i have a right to get on cnn. Its a private company. If youtube wants to have him, they can, if they dont, they dont have to. This is very, very dangerous trying to tell people not to protect themselves and their neighbors and children. All right. Thank you both very much. I appreciate your time tonight. Next, weve got Arrest Warrants out right now for dozens of democrats in texas. House democrats who left the state. Remember that group to stop a Voting Bill from becoming law. One of them is my guest plus a new Intelligence Report Tonight warns Afghanistans Capital kabul could fall to the taliban tonight. Well take you live there next tonight. At usaa, weve been called too exclusive. Because we only serve those who honorably served. 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Com tonight, Arrest Warrants out for 51 Texas House democrats who fled the state last month to block an Elections Overhaul Bill that would add Me Restr new restrictions for voting. Two dozen remain out of the state but they can be hauled against their will back to the House Chamber to provide the Q Quaram to pass the bill. Appreciate your time. So representative goodwin, were showing your civil Arrest Warrant here. Well put it up on screen. This is real. There is a civil Arrest Warrant for you. There it is. Its signed. Youre almost daring Law Enforcement to compel your return to the house of course. You know, could they break down your door . They cant put you in shackled and drag you in or can they . Why are you so confident this wont happen to you . Elowell, it would be a reall bad look for them to break down my door and put handcuffs on me and drag me to the House Floor shows how extreme measures theyre willing to go to to force a vote on a very bad bill. You know, ive put a statement out saying when i would return to the House Floor for would be to protect the people of the state of texas. We need to work on covid. We need to work on the electrical grid and restore the defending for our legislature. Your Colleague Representative wu is granted Habeas Corpus that would force his return to the capital and he says that he and his lawyers are trying to get you and your 50 colleagues the same protections now. Will you ask for that protection . Yes. I have already and they have issued those. So we should be protected, as well. All right. So you say youre committed to continuing to breaking quarum and these Arrest Warrants are one example of the republicans denomination to pass the bill and they have the majority, they have the votes. You and your colleagues are basically staying away from the capital to prevent that from happening, right . Is your End Game here . Like i said, there is priorities that we would like for the republicans to focus on. Right now, our kids are about to go back to our schools without the ability to have protections. I have just tonight actually right now one of my Staff Members is at a School Board meeting where parents are showing up to ask that the school allow for a Mask Mandate to ensure the kids are protected. So in my mind, thats the Number One priority the governor keeps saying hes not going to allow this but weve had over 55,000, over 52,000 people die in the state of texas Of Covid and now theyre saying that the Delta Variant is worse for children. So thats our Number One priority. We really should be addressing that first and foremost and if he would say that thats his priority, hes willing to work with us and reach across the aisle, you know, some of us might be willing to come back. All right. Appreciate your time, thank you very much representative goodwin, thanks. Thank you. 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There were Afghan Forces there triing to repel taliban attacks coming under fire from snipers. That position is now completely under the control of the taliban. And that really is just a microcosm for you of a picture were seeing over and over again. A recent trip to ghazni another city already taken by the taliban. Theyve already taken a quarter of the provincial capitals. How can those gains be reversed if at all . That really does seem to be the question. President Biden Yesterday of course stood by his decision to withdraw u. S. Troops even tow the taliban is moving so much mer quickly than anybody pretty much anybody had anticipated. Heres President Biden. Afghan leaders have to come together. We lost thousands to Death And Injury thousands of american personnel. Theyve got to fight for themselves, fight for their nation. So clarissa, obviously if you had u. S. Troops there this would be different, but how different . Reporter i mean, listen, the u. S. Has been fighting a tough fight against the taliban for many years and i think theyd be the first to acknowledge the taliban in many ways is a formidable adversary. When you have people often very eager to die it makes it difficult on a certain level. Thats what were seeing with Afghan Forces. They dont simply have that same level of commitment to this cause. Theyre not willing to die for it in the same way. Now, you could make an argument if there was a minimal amount even of u. S. Forces still on the ground they would be able to contain some of the damage, some of the gains that have been done through this massive taliban offensive across the country. The question becomes, though, how sustainable a policy would that have been, erin. Clarissa, thank you very much from kabul tonight. Next nooushs governor with a message for anyone accused of unethical behavior in the Attorney General Sexual Harassment investigation. s unique. 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