Announcer this is cnn breaking news. Good morning to our viewers here in the United States and all around the world, im john berman. Side by side with Brianna Keilar this morning. It is wednesday, august 11th. We do begin with breaking news. It happened just moments ago in the u. S. Senate and is a big victory for President Biden and his domestic agenda. Topping off 24 hours of big 24 hour for this agenda, and a sign that maybe theres a possibility for the path that he has set going forward. After an all nighter, senate democrats approved a 3. 5 trillion Budget Resolution paving the way for democrats to pass the plan without republican support later this year. The measure passed 5049. It was a Partyline Vote following a lengthy series of amendments. The budget lays the Ground Work for a sweeping expansion of the countrys social Safety Net and would allow democrats to fund their battle the climate crisis, fund some healthcare initiatives, Education Measures and it would also increase taxes on wealthy americans and corporations. Senate republicans did block an attempt by democrats to advance voting Rights Legislation that they say is critical to count efforts by states to restrict states. Tet cruz called it a democratic Power Grab and federal takeover of elections. Joining us now to discuss John Avlon and sitting down at the desk moments ago i saw christine romans. How about that. I hope shes here to talk about this. Nice to see you here as well. I think we need to frame this last 24 hours the right way. What you had is a bipartisan Infrastructure Deal that Mitch Mcconnell and Elizabeth Warren both voted for. That is the Joe Biden Path forward that so many people said this doesnt exist. We dont have the possibility for bipartisanship in washington. That passed the u. S. Senate. Within the same 24hour period, you had democrats on their own passing this huge Budget Resolution. This doesnt make it law. This opens the door to basically write the legislation for 3. 5 trillion worth of new programs that people say christine romans, the most ambitious programs since the new deal. When you take these two things together, what you see is big movement in the biden agenda. Big time. You cannot really overstate what happened last night in terms of this administrations legacy. First of all, Biden Bet so much on the idea that there could be bipartisanship on something like infrastructure. He negotiated, did interpersonal diplomacy, was patient, determined 1 Trillion in infrastructure got done, at least through the senate. A decade ago republicans they killed a 60 Billion infrastructure bill. So this is a big deal in terms of americas economy, in terms of showing we can build again and in terms of bidens agenda. The budget they just opened the door to reconciliation is also a big deal for democrats in the biden administration. Totally different process, totally different agenda, rebuilding of democrats commitment to the social Safety Net and government programs but taken together, this is a momentous day for the biden agenda. Just one more thing here, this is the process that Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi told us that they were going to use to get all of this passed. And it hasnt been totally clear that it would work. So far its working. One of the necessary ingredients was to pass the senate bipartisan deal and necessary agreement was to get the democrats On Board to begin this 3. 5 trillion process. You didnt have this, youre not going to get any of it. Correct. So far its still working. I dont know if thats going to last, but so far on theyre on track. Also, if you have two bills, one that has the support of 19 republicans and the other one that has the support of none but then you have americans looking at how this affects them, i wonder if they really discern, christine, between these two things . When you look at assuming that everything moves forward, how are americans going to feel this day to day in their lives. Theyre different but absolutely related. This infrastructure bill, 550 Billion of new spending. This is an Intelligence Test that congress likely just passed, right . Because investing in your infrastructure is really easy, should be easy to do and they havent been able to do it. When you have fewer potholes on your road, commute is easier, all these things are incredibly important, high Speed Internet for the entire country, these are investments that will matter to people. Now the bigger 3. 5 trillion package, there are things in there for everyone prek, universal prek, any young family will feel this, people on medicare, medicare recipients you would have dental, you would have other advantages that they dont currently have, many dont have now. So it touches just about every single aspect of an american familys life, this is what they want to do would and thats what the White House is going to have to sell and democrats will have to sell. The part of this that we dont know is how the senate which i guess is now on recess until September 13th wouldnt that nice, a monthlong vacation, a unicorn. The house is out for a week or so. But the trick here not with the bipartisan deal but this 3. 5 trillion plan is how does Nancy Pelosi really and how does the senate on their own put together a plan that Nancy Pelosi can get progressives On Board in the u. S. House and that Chuck Schumer can get Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema On Board with in the senate. Im not sure i know what that sweet spot is. I suppose the question is there a sweet spot . There is a sweet spot. This is the art of governing. This is the herding of cats, the making of sausage, giving its democrats negotiating between themselves, the a. O. C. S and Joe Manchins of the world, this is too big a deal for the democrats to zru up. Theyre capable of. But this is a big deal and they will find a way to move this forward. Pelosi says i have to pump the brakes on passing Infrastructure Tomorrow which is not going to satisfy some folks, the ball is in the democrats court right now. And they will find a way to have something resembling common ground for all the squabbling w. Great to see you both here. Infrastructure, Intelligence Test. It is affirming, though, it is good to see, right, that they can pass something substantive . Yesterday you heard the president say everyone said i couldnt do this. Were doing. Were doing this. Were going to get this done. Credit where credit is due. Developing overnight, truth hurts. At least it hurt senator Rand Paul. The kentucky republican says things that are not true, which is bad enough, but he also says things that can be deadly. This morning, there are consequences. Youtube has suspended paul for posting a video replete with misinformation. The truth is, the truth, is that masks work to slow the spread of coronavirus. The lie is they are ineffective. Thats what he said. And hes now been blocked by youtube for seven days for spreading that nonsense. Came within 24 hours of within twitter banned Marjorie Taylor Greene for lying act vaccines. It is revealing, right, one can choose to work to fight to overcome this pandemic or it seems you can choose option b, as Paul And Greene have. Meanwhile, florida and texas are now seeking help from other states and the federal government to fight deadly covid surges, this as the republican governors are trying to restrict the freedom of towns and schools from making their own decisions about how to protect children. Both states now have more minors, kids, hospitalized than ever before. And in texas, Governor Abbott is requesting help from out of State Nurses and delaying elective procedures to deal with an overwhelming surge in cases there. Health official says only 329 icu beds are available in the entire state. And that includes just 27 in the Houston Area where there are 7 Million people. A source is telling cnn that the federal government has recently sent hundreds of ventilators to florida, remarkably governor Desantis Claims to knowing in about that. Whitney wild joins us more on Rand Paul youtubes suspension. This is going to punctuate the fact that he at this one specific time is putting out a lot of misinformation, but that he has a pattern of it as well, whitney. Absolutely. This is another example of what a lot of people have been calling for is the Social Media sites to take on more responsibility for perpetuating misinformation. So now theyre taking a more hard Line Approach just getting rid of this information when they see it. Rand paul is the latest example of that. The youtube gave the kentucky senator his first strike which prevents him from up loading any new videos on the platform for seven days as you mention before. A spokesperson for youtube said that they made the decision after a video he posted to his Channel Tuesday included multiple statements contradicting health authorities. We dont want to give too much oxygen to misinformation, use out of context for people to hear a little bit of it, but for context in this situation, i think its important you guys hear this. So according to spokesperson, Senator Paul falsely said, quote, trying to shape human behavior isnt the same as following the actual science which tells us Cloth Masks dont work. The reality is Public Health experts agree. Cloth masks offer at least some protection against the virus. Still, Senator Paul took to twitter to voice his frustrations calling the suspension a badge of honor and adding that left wing cretens at youtube banning me for a Video Saying Clothe masks dont work from peer articles. This comes right after congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene was suspended from Twitter Yesterday for falsely claiming that vaccines are failing and ineffective. Both twitter and youtube say suspensions are consistent with each companys policy. Anybody using them should know that. Those are readily available for anybody including Senator Paul and congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene available for their perusing if they should choose to do so. For Rand Paul, though, one more strike would mean an additional ban for two more weeks. Two more strikes could result in a permanent ban, brianna. Whitney, thank you for that. Whitney wild. New information just into cnn about how parents feel about masks and vaccines. And its pretty revealing. Ive been pouring over the numbers, harry. Ive been pouring over them. What are you talking about . I saw the fact that there were numbers. You know what they mean. Lets talk about this. Harry enten is here with me. Mask requirements, how do parents actually feel . They like them. They like them. Overall, should require mask wearing at school for unmasked schools and students, 63 support it. 36 dont support it. Democrats, like, this is a huge partisan split, 88 support versus republicans just 31 . But still 31 of republicans thats actually a fairly healthy share. We talk about the partisan divide in the u. S. , 31 among republicans is a higher number that i expected to see there. Thats right. This is large for republicans but overall the key picture here, 63 of americans overall support it. These are the numbers i actually want help understanding. Its a different story when it comes to Vaccine Requirements, harry . Yeah, thats right. Of course, remember you cant give vaccines yet to those under 12. But if you look here, again, require Covid19 Student vaccinations at your childs school, this is among parents of age 12 to 17 years old. Here what we find is something different. Only 42 of americans support that. So a Mask Requirement in students schools, parents support that but when it comes to Vaccine Requirements for students, parents do not support that. Democrats here, look, plurality, 66 , clearly in favor but not anywhere near as where we saw masks 88 . Republicans it was 31 supported masks for them. But look at that, just 13 on vaccines. One of my questions was, this is parents of kids 12 to 17 for whom there is Emergency Use Authorization already. It wouldnt have surprised me if there were parents of kids younger than 12 who didnt have an answer yet because they havent been approved in any way. This is interesting for parents whom the vaccines are available right now, what do we know about where kids are getting sick. Yeah. When were looking at that partisan divide, whether we should have masks or vaccines and see that republicans are far less in favor of them, this is the type of chart that worries me. This is coronavirus hospitalizations per 1 Million residents under the age 18. The green is the trump states. Look at this per 1 Million. Highest of the pandemic so far. So high up its blasting through my key right here. The biden states actually fairly steady, right . But in the trump states what weve been seeing in the south, right, the hospitalizations really growing very, very high among everybody. That is being translated into Youth Hospitalizations as well where were now at the highest point in the pandemic. Thats interesting. The highest point in the pandemic for hospitalizations in those states that voted for Donald Trump. What about vaccinations . Yeah. One of the things ill also point out is if you look right now children with at least one covid dose, those under the age of 12, nothing, nothing. But if you look here, age 12 to 17, the biden states, look how many more under the age of 18, 12 to 17 have vaccines. About 52 in the Donald Trump state, its only about 36 . And when i will point out to you, john, so important, is remember last year there really werent that many kids in school, right . What we saw was or will your child be all in person . According to that Kaiser Poll last year, it was just 24 age 5 to 11. Age 12 to 17 just 17 . Look at that now, vast majority are expecting their kids to be school, which is a good thing, kids learn better in school. We better figure out a way to keep the kids safe because theyll be able to spread the virus between each other if they dont. I was talking to a doctor in louisiana who has seen more kids hospitalized with covid ever before. 0, 0 vaccinated patients. 12 to 17yearolds. So No One who has been vaccinated is coming into the hospital, at least in this hospital. So, there is one path to keep your kids safe. There is one path if you have a kid 12 to 17, get that kid vaccinated because there will be a lot of kids in school together to help keep them safe. Thank you. Thank you. Brianna . The back and forth over masks in schools continues, my next guests have been working with North Carolina schools consisting of more than 1 Million students and staff members to study the spread of coronavirus and the efficacy of Mitigation Measures in schools. And what they found is overwhelming evidence that masks work there. They write the New York times, quote, although vaccination is the best way to prevent covid19, Universal Masking is a close second. And with masking in place, in School Learning is safe and more effective than remote instruction regardless of Community Rates of infection. Those researchers are with us now. We have dr. Ka knee sha zimmerman, associate professor of pediatrics at the Duke University School of medicine and a pediatric infectious Disease Specialist at duke health. I have to thank you both for being with us this morning. And first to you, dr. Zimmerman, you know, what you find in this study is fascinating. Tell us what you found in North Carolina and then looking at other states about the effectiveness of masks in schools. Absolutely. Thank you so much. So we studied, as you mentioned, over 1 Million students and staff here in North Carolina. More than 7,000 people came into the buildings with covid19. We also looked at those who were quarantined, more than 40,000 students and staff required quarantine because of close contact with those 7,000 students and staff. But we only identified about 363 secondary infections. That means of those who were quarantined, very few, less than 1 were actually getting infected. This has been consistent with our prior data here in North Carolina, during the Community Surge and as well as in places like utah, wisconsin, and st. Louis as well. So, theres been consistency in the data that masks can be effective in helps to prevent spread of covid19. So you know, dr. Benjamin, its pretty clear and its not it shouldnt be controversial but it is, you say kids suffer if they go to school without masks and if they dont go to school. I think certainly that if they dont go to school they suffer. We can all agree on that. But what about parents whose kids are going to school in a place where there is not a Mask Mandate . What do they need to do . Sure. The most important thing for them to do if their children are 12 and older is for them to be vaccinated as you all just covered. The second item for parents to do is to advocate for appropriate Quarantine Policies when children are exposed. And for them to advocate for transparency for School Districts to report how many people are being infected. Weve seen problems with Government Agencies obscuring how many people are truly infected and the consequences of poor Public Health policies and schools that dont have Mask Mandates should be held accountable when they put children at risk, which they clearly are doing. They can mask their own children and they can advocate for the data from the schools to be seen not only publicly but by trusted third parties. So theres sort of a work around is what youre saying as parents are obviously concerned if there arent masks. Dr. Zimmerman, i do think there are a lot of parents who are hoping that not only can their kids go back to school, but that they might be able to participate in fall sports. How do we make that safe . There are a number of ways we can make fall sports safe. We know that sports in general have higher rates of transmission than the classroom setting, for example. Here in North Carolina we found 50 to 75 of highrisk Sports Transmission occurred sorry. 50 to 75 of high School Transmission occurred in the settling of sports during the last school year. So certainly many of those students are going to be eligible for vaccination. This is something parents should certainly advocate for. They should certainly get their kids vaccinated. Districts should be advocating and pushing and creating clinics to get their student athletes vaccinated. Thats going to be the absolute safest way for us to do this here in the fall. 50 to 70 . That is quite a number. Dr. Zimmerman, dr. Benjamin, thank you for answering so many questions on parents minds. We appreciate it. Thank you. Dramatic escalation overnight as the Texas Supreme Court rules that republicans can arrest the democrats who left the state to protest a voting bill. Plus, hear a fired up Cory Booker on the Senate Floor at a speech directed at one of his republican colleagues. Whats happening to americans who are lying to get a third dose of the vaccine . Ok everyone, our mission is to provide complete, balanced nutrition for strength and energy. Whoo hoo ensure, with 27 vitamins and minerals, now introducing ensure complete with 30 grams of protein. Its my wokeuplikethis migraine medicine. Its ubrelvy. One dose can quickly stop my migraine in its tracks within 2 hours. Dont take with strong cyp3a4 inhibitors. Most common Side Effects were nausea and tiredness. Ask about ubrelvy, the anytime, anywhere migraine medicine. upbeat Pop Music in background throughout what happens when we Welcome Change . We can transform our workforce overnight out of convenience, or necessity. 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The state supreme court clearing the way for republican lawmakers to order the arrests of democrats who fled the state last month to block passage of new voting restrictions. Cnns Dianne Gallagher joins us live with the latest. Reporter yeah, brianna, this morning 52 civil Arrest Warrants that were signed by the speaker of the Texas House last night will be delivered to the sergeant at arms for service. It came just hours after the all republican Texas Supreme Court issued a stay on an order from a democratic State District Court judge that would have prevented these warrants from being issued, at least temporarily and any sort of detention. Now, of course, this is the second time in as many months that Texas House republicans have voted to effectively send Law Enforcement after their democratic colleagues who are absent from the house and drag them back to the capitol to make quorum so they can do legislative business. Whats different this time, though, is that while there are more than two dozen texas democrats still in the nations capital, trying to lobby congressional lawmakers to pass civil votes Rights Legislation, many have returned to the lone Star State. This does put them at arrest for arrest. Those civil Arrest Warrants are only good within the state of texas. Now, last time in the month of july when the democrats effectively killed that Election Overhaul Bill by denying quorum, only one civil Arrest Warrant was actually signed for a member in d. C. , went back to texas and then went back to d. C. So things have escalated from last month with those 52 civil Arrest Warrants being signed. Brianna, look, these are not criminal Arrest Warrants. No one will be taken to jail but when i spoke with some of the texas democrats, especially those in the lone Star State right now, theyre not exactly sure what the next steps look like. They dont know if Law Enforcement can come to their homes, if they can find them in public and take them essentially and drag them back to the capital or how this will work. One told me that they felt like they were in Uncharted Territory right now. There is a hearing for that temporary Restraining Order that was issued by the District Court Judge on august 20th. The democrats have until thursday to respond to The State Supreme Court ruling, brianna. But at this point theres still no quorum so the State House can no do any business. Democrats say theyre in this for as long as they possibly can be here. Its a dramatic step. Well see if it gets even more dramatic if its carried out. Thank you so much. Were also going to be speaking with one of those texas democrats Coming Up in the show. So it happened just a few hours ago and is already a viral moment, i am reliably told. On the Senate Floor, Tommy Tubberville called for a vote on an amendment that would punish local jurisdictions that defund the police. His idea was to put democrats on the record on the issue. But perhaps that effort backfired after democratic Senator Cory Booker responded by celebrating the amendment. This is how it played out. I call on my colleagues to support our Law Enforcement by voting yes for this amendment, opposing my amendment is a vote in support of defunding the police and against the men and women in blue. The gentlemans time has expired. Madame president. Senator from new jersey. I am so excited. This is perhaps the highlight of this long and painful and torcherous night. This is a gift. If it wasnt complete abdication of senate procedures and esteem, i would walk over there and hug my colleague from alabama. And i will tell you right now, thank god because theres some people who have said that members of this deliberative body want to defund the police to my horror. Now this senate has given us The Gift that finally once and for all we can put to bed this accusation, somebody, in this great esteemed body would want to defund the police. So lets all of us, 100 people, not walk but sashay down there and vote for this amendment and put to rest the lies that i am surely see no political ads attacking anybody here Over Defund the police and i would ask unanimous consent to add something else to this obvious bill, can we add also that every senator here wants to defund the police, believes in god, Country And Apple pie. Thank you. Sashay. Sashay. Thats what stood out to me. That was quite effective. Im not sure that Cory Booker needs any impetus to get himself revved up on anything, but he certainly jumped all over that. Maybe thats why Tommy Tubberville wasnt more effective as coach at auburn. Oh. He might still be there if he had more of a sense of strategic planning. Ultimately every senator both democrats and republicans did sashay and they voted in favor of the amendment. Did they do this is that what you have to do when you sashay. Thats what he did. That was quite a moment. Now i know why im told it went viral so quickly. Quite a moment. In two weeks Andrew Cuomo will officially become the former governor of New York. Whats next for him legally and what do we know about his replacement . Plus, the taliban claiming control of another city in afghanistan overnight. We will have a live report from kabul. Seeing blood when you brush or floss can be a sign of early gum damage. New parodontax active Gum Repair kills Plaque Bacteria at the Gum Line to help keep the Gum Seal tight. New parodontax active Gum Repair toothpaste. From Prom Dresses to workouts and new adventures you hope the more you give the less theyll miss. But even if your teen was vaccinated against meningitis in the past they may be missing vaccination for Meningitis B. 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Joining us now cnn political Commentator Errol louis, and carolyn. How surprised were you that the governor left the way he did and what happens now . I was a little surprised. It only became clear about halfway through his 20minute speech, oh, hes leaving. We knew he was going to put up a fight. We knew he wanted to put up a fight. He had a lot of time, frankly. The assembly is moving towards impeachment a Pace A Month from now they would have to make a hard choice and hard votes and he was going to use every bit of that time because time seemed to be strategy the he was using to try to delay things, hope for a reversal, rally the public to his side or otherwise get out of all of this. He ran out of options and it became clear that he at least now accepted that he was out of options. His advisers had been walking away from him, many had told him that this was it was over and it was time to call it quits. He finally acknowledged that. Hes going to, i think, sort of play out over the next 14 days for every last advantage he can get. I dont know how much good its going to do him because hes still in a fair amount of hot water. I want to ask you about the legal ramifications here, but first i want to play something that the governor said about essentially times have changed and he didnt catch Up To it. Lets listen. Ive never crossed the line with anyone. But i didnt realize the extent to which the line has been redrawn. There are generational and cultural shifts that i just didnt fully appreciate. To be clear, hes been a accused of in at least one case grabbing the breast of one of his accusers. He denies that. Its important to note obviously that is not has never been any on anybody but one side of a line. I just wonder what you think about what he said and how much has to do with perhaps his legal liabilities here . Right. So two allegations arguably laid out in the attorney Generals Report could constitute potentially criminal conduct, right . They fall under new York State statutes. Thats going to be Up To the individual district attorneys. We have already heard from several of them they are investigating the most egregious allegations Thats Britney Comm committees. Title 7 of the civil Rights Act and ironically new York State Sexual Harassment laws which Governor Cuomo actually signed into action. He was a very Fa Sis Rouse Advocate for sweeping reforms in legislation. He literally defined the line he is disingenuously claiming he didnt nowhere it was. He wrote the rules. And in new York State he knows perfectly well what constitutes Sexual Harassment. There are a multitude of allegations here from women that could constitute real liability. This is not an overuse of the word Lit Flal this case. Thats right. He literally signed the laws that changed this, created the line. He did. He had a big press conference. He advocated for he actually lowered the line in terms of federally versus in new York State cha what can constitute Employment Discrimination and said it no longer has to be severe and pervasive which arguably it was detailed in that complaint but he lowered the line so that women could bring these claims more easily in new York State. Theres been a suggestion that once the governor leaves office the criminal prosecutions and investigations are less likely to go forward. Is that something you agree with . Prosecutorial discretion does play a part in any prosecutor bringing a case. Arguably these arent the types of crimes and theyre really misdemeanors if im telling the truth, these arent the types of situations that prosecutors go after. That being said, they have an ethical obligation to pursue charges once the attorney Generals Report came out and really detailed those allegations. Youre height that the fact that hes stepping down could play into a decision to go forward with that prosecution given that in terms of retribution, so to speak, yeah. Errol, Preet Ber Rar ra said, quote, i was a little taken aback that he said his resignation is in effective in 14 days and maybe be overcynical on my part but i believe that Andrew Cuomo was a person of mischief. What do you think of that . Do you agree . I love that Word Mischief as used there. 14 days. Yeah, theres plenty of time and people should be very cognizant that documents can be destroyed, evidence can be covered up, personnel can be sort of hidden away, tucked away in agencies where maybe nobody will notice them. Theres a lot that can happen thats not great over the next couple weeks. Its Up To the State Assembly to decide whether or not theyre going to continue with impeachment proceedings. Theres a legal question as to whether or not it makes sense. Removal is not the only penalty for impeachment, so they could in theory go forward, conduct an investigation, find out that its time that they want to impeach exGovernor Cuomo and then bar him from ever holding office again. There are also some issues about whether or not he would receive his pension if they decide to go down that road. So, the contentiousness is still there and there are a number of legislatures i spoke to in the last day who are saying we must go forward with this. We need to define this standard. We need to find out all what happened, not just with Sexual Harassment but with other issues that the assembly was looking at and we need to hold him accountable. That doesnt go away because he decided he has a different timetable and wants to sort of make things okay for himself and for some of the people who are close to him. Whether short term or long term its hard to imagine that we have seen the last of Andrew Cuomo. Errol, thank you so much. 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He was able to go into a local cvs in New York to get a third dose. He wasnt in Cvs System and wasnt in new York System and he said he was able to do this. He said he didnt feel bad about it because there are many unvaccinated people in the u. S. Who are choosing not to get the vaccine. There are many doses going unused. But Public Health officials say that those unvaccinated people are where we need to focus our attention on. One doctor, dr. Paul offit, here is what he said to say. This discussion of boosters is just off the point. The problem in this country is not boosting people who already been vaccinated. The problem in this country is vaccinating people who havent been vaccinated. Thats where we need to focus our efforts, all our efforts actually. So thats where the focus is now. But again, john, this could change soon. Of course, with sneaking in a third dose, there are some ethical and legal questions as well. For one, when you get the vaccine, you have to sign that consent form. If you lie on the consent form, that could be used against you. Also, Health Systems and Insurance Companies use certain Billing Codes and Supply Chains for initial doses. Its assumed Theyll Use other systems or Billing Codes for boosters. So you could mess up things organizationally as well and then number three, there is the ethics question. There are many people around the world who have yet to receive a first dose, so jumping in line for a third, there are questions there as well. So this is an on going conversation, john. Youre doing it now, youre lying. I mean, definitionally, youre doing it now, youre doing it dishonestly. Well see what happens in the next few days. Jacqulynn howard, thank you for being with us. Thank you. Hesitancy among americans to get vaccinated against covid19 despite widespread availability of the vaccine is causing growing frustration, particularly in countries who do not have the same access to these lifesaving vaccines in the in an Opinion Piece for the Washington Post titled as an indian im enraged by americans to set vaccine mandates. If americans wont get their shots, they should send their vaccines to countries whose citizens will. She is joins us now to talk about this, a columnist at the post and she also recently lost her father to coronavirus. Barka, soim so sorry about tha. I understand he had one Shot But Hadnt had another. It is common in other countries and in india. Thats right. Even when i think of it today, my Heart Sort of sinks with that what if question. My dad was scheduled to get his second jab in the week that he got infected and had to be optized and then, of course, he didnt make it out of the icu. And every day during my reporting of this pandemic and i pretty much traveled across my country i meet with really, really poor people who stand in line for hours and are sometimes turned away from medical centers because there arent enough vaccines to go around, less than 10 of my country is fully vaccinated. And while that means millions of people because we are a country of 1. 3 billion people, it still means that the vast majority of indians are yet to get vaccines. Now, some of the fault is our governments. They didnt order enough on time. But you know, when i sit in delly and look at whats going on in the u. S. Where hesitancy if you forgive me is a very polite understated word to describe extreme Self Indulgence and spoiled behavior, in my opinion, it just makes my blood boil. You say its White Privilege and Self Indulgence. Explain what you mean by that. Well, you know, even if you do a breakdown of vaccine distribution, in many western countries i think the data tells you that even in countries like the u. S. , the United Kingdom and other countries of the european union, there is a Race And Class discrimination in the spread of the vaccine and the access to the vaccine. And if you look at america, it is primarily the republican states, it is primarily the white community that is standing up and saying we dont want this, the conspiracy theories, the option to say no, the pushback against compulsory mandatory vaccines isnt it all coming mostly from the white Republican Sort of states of the u. S. . What should i call it but White Privilege. That is whats driving it. I will tell you white critics will say theres also hesitancy among black and hispanic ameri americans, and its true. But they account for significantly smaller percentage of the u. S. Population. Its a lot of white Vaccine Hesitancy that we are seeing driving these surges that were currently seeing in the u. S. I wonder, barkha, youre enraged by what you see in the u. S. , people who can have vaccines and they arent getting it and you tell stories of indians who want it so badly and are suffering and losing loved ones because of it. When you hear news like the major airlines that are not going to require vaccines with their employees, what do you think about that . I saw that today that at least three major American Airlines are not backing the decision by united to make vaccines mandatory for their staff. And once again, you know, what it made me feel is that the u. S. Currently has closed its borders to people like me. If i want to take a flight, i cant because apparently im a resident of the dangerous country which has the delta variant spread. Im mindful of the irony that you guys have the vaccines and youre still sort of discriminating against us, against international students from other countries, against business travelers, against people whose families live there, close friends live there and its just so ironical that this is all being done in the name of personal liberty. I mean, doesnt Liberty End when you start causing active harm to the others around you . And in this case, the u. S. By opting not to mandate vaccines in my opinion is hurting not just its own people but its hurting the global economy, its hurting the entire idea of Vaccine Equity and hurting countries and country men and women like mine who want those vaccines and need those vaccines. Its a fascinating look at your column about the u. S. From an outside perspective. We appreciate you sharing it with us this morning. Barkha dutt, thank you. Thank you. We have new cnn reporting about indicted Trump Organization Cfo allen weissleburg. Federal prosecutors suspect weissleburg lied in testimony during their former hearing of Michael Cohen. What does that mean for Weissle Burg now . Ka Ra Ska Nel joins with us all this reporting. Multiple sources that my colleague and i spoke with told us federal prosecutors investigating Michael Cohen, they had given Allen Weissle Burg immunity for his testimony. Two of those sources tell us that one of the skepticisms where their skepticism lies is they thought that weisselelberg gave them false testimony how the Trump Organization reimbursed Michael Cohen. They called it a legal expense. Federal prosecutors said they didnt believe that was the case. Now, this is relevant now because Manhattan District Attorneys Office charged Allen Weisselberg and the Trump Organization and wanted his cooperation. They did want it. They still want it because their investigation is on going. So this puts a wrinkle in this whole matter and investigation. Now, ultimately the federal prosecutors had considered charging weisselberg with perjury. They considered revoking his immunity our sources told us and Ult Inimately they did nothing the charge was closed. He cooperated fully in the Sdny Investigation and charged Michael Cohen with Campaign Finance and tax violations and closed its investigation more than two years ago. You know, but again, this is relevant today because weisselberg is under indictment. He is someone prosecutors want their cooperation from and the d. A. s Office Investigation actually stemmed from that federal investigation of Michael Cohen, so the hushmoney payments are part of this investigation, too. So separately and very separately i should say, Rudy Giuliani is on cameo for people who dont know what that is, its where you can go on and pay someone generally someone famous to record a message for you and its worth noting hes facing huge legal bills, right . As he does this. Tell us about this. Right. So Rudy Giuliani joined cameo. Charging 275 for each of these spots he could give how long are those spots . I think theyre anywhere from one minute to two minutes. Jerry springer is also on Cameo Charging 134 a couple of minutes. So giuliani is charging more. This does reflect kind of the financial straits that hes in, this dire situation. Hes not getting help from the former president , his onetime client. Hes facing Election Litigation and of course this Bill Criminal Investigation by the federal prosecutors in New York can get very expensive. His friend had launched a fund to raise money for him. I was just looking at Vanity Fair story. He hasnt raised that much money really at all. None of the trump allies are coming to his rescue. I was trying to figure out if 275 was a good rate for giuliani. Trying to find like like to like comparisons, apples to apples. So, the Night King from game of thrones, 100. Really . Thats it. You can get 2. 75 Night Kings, Extinction Level characters for one Rudy Giuliani. One extinction is worth two impeachments. Is he wearing makeup . Draco malfoy is nearly 600. Poor Rudy Giuliani, longtime mayor of new York City you can get for less than half of draco malfoy. Giuliani comes at a bargain. Dabi the efl gets what, do you think . I would pay a grand for dabi. Rudy giuliani is getting half of draco malfoy. Not even half. Thank you very much for that. Coming up, were going to speak with the pastor of a Florida Church and this is a very impactful story that were covering. They lost six unvaccinated members to coronavirus in the course of two weeks. Plus, prominent antivaxxers dying of covid. Will others heed their lesson . Thats next. Oh, son of a poppyseed ah, theres no place like panera. Enjoy the cool, refreshing strawberry poppyseed salad. Panera. Order on the app today. Born to be wild born to be wild see disneys jungle cruise. 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