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Finally pass an Infrastructure Bill. Will they finally be able to get it done . Ill speak with a key republican negotiator, Senator Bill Cassidy, next. Attempted coup . An investigation by the top Senate Committee digs deeper into the plot to push trumps election lies, what did they learn . The chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Dick Durbin, joins me next. Plus millions of americans in danger of losing their homes can now breathe a sigh of relief because one democratic member of congress drove the most powerful person in washington to take action. Sometimes presence makes all the difference. Thats what this was here. Ill speak to the leader of the protest, Congresswoman Cori Bush, ahead. Hello. Im Dana Bash in washington where the state of our union is in rewind. For the first time since february, the u. S. Is averaging more than 100,000 new covid cases per day. Hospitalizations and deaths are also once again on the rise. Almost exclusively among the unvaccinated. President biden this week flashed new levels of frustration, rebuking republican governors for standing in the way of Vaccine And Mask requirements. If some governors arent willing to do the right thing to beat this pandemic, they should allow businesses and universities who want to do the right thing to be able to do it. I say to these governors, please help. If youre not going to help, at least get out of the way. All this, as the senate inches closer to passing the 1. 2 trillion bipartisan infrastructure deal. The bill cleared a key procedural hurdle yesterday, but its dash across the Finish Line was stalled by, no surprise, a partisan stalemate. Senators are confident the deal will pass. When . That remains a little bit murky. Joining us is one of the republican senators behind the bill, Senator Bill Cassidy from louisiana. Thank you so much for joining me, senator. I want to talk about infrastructure in a moment. I want to start by discussing the pandemic, which is really ravaging the country and especially your state of louisiana. Its in dire crisis. Record number of hospitalizations. Icus are running out of beds. You are also a physician. When you see this, what goes through your mind . We have it within our power to stop it. Each person thats vaccinated now protects not only herself or himself, but those around them because no longer is she as likely to pass the infection to others. If we dont want this, we have it within our control. All we need to do is get vaccinated. Your states governor, John Bell edwards, issued a new Mask Mandate and put it into effect this week. Was that the right move . Now im going to speak as a doctor. If you have a large percentage of your population which is not vaccinated and your Infection Rate is going up, youve got one or two choices. If youre inside, youre vaccinated or have to wear a mask. Otherwise, youre at too great a risk to further spread infection, to further pack those emergency rooms, to further prevent people who have terrible accidents from getting cared for there is a choice. On one hand we dont want Mask Mandates, get vaccinated, the Mask Mandate goes down and you dont have a mandate. Sounds like youre saying thats a yes. As a doctor, you have two choices to stop that infection, get vaccinated or wear a mask. Some governors, like Ron Desantis in florida, Greg Abbott in texas, theyre blocking local officials from imposing restrictions like Mask Mandates. The virus is surging in those shouldnt local officials be allowed to make decisions like Mask Mandates if they believe thats best for their community . Im a conservative. You govern best when you govern closest to the people being governed. If a local community is having their icu is full and people at the local schools see theyve got to make sure they stay open because otherwise children will miss out for another year of school and they put in policies, then the local official should be listened to. That is a conservative principle. You disagree with Governor Desantis . I do disagree with Governor Desantis. Local officials should have control here. I dont want top down from washington, d. C. I dont want top down from a governors office. Sometimes in cases of national defense, things like that. But if my hospitals are full, Vaccination Rate is low and Infection Rate is going crazy, we should allow local officials to make decisions for their community. Is he playing politics with this . I try not to guess other peoples motives. Politicians should not kind of Cart Blanche accept what they say but there has to be a balance here. Whenever Politicians Mess with Public Health, usually it doesnt usually work out well for Public Health and ultimate ultimately doesnt work out for the politician. Public health suffers and the american people want Public Health. Lets turn to infrastructure, something that you helped to craft. The senate is moving pretty slowly, but getting there slowly. First of all, when do you think its going to pass and how many republicans will vote yes . Weve had about 17 or 18 who have indicated theyre going to vote yes, and probably its going to pass. Well have a Vote Tonight 7 30 and then another vote if you look at the clock playing out, some time on tuesday. So, it could go quicker, but its going. And thats the good thing. Its going. You were in regular communications with President Biden as you got this deal done. What were those conversations like . Do you think this could have happened without that kind of dialogue . No. The White House engaged. And thats a good thing. Obviously, the negotiations were between the democratic White House, democratic senators and republican senators with the healthy mix of my colleagues from the house, the problem solvers caucus, and the folks they work with. But, obviously, at some point they signaled they wanted it to happen. By the way, because they wanted it to happen, theres going to be over a trillion dollars spent on roads, bridges, flood protection, waterways and flood mitigation, Coastal Restoration. I could go down the list. And create hundreds of thousands of jobs. Im glad they engaged. What about your personal interactions with President Biden . At some point the president called me and said listen, everything ive seen so far does not have a section on resiliency or a section on energy. And i know youve been working with fitzpatrick to come up with such a thing. Can you engage . We merged a couple independent efforts. Now we have 16 Billion to 17 Billion for Coastal Restoration and 3. 5 or 2. 5 for fema for flood mitigation. Because it was legislation that was used to get things done which we havent seen for a long time. Republicans, when he we controlled the senate, passed four our five Relief Packages for covid relief at The End of our term. Why . Bipartisan. Thats true. I want to ask you specifically about this. Some of your fellow senate republicans say theyre going to oppose this. And theyre pointing to a Congressional Budget Office estimate that its 250 Billion that it adds to the deficit that much. Here is what some of your gop colleagues have said. Chuck grassley said it was disappointing. Jon cornyn called it a real problem. Mike brawn called it the swamps debt bomb. What do you know that they dont . We absolutely said this is how it was going to be. Half of what we proposed will be scored by cbos paid for. We were up front about that. Half because of theiR Rules that wont. Its things that a reasonable person would say yeah its a pay for. For example, 53 Billion congress has already appropriated for federal unemployment supplemental payments are not being used pore that. We are repurposing that, just as we told folks we were going to repurpose, repurpose for the sake of paying pore this. Cbo doesnt give us credit but thats 53 Billion were repurposing that a reasonable person says yeah, that pays for it. More broadly, do you think its a bit rich that under President Trump the national debt climbed almost 8 Trillion and now some of your colleagues are worried about the debt again . On the other hand first, the first part of your thing, lets face it, a lot of the spending was in response to covid. We understood when covid broke we had to put up Payroll Protection plans. True, but a lot of it happened before. Secondly, President Trump proposed a 1. 5 trillion package which most republicans were all for and only 5 was paid for. We can say this is reasonably paid for, certainly onehalf by cbo score, and now folks are saying, oh, we Cant Vote for that. Okay, thats okay. On the other hand, were creating jobs, bridges, protecting people from flooding. Hopefully, they change their mind. Many in your party say theyre opposed to this on its substance but also because its really just cover, giving cover to democrats to pass their multitrillion dollaR Reconciliation bill. I know you say theyre separate but a lot of democrats, Inc Including House Speaker Nancy pelosi doesnt see it that way. Are they playing you here . The fact that pelosi says she has to link them tells you she doesnt have the votes for the reconciliation package. A democratic colleague said infrastructure is the dessert. The 3. 5 trillion spend a lot of Money And Tax a lot of money is spinach. Ive eaten my dessert and now im supposed to eat my spinach . I dont think so. The other thing, the problem solvers caucus, a coalition of 28 republicans and 28 democrats, Headed By Gottheimer And Fitzpatrick Have come out in favor of this. She doesnt need a radical left wing. She can pass the Infrastructure Package with that committed group of american congressmen and women who want to see our country get better to have the 110 Billion for the roads and bridges and highways, et cetera, and the new jobs, they can pass the Infrastructure Package without having the radical left, and that i think opens a pathway. Before i let you go, i want to ask about the judiciary chairman Dick Durbin, coming on after you, is doing into the way President Trump tried to overturn the election. A former top official described trumps direct instructions to push false fraud claims. I know you condemned lies about the election, but what does it tell you about the lengths that the former president was willing to go to overturn the election . First, what you just described, one, if it happened, its wrong. Lets say that. Secondly, as you described it, and i read The New York Times article, unnamed official in a Closeddoor Session reportedly said this. It still meets the definition of hearsay at this point. If it happened, its wrong. On the other hand, i would like some sort of validation beyond that which i just described. Senator Bill Cassidy, thank you for joining me. Thanks, dana. Thank you. We could have been one Trump Move away from a fullblown coup attempt. The chairman of the committee investigating a plot to overturn the election inside the Justice Department joins me next. She took action to get action. Congressman Cori Bush is here after their Marathon Protest to stop evictions. N go from your Cars Cup Holder to a Crystal Bowl and seem equally at home . I guess the most wellrounded Snack Isnt Round at all. Its more cashewshaped. Planters. A nut above. Not all 5g Networks are created equal. 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Both officials, according to those familiar with the matter provided detailed accounts in which lawyers sought to deploy the departments resources to push trumps false claims of voter fraud. Joining me to discuss this is the chairman of the committee investigating all of that, democratic senator Dick Durbin of illinois. Thank you so much for joining me. Jeffrey rosen who is was the acting Attorney General for Donald Trump at The End of his presidency. Rosen was reportedly getting calls from trump nearly every day about overturning election results. What did he tell you . He told us a lot. Seven hours of testimony. I might quickly add, this was ask mr. Clark to come in and tell the sfor his point of view. Are you worried there werent sitting Members Of Congress who were involved in this. Its a legitimate question. Do you believe Jeffrey Clarke will come in or will you have to subpoena him . He has nothing to fall back on with the department of justice policy. Merrick garland has opened the door and saying were waiving all privilege here. He may decide for personal or otheR Reasons he doesnt want to testify put i hope he will. What about the former Attorney General Bill Barr . Do you think he will come in voluntarily . We have a lot of questions relating to this incident and others during the tenure that he was Attorney General. Will you subpoena him if he doesnt . It takes a bipartisan vote to subpoena. I dont know that were going to be able to accomplish that. People think the Senate Judiciary Committee can send out subpoenas and off we go. Its more constrained. How helpful would it be to speak to former President Donald Trump . Not sflooil what has are has are R R of o i guess the thought that weve come to accept it, this president and his bizarre conduct, we came to accept over four years as normal. Its outrageous. When you look back on the Richard Nixon Episode and Saturday Night massacre people out of principle were threatening to resign. Same thing happened here incidentally within the department of justice. There was a point where virtually everyone in authority in the department of justice was going to walk if the president had his way. These are moments in history which you never want to see repeated and with Donald Trump they were. Is what youre seeing and describing an attempted coup. They were going through the Ord Nare Process as if the president was removing the Attorney General and making pronouncements which would happen in a coup by classic definition but it was leading up to that kind of process. Last question on this. Have you spoke tonight current Attorney General Merrick Garland and do you think that theres a potential for criminal charges . I dont know the answer to that. I think its too early in the investigation. Okay. So i want to ask about infrastructure. Sure. The deal that is on the floor as we speak. Its poised to passing in coming days. There are a group of moderate house democrats who wrote to Speaker Nancy Pelosi and said, please back off your pledge to hold the Infrastructure Bill until the senate passes the 3. 5 trillion reconciliation plan. This is part of the letter. A once the a century this once in a Century Investment deserves its own consideration without regard to other legislation. After years of waiting the country cannot afford unnecessary delays to finally deliver on physical Infrastructure Package. So, if it is that vital should the house pass it right away . Let me say initially, the real question in the senate i guess in the senate, perhaps in the house as well, whether the center will hold. Theres a question now while were waiting doing Nothing Day after day, there are forces still trying to stop this bipartisan agreement in the united states senate. You just had Bill Cassidy on. Hes become a real friend. I trust him, he trusts me. We have candid conversations. Thats a good thing. We considered more amendments on the floor of the senate, 22, with this bill, than we had in a year under Senator Mcconnell and previous years. But the question now is moving forward, what can we accomplish . Nancy pelosi has an extraordinary challenge, fourvote margin. That isnt much when you sit down and count votes. I dont want to project a strategy. I want her to do it. Shes as accomplished as they come. I can understand people want to see the Infrastructure Bill pass with No Strings Attached but she has to hold not just enough votes for the Infrastructure Bill but the folon budget resolution. I give her all the flexibility she needs to reach that goal. I have to ask about the 3. 5 trillion reconciliation bill. It seems as though youre thinking about you and your colleagues are thinking about stretching the limits of the senate rules, maybe trying to get Voting Rights in there, what senator klobuchar, you mentioned daca. How much are you going to try to stuff in there . I can tell you this is a once in a political lifetime opportunity when it comes to issues like immigration. Its been 36 years since weve had immigration reform. Its long overdue. Everyone knows the system is broken. We can see it at our borders and know it internally. There is precedent. We have included the republicans have included Immigration Measures in 2005 in the same budget resolution. So i think its not an unreasonable request and its long overdue. Senator Dick Durbin, judiciary chair, senate majority whip, you have a lot of titles, grandfather, thats another one. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. Thanks. A sitin on the steps of the capitol gets the president s attention and throws millions of struggling americans a potential lifeline. How did Congresswoman Cori Bush get the White House to act . She joins me next. re powerpac. That help unleash your energy. Loaded with b vitamins. And other key essential nutrients. Its a tasty way to conquer your day. Try centrum multi gummies. Now with a new look. This isnt just a walk up the stairs. When you have an irregular heartbeat, its more. Its dignity. The freedom to go where you want, knowing your doctor can watch over your heart. Joint pain, swelling, tenderness. My psoriasis. Cosentyx® works on all of this. Cosentyx can help you look and feel better by treating the multiple symptoms of psoriatic arthritis. Dont use if youre allergic to cosentyx. Before starting, get checked for tuberculosis. An increased risk of infections some serious and the lowered ability to fight them may occur. 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You talked a lot over the last week about how personal a fight this was for you, being evicted three times yourself, including while you were raising two young children. And im going to ask you about some of the details of what happened. But before, i Cant Help but wonder, given the fact that you raised those kids, now theyre grown up, what did they think of your efforts . To them its like this is what mom does. You know, Mom Fights for everyone. And theyve seen me do this, whether sleeping out on the streets to help in my own community, you know, to raise awareness to whats happening to our unhoused Community Members, to Fighting For justice for michael brown, who, you know, the anniversary of his death is tomorrow. So my children have seen this over and over again. They stand with me. You know, theyve been radicalized, too. So, this is who they want to see their mother this is who they know. Your efforts resulted in the cdc issuing a new 60day Eviction Freeze for people living in areas with high or substantial covid transmission, which basically covers almost the whole country right now. As you know, even President Biden said hes not really sure whether this move is constitutional. Its already facing legal challenges. So if the courts ultimately strike it down, whats your next move . Well, so thats why i rushed back to st. Louis to make sure that and weve been telling weve been saying it nationally, that we have to do the work now to get this money out. We have to do the work to make sure that our states and our local governments are able to release this money, get this money out into the hands of the people who need it the most. So, were telling tenants, were telling landlords to, you know, go online, or show up at the clinics that are happening around the country and get apply for this money and for our local government and states, please get this money out. This has to happen. 60 days, we may not have. So we are pushing really hard for people to apply. Especially locally, ive heard people arent applying. We understand there have been barriers to people applying and those resources being able to be moved. We are working out those kinks right now. I want to ask you about an oped you wrote for cnn. Com. In it you said, quote, now that we have again demonstrated what grassroots movements are capable of, theres No Limit to what we can do. The change that we have been marching, organizing and pushing for is within reach. We just have to take it. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi seems to have taken a different stance. On friday, she drew a distinction. She has done this before, between being an advocate and being a legislator. Whats youR Response . Im both. Im both. Before i walked into congress after i won my primary, i started talking about being a politivist. I think that its okay to have both because when we legislate, yes, we have that power of the pen, the power of the purse, were able to write bills, were able to cosponsor and send letters, all of that is wonderful, you need that, but the Activist Side of me, that advocate, is the one that remembers what it was like to be in positions where i felt overlooked and neglected and unheard. And so many others in our communities im a nurse. I am always advocating. Thats who thats what we do. And so having both of those, thats that pressure, the activist is going to bring the pressure. The activist is going to highlight the issues so that the legislator can then hit the ball out of the park. Congresswoman i want to ask about the criticism youre facing about comments you made in an interview this past week. I want our viewers to listen. Im going to make sure i have security, because i know i have had attempts on my life. And i have too much work to do. There are too many people that need help right now for me to allow that. So if i end up spending 200,000, if i spend 10 more on it, i get to be here to do the work. So, suck it up. Defunding the police has to happen. We need to defund the police. So, i know youve seen republicans are pointing to the fact that you said you have your own security. But almost in the same breath advocating for defunding the police. I do want to emphasize, i understand you have Security Protection because you have received multiple death threats. The clip that i just played is being used in attack adds against not just you, but other democrats. Could those comments end up being harmful to your fellow democrats politically speaking . I think what we have to look at is the fact that i made it to congress in 2020, i was elected to congress and were still fighting this same fight. Were still fighting to save black lives. That was not that work was not done before i got here. This is the reason why i ran, was to save lives, save my sons life. It was because michael brown, who were Fighting For, still trying to get justice for, its because he didnt get justice and byers and powell didnt get justice and so many others. That is why. Because that was not fixed before i got here, to come at me and say youre the reason we have these problems. No. The reason we have these problems is because those that were in power and could have fixed this problem before now didnt and it cost lives. And so now that im here, we just introduced the Peoples Response Act to make sure that we are looking at the money that should be going to Social Safetiness to make sure our Community Members who are living with Mental Health issues are able to function and live in society the way that anyone would ask to. So i dont believe, as far as my colleagues, you know, i absolutely empathize. I empathize. You know what, the same thing that the republicans would do, which is figure out how to work with this, thats what we have to do. My job is to save lives in my community. Because when were talking about every single year increasing the budget for police and then the budget for like Health And Human Services continuing to shrink, and st. Louis being Number One for Police Violence Year after year after year, Number One. Number two for Homicides Year after year congresswoman. When were adding more money to the police but were still dying. Something has to change. Congresswoman, i hear what youre saying but i also heard you think its a coms problem. Is it that . No. Im saying thats another way that you can tackle this. You have to tackle it from more than one place. We have to work on what we want to say. What is our message . But we also have to understand, we have to save lives, too. St. Louis cant keep being put on the back burner. And im here to stand up for my community. 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Astronauts political campaign she started on a famous astronauts political Campaign And Hasnt stopped launching through glass ceilings ever since. Bidens senior adviser anita dunn, is leaving the White House this month. We went there to see her before she goes. Its our latest installment of bad ass women of washington. You first came here as an Intern In 1978. Wow. Yes. For President Carter . For President Carter. But it was a mans world, a total mans world. Anita dunn was one of the first women in president ial politics to change that, eventually landing in the Inner Circle of two winning campaigns and administrations, President Obama and now President Biden. As a Junior Staffer in 1984 on john glenns campaign, she set a high bar for hers. Herself. I made the decision that the next time i wanted to work on a president ial campaign, i was going to be at the table. So, i didnt work on campaigns until i was at a point where thats where my seat was. Dunn earned that seat by working as a congressional aide, then political consultant for countless democratic president ial campaigns, though it was hard to find work during the 1996 election when she was pregnant. Is it true that only female candidates would hire you . If you look at who hired me that year, yes, that is quite true. Someone would call me and say ive got this candidate in town, i want to bring them over to meet you and i was coming down the stairs in my most pregnant self and i could watch the candidates face like and then you didnt get the job . I wouldnt get hired. Of course not. I wanted people to know i was a mom. I talked openly about im not going to be in or i cant be on that call. That was pretty risky back then. But i felt it was important. If you have senior women who are openly talking about their children and the time theyre going to set aside for their children, and the parameters of theiR Relationships. Im leaving the office every day at this time for pick up at daycare, it gives other women permission. It was intentional . It was quite intentional, yes. Now many of the women she is surrounded by in the biden White House have small children. She is known for having an open door policy. Im not a big believer in mentorship. Although, im happy to Mentor Anybody who wants to walk through my door and get some advice. Im a huge believer in sponsorship. Whats the difference . Oh, the difference is huge, dana. Mentorship is im happy to give you advice. Im happy to be your sounding board. Im happy to be your Wailing Wall when things dont go well. But sponsorship is an active role in somebodys career. Its not just im going to give you advice but im going to actively promote you. Her sponsors were men, since there were so few women. This is a Recommendation Letter written some 45 years ago by her first White House boss, Carter Chief of staff hamilton jordan. Dunn is widely credited for turning around the Biden Campaign during the 2020 primaries after brutal losses in iowa and new hampshire. At The End of the day its about Setting Priorities and not being scared to make decisions. People in politics who are scared to make decisions are losing Campaign Managers and losing operatives. So make a Decision And Stick with it . And stick with it. By the way, youre going to make a wrong decision occasionally. There are people who are paralyzed about making a mistake. And that is, in politics, one of the worst things you can do, is allow yourself to get paralyzed. While President Biden is known for forgiving, it is done ever the loyal staffer who doesnt forget. Is that fair, that you hold grudges . I have gotten that reputation. I think most people who have worked with me will tell you im actually a pretty nice person who does forgive. And i move on. But i also believe that in politics, it is important sometimes for people to understand that there are lines they should not cross. As a trailblazing woman in democratic politics, dunn said reading the New York Attorney General report on andrew cuomos Sexual Harassment allegations was painful. You and i were on Capitol Hill a long time and weve seen the powerful relationships that can exist in politics. Reading about the experiences those 11 women had gone through, you know, felt like 45 years of watching, you know, america in many respects. She says she only joined this administration temporarily, to help with the covid crisis and is soon leaving. My first ambition was to be a sportscaster. Really . Yes. She may not have lived that dream. Im a very competitive person, dana. So i ended up in politics. But she did okay. Thank you, anita dunn. Up next shes idolized on the left, demonized on the right. Whats it like Being Aoc . A Sneak Peek at my new special coming up. 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