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Election Lice Whachlt did they learn . The chairman of the committee Dick Durbin, joins me next. Plus millions of americans in danger of losing their homes can now breathe a sigh of relief because one democratic member of congress drove the most powerful person in washington to take action ill speak to the leader of the protest, congresswoman Cori Bush, ahead. Hello. Im Dana Bash in washington where the state of our union is in rewind. For the first time since february, the u. S. Is averaging more than 100,000 new covid cases per day. Hospitalizations and deaths are also once again on the rise. Almost exclusively among the unvaccinated. President biden this Week Flash Nud levels of frustration, rebuking republican governors for standing in the way of Vaccine And Mask requirements. Some governors arent willing to do the right thing to beat this pandemic and should allow businesses and universities who want to do the right thing to be able to do it. I say to these governors, please help. If youre not going to help, at least get out of the way. All this, as the senate inches closer to passing the 1. 2 trillion bipartisan infrastructure deal. The bill cleared a key procedural Hurdle Yesterday but its dash across the Finish Line was stalled by, no surprise, partisan stalemate. Senators are confident the deal will pass. When . That remains a little bit murky. One of the republican senators behind the deal, Senator Bill Cassidy of louisiana. Thank you so much for joining me, senator. I want to talk about infrastructure in a moment. I want to start by discussing the pandemic, which is really ravaging the country and especially your state of louisiana. Its in dire crisis. Record number of hospitalizations. Icus are running out of beds. You are also a physician. When you see this, what goes through your mind . We have it within our power to stop it. Each person thats vaccinated now protects not only herself or himself, but those around them because no longer is she as likely to pass the infection to others. If we dont want this, we have it within our control. All we need to do is get vaccinated. Your states governor, John Bell edwards, issued a new Mask Mandate and put it into effect this week. Was that the right move . Now im going to speak as a doctor. If you have a large percentage of your popping thats not vaccinated and your Infection Rate is going up, youve got one or two choices. If youre inside, youre vaccinated or have to wear a mask. Otherwise, youre at too great a risk to further spread infection, to further pack those emergency rooms, to further prevent people who have terrible accidents from getting cared for because the hospital is full of covid. There say choice. On one hand we dont want Mask Mand mandates, get vaccinated, the Mask Mandate goes down and you dont have a mandate. As a doctor, you have two choices to stop that infection, get Vaks Anywayed or wear a mask. Some governors, like Ron Desantis in florida, Greg Abbott in texas, theyre blocking imposing restrictions like Mask Mandates. The virus is surging in those states, as in yours. You are a doctor, you are an official. Shouldnt local officials be allowed to make Mask Mandates . Im a conservative. You govern best when you govern closest to the people being governed. If a local community is having their icu is full and people at the local schools see theyve got to make sure they stay open because otherwise children will miss out for another year of school and they put in policies, then the local official should be listened to. That is a conservative principle. You disagree with Governor Desantis . I do disagree with Governor Desantis. Local officials should have control here. I dont want top down from washington, d. C. I dont want top down from a governors office. Sometimes in cases of national defense, things like that. But if my hospitals are full, Vaccination Rate is low and Infection Rate is going crazy, local officials should be allowed to make those decisions. Is he playing politics with this . I try not to guess other peoples motives. Politicians should not kind of Cart Blanche accept what they say but there has to be a balance here. Whenever Politicians Mess with Public Health it doesnt usually work out well for Public Health and ultimate ultimately doesnt work out for the politician. Public health suffers and the american people want Public Health. Lets turn to infrastructure, something that you helped to craft. The nt is moving pretty slowly, but getting there slowly. First of all, when do you think its going to pass and how many republicans will vote yes . Weve had about 17 or 18 who have indicated theyre going to vote yes and probably its going to pass. Well have a Vote Tonight 7 30 and then another vote if you look at the clock playing out, some time on tuesday. So, it could go quicker, but its going. And thats the good thing. Its going. You were in regular communications with President Biden as you got this deal done. What were those conversations like . Do you think this could have happened without that kind of dialogue . No. The White House engaged. And thats a good thing. Obviously, the negotiations were between the democratic White House, democratic senators and republican senators with the healthy mix of my colleagues from the house, the problem solvers caucus, and the folks they work with. But, obviously, at some point they signaled they wanted it to happen. By the way, because they wanted it to happen, theres going to be over a trillion dollars spent on roads, bridges, flood protection, waterways and flood mitigation, coastal restoration. I could go down the list. And create hundreds of thousands of jobs. Im glad they engaged. What about your personal interactions with President Biden . At some point the president called me and said listen, everything ive seen so far does not have a section on resiliency or a section on energy. And i know youve been working with fitzpatrick to come up with such a thing. Can you engage . 3. 5 or 2. 5 for fema for flood mitigation. Because it was legislation that was used to get things done which we havent seen for a long time. Republicans, when he we controlled the senate, passed four our five Relief Packages for covid relief at The End of our term. Why bipartisan . Thats true. I want to ask you specifically about this. Some of your fellow senate republicans say theyre going to oppose this. And theyre pointing to a Congressional Budget Office estimate that its 250 Billion that it adds to the deficit that much. Here is what some of your gop colleagues have said. Chuck grassley said it was dpointing. Jon cornyn called it a real problem. Mike brawn called it the swamps debt bomb. What do you know that they dont . We absolutely said this is how it was going to be. Half of what we proposed would be scored by cbos paid for. We were up front about that. Half because of their rules that wont. Its things that a reasonable person would say yeah its a pay for. For example, 53 Billion congress has already appropriated for federal unemployment supplemental payments are not being used pore that. We are repurposing that, just as we told folks we were going to repurpose, repurpose for the sake of paying pore this. Cbo doesnt give us credit but thats 50 Billion were repurposing that a reasonable person says yeah, that pays for it. More broadly, do you think its a bit rich that under President Trump the national debt climbed almost 8 Trillion and now some of your colleagus are worryed about the debt again . On the other hand first, the first part of your thing, lets face it, a lot of the spending was in response to covid. We understood when covid broke we had to put up Payroll Protection plans. True but a lot of it happened before. Secondly, President Trump proposed a 1. 5 trillion package which most republicans were for and only 5 was paid for. We can say this is reasonably paid for, certainly onehalf by Cbo Score and folks are saying, oh, we Cant Vote for that. Okay, thats okay. On the other hand, were creating jobs, bridges, protecting people from flooding. Hopefully, they change their mind. Many in your party say theyre opposed to this on its substance but also because its really just cover, giving cover to democrats to pass their multitrillion dollar reconciliation bill. I know you say theyre separate but Nancy Pelosi doesnt see it that way. The fact that pelosi says she has to link them tells you she doesnt have the votes for the reconciliation package. A democratic colleague said infrastructure is the dessert. The 3. 5 trillion spend a lot of Money And Tax a lot of money is spinach. Ive eaten my dessert and now im supposed to eat my spinach . I dont think so. 28 republicans, 28 democrats headed by gottheimer and fits Pat Rick Have come out in favor of this. She doesnt need a radical left wing. She can pass the Infrastructure Package with that committed group of american congressmen and women who want to see our country get better to have the 110 Billion for the roads and highways, et cetera, and the new jobs. They can pass the Infrastructure Package without having the radical left and that, i think, opens a pathway. Before i let you go, i want to ask about the judiciary chairman Dick Durbin, coming on after you, in the way President Trump tried to overturn the election. A former top official described trumps exact instructions to push false fraud claims. I know you condemned lies about the election but what does it tell you about the lengths that the former president was willing to go to overturn the election . First, what you just described, one, if it happened, its wrong. Lets say that. Second as you described it, and i read The New York Times article, unnamed official in a Closeddoor Session reportedly said this. It still meets the definition of hearsay at this point. If it happened, its wrong. On the other hand i would like some sort of validation beyond that which i just described. Senator Bill Cassidy, thank you for joining me. Thanks, dana. Thank you. We could have been one Trump Move away from a fullblown coup attempt. Chairman of the committee investigating a plot to overturn the election inside the Justice Department joins me next. Cori bush is here after her Marathon Protest to stop evictions. It was an easy decision to apply with sofi loans, just based on the Interest Rate and how much i would be saving. There was only one that stood out and one that actually made sense and that was sofi personal loans. It felt so freeing. 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Both officials familiar with the matter provided detailed accounts in which lawyers sought to deploy the departments res resources to push trumps false claims of voter fraud. Joining me to discuss this is the chairman of the committee investigating all of that, democratic senator Dick Durbin of illinois. Thank you so much for join ing me. Your committee interviewed Jeffrey Rosen who is, was, the acting Attorney General for Donald Trump at The End of his presidency. Rosen was reportedly getting calls from trump nearly every day about overturning Election Results. What did he tell you . He told us a lot. Seven hours of testimony. I might quickly add, this was done on a bipartisan basis, democratic staff and republican legal staff asking questions during this period of time. Mr. Rosen appeared voluntarily, which says a lot, and cooperated with us. The Justice Department had set it up for us and said were waving any privilege. He can speak to any issue. Were not holding back. I thought he was very open. Theres a lot there, an awful lot there. You can imagine seven hours of testimony. And it really is important that we ask these questions because what was going on in the department of justice was frightening from a constitutional point of view. To think that Bill Barr left, resi resigned after he had announced he didnt see irregularities in the election, and then his replacement was under extraordinary pressure, the president of the united states, even to the point where they were talking about replacing him. That pressure was on. So you said theres a lot there. There is a lot there. What did he tell you specifically about the pressure that the former president placed on him directly . I cant get into that at this moment. I can tell you ultimately there will be a report. There are more people we will tlie to bring in. I would like to bring in Jeffrey Clark, for example. He was the Heir Apparent in Trumps Mind if rosen was not going to do his bidding. And rosen stood fast and didnt. So there was a tense period of time there at a moment when the president was going to put his own man as Attorney General. I understand youre not ready to give me the details of what he said during those seven hours, but i guess the question, the key question is whether the former president , when he was still president , tried to get Jeffrey Rosen to overturn the Election Results. It was not that direct, but he was asking him to do certain things related to states, election returns, which he refused to do. He just said im not going to do that. He was being asked by the White House, leadership in the White House to meet with certain people who had these wild, bizarre theories of why the Election Wasnt valid and he refused to do it. I have to say, history is going to be very kind to mr. Rosen when its all over. When he was initially poappoint, i didnt think that was the case i was wrong. When you were listening to that testimony yesterday, what was the most shocking to you . Just how directly personally involved the president was, the pressure he was putting on Jeffrey Rosen. It was real. Very real. And it was very specific. This president is not subtle when he wants something, the former president is not subtle when he wants something. Its a good thing for america we had a person like rosen in that position, who withstood the pressure. Sounds like this say man in Donald Trump who actually knew about the levers of power that he had to potentially try to use to keep the Election Results from happening. Yes. And i also say that there were forces within the White House who were also pushing back against the president s wild views. But having said that, it was a very tense period in history. Were going to get to the bottom of it. Voluntary cooperation of people like Jeffrey Rose N and Richard Don Hue is invaluable. Theres another interview coming up this week. Well keep pushing forward on this. Now were getting some real results. I want to ask about Richard Don Donahue but who within the White House was pushing back . I cant tell you. You gave me a teaser there. I know but the president s instincts were just flat out wrong when he tried to held on to this big lie. Fortunately some people saw through it and tried their best to calm him down. Youve spoken with the acting Attorney General deputy Richard Donahue on friday. According to notes released he tried to tell his boss just tell the president the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me and our congressmen. I cant get into specific testimony but im afraid that was the impression that was clear. The president was looking for a green light from an Attorney General. Bill Barr Couldnt do it anymore. Rosen stepped in and wasnt willing to do it. And President Trump said find another one. Think about that. There are also questions about Jeffrey Clark, the other man you said you want to talk tto about whether or not he interacted with republican elected officials, particularly Pennsylvania Congressman Scott pa parry. What have you learned about that . That part, i havent seen any testimony from that. Were going to do our best to ask mr. Clark to come in and tell the story from his point of view. Are you worried that there were sitting Members Of Congress who were involved in this . Its a legitimate question. Do you believe that Jeffrey Clark is going to come in or will you have to subpoena him . I dont know. It will be interesting. He has nothing to fall back on now with the department of justice policy. Merrick garland has opened the door. For personal reasons or other reasons he may decide not to testify but i hope he will. Former Attorney General Bill Barr, do you think he will come in voluntarily . I hope so. We have a lot of questions, related to this and others, during the tenure he was Attorney General. Will you subpoena if he doesnt . It takes bipartisan vote to subpoena. I dont know that well be able to accomplish that. People think that the Joushry Committee can send out subpoenas and go. Its much more restrained. How help pulverizers would it be to speak with former president Donald Trump . Not likely. What happens shocked you the most, generally speaking, in terms of what youve seen . You said youve been looking into this since january. I guess the thought that we have come to accept that this president in his bizarre conduct, we came to accept over four years as normal. Its outrageous. When you look back on the Richard Nixon Episode and the Saturday Night massacre, people out of principle were turning around and threatening to resign. Same thing happen heerd, incidentally, within the department of justice. There was a point where virtually everyone in authority in the department of justice was going to walk if the president had his way. These are moments in history you never want to see repeated and with Donald Trump, they were. Is what youre seeing and describing an attempted coup . Well, they were going through the ordinary process. It wasnt as if the president was removing the Attorney General and making pronouncements, which would happen anyway coup, i guess, by classic definition. It was leading Up To that process. Last question, have you spoken to the current Attorney General, merrick garland, and do you think theres potential for criminal charges . I dont know the answer to that. Its too early in the investigation. I want to talk about infrastructure. Sure. The deal on the floor as we speak. Its poised to pass in coming days. Theres a group of moderate house democrats who wrote to speaker Nancy Pelosi and said please back off your pledge to hold the Infrastructure Bill until the senate passes the 3. 5 trillion reconciliation plan. This is part of the letter. This say onceinacentury investment that deserves its own consideration without regard to other legislation. After years of waiting, the country cannot afford unnecessary delays to finally deliver on physical Infrastructure Package. So if it is that vital, should the house pass it right away . Dana, let me say initially, the real question in the senate, perhaps in the house as well, is whether the center will hold. Lease a question now why were waiting, doing nothing, day after day after day. There are forces still trying to stop this bipartisan agreement in the united states senate. You just had Bill Cassidy on. He has become a real friend. We worked together on this i trust him. He trusts me. We had candid conversations. We considered more amendments, 22, with this bill than we had with a year under Senator Mcconnell in previous years. Moving forward, what can we accomplish . Nancy pelosi has an extraordinary challenge, fourvote margin. That isnt much when you really sit down and count votes. I dont want to really project the strategy. I want her to do it. Shes as accomplished as they come. I can understand people want to see an Infrastructure Bill passed with No Strings Attached but she has to hold not just enough votes for the Infrastructure Bill but the follow on budget resolution. I give her all the flexibility she needs to reach that goal. Before i let you go, i have to ask about the 3. 5 trillion reconciliation bill. Seems as though youre thinking you and your colleagues are thinking about stretching the limits of the senate rules, trying to get Voting Rights in. Senator klobuchar mentioned. You mentioned daca. How much are you going to try to stuff in there . This is a onceinapoliticallifetime opportunity. Its long overdue. Everyone knows the system is broken. We see it on our borders and know it internally. There is precedence. The republicans included Immigration Measures in 2005 in the same budget resolution. I think its not an unreasonable request and its long overdue. Senator dick dur bbin, judiciary chair, senate majority whip. Youve got a lot of titles. And grandfather, thats another one. You bet. Thanks very much. Thank you, dana. Sitin on the steps of the capitol gets the president s attention and throws millions of americans a lifeline. How did Cori Bush get the White House to act . She joins me next. And you need it here. And here. And here. Which is why the scientific expertise that helps Operating Rooms stay clean is now helping the places you go every day too. Seek a commitment to clean. Look for the Ecolab Science certified seal. When i was young nonononono please please no. I never needed anyone. Front desk. Yes, hello. 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But before, i Cant Help but wonder, given the fact that you raised those kids, now theyre grown up, what did they think of your efforts . To them its like this is what mom does. You know, Mom Fights for everyone. And theyve seen me do this, sleeping out on the streets to help in my own community, to raise awareness of Whats H happening to our unhoused Community Members to Fighting For justice for michael brown, who, you know, the anniversary of his death is tomorrow. So my children have seen this over and over again. They stand with me. You know, theyve been radicalized, too. So, this is who they want to see their mother this is who they know. Your efforts resulted in the cdc issuing a new 60day Eviction Freeze for people living in areas with high or substantial covid transmission, which basically covers almost the whole country right now. As you know, even President Biden said hes not really sure whether this move is constitutional. Its already facing legal challenges. So if the courts ultimately strike it down, whats your next move . Well, so thats why i rushed back to st. Louis to make sure that and weve been telling weve been saying it nationally, that we have to do the work now to get this money out. We have to do the work to make sure that our states and our local governments are able to release this money, get this money out into the hands of the people who need it the most. So, were telling tenants, were telling landlords to, you know, go online, or show up at the clinics that are happening around the country and get apply for this money and for our local government and states, please get this money out. This has to happen. 60 days, we may not have. So we are pushing really hard for people to apply. Especially locally, ive heard people arent applying. We understand there have been barriers to people applying and those resources being able to be moved. We are working out those kinks right now. I want to ask you about an oped you wrote for cnn. Com. In it you said, quote, now that we have again demonstrated what grassroots movements are capable of, theres No Limit to what we can do. The change we have been marching, organizing and pushing for is within reach. We just have to take it. House speaker Nancy Pelosi seems to have taken a different stance. On friday, she drew a distinction. She has done this before, between being an advocate and being a legislator. Whats your response . Im both. Im both. Before i walked into congress after i won my primary, i started talking about being a po politivist. Its okay to have both. When we legislate, yes, we have the power of the pen, the power of the purse. Were able to write bills, cosponsor, you need that. But the Activist Side of me, that advocate is the one who remembers what it was like to be in positions where i felt overlooked and neglected and unheard. And so many others in our communities im a nurse. I am always advocating. Thats who thats what we do. And so having both of those, thats that pressure, the activist is going to bring the pressure. The activist is going to highlight the issues so that the legislator can then hit the ball out of the park. Congresswoman i want to ask about the criticism youre facing about comments you made in an interview this past week. I want our viewers to listen. Im going to make sure i have security, because i know i have had attempts on my life. And i have too much work to do. There are too many people that need help right now for me to allow that. So if i end up spending 200,000, if i spend 10 more on it, i get to be here to do the work. So, suck it up. Defunding the police has to happen. We need to defund the police. So, i know youve seen repu republicans are pointing to the fact that you said you have your own security. But almost in the same breath advocating for defunding the police. I do want to emphasize, i understand you have Security Protection because you have received multiple death threats. The tip ive played is being used in Attack Ads against not you not just you, but other democrats. So could those comments end up being hurtful to your fellow democrats politically speaking . I think what we have to look at is the fact that i made it to congress in 2020. I was elected to congress. And we are still fighting this same fight. Were still fighting to save black lives. That was not that work was not done before i got here. This is the reason why i ran, was to save lives, save my sons life. It was because michael brown, who were Fighting For, still trying to get justice for, its because he didnt get justice and byers and powell didnt get justice and so many others. That is why. Because that was not fixed before i got here, to come at me and say youre the reason we have these problems. No. The reason we have these problems is because those that were in power and could have fixed this problem before now didnt and it cost lives. And so now that im here, we just introduced the Peoples Response Act to make sure that we are looking at the money that should be going to Social Safetiness to make sure our Community Members who are living with Mental Health issues are able to function and live in society the way that anyone would ask to. So i dont believe, as far as my colleagues, you know, i absolutely empathize. I empathize. The same thing that the republicans would do, which is figure out how to work with this, thats what we have to do. My job is to save lives in my community. When were talking about every single year increasing the budget for police and then the budget for like Health And Human Services continuing to shrink, and st. Louis being Number One for Police Violence Year after year after year, Number One. Number two for Homicides Year after year congresswoman. When were adding more money to the police but were still dying. Something has to change. Congresswoman i hear what you are saying but i also heard you say you think its a coms problem. Is it that . No. Im saying thats another way that you can tackle this. You have to tackle it from more than one place. We have to work on what we want to say. What is our message . But we also have to understand, we have to save lives, too. St. Louis cant keep being put on the back burner. Andheim here to stand up for my community. Congresswoman Cori Bush, thank you so much for joining me this morning. Absolutely. Thank you. Up next, a revealing conversation with one of the highestranking female staffers in the White House. When it comes to 5g coverage, tmobile is the best thing on the menu. Tmobile. Americas largest, fastest, most reliable 5g network. Ok everyone, our mission is to provide complete, balanced nutrition for strength and energy. 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Write down Phone Numbers for your parents, siblings and neighbors. Pick a place to meet your family if you are not together and cant go home. Remind your parents to pack an emergency supply kit. Making a plan might feel like homework, but it will help you and your family stay safe during an emergency. She started on a famous astronauts political Campaign And Hasnt stopped launching through glass ceilings ever since. Bidens senior adviser anita dunn, is leaving the White House this month. We went there to see her before she goes. Its our latest installment of bad ass women of washington. You first came here as an Intern In 78. Wow. Yes. For President Carter . For President Carter. But it was a mans world, a total mans world. Anita dunn was one of the first women in politics to change that, eventually landing in the Inner Circle of two winning campaigns and administrations, President Obama and now President Biden. As a Junior Staffer in 1984 on john glenns campaign, she set a high bar for hers. I made the decision that the next time i wanted to work on a president ial campaign, i was going to be at the table. So, i didnt work on campaigns until i was at a point where thats where my seat was. Dunn earned that seat by working as a congressional aide, then political consultant for countless democratic president ial campaigns but it was hard to find work during the 1996 election when she was pregnant. Is it true that only female candidates would hire you . If you look at who hired me that year, yes, that is quite true. Someone would call me and say ive got this candidate in town, i want to bring them over to meet you and i was coming down the stairs in my most pregnant self and i could watch the candidates face like and then you didnt get the job . I wouldnt get hired. Of course not. I wanted people to know i was a mom. I talked openly, im not going to be in or cant be on that call. That was pretty risky back then. But i felt it was important. If you have senior women who are openly talking about their children and the time theyre going to set aside for their children, and the parameters of their relationships. Im leaving the office every day at this time for pick up at daycare, it gives other women permission. It was intentional . It was quite intentional, yes. Now many of the women she is surrounded by in the biden White House have small children. She is known for having an open door policy. Im not a big believer in mentorship. Although, im happy to Mentor Anybody who wants to walk through my door and get some advice. Im a huge believer in sponsorship. Whats the difference . Oh, the difference is huge, dana. Mentorship is im happy to give you advice. Im happy to be your sounding board. Im happy to be your Wailing Wall when things dont go well. But sponsorship is an active role in somebodys career. Its not just im going to give you advice but im going to actively promote you. Her sponsors were men, since there were so few women. This is a Recommendation Letter written some 45 years ago by her first White House boss, Carter Chief of staff hamilton jordan. Dunn is widely credited for turning around the Biden Campaign during the 2020 primaries after brutal losses in iowa and new hampshire. At The End of the day its about Setting Priorities and not being scared to make decisions. People in politics who are scared to make decisions are losing Campaign Managers and losing operatives. So make a Decision And Stick with it . And stick with it. By the way, youre going to make a wrong decision occasionally. There are people who are paralyzed about making a mistake. And that is, in politics, one of the worst things you can do, is allow yourself to get paralyzed. While President Biden is known for forgiving, it is done ever the loyal staffer who doesnt forget. Is that fair, that you hold grudges . I have gotten that reputation. I think most people who have worked with me will tell you im actually a pretty nice person who does forgive. And i move on. But i also believe that in politics, it is important sometimes for people to understand that there are lines they should not cross. As a trailblazing woman in democratic politics, dunn said reading the New York Attorney General report on andrew cuomos Sexual Harassment allegations was painful. You and i were on Capitol Hill a long time and we see the powerful relationships that can exist in politics. Reading about the experiences those 11 women had gone through, you know, felt like 45 years of watching, you know, america in many respects. She says she only joined this administration temporarily, to help with the covid crisis and is soon leaving. My first ambition was to be a sportscaster. Really . Yes. She may not have lived that dream. Im a very competitive person, dana. 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On this program i press newsmakers about the news of the day. But Tomorrow Night Youll see a different kind of Interview Show where i spend time with influential people to get a sense of the person behind the public face. First up, being aoc. Its one of Congresswoman Alexandria ocasiocortezs most personal Tv Interviews to date, but we also talked about any plans she may have for higher office. Are you going to challenge Senator Schumer . In a primary race . Heres the thing, is that and i know it drives everybody nuts, but the way that i really feel about this and the way that i really approach my politics and my political career is that i do not look at things, and i do not set my course positionally. I know there is a lot of people who do not believe that, but i really i cant operate the way that i operate and do the things that i do in politics while trying to be aspiring to other things or calculating to other things. 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