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And propel us into the future. From Pandemic Star to politic al parriah. I never touched anyone inappropriately. That is just not who i am. The governor must resign. Can he no longer do the job. Inside politics, the best stories sourced by the best reporters now. Im Manu Raju in for abby. 108,753, the new number of cases a day right now, the highest in six months. In 50. 1, half the country is fully vaccinated, a major milestone, but that means half the country still is not. Today, about 400 people will die because of the Delta Variant in this country. A tragedy. Virtually all of these deaths are preventable if people had gotten vaccinated. Get vaccinated, please. Its safe. It works. It will save lives, maybe save your life. Polls show most unvaccinated adults say they wont ever get the shot. Messages like bidens are just not breaking through. Perhaps this one will, from a 43yearold Father in the icu. Any second, it could be over. I cant go back and change it. If i could, i would go get the vaccination and take my family with me. If youre on the fence, i want you to take a very sharp evaluation of what your life means to you. Get the vaccination. Please. Cnn medical Analyst Dr. Jonathan reiner and times. Rise in cases, 50 of the country fully vaccinated. To you, which is the more significant metric . Will we ever reach a point of heard immunity in this country . I would rather talk about community immunity. Were such a Divide Country parts of the yunited States Wil have effectively community immunity. Already in vermont probably thats what you have. So many people almost 90 of adults have been vaccinated in vermont that you really do have a level of immunity. In places, particularly in the south, where in some place only a third of adults have been vaccinated, we wont reach that for a long time. But the level of deaths were seeing now is the tip of the iceberg. 500 americans die d yesterday, but death is a lagging indicator. Typically it lags if he cans by two to three weeks. Two to three weeks ago there were 33,000 cases per day that. Generated 500 deaths. Right now were three times that level so i suspect by The End of this month well be tipping 1500 deaths per day. Almost every one of those folks unvaccinated. Were seeing these vaccinated mandates come in, such as new York City, the federal government, some states talking about doing the same. New York City, you go to a restaurant, broadway show, see a movie, you have to show that youve been vaccinated. We could see this across the country. To you, how much will that change things, dr. Reiner . Should the federal government go further than it has so far . I think mandates will move the needle significantly. The federal Government Hasnt done nearly enough. First of all, we need to see the military vaccinated right now. If you remember in march of 20201,000 sailors were infected and one died. I want to see vaccines mandated and not jest testing. Testing tells you if youre infected, vaccines prevent you from getting infected. I think the federal government can force hospitals to get vaccinated by withhold willing medicare funds. If you dont mandate vaccines by october 1st, well withhold 10 of your medicare payments, you bet all the medical hospitals will get vaccinated. Same thing for longterm care facilities. United airlines announced all their employees will be required to be vaccinated. American based airlines will not do that. You see President Biden getting much more confrontational with governor, calling out governors as he did earlier this week. I say to these governors, please help. If youre not going to help, at least get out of the way of people trying to do the right thing. If youre trying to restrict people, impose mandates, if youre trying to ruin their jobs, their livelihoods and their small business, if you are trying to lock people down, i am standing in your way and im standing for the people of florida. Of course, that last comment there from florida governor ron desantis. Is there a risk here for the president in picking fights with these governors . You know, the last president picked a lot of fights with a lot of governors from the other party as part of his response to the coronavirus pandemic. It was wildly unproductive. In this case, President Biden has for a long time tried not to pick these fights. The White House is frustrated and theyre letting that hang out. And certainly its good for Governor Desantis to draw attention to himself, to get that oxygen from thesefies but the White House doesnt have a lot of options other than sort of making this noise to try to get the american people to try to make individual choices in states where local governments and businesses are being prevented from Making Choices for their customers. You see the dip, too, in the president s handling of covid. Of course, that was central to his campaign. Recent polls showing him here dropping 12 points in three months. You see now its 53 compare d o 65 in may. Molly, should democrats, the White House, be worried about how the public is viewing this and what is turning into a liability here . Theres a feeling that the administration does not have a plan for whats going on right now. That was the central promise of Joe Bidens campaign. We didnt know at the time of the president ial election was happening a year ago that the Vaccine Bob ready at this point. The idea was that, you know, trump had been all over the map and not paying attention and disorganized and now we see an administration that the right hand doesnt seem to know what the left hand is doing. The president is begging people, pleading, waging rhetorical fights with governors. Where is the coordinated response . Thats what you see people responding to when you see those numbers going down, this feeling like not only did we have this surge of optimism that now appears unwarranted, but just wanting to know that somebody has their hand on the Steering Wheel and has some vision for how to get us out of this. We showed that clip from Governor Desantis, threatening School Systems that have fought to require masks, other mitigation measures. Look at the headlines in florida from the past week here. A lot of concerns about florida, of course, being an epicenter of whats happening here. What is desantis calculation in digging in, political calculation and why is he taking this stance . He has a Reelection Fight statewide that hes focused on. He also has those views toward 2024 and possibly the president ial election. This say Republican Party that is obviously still looking for its identity in the posttrump era. Hes someone who is trying to define that, specifically on this issue of the Coronavirus Response and specifically how republicans can push back against President Biden. This is an administration being pulled between Public Health advice, increasing compulsory measures, not wanting to seem overly harsh to those who havent gotten vaccinated. Thats created an opening for folks like desantis to push on that. What we dont know is if that will pay off for him in that first Reelection Fight and going forward. President trump tried to do some of this stuff and got backlash from elected officials who want people to take the virus seriously. A national play to republicanbased audience to do anything to oppose President Biden. Let me say things in florida are not just bad, they are epically bad. The Case Rate per capita in florida, over 90 per 100,000 is among the worst in the world. Louisiana is worse, and botswana is worse. Thats it. If florida were another country, the u. S. Would consider banning travel from florida. It is extraordinarily bad. And the Governors Statement that we can either have a free state or a biomedically locked down state say false dichotomy. You can do both. He is doing nothing to stem this in florida and its getting worse there. Heading into the School Year, doctor, are you concerned going back to virtual learning in some places, kids having to learn from home . How concerned are you about the School Year at this point in florida and elsewhere . It depends where you live. Where i live in maryland, Case Rates are still fairly low n that environment, you can have Inperson Learning with masks and frequent testing and get it done in person. I dont see how that can happen in florida when Mask Mandates are basically banned. And nothing is being done. My biggest fear in the fall is that kids are going to get infected very quickly. Were starting to see that in states that have had early opening in schools. Hundreds of kids are getting infected. Theyre going to bring it home to families who are largely unvaccinated. Clearly the pandemic not over. More to talk about in the days ah ahead. Up next, new details reveal how involved former President Trump was to change the 2020 election results. Think of what peanuts have given Humanity Fuel for vast Migrations Sustenance for Mountaineering Expeditions and long journeys across the world but most importantly . They give us something to eat when we drink beer. Planters. A nut above. Someone once told me, that i should get used to people staring. So i did. Its okay, you can stare. When youre a twotime gold medalist, it comes with the territory. Whats the 1 Retinol Brand used most by dermatologists . Its neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair® smooths the look of fine lines in 1week, Deep Wrinkles in 4. So you can kiss wrinkles goodbye neutrogena® welcome to allstate. Phone Notification where weve just lowered our Auto Rates. 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It was a violent attempt to overturn the will of the american people, to seek power at all costs, to replace the ballot with brute force, to destroy, not to build. Not without democracy, nothing is possible. With it, everything is. Washington post joins our conversation now. Tim, i want to start with you, though. What we dont know from these investigations, was Jeffrey Clark the top Trump Official in the Justice Department, was he acting on his own or doing it at the direction of the president trying to overturn the election, subvert the will of the voters . What have we learned that shows the mindset within the Justice Department at that precarious t time. Theres a lot of notes that have been released where Justice Department officials are. Obviously we know the Attorney General left. Bill barr left. As he called into question whether there was any fraud in the election. Right. He said i didnt see any fraud and im out of here. Zblfr time we get new information, its clear from what the inferred by the president s public statements that he was doing everything he possibly could to try to change the outcome of a free and fair election. Molly, really interesting juxtaposition with biden as he honored Police Officers who fought to defend the capitol as were learning about details from the former president. You wrote about michael fanone, d. C. Metropolitan Police Officer who was brutally injured that day. This quote caught my attention, this excerpt from your piece. Michael fanone said i had convinced myself, youre Vo Vocalizing the opinions of thousands and thousands of Police Officers, but im starting to think im vocalizing the beliefs of just one. While there are still some officers very supportive of me, i can count them on one hand. The vast majority of Police Officers, would they have been there, been on the other side of those battle lines January 6th . What do you think about that . This piece, and thank you for featuring it, it was really about whats happened since January 6th not what happened that day and our failure as a country to come together to just agree on what happened and take it seriously. Thats been incredibly painful for folks like officer fanone, who have now seen what happened that day to be picked apart, politicized by everyone from President Trump and on down. A large number of people in this Country Refuse to believe what we all saw happen that day and a lot more who dont just want to deal with it. Just want to move on. And so, you know, this is for Police Officers in this country, whose profession has been so politicized and who have been under so much pressure, its a very difficult situation. Youre still seeing, despite all of this youre still seeing trumps hold on the Republican Party has not gone in a lot of ways, particularly when it comes to Senate Republican partyies, house republicans. We saw this week the president trying to exert his influence over the Georgia Senate race, key race. Hes trying to push the former nfl running back herschel walker, into the race. And one of his opponents given that walker lives in texas. Hes ready. Im getting ready. And we can run with the big dogs. Im ready. Ive been ready and herschel already run with the big dogs. Ive had georgia plates all my life. So, paul, is trump a positive or negative force for 2022 . In terms of the primaries he will still be a positive force. Im not sure he can take h herschel walker, while a star at georgia in college, won a Heisman Trophy there, national championship. Im not sure he can take him and put him over the top in a primary but in a lot of other primaries he will continue to be a force. When you get to the general election, he has not been a positive force in the last two general elections. If you look at the numbers. House democrats have won a majority of votes the last two, hold a majority of the seats. The senate is in democratic hands. I think that dynamic continues to play out. He wont be on the ballot. His most fervent voters had not be turning out. If he is a vocal force, he could propel a lot of suburban voters. A poll came out, 49 Believe Trump will run. Just 33 believe Joe Biden will run for reelection. What do you think about that . Thats interesting. We are so used to trump publicly proclaiming his desire to be back in the White House. Weve heard that floating about speaker of the house, someone who wants to be in the mix. I dont know about that 33 number. This is an administration that sees itself in there for the long term. We know this is a democratic administration that doesnt plan to go anywhere too fast here. This is Donald Trump who still has that hold. Not only on the Republican Party but on the scene at large. Not only in midterms and primary races, but also just in the conversation about what were defining. Come willing out of January 6th, he helped rest that narrative away from being specifically the attempts we saw to overturn the election to being up against black lives matter folks could have been there, the Conspirator Orrial lies we heard on January 6th. That was to partly appease President Trump. He has control over the narrative and mechanisms of the Republican Party, we cannot doubt his influence is still large. If youre the biden folks looking at that, youre laughing, because they plan to be here for a while. Big agenda. Perfect segue to our next segment. 200 days in office, President Biden is closer than ever to delivering a key campaign promise. This is andy, my schwab financial consultant. Heres andy listening to my goals and making plans. This is us talking taxsmart investing, managing risk, and all the Ways Schwab can help me invest. 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Its going to pass the senate. Bill haggerty, tennessee republican, is holding up the vote. But its going to pass. It gets to the house and things get much more complicated over there. Look at the Back And Forth that came out Last Night. A letter was sent to me by house democratic moderates roadwaying concerns about the strategy from Nancy Pelosi, this onceinacentury investment deserves its own consideration without other legislation and the country cannot afford unnecessary delays to finally deliver on a physical infrastructure package. Liberals, Ilhan Omar says the Reconciliation Bill needs to be tied to the Infrastructure Bill if moderates are serious about passing the bill. Alex Alexandria Ocasiocortez says just because its bipartisan doesnt mean its good. Look at Wall Street bailouts. Nancy pelosi made clear she will not move on the bipartisan bill until the senate passes the larger 3. 5 trillion democratic only Reconciliation Bill. Its very tricky. Weve spent the last seven months covering manchinitis in the senate. What is he going to do . Hes one vote. Can he make something pass or fail. Over In The House, Nancy Pelosi deals with a similar margin. 220 democrats, 212 republicans. Any four democrats, any one democrat just needs three friends and that means she doesnt have enough votes to pass it. Thats even a smaller percentage than one senator. You are now going to watch as the moderates in that letter you got Last Night that you scooped on, there are going to be members of the coalition who say take the easy victory now on the bipartisan infrastructure, but then youre going to have the squad, Alexandria Ocasiocortez, Cori Bush and others, to form their little faction. All you need is four. When you have four or more you can try to leverage yourself the way Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema have been trying to leverage their modern center rifts. Also the question is Joe Biden. Will he get involved to twist Arms In The House to get this through . He didnt really in the senate. You think he will In The House . Remember, he did have conversations, many conversations with Joe Manchin and senator sinema. In the house im sure he has some someway with moderates. Im not sure how much sway he would have. Something is better than nothing. So at some point, democrats will make that calculation. It just depends on which one does make that calculation and when. In the meantime, it is this very fearful balancing act. Any little movement in One Direction and you could lose more people and youre in trouble. Its a real challenge. The former president , Donald Trump, he did come out strongly against the bipartisan Infrastructure Bill. Republicans in the senate, 18 of them, voted to move forward, Mitch Mcconnell one of them, ignoring those calls from the president. Listen to how senator rob portman, ohio republican, central to the negotiation, talked about Donald Trump when asked about it last week. I encourage President Trump to take credit for this. President trumps effort to raise the level of awareness about the need for Infrastructure Improvement should help us get this done. He proposed a 1. 5 trillion Infrastructure Bill. Of course hes not taking credit for this. Hes about to tank this. Whats it say about his influential on Capitol Hill that they essentially ignored him, half the conference . Its remarkable the degree to which they ignored him, as if he never said any he has been putting out statement after statement the past couple of weeks, going very hard against this infrastructure deal. And if you go to the united States Senate and ask republicans about it, its like what statements . No. Theyre just completely oblivious to it. I didnt see that tweet. Right. Once youre not in office any anymore, but also as Senator Portman was saying, the sort of hipocrisy of someone strongly in favor because he knows how popular it is with the american people. Thats why he pushed it. Because democrats and republicans on a Voter Level really support the idea of Infrastructure Spending and so for the former president it looks very nakedly like he knows this is popular. He wanted to do it because it was popular. If the current president does it and its possibpular, its to j Bidens Credit and he doesnt want that win. Republican squabbling, lets talk about democratic Internal Squabbling as well. Progressives last week in ohio set back the special election, Bernie Sanders back a candidate, losing to a congressional black caucus, candidate in the cleveland area. House zrivenlth listen to how a top house democrat Hakeem Jeffries, had a Warning Speebing to the new york times. The extreme left is obsessed about talking trash with mainstream democrats on twitter. When the majority of the electorate constitute mainstream democrats at the polls. In the posttrump era, the antiestablishment line of attack is lame. War of words between Hakeem Jeffries and justice democrat coalition. This, though, speaks to the squeeze that the left is in right now. You have that party trying to say were not a Rubber Stamp for Joe Biden to say anything. We represent the more energized section of the base, the more Activist Wing of the base, but they are also under real pressure to help deliver a democratic win for this administration. And theyve said bipartisanship was not going to be possible in washington. It seems slightly possible now. That actually tests the core of a lot of the messages they have been saying over the last year and a half. I think this is also not only ohio. You have the new York City mayors race, a tough moment for progressives, too. And then the central problem. Can they get that message to working class black voters, Working Class Latino Voters who make up the Core Base of the democratic party . Until they get that community motivated around those messages they will continue to lose to the Hakeem Jeffries around the world. Cori bush, someone who overcame that same level of opposition, certainly showed her strength in the last couple of weeks. You have two sides of the coin for the left of the party here, both of which could be either encourage ing or dismayed. Squabbling not going away. The economy central to a lot of these concerns as well, something well talk about next. Is the economy strong enough to withstand the Delta Variant . And you need it here. And here. And here. Which is why the scientific expertise that helps Operating Rooms stay clean is now helping the places you go every day too. Seek a commitment to clean. Look for the Ecolab Science certified seal. Tech every customer has their own safelite story. 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Blockbuster Jobs Report on friday. The White House is celebrating, too. Lets Take A Look at the biden economy as we head into the fall. The Jobs Report. This was a Blockbuster Jobs report. Nearly 1 Million jobs created. Look at the unemployment rate, 5. 4 . The lowest now since before the pandemic began. Wages growing as well. Driven in large part by jobs, leisure, and hospitality industries. Look at the hiring situation as well. Realworld examples of higher wages means workerfriendly eco jobs. Compare where we are now to where we were at the beginning of the pandemic. Cnns business and moodymoodys analytics. Last year february 2020, we were at 92 after a major dip that led to where we are now. But still 8 percentage points off of where we were. This represents potentially trillions of dollars in economic output. Why is that still an issue . Look at this map. Delta variant the dominant strain throughout the united states. 95 of people live in counties with high or substantial community spread. So the july Jobs Report is just a snapshot in time around midjuly, before new cdc masking guidelines went into place. Lets not forget nearly 6 Million jobs that havent come back. Biden, though, still optimistic. Says theres more work to be done and his covid and economic pl plans are working. While our economy is far from complete, and while we doubtlessly will have ups and downs along the way as we continue to battle the Delta Surge of covid, what is indisputable now is this. The Biden Plan is working. The Biden Plan produces results and the Biden Plan is moving the country forward. The Wall Street journals Greg Lib joins our conversation. Its encouraging for a number of reasons. There had been some lagging in those numbers a few months ago. That seems to be over. The threemonth average running over 1 Million jobs when you include the revisions. And the other really positive thing in this report is that we worried for a long time, just like after the last recession, all those millions of people unemployed would stay unemployed for years, we call that scarring of the Labor Force. Big nudrops in numbers of peopl who are permanently unemployed and even when you adjust for the fact that some people arent looking for work, we saw improvement. The Labor Force got a little bit bigger. No, no sign yet of the Delta Variant. Of course, big Question Mark going forward. That is only just hitting us. The president is worried about it. The market is worried about it. I think its going to be okay. The reason why is weve seen with each successive wave of this virus its had less economic impact. Couple of reasons for that. I think people have learned to adjust their behavior, medical interventions are more effective. And governors and mayors, for better or worse, do not have the political desire to create more disruptions. Were seeing Mask Mandates coming back. Nowhere have you seen restrictions or lockdowns come back. Look how the White House, the president s handling is looked at by the american public. 43 say they approve, disapprove, 48 . Those numbers have to be a concern for the White House. I think what the White House is particularly concerned about is what happens in the next month with schools and maybe in the months after that. You have the Education Secretary come into the white House Briefing Room and talk about willing it into existence. Schools are opening in the fall. The question is if they can stay open. This is absolutely critical because parents whose ability to go back to work and retain jobs are all tied to those kids in school. The economic question is what happens with schools which is why the White House is fighting so much with governors about Mask Mandates. This is how the democratic con congressional Campaign Committee told democrats in a Closeddoor Meeting recently if the election were held today, we would lose, according to a source who i talked to, who Heard Maloney say this. You wrote in tthe washington post, how much concern is there about the Economy And Failure to have a sharp political message heading into the midterms . Gregs points, all those Data Points show a strong economy. Usually thats where theyre most worried about heading into an election, but they see a disconnect to their not getting credit for the economy. And theres fear that theyre taking their eyes off of the messaging of were bringing america back. We just pumped 1. 9 trillion into it. All those stimulus checks people got. Theyve already kind of forgotten them as bidens numbers are softening. Nancy pelosi, chuck schumer, the dnc, have given people marching orders. When they go home for august recess, they are all supposed to be holding events about what they have already done. And theyve tried to slim it down. Dont go home with like the 48point democratic vintage things. Instead its were cutting your taxes because of Child Tax Cr credit, were building roads and bridges and lower Health Care costs. Keep it simple. Go ahead. The polling data, people feel really good about the Job Market right now. Its kind of a shocker. The thing thats Eroding Support is inflation. 15 . The 95 of americans who kept their jobs, theyre paying more for air fares, cars, seeing rents go up. Every company is complaining about shortages of metal, lumber. The hard thing for the administration here is theres nothing they can do about it. These things are all structural features of an economy slowly coming back to life. You know, theres Nothing Biden can do to suddenly ramp up production of Semi Conductors in taiwan, nothing. Youre not going to go to the federal reserve and suddenly raise rates to 15 . That wouldnt help. Right. Theres no solution to that but time. I think time is on Bidens Side here. Most economists think by next year most of these shortages will have resolved and those concerns will be on the back burner. Meantime look at the companies that have had to raise prices here. All major brands having to do so in the last week ahead. Clearly concerns, molly, about inflation, should that be a political concern for democrats in 2022. Yeah. Weve seen this become one of the main republican lines of attack against the administration, because its obvious in everybodys life. Everybody is feeling it, seeing it. The feeling of the administration is exactly as greg was saying. Theyre waiting it out, very nervously, hoping theyre right that it is temporary. Theyre continuing to insist its temporary. We wont know until it goes away. 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In albany, a political firestorm, claim of Sexual Misconduct against Governor Andrew cuomo, the senate is ready to impeach him after a report he sexually harassed 11 women. Cuomo said he never acted inappropriately. I do it with everyone, black and white, young and old, straight and lgbtq. Powerful people, friends, strangers. People who i might on the street. But top democrats say its time for him to go. Take one thing at a time here. I think he should resign. Because of these allegations, the governor has lost the confidence of his governing partners and of many new yorkers, and he should step down. Its time for him to leave. Let the Lieutenant Governor take over. But, molly, a majority of new yorkers, top democrats, as you heard from biden on down, are calling on cuomo to step aside. Can he weather this storm, these calls to resign, an Impeachment Inquiry and now a criminal complaint . Its getting harder and harder to see how that would happen, just given the sheer volume of things coming at him at this point. There is a feeling, you know, he is notoriously strongwilled, i guess you could say, a difficult and determined politician. And so there is a feeling that he will make this as difficult as possible. Its not going to go without a fight. Hes not clearly, he hasnt resigned thus far. If he was going to, he probably would have done it by now. It could be a very long, drawn out and ugly process. There is a feeling that the walls are closing in. And youve written excessively about other governors and scandals like Governor Ralph Northam who went through a scandal. Do you think cuomo is taking lessons from that or even trump himself as he tries to hang on here . I think thats what the Kruchlt Omo aides say that hes trying to inspire a confidence in the public. Northam had a support of a black community there that decided to rally around him for political purposes. You dont have people who need Governor Cuomo in that sense right now. That circle is shrinking and getting smaller by the day. Top democrats have said he should step down. Were now seeing people who have stuck by him for months and months at this point of the investigation, say he has to go. Its coming down to the ego of one man about whether hes going to do that. The general sense ive heard is those Impeachment Proceedings have to be imminent. Otherwise you should not expect Governor Cuomo to ease those calls. Thats the general sense. Look at polls. Its clear where new York Voters stand on this right now. Its about 70 say that he should be gone. Only a quarter say he should stay, according to a Quinnipiac Poll from last week. Theres a reelection next year. He has to be removed by the legislature. Whats it mean . They all go with self interest. Self interest becomes the governing thing here. The lesson from northam is the wrong lesson. In that instance, democrats looked around and realized they actually needed northam to stay put because Choice Number two, the Lieutenant Governor, had his own scandal as did state Attorney General. They would have had to had to turn over the state to a republican if they continued to force them all out. Thats not the option here. They have a Lieutenant Governor, f former member of congress, perfectly fine. No scandal. She would be a Historymaking Woman in the governors office. Thats what democrats want. Those state democrats, legislative democrats dont want to run facing questions about are you going to impeach or not impeach . Are you standing with the governor . Whole Election Campaigns will be about that. About the only one in the democratic governor in california, gavin newsom, facing the recall. Even though registered voters in california outnumber republicans 46 to 24 . Do you think that democrats are actually lose in the state that they typically dominate in . This is certainly different than the last recall, which i covered back in the day when Arnold Schwarzenegger ended up winning. There are some its a divided republican field, certainly. And there is not a Lieutenant Governor, Bigname Democrat Run ing as an alternative. But democrats in the state of california are doing what democrats in a lot of places do, which is worrying. And also that Worry Sort of breaks through potential Complacency And Complacency and people not voting would be the real problem for governor new some. Running scared. Also huge race with major national implications. Thats it for us. Inside politics sunday. Join us every sunday 8 00 a. M. Eastern and the Weekday Show as well at noon eastern. Up next, State Of The Union with Deana Bash and jake tapper. Bill cassidy, Dick Durbin and Cori Bush are guests. And we can monitor to see that were on track. Like schwab intelligent income. Schwab introducing schwab intelligent income. 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