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California is facing some of the most dangerous wildfires in history with suffocating drought And intense heat. The flames now forcing thousAnds in the state to evacuate. If you receive an evacuation warning, please go. And if you receive an order, get out. And impeachment could become a reality as support for Andrew-cuomo'>Governor Andrew Cuomo dwindles. Tonight his lawyer fires back against Sexual Harassment allegations. We have a report thats not accurate. This was no mueller investigation. Im Pamela Brown in washington. You are in the cnn newsroom. The stakes are raised And the heat is turned up. The personal attorney for New York Andrew-cuomo'>Governor Andrew Cuomo appears on cnn to forcefully push back against allegations that her client, the governor, sexually harassed 11 women. Just days after a State Attorney generals report found evidence of that, one of his accusers has filed a criminal complaint. So in addition to his political survival being in doubt, Andrew-cuomo'>Governor Andrew Cuomo now faces the risk of criminal prosecution. Minutes ago his attorney Rita Gl Glavin attacked the credibility of the report And the investigatorsch. Because you have to look at what each of these people are saying And what each of these people are saying is not Sexual Harassment. There are facts they got wrong, important facts particularly with respect to the woman whos claiming she was sexually assaulted. She most certainly was not. Theres evidence that they collected And that they ignored And omitted putting in their report. And they also credited people that they know elied And had motives to lie. This is the problem that we are faced is that we have a report thats not accurate, that did not go through all the evidence. This was no mueller investigation. And im just telling you to say blaming the victim for the governor to deny what she has claimed is not victim blaming. What i am doing is telling everybody that that report is shoddy, it is biased. It omits evidence And it was an ambush. And they havent shared all their evidence. Heres the thing, from his perspective And i do think youre going to hear this from him, he didnt believe it was inappropriate. He has seen what these women have said And i know that he feels badly about this. And you are absolutely correct, pamela, that he is the governor of the state of New York. And i dont you know, you do have to appreciate when youre in a position of power And you have younger staffers And the way he may have treated, you know, people hes had longer relationships, hes got to act differently. Hes said that repeatedly. And hes also talked about how he does slip at times. Hes not perfect. He does slip when you say he does slip, what do you mean by that . Oh, he said it in his video statements, which stat he does make the mistake. He will say darling, he will say sweetheart. He does ask people questions about their personal lives. He didnt think that was improper. I do know And let me reference this. Senator schumer. Look at a the New York times article from 2012 he routinely is talking about staffers about their personal lives but the governor does engage in that as well but let me ask you this. Let me just finish this. I agree with you it can make people uncomfortable. Ive had a lot of conversations. Im a lawyer. I have associates who have worked with me in their 20s or 30s And theyve told me these things, this makes me uncomfortable And i think the governor has heard this loud And clear. Im going to bring in a state assembly member, a democrat. Thank you for joining us And what is your reaction to what youve just heard from governor cuomos personal attorney . Well, for one i have to say that i appreciate you And what you had to say. Well, thank you for that. I appreciate that. Just doing my job. But you are someone whos been very outspoken about this, And i want to just get what your reaction is to her claims that this report was not done fairly, that it has omissions And that basically it had a preconstrued Narrative Or Conclusion that it was trying to cater to. Yeah, so a couple of things. I was listening okay. And it was a lot. It was. And i have to say that, you know, when the attorneys had appeared together And were talking, they definitely were saying some things that i can tell you personally it was very triggering some of the things that she said just now were very triggering. You are a Sexual Assault survivor. I want to point that out, correct . Right. Thats what i want to make our viewers know when you say triggering is that what you mean from what you went through personally . Yes, it is. Because i was 13 years old when i was sexually assaulted by My Own teacher. And, you know, after My Own assault i went to class And then i went to lunch. And i still, you know, when she was talking about how the the assistant actually was joking around, eating crackers And cheese, i felt like that claim that a survivor after being violated should act a particular way otherwise they arent supposed to be believed or they are not believable is disgusting And vile. I think that is something a myth that we all have to break. I will say that this was extremely triggering for so many survivors across the nation. I got emails, letters, calls, text messages, dms And i posted And reposted some of the tweets that were sent to me because so many people felt the same way that i did. Because it was so significant. That response was something that that hurt so many of us because they were basically saying that if you were somebody who was available to able to try to survive, that that was somehow wrong, you know . But this is how our brains work. The studies have shown this is how our brains work to help us survive. Some of us go onto do the next thing. Some of us read a book, some of us sleep, some of us Eat Cheese And crackers. So i think its okay And i want people to know that its okay. I think thats an important message for anyone to hear who, of course, is a survivor of Sexual Assault as you have been. And im so sorry that all of the this has brought all that back up to the surface for you. And of course youre talking about Executive Assistant Number 1. There is some discrepancy about the date of when this alleged incident occurred. But your point is just because someone may have sent an email after, had snacks doesnt mean it happened. As you pointed out your teacher sexually assaulted you And you went And had lunch next door. When youre dealing with something like this, you have 11 women who have come forward to say that the governor made them feel at the very least uncomfortable And that his behavior was inappropriate. What do you say to his legal counsel as you just heard there who said, look, in some of these cases like kissing someone at a wedding or giving a hug or saying something is not Sexual Harassment. Basically saying that not all of these episodes laid out in the report are actually Sexual Harassment. What do you say to that . I just have to say that im going to echo Charlotte Bennett here. We know when someone is being inappropriate. We know when someone is being malicious. We know when someone is being pa patchrenizing. Theres a knowledge as a person, as a person who has interacted with many people, we know when somebody says sweetheart sometimes its a term of endearment, sometimes its condescending, sometimes its patronizing, really depends on the situation, sure. But its also important to acknowledge that theres not one instant here where, you know, this attorney has acknowledged that it might be enough or it might be that theyre all, you know, patterns of behavior And that it is a culture of bullying And abusive behavior And inappropriate behavior throughout the workplace here. I think that that this is what this report has shown And this is why its damning. And actually when it comes to the date, i actually read the report And i read the same thing you did, that the quote actually was that it was around that date. And, you know, there are things within the report of course where they had to reference it, but of course theyre going to say it. So i also thought that your point here was very important about every single step of the way it just always seemed there was a moving goal post. Dont believe the legislature saying he lied about nursing homes. The a. G. s report is comprehensive but damning, oh, theres a problem with that. And what do you say to the fact she said at this point shes unaware of any plans he has to resign . Essentially if that happens as you well know the Impeachment Proceedings will go forward, And there are enough people, Assembly Members like yourself who have spoken out And said they want him to be impeached. And then it would go to trial, presumably. Whats your reaction to that . I mean i think that we we have seen we ourselves have experienced the third floor. We have known there is bullying behavior, retaliatory behavior. And i think that, you know, this is our own knowledge of this place. And, you know, its very interesting also when you brought up, you know, that comment from june kim saying that hes very frustrated that he couldnt change this place. Well, im very frustrated as well. Ive been elected for five years. Im very frustrated we Cant Change this place. That doesnt make it so im like biased against anyone. The thing is we know this is a very toxic And terrifying environment, And i think that this is why we run. This is why we try to make a difference. We try to make that change here in albany. All right, new York State assembly member, thank you so much for speaking with us And sharing some of your personal story with us tonight. We really appreciate it. I appreciate you, pamela. Thank you. Thank you. Well, tonight the senate is moving closer to passing that trillion dollar infrastructure package. After months of furious negotiations, 18 republican senators joined Democrats Today to break the And-shutdown'>Filibuster And Shutdown debate on the bill. Senators are confident it will pass, but when is still a bit murky. The bill would allow hundreds of billions of dollars in funding for roads, bridges And railways And for rebuilding the electric grid And expAnding broadbAnd access. This is a top priority for the biden administration And would give him a much needed win. Senate Democrat Bob Casey of pennsylvania joins me now. Senator, thank you for joining us. So where are you now . And are you happy with todays progress sph. Well, its a very slow process because youve got a split in the republican party. Even though Todays Vote indicated there is bipartisan support to move forward And i think ultimately to pass this bill, republicans are split. And until they work that out, this process is going to be delayed. But i think most americans by now have some some sense of whats in this bill. And i think they support it strongly, And i hope we can get this done because we have a lot of work to do as soon as this bill is passed to work on other issues like And-community'>Home And Community based services And Child Care And prekindergarten education just to name a few. Just to be clear youre not confident right now there are enough republican votes to pas this. How much longer do you see this dragging out . Well, pamela, its my sense that there is enough republican votes to pass it, but there are a couple of republicans holding it up. Okay, so how long do you see this dragging out then . Its hard to be certain. We know one thing. We know therell be no more votes tonight, And the first vote will be tomorrow right around noontime. So between now And then were hoping that something can be worked out because i think the american people want us to make these investments in roads And bridges And broadbAnd. The issues you just mentioned. And i can see the need in my Home State of pennsylvania. Weve got more than 7,500 miles of highway that is in poor condition. Weve got more than 3,300 bridges that are in poor condition. We need these investments for our communities And to create a lot of jobs. And what do you say to progressives who are unhappy that this Infrastructure Bill Isnt bigger . Well, i think were getting to a point now once this bill is completed where democrats are then going to have to move to a second phase which is those investments i talk about, investments in children, in families And people with disabilities And seniors. And thats going to have to be done by our party. Were not going to get any help from republicans on those investments. And i think although therell be a big debate about how much to spend on a particular priority, i think were going to get that done but its going to be a lot of hard work between And among democrats. Okay, senator Bob Casey of pennsylvania, thank you for joining us. Great to be with you. And while the Coronavirus Spreads at a disturbing rate in the state of florida, governor Ron Desantis threatens to pull funding to schools who defy his mask policy. So how do the teachers feel about that . Im going to speak to the president of two unions representing floridas teachers when we come back. 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Well get there, but it is it is now individual by individual. And the u. S. Has finally reached 50 of the population fully vaccinated. But halfway there is simply not good enough especially for children too young to get the shot. Right now florida leads the nation in hospitalizations, And one Florida Doctor says childrens hospitals are completely overwhelmed. And still the states republican governor, Ron Desantis, stubbornly insists hell not Order Mask mAndates for schools. I have young kids. My wife And i are not going to do the masks with the kids. We never have. I want to see my kids smiling. I want them having fun. And joining me now with more is the president of the Broward County Florida Teachers Union And Andrew sparr, president of the florida association, the largest Teachers Union in florida. Thank you all both for coming on. And im going to start with you. Broward county public schools, the second largest district in florida And the sixth largest in the country says it wants to keep its mAndate requiring masks but will make its final decision before classes resume on august 18th. What do you want them to do . I want them to keep the mAndate. Ive heard that we have over about 7,000 parents And educators have emailed our School Board members to ask them to keep the mAndate full And keep us safe in our schools And keep our children safe. How many schools, Andrew, that your union oversees And look to at actually wants to the have the Andate'>Mask MAndate but isnt imposing it because theyre worried funding will be pulled by the governor given his threat . Were seeing today actually a lot of School Districts coming out And isaing they are going to actually have a Andate'>Mask MAndate. Theyve all said now theyre going to have a Andate'>Mask MAndate, but what theyre doing to meet the Governors Requirement is theyre giving an Opt Out to parents. You know, at the end of the day what weve been saying all along is that this governor is focused on the wrong thing. Hes trying to get us just to talk about masks but really we need to talk about the overall health of our students And And-staff'>Faculty And Staff in our schools. The governor is actually holding back billions of dollars in federal money sent down in the Stimulus Money so that schools are not able to right now do extra cleaning And sanitizing, have Air Purifiers in the classroom And make sure were keeping the learning going if there are disruptions this year because of quarantining And thats really where the problem lies. You know some schools are going to move forward with the Andate'>Mask MAndate And theyre giving parents the option to Opt Out. There are other school you mentioned that are still trying to figure out. What should they do if they dont want to their funding pulled. Do you think desantis is putting lives at risk with this decision . Will children get sick or die because he doesnt want Andate'>Mask MAndates . Well, weve already seen children are sick right here in broward county. We have a high School Student that is fighting for her life with covid. Weve had two students throughout the state of florida this past couple of weeks that have passed away from covid. So students are dying. And to have this mAndate with funds held over our head if we go forward with it just shows really, really poor leadership in our governor. We elected him to take care of our state, not to go against everything that we need to keep us safe And healthy. And he wants to see his children smile. We can see people smile through masks. Your eyes light up, you know, a glow happens. The mask is just an extra protocol to help keep us safe when were in our classrooms. Andrew, what do you think . Do you think that with this threat of pulling funding if schools impose the Andate'>Mask MAndate, that he could be putting childrens lives at risk . Yeah, i think we should first of all talk about the fact the rules the governor is talking about only apply to floridas public schools, not charter schools, not private schools, not anyone else. And what that really shows here especially with what theyre doing, theyre talking about saying that if students are quarantined or isolated because they have covid or others have covid And they were exposed, that thats considered bullying And therefore they should get a voucher to go to a Voucher School thats completely unaccountable. This is putting politics over kids. The Guvhair A Secret meeting to talk about masks in schools And our public schools And didnt have a single representative from the public school, not parents, not administrators or superintendents. Thats the kind of game hes playing And goes to show this is just plain politics the governor is playing, And you shouldnt play politics with peoples lives. Thank you so much for joining us. And as covid surges in the south, Georgias Governor insists ordering everyone to mask up isnt the solution. Several cities And School Districts in the state are doing it anyway. So how does his Lieutenant Governor see it . Jeff duncan joins us live up next. And if youre stilling holding off on getting that vaccine or know someone is, youre going to want to hear from a Coronavirus Survivor im be speaking to this hour. Quintan boen says he isnt against vaccines but like many americans he was just putting it off. Well, the hesitation nearly cost him his life. Hell join us live in a few minutes with hopes No One Else has to go through what he And his family did. Welcome to allstate. Where everything just seems to go your way. Youre in good hAnds with allstate. Click or call for a lower Auto Rate today. When you earn a degree with university of phoenix, we support you with career coaching, including resume building, interview prep, personal brAnding And more, for your entire career. 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We lost greenville tonight. And theres just not words for how us And government havent been able to get the job done. There are currently over 100 wildfires burning across the country but extreme And-drought'>Heat And Drought conditions out west have made the region particularly explosive. ThousAnds have been forced to evacuate in california. While even more are taking shelter indoors hoping to avoid the dangerous smoke now shrouding the state. According to data from the Cdc Georgia currently ranks fifth in the nation when it comes to new cases of covid19 up 215 in just the past two weeks. Still georgias republican governor Brian Kemp says he does not believe in And will not issue any statewide Andate'>Mask MAndates even for schools. Jeff duncan joins me now, georgias Lieutenant Governor And one of the few top republicans in the state whos actively promoting vaccines And masking. Lieutenant governor, thank you for joining us. You know it just as well as anyone, the numbers are bad. Tlair getting worse. Are people getting sick And possibly dying in georgia because there is no statewide Andate'>Mask MAndate . Well, certainly our numbers like many other states are significantly increasing daily. Our hospitalizations are increasing. Were keeping a very close eye. The good news is we still do have hospital capacity, And we expect that to continue. You know, im one of those individuals that think the argument for And against these Andate'>Mask MAndates is a distraction from the real solution. Vaccines are the real solution. You know, last week i made a statement that millions of americans And for that fact millions of georgians are only one question away from being answered from getting a vaccine. And im just surprised more organizations And companies arent focusing on trying to get folks vaccinated or at least get their Anded'>Questionser Anded like major League Baseball or the nfl or the nba. Look, when they care about an issue, they can certainly create a lot of attention. And so i call on folks like that to help us try And get the real solution across the Finish Line here And thats the vaccine. So then are you for Andates'>Vaccine MAndates . No. You know, at the end of the day i think it needs to be a personal decision, but i think at the end of the day also a lot of folks they have questions, whether they take a certain Prescription Theyve heard or they read something on the internet or have a preexisting condition or just some sort of negative context in the circles they run in. They just need answers. And to me thats where this focus needs to be at. You know, as a republican i believe in local control just like Brian Kemp does. And so i think although i may disagree with a Andate'>Mask MAndate i think the courts have ruled over And over again theyre right to issue a mAndate whether it be a City Or School district. And thats their right to do. So youve got the Andate'>Mask MAndate issue, the vaccine mAndate issue. You said its really a personal choice. So you do not like the idea of Andates'>Vaccine MAndates. But what about like what the nfl has done, with essentially making it so difficult, putting so much of the onus on the unvaccinated that they really have no choice essentially but to get vaccinated. Because the reality is And the numbers were seeing with the vaccines that have been around for so many months, there are so many people millions of americans who no matter what you tell them, how safe these vaccines are, theyre just not going to get vaccinated. Certainly thats the nfls right to do. Theyre a private operation And private organization. And theres hundreds of millions of dollars flowing back And forth from owners And players. And certainly thats their right. Im not going to get in the way of them conducting their business im asking is that a good model for other companies to adopt in private business . I think its up to each And every business to decide on their own. Certainly i would support a private business that makes those investments. Because at the end of Day Theyve got shareholders to make sure theyre on board, theyve got customers. Weve already traveled this path through the first few waves but now we have a tool to fight this we didnt have the first year plus, And thats the vaccine. So certainly, you know, one of the interesting things, pamela, for me that popped up last week was talking to one of my wifes friends she said everybody keeps saying to go talk to your Health Care Provider. Unless youre married to a doctor, how do you getalk to a Health Care Provider . I think we need to do a better job providing those answers. Major League Baseball a couple times a game were able to put out a public Service Announcement or the Nfl Ippreseason or corporations decided to take a portion of their Ad Buys And run psas to try to help folks keep this economy open. Because the big worry for me, pamela, is how many more starts And stops can this economy take before we see really, really longterm damage done that a Stimulus Package in your Mailbox Cant Help . I want to go back because there is the economic consideration. But in terms of Andates'>Vaccine MAndates And i know youre against the Andate'>Mask MAndates as well. But, you know, republicans, their whole, you know, Talking Point on this or principal is that the Government Shouldnt be telling people what to do, it should be a personal choice. That sounds kind of like what youre saying. But we know now from the science And what doctors are saying that people who are unvaccinated are essentially keeping this pAndemic going strong, And theyre impacting other people And causing other people to go to the hospital, causing breakthrough cases potentially with vaccinated people. So in light of that how much of a personal choice is it, really, when you look at it through the sort of scientific medical lens . So im one of those folks that dont think were ever going to find a solution trying to create political positions on this. I think we need to go dig in And find solutions. And for me, look, were never going to get 100 of people in this country or this world vaccinated. Thats a reality. If im sitting in a boardroom with a large publicly traded company, youve got to deal with reality. And the reality is not everyone is going to get vaccinated, so lets try to get as many vaccinated as we possibly can. Lets try to get as many questions answered to get folks there. If this was a priority of Sports Organizations or teams or large corporations that just to need to make sure they still have fans in the seats so they can keep their businesses alive or make sure folks are able to walk into their store, then i i vite them to be a part of this process in educating america to try And get the last 50 vaccinated because thats ultimately the solution here. Okay, georgia Lieutenant Governor jeff duncan, thank you for joining us on the show. We appreciate your time. Thanks, pamela. And a Reminder Tonight when it comes to getting the vaccine, hesitation can be harmful. A Covid Survivor who got the virus after putting off getting the shot is here to share his mistakes in the hopes No One Else repeats it. That new Dove Breakage Remedy gives damaged hair the strength it needs. Even with repeated combing hair treated with dove shows 97 less breakage. Strong hair with new Dove Breakage Remedy. Lactaid is 100 real milk, just without the lactose. 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Well, id say im about probably 75 or 80 . Im at the point now i try to do more than i can. Just to be clear tell us how long you have been dealing with covid. Fever started on may 16th. I actually got over covid. I was still fighting the viral pneumonia, of course, on like the 25th. But then the 27th is when i experienced the Blood Clotting And the Pulmonary Embolism. And just to correct, i didnt put off getting a vaccination. I actually had scheduled it two times And work prompted me to cancel the appointment And not get it. You know, i didnt think i wasnt going to get sick, but yeah. Thanks for correcting that. That was our misunderstAnding. Our understAnding was that you basically like so many other people had said, you know, ill get around to it. But youre saying you had signed up to get the vaccine And twice you couldnt because of work. Youre a farmer. It was a busy season for you, right . That is correct. I didnt think i fit the profile of a covid deck. I was healthy And i figured id been exposed to it before And never got it, so i thought i had time. So you had been okay. Just to be clear this was in may when you first contracted it. Here we are in august, And youre still dealing with covid. That is correct. How do you feel about how it all played out with the vaccine, your Vaccine Appointments being canceled And then getting covid And now dealing with it for so many months . Well, its like i had a friend call me the other day And ask me what i thought about because he thought he had maybe covid in the fall And thought he couldnt get it again. And i told him, i said that morning i was leaving the house headed to the hospital i knew i wasnt Coming Home that day. And i didnt know if id come home ever. And i told him i said telling my Kids Goodbye And that i loved them, you dont want to do that. You do not want to be in that situation. Thats one of the worst things i ever had to do. And what wez going through your mind as you were saying that to your family . Just that, you know, what a whirlwind this is. I mean, i woke up that morning. My oxygen was severely low. Id been gasping for air at a point in time during the middle of the night. And the nurse told me to get to the emergency room. So at that point i didnt know i had a Pulmonary Embolism but i knew things werent good And things could get out of hAnd. And what would you say to people at home who still arent vaccinated . Well, kind of like what i said about what i told my friend. You know, telling your Loved Ones goodbye, that youve got to go to the hospital And just in that situation i mean its in your hAnds entirely. Take the vaccine or to not take the vaccine. But once you walk through the hospital door, its all out of your hAnds. And its in gods hAnds, And i guess theres no need to tempt him or to trial him. All right, you dont want to get to that point when you can do something like take a vaccine And prevent that from happening. Thank you for joining the show. Im glad youre doing better And i hope youll be back to yourself how you were precovid in no time. All righty, thank you, maam. Thank you. Well, remember when it felt like Fauz News was finally being responsible with its Vaccine Coverage . That did not last long. If your employer tries to force you to get medicine you dont need And threatens to fire you if you dont or resist, threaten to sue, make a lot of noise. Dont go along with it. Youre an american And you dont have to. Is the mixed messaging on vaccines harming the viewers theyre supposed to inform . Brian stelter is here to share his take up next. The stinging. My skin was no longer mine. My psoriatic arthritis, made my joints stiff, swollen. Painful. Emerge tremfyant™. With tremfya®, adults with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. 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Your doctor, thats who usually people go to for medical advice. I didnt go to a doctor before i got the shot. Thats your decision but i dont think anchors should be recommending medical advice. Yeah, i agree. Well, you know, but a lot of people have been tuning into the show for 25 years to see what we think about different things. I think, if you have the studestu opportunity, get the shot. So fox hosts on one program say get the shot. While Tucker Carlson rails against the vaccine, calling It Medicine you dont need. Which is interesting, because as you well know, cnn chief media correspondent, brian stelter, tucker has, also, said we we shouldnt be in the business of telling people to get a shot. But yet, hes very comfortable, clearly, um, raising doubts about the vaccine. And saying And And basically, undermining the vaccine, right . Yes, And unfortunately, that continues to be the dominant narrative of rightwing media. When we talk about vaccine acceptance, people deciding, finally, to get shots. This is about persontoperson, Oneonone Communication because the media sources that vaccinehesitant people are watching And listening to are continuing to do damage. Are continuing to sow doubt. Every once in a while, you will see a headline about some rightwing star, whos been converted. Who is telling the truth about the vaccines, who is urging his fans to get vaccinated. But unfortunately, the the reality is more, every day, the main narrative is about being hesitant, about being resistant, about being skeptical for nogood reason. Right now, one of the most popular narratives, pamela, is about the border. Saying, well, there is all these migrants crossing the border And they might have covid And that is really a Distraction Technique to say, look at those sick people who could be sick And infected. Its a typical, kind of, trope that goes back decades that has racist tendencies And histories. And we are hearing a lot of that from rightwing media. So, in other words, they are worried about the border but theyre not worried about their fellow neighbors getting the shot, pamela. And now, Tucker Carlson is lavishing praise on that Countrys President , viktor orban, claiming that hungary is freer than the u. S. Whats going on here . This is an example of Tucker Carlson resisting american democracy, promoting an alternative, And he was giving a Speech Today in budapest basically talking down america. Watch. There is a lot i dont know about hungary but i know a robustpolitical system, when i see one. I think americas the greatest country in the world. I will always think that but dont Tell Me its freer than hungary because thats a lie. Hungary is ruled by an autocrat who has been consolidating control, censoring the media, clamping down on the free press. So, what trucker is doing there in budapest, he wouldnt be able to do if he was a hungarian broadcaster speaking out against hungarys leader. He is able to do that, because he is an american broadcaster, who is free to roam around the world looking for alternatives but this reminds me, pamela, of what we are hearing about the olympics. Some rightwing broadcasters criticizing the u. S. , talking down americas athletes. Its as if they are so frustrated by america, they are looking for alternatives And thats why guys like Tucker Carlson seem to be doing. Brian stelterings thank you so much. Be sure to join brian for reliable Sources Tomorrow Morning at 11 00 a. M. Eastern. And coming up. My attorney my interview, rather, with the attorney for embattled New York governor, Andrew cuomo. Well be right back. To gelato made from scratch. Raise the jar to all five layers. Raise the jar to the best gelato. Youve ever tasted. Talenti. Raise the jar. 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