Changing with the delta variant. In some states, mostly the south, icus are overrun, medical staff pushed to the brink. But the governors in florida and texas wont let businesses, towns or School Boards address the crisis the way some of them want, even though florida is now seeing record hospitalizations. This morning, more covid patients are in the hospital in florida than any other state in the nation. Phil murphy the governor of New Jersey were Speaking Act and other elected officials are losing their patience with the unvaccinated. These folks back there have lost their mind youve lost your minds. You are the ultimate Knuckle Heads and because of what you are saying and standing for, people are losing their life. People are losing their life. Those of you who refuse to get vaccinated at this point are willfully and unnecessarily putting yourself and others at risk of hospitalization and death. You are the ones threatening the freedoms of all the rest of us. Please, just get the damn vaccine. There are people that still think this is something we made up. I lost my temper at a Council Meeting recently and referenced them as unvaccinated assholes, unfortunately thats accurate sometimes. That was the republican mayor of West Lafayette in indiana. He has since apologized for his bad language, but he says he fears he may have to shut his city down again. There are signs that the public Vaccination Campaign is working. The White House says daily new vaccinations over the past 24 hours are at their highest level in over a month. Talks are under way in the biden administration to accelerate the pace of vaccinations. One possibility is with holding federal funds from places like Nursing Homes until Vaccination Requirements are met. We have reporters covering this and all of the major developments in states around the country. Im Jeremy Diamond at the White House where the biden administration is having preliminary discussions about ways it can use the federal governments powers to leverage more vaccinations in the United States. Now, these discussions while preliminary they do include, were told, initial discussions about ways to with hold federal funds from Nursing Homes and other institutions unless they require vaccinations among their staff. Now, these steps would mark a significant step towards a much more muscular federal Vaccination Campaign, but a white House Official stressing there are no imminent Policy Decisions at this time. Reporter im Leyla Santiago in in miami, florida, now leading the nation when it comes to covid19 hospitalization. The Florida Hospital Association Warning that 60 of hospitals will face critical staff shortages in the next seven days. Were seeing additional measures being taken by places like jackson health system, now announcing that it will have a Vaccine Mandate for all of its Healthcare Workers and Miami Dade County also announcing that it will require testing of all county employees. Im Miguel Marquez in birmingham, alabama, where a lot of the numbers here are not pointing in the right direction. Infections are up, hospitalizations are up, the delta variant, highly infectious, highly contagious taking hold here in the cotton state, but there is a glimmer of hope. Some vaccinations are up. People are getting vaccinated slightly higher level in Alabama Today than they were say a month ago. In part its because things are opening back up again. As masks go away, as social distancing goes away and the wider economy opens up and schools get going, parents, young people, others, theres a hard group hard Core Group that will not ever get vaccinated here, but there are a lot of people who are now making decision to get the shot. Reporter im Nadia Ramiro in Baton Rouge, louisiana, the numbers for covid19 here keep getting worse and worse yet another recordbreaking day for hospitalizations the state going in the wrong direction. Cases are up as well. But when i talk to people about why theyre not getting vaccinated, here we are on the North Side of the Baton Rouge and they tell us its access to care is a big barrier. Can take them 30 minutes to an hour to get to the closest hospital. You know, it should have been one of the most joyful experiences of her life, but for one Texas Mom giving birth to her newborn son in the same Hospital System where her husband had died of covid19 just two months before brought back feelings of Loss And Heart break. Seeing the same uniforms, hearing the Beeping Machines the drip of the iv. Joining me is maria garza. Her husband jason died in may when she was seven months pregnant. Maria, i want to thank you so much for joining us. Were at a Critical Point right now in this pandemic. And i think when people hear your story, they can really grasp just how much this pandemic has taken from people. And has taken from you. Can you start by telling us about jason and just how Blind Sided you were and unexpected it was to lose him . Absolutely. Jason was the happiest person ever. It was his mission to make people laugh and to have a good time and if anybody was having a bad day, he would try his hardest to turn it around for them. When he got sick, we were expecting it to be like how i had it. I had a very mild case a year ago, but his was so different from the very beginning. And like you said, we were Blind Sided. About a week after he tested positive, i had to take him to the hospital because he couldnt take two steps from the restroom to the room without being so out of breath. It was unbelievable how quickly he deteriorated and just unbelievable. Yeah. You say he had no comorbidities, so thats why you expected this to be mild. He ended up intubated in the icu. He spent months on a ventilator. What was that like for you as you were hoping that, you know, he was going to make a comeback at some point . Thats right. It was stressful to say the least. Like you say, i was pregnant at the time as well. So, taking it Day By day, trying not to think too far into the future about treatments or when he was going to make it out of it, but it was Heart Breaking seeing him on a ventilator and his condition was changing Day By day, so, it was the hardest thing i have ever had to go through. You recently a few weeks ago you gave birth, you and jason have a toddler, 3yearold isabella, but you gave birth to j. T. , who is named after your husband, 3 weeks old, which is amazing. Its amazing that you have this beautiful gift. But i know its a double Edge Sword as you are going through this and missing jason. What was that like when you were in the same Hospital System where you had spent so much time where you lost your husband . Yeah. It was difficult. I tried to focus on the reason that i was there, which was to welcome my son. But i couldnt ignore the similarities between theyre all wearing the same uniforms, the gowns are all the same, so even though though i tried to stay positive and tried to enjoy the moment of bringing my son into the world it was bittersweet because it brought back so many memories of jason in the icu. I know that you in his final moments he was listening to music, right . He was a musician. He was very into music. Can you tell us about that . Sure. Since he was 15 or younger than 15 years old he played guitar, he played bass, he played drums. It was his escape. He started so many different bands. Thats how i met him was through my brother. My brother and him started a band together. And i would visit him in the icu and i would play music for him, rush and Black Sabbath were his favorites. And his brother helped me as well. He came down from kentucky. If i couldnt visit him in the hospital, then his brother would be there Playing Music, Playing Videos Of Isabella playing so he could have some familiar sounds, even though he was in a comma on a ventilator, i think that us Playing Music for him sort of, i hope, settled him down a little bit if he could hear us. I know its been hard, maria, that he missed the vaccine so narrowly, right . You were vaccinated while you were pregnant. Uhhuh. There are a lot of people who are not getting the vaccine. What do you say to them . I say that if you are hesitant, please speak with your doctor. Do your research. We have to protect not only ourselves but kids that cant get vaccinated and our communities. The vaccine is the way to do that. I would still have my husband and my kids would still have their father if we had been able to get the vaccine before he got sick. It is so, so important to get the vaccine now more than ever with the variants. I understand peoples hesitance, but at the same time its just so important to get the vaccine. I would hate for somebody elses family to go through what we went through. I dont wish it on anybody. And its more scary not having the vaccine than getting it in my opinion. Maria, thank you for coming on this morning. Im so sorry that your husband was taken from you and from your children. I hope they are a continued blessing to you of something that you guys created together. Maria, thank you so much. Thank you. You know, i just have to say, her is a profound, direct example but theres a generation for whom covid and the reality we have all lived through, the impact will never go away. There is a generation for whom this will have a constant, continued, eternal effect on it obviously. Maria, thats really as direct and as bad as it gets what happened to her and her family, but this will be with us in different ways emotionally and otherwise forever. Yeah. I think of maria, her kids, jasons family, her family and just this kind of Ripple Effect of the Pain And Loss of losing one person and think over 600,000 people who are lost, i guess what i dont understand is some of the polls, bermen, they show that some people are worried more about the vaccine than getting covid. You know, there are 600 plus thousand people who have stories like marias. Its not were not interviewing people who have those stories because of the vaccine because theyre not there. That is not the issue. Just look at these people. Its Heart Breaking. Its a shame. It is a shame. Coming up a former adviser to President Trump talks about just how close he came to an attempted coup. Plus, the bizarre argument from Senator Ted Cruz about Vaccine Requirements and the mypillow guy, Mike Lindell pushing what could be his most bizarre Election Conspiracy yet. Isnt that very dangerous . But yes. But im not wrong. Ive checked it out. Ive spent millions. 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And this is a serious issue, so naturally Senator Ted Cruz politicized it and laid the hyperbole on thick. We should have no covid mandates. What does that mean, no mask mandates, no Vaccine Mandates that means no vaccine passports. We shouldnt step into a regime where the government says show us your papers if you want to do the basic activities of life. So cruz argues you shouldnt have to show papers, which i imagine would include a license, a permit, a proof of id for the, quote, basic activities of life. Except, here is a list, you need papers to drive, to fish, to hunt, to buy booze, to buy cigarettes. You need papers to purchase a home, to file taxes if you want to rent a car, an Apartment F you want to take home a library book, you need papers for car insurance, for car registration. To dance at a nightclub to open a bank account, to get a job, to literally walk into the building of said job, to go to the doctor, to book a hotel room. You need papers to get your kids into school, to get married to do Bench Presses a the gym, see an rrated movie to get a credit card. This is nothing new or extraordinary or unprecedented. A Brief List of the current vaccines required to go to some schools, measles, bumps, chickenpox, polio. We also should point out berman that cruz is staunchly antipapers except for when hes not. 29 states require voter id. Its a very reasonable Common Sense provision. Let me go back to what they really dont want is voter id, signature identification, but you need an id to buy a six pack for crying out loud or get into the capitol or get in the White House. Yep, yep. General, the Photo Id laws help protect the integrity of elections. Absolutely. Solicitor general of texas, i led a coalition of states defending indianas Photo Id law before the United States supreme court. Papers. So it is worth noting things are not good in texas with coronavirus. Nearly 8,500 people right now in the hospital, thats the highest number since february. The second highest in the u. S. Behind florida. The state is averaging 12,000 new cases a day. The highest since february before the vaccine was, of course, widely available. Houstons Texas Medical Center just admitted 300 covid patients in a single day and top official in that county says theyre heading toward a public health catastrophe, yet, Senator Cruz also says this ive taken the vaccine. I believe in vaccines. Im encouraging people to voluntarily take it. But if somebody doesnt take the vaccine, they pose relatively little threat to me, they pose relatively little threat to someone who has chose on the take the vaccine. So cruz is cool if he is safe. Good for him. But what about the economy . Young kids . Schools . The immunocompromised . And the words of marie antoinette, let them eat covid . One more thing on documents, you need papers to fly anywhere. Domestically or internationally. 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First, want to go to Hadas Gold who joins us On Route From Jerusalem to the israel lebanon border. A lot going on where you are hadas. Reporter John A Lot going on. 19 rockets, according to the israeli military, were fired from lebanon into israel just a few hours ago. Ten were intercepted by the iron dome system. Right now we have no reports of casualty and the israeli military saying theyre responding by firing toward where the rockets came from, but this is a very serious escalation because hezbollah, the iranbacked militant group that essentially controls Southern Lebanon have taken responsibility. They have not taken responsibility for attacks into israel in at least two years and they have not taken responsibility for Rocket Attacks since at least 2006. Now, the israeli military spokesperson saying that they do not want this to escalate into a fullscale war but theyre prepared to do so. Also important to note the israel military does not think this attack was necessarily directed by iran. However, of course, iran backs hezbollah. This comes just one day after the Israeli Minister of defense was asked directly is israel ready to militarily strike iran. He gave a oneword answer, he said yes. When he was pressed further whether that would be imminent. He hedged a little bit, its clear after recent event especially on the ship that killed a Crew Member that iran not just a israeli problem. They need to work strategically and diplomatically to thwart off any sort of threat from iran. But this is all coming at a very sensitive time while rhetoric about israel being able to attack iran is not necessarily new, former prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu would make such threats in the past, but this is such a sensitive time. We have rockets this morning. We have a relatively new government in israel as well all of this a very sensitive moment while the iran nuclear talks are potentially on hold. Very sensitive, very volatile and will continue to watch it. John . Hadas gold, thank you very much. Lets head to iran where a spokesman Foreign Ministry responded to iran. Fred pleitgen is joining us. Reporter the iranians angry at some of the things the israelis have been saying and throwing threats right back at the israelis. In fact, one of the things that happened a day ago is that the head of irans very powerful revolutionary Guard Corp. , The General went down to that area to the Persian Gulf where some of the incidents had been taking place and he said that iran was ready for anything if the israelis chose to attack. He said the iranian forces down there, which are massive, they have navy forces, surface to Air Missile forces he said all are fully combat ready and also said that if the israelis tried any moves the iranian response would be militarily and would not be a diplomatic response. Now you mentioned the spokesman for irans Foreign Ministry heard those words that Benny Gantz said. He said in another brazen violation of international law, israeli regime now blatantly threatens iran with military action. He then later goes on to tweet, we state this clearly, any foolish act against iran will be met with a decisive response. Dont test us. So obviously the iranians making very clear they would be ready for anything. They obviously say they have a lot of power not just down there in the Persian Gulf but in the entire middle east. 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Now, all of these details and documents theyre being turned over to the January 6th select committee with key interviews that are expected in the coming days including from the acting Attorney General at the time and his deputy, both of whom were forced to repeatedly push back on these false claims of Election Fraud. New details paint a clearer picture of president Donald Trumps attempt to stage a coup in the final days of his presidency. Shortly after the 2020 election, trump is said to have pressured top officials a the Justice Department to support his baseless allegations of Election Fraud in the president ial election. On december 27th, trump spoke to acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen and acting deputy Attorney General Richard Donohue and reportedly said just say the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the r. Congress men. This is the Justice Department. And in america, the president is king. Thats the first thing. He has an obligation to the law of the United States. Reporter in a letter from the very next day obtained by abc news, an acting Doj Department Head falsely wrote the Justice Department had identified significant concerns that may have impacted the outcome of the election in multiple states including the state of georgia. Jeffrey clark was pushing for the Justice Department to step in and wanted to urge the governor of georgia to call a Special Session to consider this important and urgent matter. But his Bosses Rosen and donahue refused to sign on, denying any evidence of fraud. And just five days later on january 2nd, trump held the infamous Phone Call with Georgias Election officials. So, look, all i want to do is this, i just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have because we won the state. Reporter on january 3rd, Rosen Met with trump for hours at the White House. Rosens chief of Staff Patrick testified last month that he drafted a Resignation Letter that day, fearing trump would oust rosen and replace him with clark. Around the same time, concerns were reportedly mounting among top military officials that trump would attempt a coup. The book i alone can fix it by two Washington Post reporters recounts the joint Chief Chairman Mark milley and other top military officials had also planned to resign in the Event Trump ordered them to do something illegal, dangerous or ill advised. On January 6th, trump urged Mike Pence to overturn the Election Results something that was not within his power to do. Then trump urged a crowd of his supporters to march to the capitol. We fight like hell. And if you dont fight like hell, youre not going to have a country anymore. Were going to walk down and ill be there with you. Were going to walk down and were going to walk down to the capitol. And the picture that is emerging is just how perilously close this country came to crisis and how several top officials worked steadfastly behind the scenes to fight back and brianna, we are likely to see even more of these damning details come out thats because the Justice Department here has given the green light to former top officials to talk. They will be talking to the House Committee, the select committee, the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee Dick Durbin said he wants to talk to jeffrey clark. The Big Question remains how much information will we get from the White House . Will the Biden Team assert the Executive Privilege for the trump teams communications . It all remains to be seen but a lot more is likely to come out here, brianna. You painted a complete picture with that, jess. Thank you so much for that. Lets bring in two Election Experts who foresaw this back in 2019 when they wrote a column for usa today. Dont rule it out. Jerry Gold Fetter with us a veteran Election Lawyer who also teaches Election Law at Fordham Law School and Lincoln Mitchell who teaches in the political Science Department at Columbia University he also worked for years as a political consultant advising and managing domestic, political campaigns. And to you first, jerry, this headline written in 2019, how do you reflect on that now considering the response you got at the time . Well, unfortunately we were right. We knew who we were dealing with an authoritarian personality in trump. And we knew that there were very multiple vulnerabilities in our electoral system. Listen, None Other than michael cohen, trumps former lawyer and fixer, testified to congress in 2019 that if trump were defeated that there would not be a peaceful transition. Weve had 59 president ial elections in this country. Ten incumbents have been defeated. They were not reelected. They were not happy about the whole thing, but they graciously or not so graciously turned over the keys to the White House and left. We always had a feeling that trump would not do that. So we put it out there, as did michael cohen. Lincoln, what do you worry about now moving forward . I worry that not much has changed. In 2018, 2019 jerry and i would ask people if Donald Trump loses, can you imagine him conceding gracefully . Can you imagine saying, this was a Hardfought Campaign and now i couldnt imagine that happening. And the same thing in 2024, can you imagine Donald Trump who if he runs will be the republican nominee or any other trumplike republican who would be the nominee if he doesnt run, losing to Joe Biden, kamala harris, or someone else and not doing exactly what trump has done . The seeds within the constituentsy of the republican party that a defeat of a republican is due to Election Fraud, those seeds have grown more, not less since 2019. So i dont think much has changed. I would agree with Everything Jerry said except i wouldnt put so much of in the past tense. This time we have no excuse for not recognizing it in advance. You guys predicted the big lie. You didnt call it that jerry . Yeah. And its not just about trump anymore. We worry about legal issues as well as nonlegal issues. The legal issues is there are many republican states, republicancontrolled states, that are changing the laws so that Election Administrators are being replaced by partisans. So, if in the president ial election or even in the congressional elections, if partisan legislatures dont like the results, they will have the authority to say im sorry, there was fraud. You guys didnt win. We won. And thats legal because its being those laws are being passed by the various legislatures. Now, theyre being challenged, those laws. But im not so saying that those laws wont hold up. And then theres also the nonlegal aspect. We saw that on January 6th. We saw how the insurrectionists invaded the capitol to try to stop Mike Pence from confirming the Electoral College results. Well, who is to say that when Electoral College votes are being counted in the 50 capitols in 2024 after the 2024 election that we wont have invaders in those various capitols in Battleground States trying to stop the Electoral College votes from being counted . And then the legislatures in those republican states can just say, well, the Electoral College votes have not been counted. We are declaring that trump or whoever the republican candidate is won. Now, i dont want to be Professor Doom here, but we need to be cognizant. We need to be aware. We need to be alert as a citizenry that these legal and perhaps extralegal violent actions might very well occur. Look, youre not the only one Predicting Doom here. Lincoln, we had on an Election Expert who says this is, he is a quote, scared shitless about republicans changing votes. What held last time not holding this time. What do you think, lincoln . I might use that precise language thats one of the best Election Lawyers in the country. Lincoln . I might not use that i might not use that precise lange wording. I would agree with that sentiment. It is very important for all of us who believe in democracy to recognize the depths of this crisis. And we keep hearing this, even one of your earlier guests were approaching how close we were to a crisis. Were in the midst of a crisis. It is a few had those insurrections turned right instead of left at one point, literally instead of left as they stormed the capitol and ran up the stairs and the brave Police Officer or guard helped get them out of the way, we could have had a very different outcome here. Now imagine that happening, jerry talked about in republicancontrolled State Legislatures. Imagine what happens if kevin mccarthy, not Nancy Pelosi is speaker of the house and this goes to jerrys point that this is not just Donald Trump. It is the official position and i dont say that with an exaggeration, its the official position of the republican Party One that the election was somehow fraudulent. Liz cheneys of the world but very few prominent republicans will come on your station or any other station and say, look, Joe Biden is the real president for goodness sake. Its also the official position of the republican party that January 6th wasnt a big deal. Just think about that for a moment. So as we end, we have these Voter Suppression laws and the laws that make it possible for the State Legislatures to not just play with the Electoral College votes but to simply decide we dont like this election outcome, were going to change and give those votes the republican in the Electoral College. Were in this crisis very, very deeply. And what almost made trumps coup possible was the insistence by so much of the punditry it cant happen herism, Apple Pie this is america. Which is a dramatic misreading of american history. American democracy its a bit of a what we saw on January 6th was a Wakeup Call to that. Gentlemen, thank you so much for this discussion this morning. Really appreciate it. Lincoln and jerry. Thanks. Thank you. So a Draft Letter reportedly circulated late last year by a Trump Loyalist at the Justice Department shows the length that his allies and people in the government were willing to go to overturn the president ial election. Jeffrey clark with the acting assistant Attorney General running the civil Rights Division at the time and he wrote in a letter to Georgia Officials a draft without any actual evidence, in fact, contrary to the evidence, he wrote that the Justice Department had identified significant concerns that may have impacted the outcome of the election in multiple states including the state of georgia. And he was suggesting that Draft Letter that the Georgia State Legislature throw out the electors and seat a new batch of trump electors. Joining me now is the former national Security Adviser to then President Trump, john bolton, the author of the book the room where it happened ambassador, i should note you were long gone, long gone before december and january of last year. You were in no way connected to this with the professor just said we would be hard pressed to find a republican that would say Joe Biden is the fairly elected president. I think you would agree Joe Biden is the fairly elected president. Of course he is. So this letter from jeffrey clark, what jumps out to me about this is he wrote it down. Were talking about the assistant Attorney General in the department of justice. This is a high Level Official directly engaged in overturning the Election Results. What are the dangers there . Could we just stop a second . Sure. Im not a shrink, but a lot of people seem to want to be shrinks and analyzing what happened in the 2020 election. So, ill take my chance at it. Theres a level of hysteria from your prior guests in this discussion that i think is very unhelpful in understanding what the nature of the problem we face is. And we do face a problem. I would characterize this way, its Donald Trump who is a real aberration in american politics. So, before we draw sweeping conclusions from insufficient information, lets all take a deep breath. Now, let me try to respond to your question which is a fair question. And to say in the reagan administration, i was an assistant Attorney General in charge of the civil division. I know that job very well. Its probably the happiest job i ever had in the government. And i appreciate what you say about it being such a highlevel job. I could no more helped conduct a coup against the president of the United States than the chair youre sitting in. I dont know this fella jeff clark. Hes clearly got problems of some kind. But i think the chance of the assistant Attorney General of the civil division leading a coup are somewhere close to zero. So, did anything that Donald Trump have to say about the roll of the Justice Department in trying to confuse people or contradict the 2020 election have any merit at all . Absolutely not. It was reprehensible from Incomprehensible Behavior Trump was engaged in. He didnt have a coup plot. He couldnt think that comprehensively to come up with a coup plot. The idea of the Justice Department doing something was proposed to him by rudy giuliani, the pillow guy. Who knows. The odds of it actually happening were between slim and none , the fact of the matter is he did it. And it wasnt just Donald Trump. It was jeffrey clark. You had officials in the government. It was the white House Chief of staff who is a very powerful person. And, yes, the guardrails held, but it was also the matter of the riot, the i think recollection at the capitol, correct . I mean, what was the impact of what happened . And that should be investigated, foo. That should be investigated, too. But you have to ask the question to prevent it next time, whats the most important thing . And from the voters perspective, its look at the character of the people who are running for office. Ultimately, if the people dont reject people like trump, constitutional barriers will be paper thin. Thats the real test. I think Liz Cheney who you spoke about before, and shes speaking of her father here, ill play the sound for you, i think shes worried that the republican party itself might not stand as the guardrail here going forward. Or at least not right now. Listen to this. My dad is deeply troubled about where our party is, deeply troubled about where the country is. And just a tremendous source of Advice And Guidance and wisdom for me. Deeply troubled where the party is. Ambassador, how about you . Sure, im troubled about where im deeply troubled about where parts of the party are. And i think there is a struggle within the party for its future direction. But i am very confident about the outcome. I think this is a small portion that followed trump for reasons that i dont fully understand, but i think the effort now is to isnt It A Majority in the House Caucus . Wouldnt you say its a majority in the House Caucus right now . I think a lot of people are intimidated by trump. I think there is a media bubble. But what my polls are showing, though, is out in the country when you ask real people who have issues to confront them, and not interested in going down the Rabbit Hole of the 2020 election again and again, they are looking for other people who are raising other policy issues to deal with the problems they see. And thats the direction i think that ultimately will cure trump. Thats what the polling shows. People look forward. Donald trump may want to talk about the 2020 election, and he probably will till the day he dies. But the number of people who are interested in talking to him about that diminishes every day. Ambassador john bolton, thanks so much for coming on this morning. Appreciate you being part of this. Glad to be on with you. So, will top officials pressured by trump to overturn the election be called to testify in congress . And hes made a name for himself by selling pillows and pushing the big lie. 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