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You want to truth . Heres the truth. Weve got a long way to go with this pandemic. Its not going to be over soon. Our fall is going to be screwed up, and there is fault in that. We made ourselves sick. It is our denial, it is our division. Wear a mask. No. Cases and deaths skyrocket. Take the vaccine. Waves of people do. The virus abates. But then rebounds. Why . Because there was a population that refused to get it. Variants came as predicted. Cases go again, up, up, up, forcing what . What theyre telling us now. Now its a different form of the virus. Things changed. Its how science work, right . Facts, analysis, knowledge. Now youve got to maskup. So, the same people who refused the vaccine and refused the mask before it are now refusing to mask again. Now, heres where im about to qualify my statement because i know i know what youre doing right now. I know youre rolling your heads, what are you talking at me for . I know. There is a new we. They are the vaccinated. And this pandemic has become about the vaccinated and the vacuous. And now more specifically, heres where we are. How much more are the vaccinated going to take from the vacuous and their enablers . I know that you within that group, the vaccinated, are a majority. And unlike what weve been dealing with, the rest of the time in our political poisoned environment, your different races, places, right, left, but overall reasonable, reasonable enough to respect the guidance, respect the science. Reasonable enough to see bravery in protecting your families and others. And yet 60,000 plus cases a day when so many of you have been doing what you are asked to do, even though its not easy. A Variant Strain so contagious the cdc says even the vaccinated can spread it. Why . Because the virus changed, not the science. The science reflects the facts. This variant is different than the one we had because it has been allowed to replicate at a rate and in a way that it has gotten more resistant to being killed off. The vaccinated didnt cause this. And they may have to mask up, but they will have to live with the pandemic and all the problems for Work And Family largely because of the shortcomings you had nothing to do with. Now, those causing the problems say they are confused by the guidance. Really . The guidance is and was simple. Listen to dr. Fauci from here just last night. Were not changing the science. You know what changed, chris . The virus changed. And the science evolved with the changing virus. I know people in the media are talking down to you if you didnt get vaccinated. Thats not me. But i dont believe that youre confused. I believe youre being baited by your enablers to see it as confusing as a way of rationalizing your resistance. But you know you got it. Get the vaccine and you wont need the masks, and well stop the virus. Remember . That was trumps promise. That was the promise of Operation Warp speed. Yeah, he overhyped it, but the vaccine came. It was his vaccine, and then you didnt take it. And when people did take it, what happened . The need for the masks went away. But then those who refused to get the vaccine allowed the virus to spread and change, so now we need masks again. So, get vaccinated. Why . If you get vaccinated, we can slow this thing down because it Cant Replicate the same way. We can contain it. Thats it. Is that confusing . But the strong and wrong enabling you would rather state that its confusing. It doesnt make sense. Kevin mccarthy declaring the Cdc Decision Wasnt based on science but conjured up by liberal Government Officials who want to continue to live in a perpetual pandemic state. Why . Why would they want that . Its bad for biden. Conjured . Take a look at the map, my brothers and sisters. Does this look conjured . Hospitalizations up all over. Younger people now getting sick. That familiar refrain, well, its really just the old people. Not anymore thanks to you. Do you know why that is . Unvaccinated people and the people enabling the renaissance or outright resistance as it was some misplaced cause. Its freedom. Ill take to one of you tonight. Weve got him on the show. Its freedom not to take the vaccine. Youve got the right. But we learn every day how not right that decision is. Its not a confusion. Its contamination of toxic thought and now in this era of animus, the kind of talk of mccarthy gets a new response. And here it is. Leader mccarthy, against the science . Does that help . No should be the answer. But then you see Chip Roy of texas, member of congress, file a motion to adjourn congress over the mandate. Listen to this. We have a crisis at our border and were Playing Footsie With Mask Mandates in the peoples house. We have people coming with covid across the southern border and you all put masks masks up front here . Which is it . Vaccines or masks . Do the vaccines work or they dont work . Do the masks work or they dont work . This institution is a sham, and we should adjourn and shut this place down. Oh, god give us strength. I mean, could it be any more perfect, i guess, in its perversity that marjorie taylor greene, the Qanon Cook is the one who stands up. Weve got Chip Roy on the show. He cant believe what just came out of his face. Did the Vaccine Work or not . The Vaccine Works, but not as well when you allow the virus time to grow and change, when you did by not pushing people to get vaccinated. And just the ill logic of it. So, Chip Roy was one of those guys who said, look, man, dont shut us down. If you shut us down, its going to hurt peoples lives. Its going to hurt our economy. And that was always true. Nobody wanted to shut down, but now he is insisting with his refusal to make it more likely well have to do that again. What ill logic . Thats confusing. Whats confusing is choosing to see unvaccinated people as a problem but only if they enter the country illegally. You saw them throw it in there because hes from texas. Why . Because its a boogie man. It is not true that migrants who cross the border from mexico are not tested. They are. Oh, i heard theres been a surge of cases in the detention centers. There has. Two reasons. One, our Immigration System sucks. And nobody wants to fix it. The laws arent right. The resources arent right. The remedies in term of how we deal with countries of origin is not right. Nobodys fixing it. They just want to complain about it. We were never a wall away. But theres another reason that cases are popping in the detention centers. Do you know what it is . Because theyre popping everywhere all over the country. So, dont look for a scapegoat. Look at yourselves if youre the unvaccinated. And yet there is hope. The vaccinated and their allies are closing ranks. Big companies, google, facebook, netflix, the washington post, lyft, theyre requiring employees to be vaccinated in order to return to the office. Do i like that people are being forced . Its irrelevant. Im not making policies do. I think they have the legal ability . Yes. Do i think it needed to come to this . No. I dont think people should be forced to do whats smart. Do we have precedent . Yeah, although this vaccine is different. Biden administration not having this fda approved i told you it was a problem. I said it was going to become more of a problem. And now it is going to be more of a problem because youre going to have people forced to take a vaccine thats not fda approved. You better make the case. But the best case for hope is that maybe this scare, maybe this variant, maybe seeing that we really can go backwards is sinking in because despite all the enablers saying, this is confusing, remember youre free not to take it, more are joining the ranks of the vaccinated than weve seen in a while. The White House says almost half of almost half a million, so right around 400 and something thousand americans got their first shot today. Its the highest daily pace in almost a month. Good for them. If your doctor says its okay and you can handle it healthwise, good for you. Now we just need these trump enablers to stop trying to make america sick again. For more on the way out, lets bring in a better mind, david lean heart, senior writer at the new york times. Good to see you, brother. Thanks for having me on. Did i get anything wrong . Nope. So, when we look at i mean, look, i think go ahead, bud. No, i think theres so much going on at this point, right . Some things are clear, which is the lack of vaccination among a very large share of americans. About a third of those who are eligible is the dominant reason that the pandemic is growing. There are also some things we dont understand, right . As you can see in england that with delta it surges and then it recedes. So, there are aspects of this pandemic that we dont fully understand. But in terms of what the main problem is, its exactly what you said. Its that a huge portion of americans are not vaccinated. I take solace by the way in the peak diminishing Return Curve of this variant. It does suggest if you do the right things, it can be short in duration in terms of how rapidly it spreads buchlt theres a caveat in there that you have to do the right things. Corporate mandates, mandates in general within government, and now private sector, good, bad . Right, wrong . I would say effective. So, i would separate a little bit. I mean, i think there are people out there saying President Biden needs to enforce a national mandate. I think thats wishful thinking. I think it would get tied up in the courts. I think it might be ruled unconstitutional. Its not something we have any history with in this country. I dont think were going to see a national mandate. But i think corporate mandates are going to have an effect. We know from polls and from experience there are a significant number of people out there who are skeptical of the vaccine. But if you tell them you need to get it in order to keep your job, theyre going to get it. So, i think corporate mandates can have a big effect. And the fact that google and Facebook And Netflix have done this, what this means is if youre a small company and you want to do it and youre afraid, youre a lot less afraid now. Youre not going to be seen on the news as the company who put a mandate in because google and Facebook And Apple have done it. I have been big on the getting approved train. No, im not saying to rush the approval, fake the approval, manipulate the approval. But if its what Tony Fauci says which is theyre basically more dotting the is and crossing the ts, get more teem with pens. Get the work done. Not only do i think it is ammunition in terms of why its not legal to force people to take it, but also it hurts people who have hesitancy that its not approved. And i think that Dove Tails with what were seeing in some gaps from the cdc here about information. We can show where the cases are, but show us the break through infection data. Show us that cases have given an opening in places for this. About why you need to change guidance. Show data. Am i right or am i looking at it too closely . No, i think youre onto something important here, which is clear communication is a vital public health strategy. And its not enough look, the people who work at the cdc and the fda and the nih where dr. Fauci works, these are dedicated public servants who are trying to do the right thing. And i want to say that because im about to say things that are more critical. These are dedicated public servants trying to do the right thing. But when they communicate unclearly and they hide behind thats our process so we have to do it but it doesnt makes sense to the rest of us, theyre not doing their jobs as well as they could. So, the fda has not maintained a policy of neutrality. The head of the fda and other senior people at the fda have come out and said the best thing you can do is get vaccinated. So, theyre not neutral on this. Theyre out there advocating, and yet theyve fallen short of approving the entire vaccine, which has precisely the problems youve laid out. It raises doubts among people who maybe theyre looking for reasons to have doubts, but it raises doubts. And second of all it makes it harder for companies and organizations to mandate the vaccine. If the fda says we dont know yet, this is an emergency product, that would be one thing. But instead the leaders are out there endorsing the vaccine loudly at the same moment theyre not doing the most important thing that would lead people to do exactly what theyre telling people to do, which is get vaccinated. Thats just not clear speaking. Davids also written about the need for clarity with break through data, which is, by the way i apologize not to david. He knows everything but to you watching wherever you are. That is a confusing term. Weve never used it before and we just threw it into our conversations in the last week or so. Its an infection that somebody who is fully vaccinated gets. It breaks through the vaccine protection. And that data they havent really been on it. They havent really been controlling how much of the infections are variants and owho gets them and how they need to do better. And the reporting of people like david, specifically him, will help guide the way to accountability. So, david, thank you and come again. Thank you so much, chris. Be well and stay healthy. So, i say the unvaccinated and their enable rs. Why . Because a lot of people on the right who are telling you, you dont need to talk it, you know . Its safe, but, but, but, but, but. They dont even tell you if theyve taken it. And now we know some republicans in congress do need to take vaccines more seriously. Like i would argue, my next guest. Why . Because hes a doctor. Hes respected. He advocated early for covid and taking it seriously. And i believe he needs to ascend in his party right now. Next. Limu Emu Doug oh are you using liberty Mutuals Coverage Customizer tool . Sorry . Well, since you asked. It finds discounts and policy recommendations, so you only pay for what you need. Limu, youre an animal whos got the Bird Legs now . Only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. 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Lets discuss the new rules and the State Of Play with a House Republican who sits on the Rules Committee and is also a physician. Look, last time i had burgess on ive had him a couple of times on. Some of you say why, why. Ill tell you why. Because burgess is a doctor. I respect him. I respect his service. He was early on the truth of See Covid for what it is. He made multiple motions on the basis of it. He made motions to push the fda for a faster approval process. All right. So, dont Lump Everybody in together. All right . Doctor, thank you for being back on the show. Hey, chris. You know i ask myself the same question, why am i back on your show. But, look its important to get the message out there. This is a disease that has evolved significantly. It is a bad disease, the Delta Variant is real. And it is hurting people. The good news is if youve had even moderna or the pfizer vaccine, maybe the J J plus a booster shot, you are well protected against serious Illness And Death from the Delta Variant. And i think thats the message that people need to hear tonight. The choice is yours to be sure. Im not a fan of mandates. I think mandates drive oppositional behavior. We certainly saw that in texas when the governor mandated the Hpv Vaccine and had a lot of resistance to it. And to this day i dont think theres been the uptick there should have been. But, look, educate yourself. And heres The Other Place where you and i agree, if you havent had the vaccine yet, go talk to your doctor. The vaccines are available in doctors offices now. Some of the Cold Storage requirements have been relaxed, so your doctor can have it on board, have it available. Call first to make sure its available or you can go in to schedule the appointment to have the discussion. And after the discussion you can decide whether or not you want to take the vaccine. The private companies can, as a condition of employment, can certainly require the vaccine, and i respect that. I do think its strange that and this was testimony Last May that dr. Fauci at nih and dr. Marks at the fda and the head of the cdc said only 50 to 60 of their employees were vaccinated. And that was late may. So, thats thats concerning to me. And ive asked questions as to what theyve done to followup on that. Im not getting any answers. Ive had a call into the cdc for over a week to talk about just the very thing you talk about, what is this break through data . What is are people being tested for some other reason and then found to be positive . Or are they in fact symptomatic, which is what leads them to testing. At this point i cannot tell you. I dont know what the answer is there. But i also know this. The Delta Variant is bad. Serious complications do seem to be reliably prevented by taking one of the vaccines and following the advice of your doctor. So, i think i told you last time, dont get your Health Care Advice from a cable news show. Talk to your doctor. Right, look, but at the same time you know what i said last time. Youre an elected representative, youre a physician, you know what youre talking about. We need your voice right now. Im not telling you to pretend youre everybodys doctor. But when you have someone like Chip Royce stand up ive had him on the show. Hes welcome on the show. He stands up, what is it . Is it the mask or the vaccine . You know that is an asinine thing to say. You know the guidance is simple. I didnt hear that. He stood up and he said what is it . He is correct and this has concerned me for some time. The spread of the virus even before all of this started. The spread of the virus in places like the lower rio grande valley, in el paso, up in texas, it has been extremely concerning. Is it in fact coming across the border . That of course was a concern of the trump administration. Come on. Why they instituted the title 42 restrictions. But im saying its a little bit of a boogey man issue. We know there are cases all over the place. It doesnt have to be the migrants. And you know part of the protocols is they test. But its screwed up like everything else is screwed up in the Immigration System that never gets fixed. I dont see that ive advocated that we should provide the vaccines. Now that vaccines are generally available for american citizens and our pap lags, its time and youve got the single shot J J vaccine. I think that should be administered upon entry. Fine, but im saying you have much bigger problems than people coming through our immigration people. 20,000 people last month. Its a big deal in texas. You have a third of the population that hasnt taken the vaccine yet, doctor. I dont think that numbers correct. Really. Heres the thing wait a minute, wait a minute, why dont you think that numbers correct. Thats the number were being given by the government . I cant argue that point, but i you just said you dont believe it. Why . Well, i dont because in the area i represent with the big Vaccine Hub they stood up at Texas Motor Speedway and the county folks, fema was in there, the national guard, we vaccinated a ton of people in denton county, texas, a historically very vaccine hesitant part of The World. Thats good and in the 1980s people didnt take measles vaccines. Thats good. Its empirical but it doesnt let you understand whether or not to question the overall number. Call the cdc, see what the basis is the Cdc Wont Talk to me. I would love to talk to them. Get them on the phone. Lets have a discussion. Ill call them right after this and see what i can do. I think you should be in the loop on this. My point is this. Especially from your party, because these people listen to you. They listen to you in a way they wont listen to the media. They wont listen to people from the democratic party, but theyll listen to you. Him saying, what is it . Do vaccines work or not . We know they work. The data proves they work. And him suggesting something like that is fuelling hesitancy and we dont need it. Will you say on this show that yes on the left but theyre doing it and on the right you dont need to balance the suggestion to get the vaccine, go talk to your doctor with but remember you dont have to take it . You know, is it time for the people in your party to say, talk to your doctor, get the vaccine if you can . Sure. But look, i told you at the outsoefts, im not a big fan of mandates. I do think mandates drive oppositional behavior. You saw that at the Ground Level when Governor Perry mandated the Hpv Vaccine for schoolgirls in Exthe Tex right, what do you do when you have the oppositional behavior already . What are we supposed to do . Ive told you this before. The area i represent and ive long understood this from when i was in practice, theres a segment of the population that does not, is not, going to take a vaccine. I cant make them take it. But what i can do is vaccinate myself and my family and guess what, they get sick theyre not going to bother me. Well, weve got to take care of them because theyre our brothers and sisters. Absolutely. Congressman michael burgess, i hope you dont really regret coming on the show that often. Just a simple Country Doctor trying to do the lords work. Listen, as we all know, what the lord says is the love of me is the love of truth. Keep telling people what they need to do is dont play into the suggestions of some of the people in your party. Its not helping. But a appreciate you being here. Dont be divisive. My advice to you is lets not divide people. Lets bring them together. Weve had enough division. I want nothing more. Be well. Thank you. All right. It aint easy doing the right thing. Its not a praise worthy job, but it matters. And i believe in that, okay . People will listen to him. And they should listen to him. Go talk to your doctor. Dont listen to Chip Roy. Dont listen to kevin mccarthy. I dont know why the hell they are suggesting to you that this is suspect and you shouldnt do it. A very notable admission from congressman Jim Jordan, you know him. Nancy Pelosi Wouldnt allow him to be seated on the January 6th select committee. Should he now expect a subpoena from the panel . The media loves subpoenas because its like a gotcha contest. I dont see it that way. I see it about what the best avenue is to move the needle on January 6th in the understanding in our society. Congressman Adam Schiff is here to make the case next. 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But in terms of any expectation of violence on that day, i was focused on the arguments on house floor. I had little knowledge of what was going on down the mall until i noticed people starting to look at their phones and wat watching something. And i asked them what are you watching. I didnt expect any kind of big rally and i didnt expect anything thereafter. Relevance that he did . I think its very relevant. What information did he have . What was the source of that information . And, you know, was that information in connection with these white nationalist groups that were coming to that rally . And if he had advanced notice of it, did people in the administration and those who were organizing the rally . What did they know in advance of that, and why didnt they do something to stop it . Subpoenas for documents routinely would be the first phase, let you develop your Understanding And Figure out the testimony you want to access. Jim jordan on the Basis Oof what he had said about speaking to the president on the day of January 6th. Ill play his response for the audience to give context. I spoke with him on January 6th. I talked with President Trump all the time. On January 6th, did you speak with him before, during or after the capitol was attacked . I would have to go i i spoke with him that day after i think after. I dont know if i spoke with him in the morning or not. I just dont know. I would have to go back and i dont i dont know that when those conversations happened. Why would it be worth having Jim Jordan come to testify knowing the circus of victimization that would ensue . Well, first of all we havent made decisions yet on witnesses apart from the hearing we just said. My expectation is well develop an investigative plan. Well focus on the issues that need to be addressed and the questions that need to be raised. But jordan seems to be indicating that he talked with the president that day. And if that conversation involved what was happening in that day or happened on that day, that obviously could be very pertinent to our investigation. So, i dont want to make any declaratory statements right now. That would be up for the chairman to make. But certainly what you described in terms of both jordan and my other colleague from alabama, they both seem to be quite pertinent to what were looking at. As you know i have a rule, im not going to push you to speculate on things and get ahead of your own Fact Pattern and plan. As you progress, you are always welcome back on this show to make the case for where things stand and why. Congressman Adam Schiff, thank you very much sir. Thank you. One of the things i laid out i know theres a lot of response to what i said tonight. It is a tale of two societies. You have the vaccinated and you have the vacuous. What do you want me to tell you . Im not trying to insult them. 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Only from carvana. The new way to buy a car. Okay. You have vaccine resistant, skeptical, hesitant. And then you have just, im not taking it. A Restaurant Owner in california posted signs calling on customers to show proof that they have not gotten the vaccine. Hes also banned diners from wearing masks inside and put up this massive billboard that says, leave the mask, take the canoly. Of course it has to be an italian guy and hes using the God Father anyway. Tony roman is the owner and he joins me now from inside his restaurant. Welcome. Man, you said the name perfectly. You said it perfectly. Good job. Now i know youre italian. Its because i speak the language. Let me guess, you dont. I love it. I love it. Tony, is this a little bit of a joke. Can you give me some hope that you really dont want to people to not get vaccinated so they can come to your restaurant. Thats a good question. Youre a smart guy. Its an iq test. Like i say to people when they ask me, if theyre so blinded with their rage and their hate, i tell them, you know what, if you dont understand it, maybe we should put up a sign that says youre too stupid to come into the restaurant. Its very simple. I think you figured it out. Am i right . I dont even know what youre saying right now. Were making a point. So, whats the deal . Im saying were making a point. You answered the question. So, you havent been vaccinated . Nobody in your family has been vaccinated . Are you going to answer that when i ask you . Sure, ask me whatever you want. Now answer my question. Im not vaccinated. Are you . I am. How about your parents, your wife, your kids. You were hesitant. No, i got vaccinated. Im going to ask you the same things. Is that all right . Yeah, go ahead. No. Is your family vaccinated . Yes. See, what youre not getting, youre failing the iq test. What youre not getting which i expected. What youre not getting is that this is not an antivaccine stand. Its a profreedom stand. Thats what youre not getting. What is the difference when you are ignoring the science that suggests that if you get vaccinated you protect yourself, you protect the people around you and you help us get out of this pandemic a little bit faster . So, whats next . Are we all going to lock ourselves in our homes whenever theres a Flu Outbreak or theres an outbreak of a cold, awe Common Cold . Are we going to lock ourselves inside our homes and wear a Moon Suit . Where does it end . It ends with you getting the vaccine so that this virus doesnt keep replicating and creating variants that we need to find ways to combat. The whole reason this is happening is because people wont protect themselves, tony. I mean, what are you thinking . Then why did you leave your house when you had covid . You had it and out left your house. Its been documented. First of all, it has been documented my ass, its been documented. I quarantined. I went out my wife got accosted by somebody i dont know, man. I know you dont know. Im trying to help you. Trying to help me . Im trying to help you. You care about me all of a sudden. Enough to have you on the show. I was hoping it was a little bit of a stunt. You have the freedom not to take the vaccine. I just dont know why you think its a good move. Maybe we should ask your brother about protecting people, right . Look, thats his job. If he doesnt do it well, people wont vote for him. Whole new can of worms. Tony, i dont know if you know me too well. Im asking you about you. Yeah. Good. I appreciate that too because i know you talk a lot. So, my stance here is a Profreedom Stance only. Its not political. If you come down here youre not going to see a Trump Flag flying over the roof. Youre not going to see campaign signs, Campaign Slogans or political slogans ever. Youre only going to see profreedom messages and thats it. And youre not going to drag me down the hole talking about the science. This is not about whether im provaccine or not. Im profreedom, antityranny, okay . And maybe the conversation should really be between me and your brother. Thats what im thinking. Maybe so. Your pro freedom but People Cant Wear masks. Tony, it doesnt make sense. It really doesnt. I gave you a chance to make the case. I hope your family stays safe. I made my case. You didnt have much to say. Honestly you sound like an idiot. So do you. Only for having you on the show. That was my only mistake. Its stupid. Im profreedom. Its not about the vaccine, its about freedom. What the hell is he talking about . Of course you have the freedom not to take it. The question is is it a good move . He doesnt know the science. I hate hes Italian American by the way because he plays into a stereotype. This suggestion that somehow there is a strength in the resistance to the science, to the mandate, to being told you dont tell me, ill do, it just doesnt make any sense. It is such a false sense of strength. It is such a stupid ethnic stereotype, masculine, moronic thing to be. You want to talk about my brother, fine. Fine. I back away from nothing. I just cant cover it because it doesnt make any sense. Youd never believe me anyway. But Guys Loike this, i was hopig it was a stunt. Its not. Jokes on me. But i tell you what. Dont be like him. Well be right back. You need an ecolab scientific clean here. And here. Which is why the scientific expertise that helps Operating Rooms stay clean now helps the places you go too. Look for the Ecolab Science certified seal. After my dvt blood clot. I was uncertain. Was another around the corner . Or could things take a different turn . I wanted to help protect myself. My doctor recommended eliquis. 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That sucks for her because she was about to establish something i believe nobody would have ever equalled and would have been amazing for our country. But shes hurting. Head, heel, heart, hamstring, what difference does it make . Its all about pain and what you can handle and still perform. She showed that even though weve seen her fly of course shes still human. They all are. The olympics serve as a reflection of the moment. This one is shining a bright light on the need to deal with the reality we all live, body health, mind health, emotional health. It all plays the same role, deserves the same respect. Do we say someone has a Leg Health or kidney Health Issue, then why say Mental Health like its something separate from the body . Stigma, you or someone you care about has a Health Issue involving their emotions like tony who i just had on the show. Its a glaring reality, and now we can own it. And biles has been a gift in that way. Its the Torch Naomi osaka, the Tennis Player was carrying before she ever lit the cauldron. Remember this . These athletes are human and youve got to recognize that they are going to be affected greatly by the questions you ask, it really brings light to mental issues and not just Something Someone is possibly born with but when theyre going through a tragedy in their life and mow they respond to it. And Thats Something we should address. Pain is pain. The world watched every move biles made up to these games, stress, pressure, anxiety, cameras waiting at the airport, arrival in tokyo. But you werent listening to her, were you . On instagram when she talked of feeling, the, quote, weight of The World on her shoulders, the happiest time of her legendary career was her time off, yet notice who it is rushing to call her a quitter or selfish, same voices on the right that want to play on the frustration we all feel about needing to put a Mask Back on. When they have done more to prolong the pandemic than anyone, and now they want to extend a stigma, and shame on them. I guarantee you them and their own family, people they love about, they suffer. The same ones who would belittle the wounds still carried by Capitol Police officers. Suck it up. No, they need to shut up. They want you to believe the pain of January 6th ended when the terrorists went home. Hear the truth for yourself. Ive been left with the psychological trauma and the emotional anxiety of having survived such a horrific event. And my children continue to deal with the trauma of nearly losing their dad that day. Pain is pain. And let me tell you something, it is strength to admit it. We marvel at athletes who take The Field despite injury. Remember curt gibson, willis reed, carry strugg, remember her . You know what she did when she heard about biles . Supported her. Why . Because pain is pain. And ill tell you what its easier to hurt with a Hurt Joint or limb than it is with a hurt Head Or Heart where everything is telling you you cant go on. Because remember what gets you through the physical is the emotional and the mental. Mind over matter, what about when the minds not straight . Injuries can incapacitate. And if youre battling bad things, youre going to have bad outcomes. Mind, body, its all connected. All the hurt, the pain is real and deserves respect. And thats a gift biles gave us bigger than any gold medal. Well be right back with the handoff. Over here we go. Rock the boat dont rock the boat, Baby Rock the boat see disneys jungle cruise. Its time to rock the boat, america. At philadelphia, we know what makes the perfect schmear of cream cheese. You need only the freshest milk and cream. That one and The Worlds best, and possibly only, schmelier. Philadelphia. Schmear perfection. Monitor, check and lock down you money with security from chase. Control feels good. 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