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Unvaccinated americans, make no mistake, are fueling outbreaks all over this country. Take a look at this Map And Youll see very clearly all states but one are reporting increases, and big increases in many places of covid infections. Southern states where Vaccine Rates are the lowest, are being hit with the highest amount of Community Spread right now. All of this comes as the considered reversed its Mask Guidelines for fully vaccinated people. Dr. Anthony fauci saying its not the science that changed, its the virus, and the science must evolve with it. Lets begin with cnns John Harwood live at the White House on President Bidens big announcement. John, what do we expect to hear from the president . Reporter kate, every single Thing President Joe Biden wants to do as a matter of public health, reviving the economy, politically as well, hinges on getting this pandemic under control. What were seeing is because of the Delta Variant and because of the wall that the United States has hit in terms of Vaccination Rates among people who are resistant, were seeing a surge in cases, and the administration has got to do something. Now, the cdc yesterday, as you know, put out the guidance about masks in hightransmission area. So even fully vaccinated people indoors, in set tinges mixed with the unvaccinated are being advised to wear masks. Now we expect President Biden to use the federal Governments Role as a huge employer to try to change the trajectory here by requiring vaccinations of employees and contractors, and if people cannot show vaccination status, be subjected to testing. The hope is that private sector employers will follow suit. Were seeing that in some degree, in some settings. Were seeing that in universities and for some private businesses. More of that has to happen in order to change the rate of vaccination which is the one way out, the science tells us, from this pandemic. And President Biden is trying to effect that. John, thank you for that reporting. As we mentioned, it is in the south where the Covid Wildfire is spreading pretty much out of control right now. More than twothirds of the u. S. Population either live in a county with a high level of community transmission. Cnns Martin Savidge is live in arkansas which is completely red on our map, and yet a ban on Mask Requirements is set to go into effect today. Martin, what are you hearing there . Reporter that is very controversial because, of course, schools are set to begin august 16th. A lot of schools are rethinking, maybe we should get students and teachers to mask up, but they cant right now under law. Right now in arkansas, just like a lot of southern states, theyre suffering with a high transmission rate. The cdc says if you live in an area thats got a high or substantial rate, you ought to think about masking up indoors even if youve been vaccinated. That map is quite stunning. Whats even more stunning is, in a lot of areas of the country, its sections of the state. You get to the south, its entire states. States like arkansas, florida, louisiana, missouri, mississippi and alabama. They all fit into that masking category. Meanwhile, here, whats going on . This is a Testing Site in little rock, arkansas. In the early part of the summer, it got so slow they only needed a couple of people to operate it. That has changed and changed drastically in the last seven to eight days, medical experts say. On monday they tested as many as 500, yesterday as many as 300, a steady flow today. The reason for that is because of the number thats low. That is, the Vaccination Rate for the entire state which is hovering around 40 . If you want to see the heartbreak of what a lack of vaccination creates, you go to the arkansas Childrens Hospital pediatric intensive Care Unit where you will see its impact. Children. They never had so many children infected with covid19. Half of those cases are inside of that icu. To see those little bodies wrapped up with all those tubes in such dire condition is heartbreaking and its all avoidable, the experts say. Just get a vaccine. Kate. All avoidable and preventable at this point. Thank you so much, martin. So what is happening in arkansas is one of the reasons the cdc is making a big move you can say backwards, but it is the way forward now. Revising its guidance on masks, now saying even fully vaccinated people should be wearing masks indoors in public settings. Here is the science the Cdc Director says is driving this decision. Here is the new science We Saw just in the last several days. With prior variants, when people had these rare breakthrough infections, we didnt see the capacity for them to spread the virus to others. With the Delta Variant, we now see in our Outbreak Investigations that have been occurring over the last couple weeks, in those Outbreak Investigations, we have been seeing, if you happen to have one of those breakthrough infections, you can now actually pass it to somebody else. The Schbday Average of new coronavirus cases in the United States is now over 61,000 which is more than five times what it was a month ago. Joining me now is cnns chief medical correspondent, dr. Sanjay gupta. Sanjay, what do you think of this new data that the Cdc Director just explained is driving the change in the guidance . Well, i think this is concerning data. When youre vaccinated, youre still very well protected from getting sick. But it was sort of a question mark, how much does it protect you against actually potential becoming infected and transmitting the virus to others. Weve known that people can get infected for some time. That was even true from the original clinical trials. With this Delta Variant, its become increasingly clear, at least with dr. Walensky, based on data we havent seen. She has told me personally shes seen this data, that someone who is vaccinated and infected, the socalled breakthrough infection, they could carry the same amount of virus as someone who is unvaccinated and infected. The vaccinated person is still very well protected from getting sick in all that. But the idea they could potentially transmit is what she says is driving these new recommendations. One thing i want to say based on what martin was saying, the primary problem, to simply state it, is still unvaccinated people transmitting the virus to other unvaccinated people. Thats still the primary problem. I think that continues to be reinforced. This isnt about a problem with the vaccines, that the vaccines arent working. Thats not what this is. This is still only really happening because of the unvaccinated. When people inevitably ask, why do people need to wear masks again in school this year, this is all because people refused to get vaccinated. I really think thats the case. Its heartbreaking, kate. We were so tantalizingly close to actually bringing this pandemic in the United States into containment mode, as theyve done in countries around the world, but we couldnt get there, because theres still so many people who are unvaccinated. The virus continues to spread. You showed that map earlier. Those red areas, if you start to really dissect that data, youll find they are primarily areas that have less than 40 of the counties vaccinated. So theres a correlation between those red areas and low vaccination status. That shouldnt surprise anyone. But that is the fundamental problem. If you were to ask how much of an impact Will Masking vaccinated people really make, how much of an impact will that make . Maybe a little bit of an impact. But a far bigger impact would be, obviously, to get people vaccinated. If theyre not, they should be wearing Mass Bs for sure. Maybe the vaccinated people wear masks as well as a sign of good will. Pfizer also announced that they have new data suggesting a third shot of its vaccine produces the protective Antibody Levels against the Delta Variant that are more than fivefold, five times greater than the protection you have after the second shot. What does this mean, sanjay . Well, as we were just saying, the vaccines work really well. We know they work well. So thats great. If you add five times more protection to something that already works really well, im not sure that that means a lot, to be candid. There may be some people for whom they did not get a good Antibody Response because they have weakened immune systems. This may be something that is a good option for them. The bigger question, kate, is not so much do you get this gigantic burst of antibodies, its really how long does this protection last. The fact that you get five times more antibodies for somebody who already has good protection may be not that important. If Theres Evidence that people who are vaccinated are starting to get severely ill, that those numbers are going up, requiring hospitalization, all that, then i think we start talking about potentially boosters in those patients. Right now i feel my own example, i feel very protected because of the vaccine i received. Im not planning on going out and getting a Booster Shot right now. That was going to be our next question. Should we start talking about a third shot even sooner before the signs of waning immunity start appearing . Well, immunity its a great question. You want to be proactive on this, youre absolutely right. I think you have to be data driven. If Theres Evidence that the vaccine is waning, sure. Antibodies is one measurement. Theres lots of things that go into protecting someone after theyve received a vaccine. The real clincher will be if we start to see that Vaccine Efficacy starting to wane. Thats a great point. Great to see you, sanjay. Thank you very much. Happy birthday, kate. Thank you, sanjay. My Birthday Wish is always to spend it with you. Ill take it. Present is in the mail. Thank you. Lets focus in on florida right now. Florida leads the United States in new Coronavirus Infections in the last week. The surge is overwhelming some hospitals. The number of people so sick with coronavirus that they need to be hospitalized has nearly tripled since the beginning of the month. Joining me now is tammy daniels. She is the chief Nursing Officer at Baptist Medical Center in jacksonville, florida. It is your medical center which is seeing this problem right now. You have said that you cant open up beds fast enough right now. Whats happening in your hospital . What are you seeing . Hi, kate. What were seeing right now we actually have five hospitals over the jacksonville area. Were seeing patients coming into the Emergency Rooms very, very, very sick, needing to be admitted. The ones that need to be admitted are not vaccinated. The patients that come into the Emergency Rooms that have covid that have been vaccinated are going home. The really sick patients coming in are going into our progressive and icu areas. They need a Highflow Amount of oxygen and theyre creating the need for us to make more beds outside of our intensive Care Units. My colleague Randi Kaye spoke with a few of the unvaccinated patients youre talking about, that are so sick they need a high level of care in your hospital. I want to play something from two of them for our viewer. I have shortness of breath. I feel sorry about not getting a vaccine. Reporter youre sorry you didnt get the vaccine. Do you think you would be here if you had gotten the vaccine . No. Reporter you were more concerned about the vaccine than the disease and now youre saying you regret it. Exactly, yes. Reporter youre wishing you got the vaccine . Yes. Reporter you probably wouldnt be here. Exactly. Its really heartbreaking to hear that from patients who, you can see them struggling to find a breath. What else are you hearing from these unvaccinated patients that youre caring for . Kate, what were hearing is theyre also very fatigued, that they just dont have energy. They cant even walk around in their homes and they just wish they would have been vaccinated so they wouldnt be going through this. The other thing theyre really concerned about is exposing their families. Weve actually had whole groups of Family Members that have had to be hospitalized because theyre infecting Each Other. Thats a great concern for people that are coming into our hospitals, how do i protect my family from getting what i have. This surge around the counted is driven by the unvaccinated. I was going over that with sanjay gupta. A third of the people in this country eligible for a Shot Havent gotten it. Im hearing more Frustration And Anger from folks who have gotten the shot, who are vaccinated, over all of this because this pandemic is still surging. From what youre seeing in your hospital and throughout this pandemic, are you angry . You know, i have a lot of emotions and our team many embers are doing excellent jobs. Theyre sad. They feel like if more people were vaccinated, the spread would decrease and we wouldnt be going through this. Theyre really heartbroken is what i would say because they feel like some of the suffering could have been avoided. Probably a lot of it. What is your message to folks who are still resisting getting a shot, also pushing back against wearing masks again . Are you hearing from any of these patients what would have convinced them to get a shot, to get vaccinated and protect themselves so they would not have ended up where they are right now . What my message is, and ive had my own Family Members asking me this, is the science is right in front of our eyes. This is not political thing. This is science. 97 of the patients that are sick in our hospitals have not been vaccinated. So we need to step up, and in the meantime, it takes a while to build the antibodies from the vaccine. I think we need to use other types of protection to protect Each Other. That goes back to what we did, masking and social distancing, until the vaccine can take the effect we need it to take. The message is, the science is right in front of our eyes, and its unfolding rapidly, too rapidly. Thank you so much for being here and thank you for your work. Happy birthday. Thank you very much. And shes still kind in spite of everything shes up against. Thank you very much. Coming up for us, Simone Biles, the greatest gymnast of all time, withdrawing from a second competition to put her Mental Health first. The latest from the Tokyo Games next. Also, a south Carolina Man convicted for killing a man who mistakenly got into his car believing it was an uber. Details ahead. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. [announcer] dearest smoke shacks, defenders of the dry rub. Thank you for giving your all to a 20pound Hunk of brisket. Whatever you serve, well proudly deliver it. Bike Rattling pleasant Piano Music Realtor the previous owners left in a hurry, so the house comes with everything you see. Follow me. realtor so, any questions . wife well take it realtor great. vo it will haunt your senses. The Heartpounding Audi Suv family. Get exceptional offers at your local audi dealer. 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Its a bombshell, kate. Something that was entirely unexpected basically 24, 25, 26 hours ago, this news hit. It has reverberated around the Olympic Games in a way i have not seen a story be so surprising and also reach out to almost everyone in the games. In other words, ive been at the Swimming Venue today. Of course its late now here, but all day, and swimmer after swimmer coming in. Theyve won an olympic gold medal. Katie ledecky asking about Simone Biles. She went on for several minutes talking about her concern and her friendship with Simone Biles and the pressure that she faces and that simone faces, and all the cameras right in their face, trying to perform coming back for another olympics. I really think were seeing a story of course a Human Being that people are worried about and a story that is resonating throughout countries, throughout sports. Simone biles is that important to people, and the issue, the issue of Mental Health with these athletes, its truly resonating at these Olympic Games. This is on the heels of Naomi Osaka withdrawing, citing Mental Health. I want to play what Michael Phelps said this morning. Hes become really outspoken about his Mental Health struggles. Listen. This is an opportunity for us, All Of Us to really learn more about Mental Health. To all help Each Other out. For me, i want people to be able to have Somebody Ha can support them, who is nonjudgmental and who is willing to hold space. Theres a lot that we can do to help one another, and we have to start. We Cant Brush it under the rug this is about a Human Being, and shes talking about something shes struggling with before the world. Shes going through this before the world. Where do you think this conversation goes from here . Kate, i really think that this conversation is about to turn into a movement, and maybe it already has. By that i mean, you mentioned Naomi Osaka, Simone Biles, Simone Manual is going to swim in the 50 free trial, already won a bronze. At the olympic trials last month, she came in and talked about overtraining syndrome and about her Anxiety And Depression she had during the pandemic, another olympian talking about those issues. Of course, Michael Phelps. Theres so many of these stories out there. These are Role Models for millions and millions of people around the world, especially kids, young people looking up to them. I do think this, again, conversation moving to actually a movement where it really resonates with people and they can listen to these great athletes. Look, what do you make of what i think is surprising outrage, mostly online where the worst of society lives. What do you make of it . I think its an Old School thought, right, just like tough it out, play hurt. How many times do we hear that in football and other sports. You get your bell running. Go and play. That would be the Concussion Issue which, of course, its horrifying now. We as a society progress, we learn, we get better at things. When you get better, whether in the medical field, what have you, you adapt. Those people are living in the past, when you sucked it up and went back in the game. That is such an antiquated view with the knowledge we have about things like concussions, or in this case about Mental Health. The fact is, if Simone Biles is not in tiptop shape, she could get injured very severely with the incredible routines that she does. Its a high wire act. This is not the kind of thing, just go out there and do it. Simone biles could put herself in Grave Danger with some of those flips and all the different things that she does, if she were to continue on in this manner. It can be deadly serious. Very good to see you, christine. Thank you very much. Thank you. 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Thats intensified in the last six months, in the aftermath of January 6 as mccarthy fighting her on the investigation. This came in response to mccarthy, when they threatened to bring back Mask Mandates, its conjured up by liberal Government Officials who want to live in a perpetual pandemic state. I can say now theres a Mask Mandate in the house, where members can be fined, youre seeing tension again play out on the floor. Congressman Lauren Bow Berg of colorado threw a Mask Back at a staffer earlier today when she was given a mask and told to wear one. She slid it back to the staffer, but a witness told me they actually saw her throw that Mask Back at that staffer. Republicans on the floor protesting. Theres also a sign of some bipa bipartisanship, talk of a bipartisan Infrastructure Deal coming together as soon as today. Well see if they can pass it. Some bipartisanship on the senate side, and a polarized State Of Affairs on the house side. All at once. Thank you, manu. Appreciate it. New Satellite Images are showing that china is apparently building up its nuclear capabilities. Researchers say its possible more than 100 Missile Silos are being built in a new base in chinas western deserts. This is the second Missile Base found this month alone. It comes as President Biden issues a new Warning Yesterday over the escalating cyber threat by china and russia. Weve seen how cyber threats including Ransomware Attacks are increasingly causing Damage And Destruction in the real world. I Cant Guarantee this, and youre as informed as i am, but i think its more likely well end up in a war, a real Shooting War with a major power, its going to be as a consequence of a cyberattack. Joining me is democratic congresswoman mikey cheryl. She serves on the house armed services committee. Thank you for being here. On this new study, uncovering what appears to be a second location. Together, the site signifies the most significant expansion of the chinese Nuclear Arsenal ever. How concerned are you about this . Its certainly concerning the see china increasing its nuclear capacity. This is something we are prepared for and are preparing for, the new national Defense Strategy of the United States takes into account the global competition and sees china, along with russia as a global competitor. I think the president is smart to start the discussion of cyber. As We Saw at the g7, he laid out a list of those things that should not be attacked, presumably so we can start discussing and coming to a global agreement as to what is appropriate in the realm of cyber and what may constitute, as the president alluded to, an act of war. Those are on going discussions. Its important we continue to support our military in our national Security Strategy as we move towards this global competition. Do you agree with the president when he says most likely the next Shooting War, kinetic military action, is going to be over a cyberattack . Lets hope it never gets to that. Thats what our strategy is, so we can deter that type of aggression. We learned that throughout the cold war. We also learned another lesson. Hopefully as we move into this new realm, we can do better visavis our economic relationship with china. They are a global economic partner. We have many ties there. We are interconnected in the global world. Im hoping as we are wary, we need to set some Rules Of The Road for cyber. We need to assure we can compete with chinas military and make sure that we continue to hold that advantage and deter any threats of aggression. But we also need to ensure that we are working on our economic relationship and working to ensure that we promote our economy around the world. Thats looking at the threat from abroad, but to the threat here at home. The brutal and devastating testimony from the four officers yesterday, the first hearing of the select committee investigating the January 6th attack, i want to play something that Officer Harry Dunn said during the hearing, getting at who he thinks should be held accountable and what he wants the committee to work towards. I use an analogy to describe what i want, a Hit Man. If a Hit Man is hired and he kills somebody, the Hit Man goes to jail. Not only does the Hit Man go to jail, but the person who hired them does. There was an attack carried out on January 6th, and a Hit Man sent them. I want you to get to the bottom of that. The Committee Hasnt yet said who will be asked to or even potentially subpoenaed to testify if needed. Who do you want to hear from . You know, there are a loeft of people that i want to hear from. Im glad we were able to start this. I think the committee was very smart in starting this with testimony from our Law Enforcement officers. I think they laid out exactly what happened that day. What really struck me about the testimony from our Law Enforcement officers was the real duty they feel towards our constitution, the duty they know they have to protect and defend our democracy. Now, as a member of congress and having the committee, its our duty to make sure we get to the bottom of what happened that day, that we protect and defend our constitution and our democracy. Something that stood in stark Contrast Yesterday was the emotion and the seriousness and the real determination to protect this country that you saw in that Committee Hearing. That was sharply contrasted with kevin Mccarthys Press Conference and even trying to blame some of the heroes of that day, heroes that protected the lives of members of congress, including myself, to try to blame them for the events and mott the former president who really incited those events. Can you offer one name you would like to see testify as this goes forward . Certainly, i would like to see members of the president s administration. I would like a Minutebyminute Account of what happened that day and to hear exactly who was in the room with the president as he was making these decisions, what they said. I would like to look at a list of members of congress who were speaking to those crowds, speaking before them, to understand what they were saying, the conversations they had that day as the crowds moved towards attacking the capitol. It could reach far and very close very near to the capitol as this investigation goes forward. Congressman, thank you for your time. Thank you. Coming up for us, a big announcement from the uk that impacts american and european travelers. The breaking details just coming in. Thats next. Intr oducing oreid. Where oreida golden crinkles are your crispy currency to pay for bites of this. With this. When kids wont eat dinner, potato pay them to. Oreida. Win at mealtime. 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At carvana, we treat every customer like we would treat our own moms, were our heroes. They risked their lives to save the capitol, our democracy to count them and certify the president of the United States. There was an assault on that particular day. It wasnt just any day of the week, to make sure that we did not honor the constitution and that we would disrupt the peaceful transfer of power. Those Law Enforcement officers were heroes. They risked their lives to honor the oath they take to uphold the constitution. Their testimony was powerful. We thank these patriots for their Patriotism And Valor of that dark day. We thank them for their courage to present the harrowing testimony of what happened that day. We have a duty to the constitution and to the country to find The Truth, to follow the facts where they take us and to honor the trust that the american people have placed in us. We must ensure that the american people have confidence in The Truth that emerges. We tha thank our heroes, more t just the four who testified, but the story they told. I have quoted President Lincoln on many occasions, and i did most recently Yesterday Morning to the house democratic caucus. This is what he said during the civil war. We cannot escape history. We of this Congress And Administration will be remembered in spite of ourselves. No personal Significance Or Insignificance can spare one another of us. He then went on to say, lincoln did, we bear the responsibility to find The Truth and to ensure this is my words now this attempt to overthrow the government never happens again. This is called patriotism. Its about the constitution, about the Life And Future of our american democracy. Theres no room for politics or partisanship. I salute Chairman Thompson and the entire committee for the Solemnity And Patriotism they brought to the proceedings. Im very proud of all of them, but All Of Us are most proud of the Law Enforcement officers who testified. As the select committee pursues The Truth, the house continues to work for the people. Right now we have the Appropriations Bills on the floor that meets the needs of american families. I always take price being a member of the committee. Its a place where we always strive for bipartisanship, always try to find common ground. The president said that help is on the way. Well, we can say with these bills that help is here. For the investments in jobs, opportunity and, again, Working Families. Thats what junites us as democrats, our commitment to americas Working Families, despite whatever differences we may have. And in this legislation, were benefiting american Working Families with investments in health, education and financial security as we advance justice. Were rebuilding the infrastructure as we take america into a clean Energy Future to fight the climate crisis. Were helping workers by creating jobs thousands of good paying jobs that this legislation will engender. Were fighting future pandemics and advancing americas pre eminence in science. Science, science, science and science. Weve been listening to House Speaker Nancy pelosi reflecting on the emotional and brutal testimony yesterday from the four officers at the Committee Hearing investigating the insurrection. That investigation will continue. Were going to continue to monitor what the speaker says and bring you the highlights as they come in. Were also tracking this, this is just in to cnn, the uk will be opening its borders to some fully vaccinated travelers starting next week. Travelers from the United States and the European Union will soon be allowed into the uk without quarantine. Cnns Scott Mclean is live at heathrow airport. Scott, what more are you learning about this . Reporter england is a pretty good place to visit. The pubs and restaurants are open, you can go to a sporting event. The Tourist Attractions are open. The throngs of tour buses havent arrived yet. The only problem is getting here. Right now from the United States, to do a round trip, you would have to do no less than five tests, quarantine for a minimum of five days, more likely six or seven. It would cost you well over 200 in testing costs, and thats if you shopped around. By contrast, its quite easy for americans to go to europe. So despite the fact the uk has this huge vaccination advantage, its been losing out on tourist dollars to europe. Heathrow airport has been lobbying for this change, other airports as well. Americans and europeans, the but it is a far cry from the restrictions in place before. The hope, obviously, is that it will boost tourism in this country. Back here at home, what the country is experiencing now in the United States is the pandemic of the unvaccinated. It is no more evident than when you hear the stories from the patients and their families fighting for their lives in hospitals across the country as we speak. William and Alisha Ball are in the fight of their lives right now. She was vaccinated, william was not. Both got infected with coronavirus, but only he ended up in the hospital. Hes no longer infectious but the virus wreaked havoc on his body and he is still too sick to go home. Joining me is Alisha Ball from jackson, mississippi. Thank you very much for being here. What is the latest on your husband . How is he doing . A little bit better. Still having a lot of problems. They ruled out some major th things. They ruled out the Heart Attack and sepsis, but he is still really, really struggling. Describe that struggle for folks and how even after hes no longer infectious how much he is suffering and the damage this virus has done to him . He is on 15 liters of oxygen. We have to get down to 4 before he can go home. He cannot breathe at all hardly. He went from working 1216 hours a day because he own our own Construction Company to now he tries to sit on the side of the bed for 3 minutes and then is worn out. He might can do that twice and then hes exhausted, has to lay back down. He Cant Walk at all hardly. Just having a difficult time, very difficult. That almost feels like an understatement what he is going through and what you guys are going together. Im so sorry, alisha. Ive heard you say that both of you did not take this virus seriously at first. Why not . I dont know. I guess we just didnt know anybody around that had it. I guess we didnt really see the effects at first and then it kind of got more real. Talk to me about what youre feeling right now. You want to use your story for people to wise up and for people to get vaccinated and for people to protect themselves. Just talk to me about what youre feeling. He will get the vaccine when he gets out. We have really tried to after this talk to as many of our friends and family as possible that they should get it. I never really realized how bad it would be, how bad this Delta Variant would be. Im exhausted. I havent slept. Im really worried. What are you worried about . If hell recover. Im terrified that he might not recover. Ive been praying so hard and so, so, so many people are praying for him that he will recover. Its just really bad right now. What do you think there are so many people who still have not gotten vaccinated and who think and feel the same way that you and william did before you both got infected. What do you think will or what do you hope will or do you think anything will convince people . If it isnt just convincing them, seeing the pain on your face and seeing your tears and what you are living through right now and what your husband is going through right now. I just never thought it could be as bad as it is right now, from him going to the hardest working person i know, taking care of everybody, his family, his customers, everybody, to its a good day if he can sit up on the side of the bed twice for 3 minutes. Its just devastated his body. I wouldnt want anybody else to go through this. Absolutely not. You are, im sure, just exhausted mentally, physically, spiritually. Thank you, though, for your strength. And for the strength i know you are offering to your husband. Please give him our best and thank you for being here and for telling us your story. Thank you. Thank you so much. Alisha ball. Thank you all so much for joining us at this hour. Inside politics with John King after a quick break. That i should get used to people staring. So i did. Its okay, you can stare. When youre a twotime gold medalist, it comes with the territory. Im really nervous. I dont know what i should wear. Just wear something not too crazy, remember its a Business Dinner not a Costume Party. On a spotty network this is what she heard. Just wear something crazy, remember its a Costume Party. A Costume Party . Yes anybody want to split a Turkey Leg . Woo you are busy. Working, parenting, problem solving. At new Chapter Vitamins weve been busy too. Innovating, sourcing organic ingredients, testing them and fermenting. Fermenting . Yeah like kombucha or yogurt. And we formulate everything so your body can really truly absorb the natural goodness. Thats what we do, so you can do you. New chapter wellness, well done. Hello. Welcome to inside politics. Im John King in washington. Senators strike a deal. The bipartisan Infrastructure Framework is done, the top negotiators say. Tonight, a possible Test Vote that could dictate the shape of a biden agenda. And the covid numbers force a major biden reset. Now, a call for most americans to mask up indoors again. 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