Right now at this stage of the Coronavirus Pandemic with three vaccines readily available. But thats exactly where we are. With covid infections rising in nearly every single state. That deep red that you see represents Infection Rates going up by at least 50 over the prior week. Hospitalization rates, theyre also moving in the wrong direction. And due to the staggering number of americans still opting out of getting a lifesaving vaccine. Theres even an active discussion happening right now to reverse the cdcs Mask Guidance for vaccinated americans. Were going in the wrong direction. Do you think masks should be brought back for vaccinated americans . You know, jake, this is under active consideration. If youre asking, am i part of the discussion . Yes, i am. So the surge may seem familiar, but one factor that sets it apart from the others is that it was fully preventable. We have multiple vaccines available that would enable the country to reach Herd Immunity and return to normalcy. But instead, the u. S. Is not even at the 50 fully vaccinated mark. And the figures are even more sobering when you stack them up against other countries. Joining me now, cnns harry enten. Hes looking at this. So lets just talk about how far back the u. S. Has fallen behind canada and the uk among the adult population. This is stunning because if you go back a few months ago, the u. S. Was kicking canadas butt. Now Take A Look at the stats. This tells you everything you need to know. The u. S. At 69 of adults with at least one Vaccine Dose. Canada is up to 80 . Look at where england is. 88 and its not like we dont have the Vaccine Doses available, ryan. We do. We have just stalled over the last few months because people are not on the uptick right now. Its quite honestly very disappointing. And you point out in canada, its, in part, because here in the united states, trump voters are far less likely to get vaccinated than are conservative voters to our north and in the united kingdom. Its not as if there arent conservatives in those countries. There absolutely are conservatives in that country. Look at canada. Look at by vote in the last national election. The liberal new Democratic Average in canada, 85 . Similar to the percentage of Joe Biden supporters who have at least one Vaccine Dose at 84 . Look at the conservatives. Yes, they trailed the liberals in canada but theyre at 69 versus the Donald Trump supporters here with at least one Vaccine Dose. Just 52 . And Take A Look at the united kingdom. Does that pattern old there . Take a look here. By winner in the last national election. In the england constituencies, what We Saw is 90 , in the ones the conservatives won, 90 of those Age 18plus are vaccinated. Among those the conservatives didnt win, its just 82 . So its, in fact, a reversal of what we see in the united states where the states that biden won, 15 points more the population is vaccinated in those states. This isnt just a conservative thing across the board. Its really unique to the united states where the conservatives are so much less vaccinated than the liberals are. And led by someone by the name of Donald Trump. And lastly, theres been a recent push by some Fox News personalities to urge people to get vaccinated. You have any theories as to why, harry . Yeah. I have at least one good theory. That is the Fox News audience is far less vaccinated than the other audiences who watch television news. Look at this. Age 18plus with one covid Vaccine Dose by main source of news. Cnn msnbc, 83 . Abc, cbs, nbc, 79 . Fox news, just 62 . Thats so disappointing. This should not be a partisan issue. Everybody at this point should be getting the vaccine if theyre adult, especially if their recodr. Recommends It Andt Doctors do. Its so disappointing. Thats why youre seeing some of the Folks News hosts say get that vaccine because they are trailing behind so many other news audiences. Well see if it makes a difference. Thanks for breaking down those numbers. It offers us the opportunity to bring in andy slavitt, the former White House senior adviser for president bidens covid Response Team. So andy, its pretty clear that this has become the pandemic of the unvaccinated. You heard harry talk about the difference between Fox News viewers and viewers of other News Outlets. When you were at the White House, did you ever personally have a discussion with anyone from Fox News about the role they need to play in helping to save lives . Okay. Sorry. Obviously, were having an issue with andys audio right now. We are going to see if we can work out that technical difficulty and try and get andy back here in a second. Actually, andy is back. Andy, i believe i can hear you now. Can you hear me . It was not the mute button, i promise. All right. No problem. So answer that question for me if you remember. Yes, well, i actually went on Fox News a number of times. Most of us believe that this should not be and doesnt need to be a political conversation. I think we started out that way. And as with masks, i think there were people who had other ideas and thought that, no, your decision on whether you should get vaccinated should be part of your political identity. And thats happened to a large extent as a u. S. Phenomenon as you just showed in the prior data you showed. But there really is no need for that. And there really is no need for different messages for different people. We all care about our family. We all care about our community. We all need to make sure that we are just giving people the straight information. The straight information is we have very high quality, very safe vaccines. So do you know right now if anyone from the administration is behind the scenes having conversations with the leaders at some of these conservative News Outlets to try to get them to send a different message . I dont know specifically, but we spent a lot of time and i imagine they still are talking to leaders in the conservative communities, talking to evangelical leaders. Spent a lot of time with hugh hugh hewitt, conserve diative pollsters. If you wanted to communicate to people, we needed to understand where they were coming from. In general, what we heard was, tried not to ostracize people and shame them into getting the vaccine, that that doesnt work. But to help them point them to people that they trust in the community, to their own doctors, to other local people to try to depoliticize the issue as much as possible. The president has tried. You can only get so far with that issue now. When you actually talked to people who refuse to get the vaccine, it seems that one issue that comes back often is that it has yet the vaccine itself has yet to get full fda approval. Its only under Emergency Use Authorization right now. A lot of people cite that as part of the reason for not getting vaccinated. This is what dr. Fauci told Jim Acosta recently regarding that potential timeline of full approval. Take a listen. The final decision is going to be up to the fda, and i would imagine that likely will not happen until we get well into the winter, towards The End of this year. So president biden, though, recently said it could happen by The End of next month. And i also want to compare these timelines with the former Surgeon General under former president trump. This is what Jerome Adams said about that timeline. The quickest way to get people vaccinated is through mandates. And we cant have mass mandates. Youre hearing this from the military and other businesses until you have full licensure of these vaccines. If you want to get a bunch of people vaccinated really quickly, get the vaccines licensed and youll see the military make it mandatory and businesses make it mandatory. First, do you believe Vaccine Mandates should be on the table . Its very controversial, but is it something that the government should be considering . Look, i think whether you are the government, whether you are a municipal government, business, a venue, you should absolutely be considering every way you can to make it safe to be in your business and in your location. If that means to tell people, look, you can we require you to have a vaccine or if you choose not to get vaccinated, you need to take a test multiple times a week and demonstrate that youre negative for the virus. I think thats the fairest way to do that and it can be done now. That doesnt need to wait on the fda. I think with all respect to Jerome Adams and everybody else, its important that the Public Trust the fda and that the fda take the time they need. If it takes an extra couple of weeks. I dont think it will take until The End of the year. But if it takes a couple more weeks for them to do a thorough job it will only have the desired impact if people know they werent bowing to political pressure. The last administration spent a lot of time pressuring the fda. I think its wise that what dr. Fauci said, which is that we let the fda get their work done when they need to. But in the meantime, we should be aggressively considering requiring people to be vaccinated or at least have a negative test to come on site. So just to pin you down. Do you think end of august, fall . How soon do you think that full authorization could come . Well, i can only say what i hope. And my hope is some time in august if not september. They have lots of data. More data on these vaccines than has existed for any other Fda Decision ever. Thats both good and bad. The good is they can be very assured of the Quality And Efficacy of the vaccine. The bad is theres just a lot more to go through and the best scientists in the world going through it. I hope they do it quickly, but i also dont think they need to bow to pressure from me or anybody else. Lets talk about masks and the future of masks. Obviously, many of us thought wed put the masks away for good. But dr. Fauci saying that there is a consideration right now for the cdc to change their recommendations, meaning that the fully vaccinated may have to begin wearing masks again in public settings. You were still a senior adviser with president bidens covid Response Team when the cdc pulled back on that indoor Mask Guidance in may. In retrospect, do you think that was a mistake . Did you move too quickly . Well, here again, we let the Fda Review the science and make their own decisions. As unusual it is, we at the White House did not make that decision. But i would say is this. When theres a low prevalence of cases and there are a lot of people vaccinated, theres very theres a lot less reason to wear a mask. So i think that was the case before and in parts of the country, thats still the case. If you go into a room with people you know are vaccinated, very little reason to wear a mask. Having said that, now that we have the Delta Variant spreading and a lot of people in different parts of the country that are testing positive. In missouri, close to 15 positive rate. It does make sense to wear a mask. I liken it to this. Wearing carrying an getting vaccinated is equivalent to carrying an umbrella. It keeps you mostly dry, but doesnt mean in a bad storm you shouldnt also wear a Rain Jacket if you want to ensure that you stay dry. Does make sense to have layers of protection when you need them. Dont get rid of those masks yet is what youre saying. Could still come in handy as we get through this situation with the coronavirus. Andy slavitt, thanks for your perspective. Appreciate you being here. Still to come these vaccines are saving lives. Get vaccinated. Pollease take covid seriousl. 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Do you think that this is a political risk for these two republicans, and if so, just how much of a risk is it . Yeah, ryan, great to see you. It breaks my heart to say, yeah it is a political risk. They are taking a real political risk by joining this commission but its a risk that, among many other risks, noble, brave and morally courageous Risk Theyve already taken. Liz cheney and Adam Kinzinger have proved that they have absolute backbone to stand for their positions. The way the 6th'>January 6th commission has been treated by the house republican leadership going around undermining it, pretending they want a bipartisan, undermining it and lobbying in private against it, and has really and then having it pass and suggesting that its partisan while doing everything they can to make it completely partisan has frankly succeeded in undermining the mission of the commission itself and diminishing it to what is perceived by republicans now as a completely partisan witch hunt. So that even republicans who are the good guys, the ones who voted for impeachment, some of them who are in really tight races. And theyre all in tight races. They all have primaries, some tougher than others. But its very difficult for a jaime Herrera Beutler a Dan Newhouse or Peter Meijer to volunteer and sign up for this if they are really going to fight for their seats. What weve seen from Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger is they just dont care. Theyre willing to risk their seats, and they might. I think of john katko, too, who authored the independent commission and wanted no part of this select committee. Kinzinger is there because pelosi kicked out two of kevin mccarthys two picks. This was a political risk for the speaker. To margarets point about how its become hyperpartisan. Did pelosi make the right call here . I think so. You know, look, mccarthy was obviously not operating in good faith. And, you know, you had three folks who voted against the commission. Two people who overturned the election to signs who signed on to the amicus brief. You come out of the gaetzte say your job is to undermine and attack the ideas behind the commission, thats not bipartisanship. You dont put 9 11 truthers on a 9 11 commission. So i think to some Extent Pelosi has outflanked him by adding kinzinger to Liz Cheney. Makes it more difficult to call this partisan. At The End of the day, some things are bipartisanship, one is democracy. Do you support democracy or trying to overturn elections . Members of the Sedition Caucus Shouldnt go shredding Crocodile Tears about this. These two people are credible. It adds to the credibility of the commission and they should go on to do their work to put forward the facts. Thats what some are afraid of. Nancy pelosi, instead of compromising the or risking for other republicans who really do need to fight for their seats because this has become so partisan, i would suggest that she reached out to republicans who are not serving in congress now who have stature in order to make this truly bipartisan because that will actually help to undermine this narrative that its just you like that idea . He likes the idea. This is good. Listen thats what the 9 11 commission did if you recall. The speaker has done that. She had Denver Riggleman in her office on friday. Thats great. Talk about some of these former Republican Members perhaps serving, not necessarily on the committee but in an advisory capacity. Lets talk about covid. And were seeing the right coalesce around a provaccine message. Take a listen to this. These vaccines are saving lives. They are reducing mortality. We should be getting the facts out there and encouraging people to take it. Get vaccinated. I want to encourage everybody to do that and to ignore all of these other voices that are giving demonstrably bad advice. Please take covid seriously. I cant say it enough. Enough people have died. I believe in science. I believe in the science of vaccination. So thats a lot of conservative leaders, encouraging people to take the vaccine but in reality, is there really only one person that is important when it comes to this discussion and thats the former president . Listen to what he said last night. How about the vaccine . I came up with the vaccine. They said it would take three to five years. Going to save the world. I recommend you take it, but i also believe in your freedoms 100 . So he kind of said you should take it. Margaret, positive development overall, but, you know, can you explain the aboutface from all of these republicans that have been kind of putting the vaccine at an Arms Length and now are bear hugging it . Look, i think i think the rubber hit the road in terms of this Delta Variant and where it started hitting in Red States. The fact you had much bigger majorities of people that werent vaccinated in Red States and you saw those numbers in arkansas and missouri and the Delta Variant becoming the widest and quickest spreading variant. Of course, pernicious and lethal to people who are not vaccinated. I think everybody got the message at the same time. I just wish it had happened six months ago. And for the sake for truly for the sake of people who have suffered and died and lost lives. And this isnt political. But it has been made political by republicans who wouldnt Take That stand earlier, and im glad theyre doing it now. It will save lives. But, man, this was too late. Were going to have to leave it there, john. Sorry, margaret gets the last word. Youre probably used to that. Im used to that. Well let you have the first question next time around. Thanks for joining me. Catch margaret on pbs firing line. A quick note about the 6th'>January 6th committee. Wolf blitzer has special coverage of tuesdays hearing at 9 00 a. M. Here on cnn. President Biden Making Calls Today trying to reach a deal on infrastructure as one of the deals brokers teases that they are incredibly close to getting there. Well take you live to the White House when we come back. First, a quick programming note. When it comes to the sitcom, theres one thing we can all agree upon. The workplace has some horrible bosses. From Michael Scott in the office to jack of 30 rock, find out the inspiration to some of your favorite characters on the next new episode of history of the Sitcom Tonight at 9 00 only here on cnn. New they couldnt fit it in their last ad. Like new smashed avocado and artisan italian bread. 100 Wildcaught Tuna. Hold up 100 Wildcaught Tuna aint new subway®s always had 100 Wildcaught Tuna yall tried to sneak one in on the chuckster when technology is easier to use. 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One of those being exactly how to pay for it and then also things like Water Projects and transit funding. But a little earlier today, two of the senators who are involved in those negotiations expressed some optimism about where things are heading. Take a listen. Were about 90 of the way there. Im here this weekend working on legislative language with colleagues and staff and i feel good about getting that done this week. Were down to the last couple of items and i think youll see a bill monday afternoon. So those senators hopeful that there will be some type of agreement potentially Tomorrow And Theyve been working with their teams over the weekend, including today to try to hammer out some of those final details. But even as those lawmakers are working towards that bipartisan Infrastructure Proposal, there is also that element of the larger 3. 5 trillion sweeping package that democrats are expected to pass just on democratic ic lines. And the president as he was arriving back here at the White House just a short while ago was asked about immigration. Whether that may be part of the reconciliation proposal. The president saying that he does want to see a path to citizenship, but said that it remains to be seen whether that will be pursued in reconciliation. There are, of course, some questions when it comes to the parliamentarian and whether that will be allowed to be part of the reconciliation package. This week is another critical week for the president when it comes to that Infrastructure Proposal as he is really trying to find his first major bipartisan legislative win hopefully, he thinks, in the coming months. Arlette, immigration such an important part thif conversation. They not get a bipartisan package and many consider Immigration A very important priority. Arlette saenz live at the White House, thank you. Arkansas has the third lowest Vaccination Rate in the country. 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What made it surreal was living in arkansas, where so many people, including some in her own family said covid was overblown. Nurses were really the symbol of this whole pandemic and almost all of the hate has centralized around us. Theres ptsd. A lot of us are suffering from it from last year and now were having people come in and look us in the face and be like, no, i didnt get the vaccine and now im sick. Reporter arkansas has the third lowest Covid19 Vaccine Rate in the country. Just 36 of the population is fully vaccinated. Like many places with low Vaccination Rates its now seeing a spike in cases. Are you going to get the vaccine . I have not, and i will not. Im not a guinea pig. Theres not a chance. You Got Covid . I did. Thats the reason i didnt get it. Then after covid, i had a heart attack. So why would you not get the vaccine . I see. Thats good. Thats better. I believe that its a freedom issue. And ive worn a mask probably one hour in the entire whole thing since this covid came about. If its so communicable, why am i still standing . Weve had people accuse us of giving their loved one something else so that they would die and we could report it as covid. We heard it more than once that we were just fudging the numbers or killing people on purpose to make covid look like it was worse than it was or make it look real when it wasnt. For the first majority of the pandemic we wore the same n95 for one to two weeks at a time. Tell me what you think about the Term Health Care heroes. I think it sucks. Why . They dubbed us Health Care heroes. It just gave the public this really wrong impression that we were sacrificial lambs and willing To Die For them. We want to help people. I want to save lives. I want people to get better, but not, you know, at the expense of my familys lives either. Then you have the public going, you signed up for this. No, i didnt. When i was 17, i enlisted in the army. When i was 22 and went to nursing school, that wasnt on the agenda. I didnt volunteer To Die For everybody. Even with the vaccine now, its still a highly politicized thing for no good reason. Last Year Sonny started venting on tiktok. Youre just trying to spread fear. If thats what it takes to get you to listen to me, sure. I had avoided posting about covid for a long time because of the negative reactions i got. Like it hurts my feelings. Just a couple of weeks ago i had people in my inboxes threatening to kill me, calling me a murderer. I get called a Crisis Actor all the time. Its my thing to respond to hate columns with for just 10 into my Venmo Account ill tell you about the truth in crisis acting. Ive made about 100 so far. Ier, people send you 10 . Im saying covid is real. Im telling you the truth, not the truth you wanted to hear. Sonny says dark jokes bring some relief from a darker reality like that her own health is at risk. Her fellow Nurse Hazel Bailey Got Covid last august and was on a ventilator for 42 days. Its real. Covid is real. I nearly died from it, and will probably have issues from it for the rest of my life. I have family that they believe that its real, but theyre not concerned with taking the vaccine. They understand some people get it and its not bad. But i got it, and it was bad. And now were seeing this new Variant Hit and its really hitting arkansas. Sorry. Sorry. My sister doesnt have the vaccine. Reporter sonny says that recently covid patients have been telling her they got it at church. This week arkansas had its biggest spike in cases since february and it has the worst Case Rate in the country. The state is offering vaccination incentives like free lottery tickets. It hasnt convinced many. Did anyone you know get covid . My son had covid. How old is he . 8. Thats pretty rare for a young kid. What was that like . He was sick a lot. Hes been sick a lot for a while and is still sick. Well have to have him get looked at and see if theres further damage. I dont know. He got real sick. Fever every day for weeks. Are you guys going to get the vaccine . No. No vaccine. How come . I just dont trust the government. Are you going to get the vaccine . Absolutely not. My kids are not going to get it. None of us. How come . I just let the world work its natural ways. Are you able to get religious exemption at school for your kids . Is that how no, i mean, we take the stuff if you have to. What do you mean when you say you dont usually get vaccines. We didnt do the any of the befores. Its something that i dont believe in. I havent ever, it seems it only comes about every presidency and it seems like its either Crowd Control or whatever you want to call it, but i want my family to have nothing to do with it. Weve always been healthy and just seems to work better that way. Not everyone around here feels this Way P. I think you need to get it because its not only helping you. It can help your whole family. Everybody around you. Its better to Take A Chance on the shot than Take A Chance on the covid. Cowboy up and go in there and get a shot and come out of there like a grownup. Come here. Come here. One of my biggest fears is this new wave of covid. A lot of nurses with compassion fatigue. Im really scared how thats going to play out because a lot of the cases are in nonvaccinated individuals. If i had a patient come in that wasnt vaccinated with covid like i have, obviously, im still going to treat them to the best of my ability, but i know some nurses that had to quit because they dont have it in them to do that. A lot of ours would give you the shirt off your back to help you out for a stranger. I think that a lot of people being anticovid and antivaccine is just a product of the way that we were raised here. But theyre not bad people. Coming up next covid vaccinations dividing the sports world. At least one Nfl Player says he might leave the league over the new rules about the vaccine. First, heres cnns Julia Chatterley with Covids Effect on the stock market. I can tell you investors are bracing for more volatility this week. The Delta Variant, Inflation Concerns and corporate earnings are grabbing the headlines and driving whiplash on wall street. Just this week you can add the federal reserve now to the mix, too. The Central Bank releasing its latest Policy Statement on wednesday. Last meeting the fed indicated Interest Rate hikes are coming in 2023, one year sooner than expected. Investors are looking for any change to that messaging and also want to know when the fed will begin rolling back its massive bond purchases. Also coming this week, one of the most eagerly awaited ipos of the year. Robinhood goes public on thursday. It translates into a Market Value of 35 billion. Robinhood hugely popular but also controversial. 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Some superstars like Deandre Hopkins who wrote, being put in a position to hurt my team because i dont want to partake in the vaccine is making my question my future in the nfl. Mike, you played eight years in the nfl, but youve also been around the game forever. Basically the nfl is saying that unvaccinated players could cost their team a win. You know in the nfl one loss could be a difference between going to the playoffs and not. How much pressure do you know is being exerted in the Locker Rooms from coaches and other players to get their fellow players to get the vaccine . I dont think theres any doubt theres going to be pressure to do that. Listen, we know what this is about. This is about money. The nfl, while they didnt have any cancellations last year, they normally make about 14 billion. They made 9 billion. All the games, there were no fans, so they lost a lot of money. While they still make a lot of money, theyre basically telling the unvaccinated, if youre going to cost us money, were going to cost you money. Understand one thing. Theyre the exact same protocols last year. The big thing to remember here is this is negotiated by the nfl and the union of what would go on last year before there was a vaccine if guys broke the protocol, if they went out tonigh to nightclubs or went out in public or exposed themselves to covid, they would have been fined. Now theyre saying, if you choose to theyre not mandating the vaccine, though it can be a bit of a strong arm for sure. Theyre saying if youre the reason your team has to forfeit, neither team is going to get a game check. Your team is going to get the loss and your team may have to pay some other money as well. I dont want to make it seem as if theres a Ground Swell of Nfl Players that say they dont want the vaccine, but there have been some prominent players being passionate about not wanting to get the vaccinate or just not wanting to talk about it. Are you surprised . Not at all. There has been animosity between players and league forever. Theres always been that animosity kind of like if the league says something that you have to do it, a lot of plaiyer are saying i dont want to do it. This is free choice. Im fully vaccinated. It was my choice. They have the choice to get vaccinated or not. But with choices come consequences. The nfl is a business that has now set some rules they want followed. You dont have to get vaccinated and it may not cost you anything. You may not test positive. You may not have a forfeit. It may be a moot point. It doesnt surprise me at all that some players are speaking out. But i will say this about a term i used to use on air a lot, that i dont think theres anyway on gods green earth that a player will retire over this. I heard Deoneandre Hopkins Twee that out and he took it down immediately. I dont think youre going to get a high Profile Player making a whole lot of money that is going to retire over this. I do not see that happens. From the Buffalo Bills Cole Beasley making a similar threat. Your team on the Cleveland Indians saying goodbye to their nickname and coming up with the new name of the cleveland guardians. Theyre saying theyre being respectful, a certain former president last night saying hes not buying it, former president trump. Do you think cleveland is making the right move here . Well, weve seen so many Sports Teams change their names. Were seeing the Washington Football Team do the same thing. My answer to this, im not this hot take guy. I grew up in cleveland. I grew up on the indians. That was my team. 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