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The situation room. We begin this hour with americas covid19 emergency. Cnn national correspondent Erika Hill is following all the new developments. The aggressive Delta Variant is now more dominant than ever and rapidly infecting people who are unvaccinated. What can you tell us . Reporter thats absolutely right. The numbers here dont lie, jim. In fact, some 22 , nearly 73 Million people in this country, 22 of the population, live in a county thats considered to have high transmission. What we know is the lower the Vaccination Rate in many areas, the more we are going to see some of these surges fueled by the Delta Variant. That is prompting new cause for concern, new calls for new americans to get vaccinated and also more concern that maybe some americans may never get the shot. Dreams of a covid free Summer Turning to a nightmare. The Delta Variant now represents 83 of sequenced cases. This is a dramatic increase up from 50 the week of july 3rd. In some parts of the country, the percentage is even higher, particularly in areas of low Vaccination Rates. Reporter efforts to get more shots in arms have hit a wall with just under half of the population now fully vaccinated. As a new poll finds the majority of those who havent yet had shots are unlikely to get one. Get into the unvaccinated fuelling new surges in cases, hospitalizations and deaths. We are trending in the wrong direction again. Reporter in the past two weeks, hospitalizations are up 50 . Hhs renewing the nations public Health Emergency this morning. My greatest fear is that patients continue to pour in and were unable to give them the care they need because we dont have staff or resources. Reporter nearly half of california residents are now under Mask Mandates or recommendation. In l. A. County alone, cases are up 700 in the last month. Weve got kids at home or you are immunocompromised and youre thinking, should i be more cautious . I would strongly consider that. This is not the time to let down our guard. Reporter while at least 9 states enacted legislation that prohibits local districts from requiring masks in schools, others have added mask requirements. At least 9 states banning public schools and universities from requiring proof of vaccination. Some because it doesnt have full fda approval. Asked about whether it should be required in schools like so many other vaccines, dr. Fauci said i would not be surprised that in the future this is something that would be seriously considered. Reporter a federal judge just ruled indiana University Cant require the vaccine for those returning to campus. Opponents about to appeal the decision. We have the tools to end this epidemic. It is up to use to utilize those tools to their maximum. Reporter a lot of parents of course want to use that tool, the vaccine, with their children who are under 12 years old. Asked about when that data could be available, dr. Fauci said the data is likely to be available for younger children some time in the late fall or early winter that. That is just the data. We can tell you according to the american academy of pediatrics, 23,000 new cases of children were reported in the last week. Thats nearly the double reported at The End of june for kids. Thanks so much for that. As the Delta Variant spreads, it is posing an urgent fight against covid19 as he marks six months in office. We go to our White House correspondent, phil mattingly. The president met just a short time ago with his cabinet, and the pandemic was one of the main topics. Reporter no question about it. Look, when the president came into office six months ago, there was one issue at the top of every list in terms of what he wanted to work on, achieve and put an end to, and that was the pandemic. There is no question there has been significant progress made. But as you noted, with the emergence of the Delta Variant, the president making very clear there is still a long road ahead. Today Urging Americans to be vigilant and also making clear vaccinations need to tick up. Take a listen. The safest thing to do is to get vaccinated. Get vaccinated. And thats why were focussing on our next phase, on getting youn the unvaccinated vaccinated. Were gradually making progress, but we have a way to go yet. Reporter rather cleareyed assessment from the president as the White House looks for ways to get more americans vaccinated, including those with no desire to or remain hesitant to pursue a vaccination. It is worth noting that the Delta Variant, particularly unvaccinated areas, it is leading to breakthrough cases including here in washington. Speaker Nancy Pelosi had a senior staffer who came down with a breakthrow ugh case. Both of those individuals only having mild symptoms up to this point, something White House officials point to as evidence of the efficacy of the vaccine. But still this is an urgent Issue And One that is now very much so at the front door of the white House And Capitol hill, jim. Im sure worrying officials inside the White House as well. Phil mattingly, thank you so much for that. President biden will face questions about the pandemic and much more during an exclusive live president Ial Town hall here on cnn. It airs tomorrow at 8 00 p. M. Eastern. Lets bring in the former Senior Adviser to the biden White House covid Response Team and the author of preventable. Also with us is cnn medical analyst, dr. Wen, an Emergency Physician and former baltimore city health commissioner. Andy, the Delta Variant is so worrisome right now and accounts for more than 80 of cases in the u. S. Thats staggering. Are you surprised at how quickly this variant has drastically changed the Countrys Progress in the fight against this pandemic . It feels like we are going backwards. Well, it does in some senses and in other senses it is very different in 2020. The big difference is we now have a tool. And for anybody who chooses to use the tool, for people over 12 that is, it offers a remarkable layer of protection. As we see in the data in israel and england, cases are rising now again from delta. Hospitalizations and deaths really are not. And that link is really important if it is indeed different in the u. S. So for people who are unvaccinated, this is a very serious year. And if you live around a lot of unvaccinated people, Thats Reason for real caution. But we have to continue to have the dialogue with people. President biden is continuing to have the conversation with people. The majority of people, twothirds of people who are not vaccinated believe a myth or a falsehood about the vaccine. So more conversations about why to get vaccinated and about the true information is going to continue to be important. Absolutely. And, doctor, were getting new information and learning the Delta Variant has been detected on Capitol Hill, prompting a recommendation to mask up. You say the biden administration needs to change its approach to this pandemic now that the Delta Variant has taken hold. What specific changes do you want to see . Are we going to see more masking in at least federal buildings around washington, do you think . I really hope so because, jim, we are at a very different point in the pandemic than we were a month ago. We now have three times the number of new infections compared to a month ago. We have the Delta Variant, which in people who are infected with it, they have about A Thousand times the amount of virus than they would if they got infected with the original variant. We dont know for those individuals, are they able to transmit the Delta Variant to others . And so as a result, use the abundance of caution approach. I hope the biden administration hits the Reset Button and says, we acknowledge we are at a very different point and therefore we should follow the example of l. A. County and say then if there are places where vaccinated and unvaccinated people are mixing, then indoor Mask Mandates should still apply. There are exceptions, two exceptions, in fact. One is if there is proof of Vaccination And Everybody is fully vaccinated, then you can take off your mask. Or if there is a high level of community Vaccination Rates, then indoor Mask Mandates dont need to be there. But i really think it is time for us to reinstate some of these masking mandates while in the meantime ideally aiming for proof of vaccinations so we can really boost our vaccination numbers. Yeah. It is frustrating to hear that. Andy, i want to turn to a tense moment We Saw on Capitol Hill earlier today when dr. Anthony fauci was pushing back on claims made by republican senator Rand Paul. Lets listen. Senator paul, i have never lied before the congress, and i do not retract that statement. And, senator paul, you do not know what you are talking about, quite frankly. And i want to say that officially. You do not know what you are talking about. Those viruses are molecularly impossible to result in sarcovid2. You are implying that what we did was responsible for the deaths of individuals. I totally resent that. It could have. It could have been. If anybody is lying here, senator, it is you. Andy, you have worked closely with dr. Fauci. I rarely ever see him or hear him get that animated or upset. What do you think about this he was showing during that exchange and these claims from Rand Paul that dr. Fauci somehow has been lying to the american people . Well, lets look at the contrast. Over the last 20 years, beginning with sars, Anthony Fauci has been working on creating the Mrna Platform which were two decades has been researched, investigated and has saved millions and millions of lives. On January 11st when the sequence of the virus was found, he brought it over to moderna and they began working on a sequence that day. Icon tras that with Rand Paul who is unvaccinated. He talks about being a physician, and he is. And he spouts things that just cast doubt and doesnt speak in fact. He speaks in implications. He plays to his audience. Im sure that raises him funds. But this isnt a typical political season. I think what dr. Fauci is trying to say, look, play politics in political seasons. This is a public health crisis, and you are crossing my turf. And my turf is the health of the american public, the safety of the vaccines and im glad he put Hit Foot down. All right. Thanks so much for those comments. We appreciate it as always. 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Tonight one of President Trumps closest allies and biggest fundraisers, billionaire Tom Barrett, is facing federal charges relating to alleged attempts to influence the 2016 Trump Campaign and administration on behalf of a foreign country, the Unite D Ar Rab Emirates and lying to cover it up. Barrett was arrested by the fbi earlier today in california. One of his employees was also arrested and charges. During a 2016 campaign, he and grimes acted as agents of the uae, tasked with influencing public opinion, the Foreign Policy positions of the campaign and the Foreign Policy positions of the u. S. Government as well as developing a back Channel Line of communication. Prosecutors say that influence could be seen in this line of a speech that trump gave in may 2016. Well work with our gulf allies to develop a positive energy relationship. Reporter prosecutor says that barrett failed to register as an agent of a foreign government as the law requires. Barrett was allegedly acting on behalf of the uae during media appearances. After trumps victory, barrett became the chairman of Trumps President ial inaugural committee. It was during this time prosecutors say he repeatedly took steps to assist the uae with the transition to the kmu administration. This continued into the trump administration. Between January 2017 and October 2017 when prosecutors say barrett acted to aid the uae in its dealing with the executive branch. That allegedly included agreeing to advocate for the appointment of individuals favored by the uae in the new u. S. Government administration. When the fbi interviewed him in 2019 about his activities in the uae, prosecutors alleged barrett knowingly made numerous materially false statements. A spokesman said he is not guilty and will be pleading not guilty. He is expected to appear in Federal Court later today. Lets get reaction from our senior analysts. You first. This indictment spells out how barrack took talking points from officials and gave them to trump. How serious are these allegations . Theyre very serious. You have seven counts, each which carries a penalty of up to five years in prison. I think it is a serious thing. I think also whats notable here is the oversight of this investigation and the times where this conduct took place was not under the biden administration. But when Donald Trump himself was president and his appointees were in place in u. S. Attorneys offices and at the department of justices attorney general. That will be important as people argue inevidently about whether this is political or not political. It doesnt have to be as detailed as it was and it says a lot of things. And if the allegations can be proven, shows that again and again and again Tom Barrack did things at the behest of the uae, including as We Saw in the report inserting language into a Speech Being delivered by Donald Trump as he campaigned. And then finally you have these charges with respect to Obstruction Of Justice and making materially false statements to the fbi. Often people say the kcoverup s worse than the crime. It shows he understood and had a belief that what he was doing was work. He lied about whether or not he was being directed by uae officials. He lied about whether he had an encrypted phone to message them and he lied about whether he facilitated contact with the White House. Its quite bad for him. Prosecutors say he is a substantial Flight Risk. Considering the other allegations involving Trump World, should the former president be worried about Barrack Flipping and cooperating with authorities, do you think . Only if it relates something that he personally knew. This is a lot of people in the same orbit. Michael flynn and Paul Manafort had their failure to register or lies on their application and documentation. So you have got this orbit. You have this circling around President Trump but no connection directly as far as we yet know about this issue. But i want to underscore, you go back to the underlying reason we have this law in the first place. This entire premise, although it has not been admittedly enforced in terms of criminal prosecutions very often over the course of, say, 50 years, it still is a lot to try to insulate institutions from having corrupt or otherwise foreign influence, having transparency here. So this is something that even in recent times we know has been prosecuted. So the Willfulness Aspect of it. It may not be prosecuted is no excuse for not following and abiding by this particular law. So if there were statements made and a failure to register, remember, it is not a very onerous proceeding. It is a couple hundred dollars for filing on this very issue. So why would you want to conceal it if thats the allegation here . Why not have the transparency . Thats why you have other additional allegations included here about covering up what you may have known willfully to be a violation of the law and the underlying premise of this law. Very, very true. It sounds like a very serious case and that prosecutors have been very busy in Trump World over the last several years. Thank you so much for those insights. Coming up billionaire Jeff Bezos is speaking to cnn fresh off his flight to the outer edge of space. Stay with us. You are in the situation room. Learn more at phoenix. Edu. Security at your fingertips. Control feels good. Chase. Make more of whats yours. [footsteps] so, are you gonna buy the car . Please if i could just go home, and discuss things with my wife ive been here all weekend. You can leave anytime you want. No ahhh never go to a dealership again. Well, that was painless. Go to vroom. Com, buy a car and well deliver it straight to you. Im searching for info on options trading, and look, it feels like im just wasting time. 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Also on beyond a reasonable doubt, bezos brother park, pilot wally funk. At 82 the oldest person ever to go Into Space. And the youngest. 18yearold paying passengers ol oliver. Taking in the breathtaking views. We see this giant atmosphere that we live in. We think its big. You get up there and its so tiny. It is a small little thing. And it is fragile. Reporter touchdown in texas after a little more than a tenminute flight. And the Booster Landing Upright here on the landing pad. Blue origins saying reusable components like this are critical to driving down the Cost And Accessibility of Space Travel. And it all comes nine days after Richard Branson blasted off in his Virgin Galactic spacecraft, too. Advancing the era of billionaire funded Space Flight. Branson reached 53 miles above the effort. Bezos soaring higher, often referred to as the altitude at which space begins. Today is the first step for Blue Origin, which foresees a world in which millions of people are living and working in space. What we need to do is build a road to space so that future generations can take all Heavy Industry and polluting industry on earth and move it up Into Space so that we can keep this gem of a planet as it is instead of ruining it. Reporter Passenger Tickets for future Blue Origin flights are on sale for a select few. The Price Tag not yet revealed. But bezos says he will be flying again. Hell yes. How fast can you refuel that thing . Lets go reporter but, jim, bezos wont be the only one flying on blue shepherd. Two more flights planned for 2021. Something tells me they will sell a lot of tickets. Thank you so much for that. I want to bring in richard quest. The first woman of color to travel Into Space. Shes the author of flying where the wind goes moments from my life. Doctor to, let me start with you first. What a day for Space Travel. This was fascinating to watch. What went through your Mind Today watching this historic flight which really included some firsts. So i was very excited. It was a remarkable launch. It was some remarkable engineering thats put a lot of work in. Having wally Funk Fly was sort of an omage to the women who were ready to fly, ready to be trained as astronauts back in the 1960s when i was a little girl. So that is really an important step. And when i think about it, what i want to do is to put this all in context, which we can talk about a little later, but the context of Space Exploration because it is something that has been happening for a long time. We think of space right now when we have people going up in vehicles. But Space Exploration has been a part of human history. I always like to connect it back to who we are. Richard, what does Todays Flight Mean for the future of private Space Exploration . I assume, richard, you are already plotting out your path into the stars. Oh, absolutely. Waiting for the corporate amex to be used on that one and see what the boss has to say. I think the reality is it is a roadway to space. And in their various ways, these billionaires are being patrons, if you like, of exploration. Pretty much as We Saw in the 15th, 16th and 17th century. So you have Elon Musk pushing forward with the way hes heading. Collectively, you cant see it as an individual bit. You have to put it collectively. But what they are doing is laying the Ground Work for future involvement of space across a range of issues. Now, the fact they choose to use their egos and go up themselves is a different matter. The fact is they are the patrons of exploration Into Space in the 21st century. And the on space tourism, what do you see as the potential for innovation here. Yeah. Is this a Rocket Boost or an Ego Boost . So im going to have to agree with richard a little bit. The patrons of Space Exploration have been the taxpayers and the government that laid the foundation for the road thats already being built. So i see this as a continuation of the road. When you looked at this mission, didnt it feel very nasaesque to you, right . Because so much of the style and the logistics, even the engineers have come from that pedigree. And, so, i think its really important for us to understand that Space Exploration is for all of us. When i look to the future, i look to one where we have True Dmomization which isnt whether you can buy tickets but whether your talent and capabilities and your skills are put to best use, whether it is as a passenger, whether it is applied to life down here on earth. What do you think about that, richard . The good doctor i would never disagree with up to a point. But what im saying is as we go into the 21st century, these are the men and women are very large and deep pockets who are picking up where the taxpayer has left off to an extent, leaving the taxpayers some would say nontaxpayer, richard. Thats another discussion for another day. Leaving the taxpayer to pay for the really big expensive stuff, mars and all those robots. Listen, we can agree on one thing. I think probably all three of us have got an amazon prime account of some shape or form. The three of us paid for today. I think thats right, yes. Well have to leave it there with the amazon Prime Plug from richard quest. Thats what they need to plug. Thanks so much to both of you. Tonight Anderson Cooper has a Brandnew Interview with Richard Bezos about his quest. Be sure to watch the full interview on Ac 360 at 8 00 p. M. Eastern. Just ahead, a horrifying scene from january th. A former special Forces Officer attacking three Police Officers. 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Just a few seconds into this video, after one rioter swings at an american flag pole, a female officer is assaulted hand to hand. Her grimaces of pain clearly audible. Four new Video Clips of the assault on the capitol on January 6th released today by the justice department. The man that officials say is assaulting police in all of them, jeffrey mckeller, a retired u. S. Special Forces Officer. Hes wearing a helmet, gas mask, a kevlar vest with a patch that looks like the country of georgia. He launches at an officer, Pepper Spray and launches into the crowd. In this video, the female officer who he attacked is seen grabbing her face in pain, being helped by other officers. In this clip, watch the officer in white. Officials say this is mckeller hitting a d. C. Police captain in the head with a flag pole. The captain was cut near his left eye. These battles took place in the Inauguration Staging Area outside the capitol, the scene of some of the most violent combat that day and where the Police Line eventually collapsed. The man who officials say attacked the officers so viciously served in the army for 23 year, spending time in the Special Forces and was deployed twice to afghanistan, twice to iraq, according to the pentagon. Federal judges ordered him to stay in jail while his Court Case progresses. He is charged with 12 federal crimes, including felonies for attacking police. He has pleaded not guilty. Very disturbing video. All right. Brian todd, thank you so much for that report. Lets turn to the partisan wrangling. Nancy pelosi says shes considering whether to accept or veto republicans to serve on the panel including trump defenders in defnial about congressional hopes. Were Hearing Gop picks. What are they saying . Jim, we focussed a lot on how the democrats will approach this select committee, but were starting to get an understood case into how republicans will conduct themselves on this committee and specifically how they may try and draw the decisions made by the house Speaker Nancy Pelosi on that day into this conversation. Listen to what Jim Jordan told me earlier today. Look, we know what this is about. This is about the democrats attacking the president again, President Trump again like they have done for five years. So we now what it is about. There is one fundamental question that i hope the democrats answer and address. Why wasnt there a proper Security Presence that day . Frankly, only the speaker can answer that question. Lets see if the democrats bring that up and focus on it. It will be interesting to see if democrats bring it up, but jordan is not 100 accurate when he says the speakers decision. It actually comes from the speakers police board. But it shows you the thinking republicans have as they are already starting this bickers before they have had this meeting. At the White House, there is humor about people questioning President Biden Election Victory when Tom Brady and his team were visiting. Not a lot of people, you know, think that we could have won. And, in fact, i think 40 of the people still dont think we won. I understand that. You understand that, mr. President. I understand that. Yeah. Sounds like they can relate. Ryan, thats clearly a reference to the people trying to cast doubt on the election. Tom brady not known for his comedic timing really pulls one off here. This will hurt the president. Tom brady once pictured in front of a locker with a Make America great again hat and stayed out of the election. So hes Poking Fun at the big lie, laughing about it knowing it is not serious, despite the fact that trump itself continues to carry on as if it is something thats going to change the outcome of the election, which we know is not going to happen. Jim . Yeah. That has to stay up at bed min ter. Thank you so much. Three days before the olympic, an official in Tokyo Isnt ruling out canceling the games. Dr. Sanjay gupta is joining us live from japan. Ah, theres no place like panera. Enjoy the toasty, saucy Chipotle Chicken Avocado melt on freshly baked bread. Panera. Order on the app today. [narrator] at southern new Hampshire University, were committed to making college more accessible by making it more affordable. Thats why were keeping our tuition the same for all online and campus programs through the year 2022. I knew snhu was the place for me when i saw how affordable it was, i ran to my husband with my computer and i said, look, we can do this. [narrator] take advantage of some of the lowest online Tuition Rates in the nation. Find your degree at snhu. Edu. Tonight there is great Uncertainty Hanging over the Summer Olympics as covid19 cases spread. Dr. Sanjay gupta joins us Live From Tokyo where the olympics are set to begin friday. Sanjay, the ceo of tokyo 2020 is not ruling out a Lastminute Cancellation of the games. That is just unbelievable to hear. Stunning, but to public health officials maybe not that surprising. I mean, look, well look back historically at some point, jim. But you have an olympics games bringing in people from all over The World in the middle of a pandemic into a country where only 12 of the country is vaccinated and the numbers have been rising as you know. So there has been a lot of concern, jim. You know, not surprisingly, 80 of people who were polled here in japan said that they would prefer that the olympics not happen here at this time for those reasons. Well see. Competition actually begins wednesday morning, your time later on tonight here. The opening ceremonies at The End of the week. Well see what happens. We havent been told any specific criteria that would sort of force the decision one way tested posipositive, people thae somehow associated with these games. Sanjay, many of the covid cases are reporting no symptoms. What does that tell you . I think this is going to be a really interesting Point And Something that we may all learn from as a world. These socalled Breakthrough Infections. You keep in mind that we know in the united states, for example, if youre vaccinated, people really arent getting tested so it been a little bit of a Black Box in terms of how many of these people have Breakthrough Infections. The good news has been and remains theyre really not getting that sick, certainly not sick enough they would require hospitalization but the Breakthrough Infection Rate may be much higher than we previously realized. Were hearing within the states about some of those cases. What does this really tell us is that testing is going to be key. Testing is going to be very important because some of these people even if vaccinated and not required that theyre vaccinated in the Olympic Village but if theyre vaccinated and have a Breakthrough Infection with this Delta Variant, they could be carrying a much higher viral load up to 1,000 times higher so they could potentially then spread it to unvaccinated populations. Thats the concern. Thats what theyre trying to avoid. Sanjay, what is stopping this from becoming a Superspreader Event . I hate to even think that could happen. Yeah, i mean, i do, too, jim. Typically, when you think of Superspreader Events, you think of clustered indoor gatherings where people are unvaccinated, not wearing masks. Roughly this time last year. But i think there is a possibility that this becomes something that spreads beyond the borders of the village but they are doing a lot of testing, jim. That makes a difference. This are masks, you know, that are being employed, mostly. The Bubble Isnt perfect but keeping people somewhat separated from the general population. All right. Well hope for the best. Dr. Sanjay, gupta, thanks. Anderson cooper will join us next to discuss his new interview with Jeff Bezos after his historic flight. You need only the freshest milk and cream. That one and The Worlds best, and possibly only, schmelier. Philadelphia. Schmear perfection. Not all 5g Networks are created equal. Tmobile americas largest, fastest, most reliable 5g network. When technology is easier to use. Barriers dont stand a chance. Thats why well stop at nothing to deliver our technology asaservice. People everywhere living with Type 2 Diabetes are waking up to whats possible to deliver our technology asaservice. With rybelsus®. 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We should protect this one and the way you do that is by pushing all of our Heavy Industry out of space and we can do that if we can operate space vehicles the same way we operate commercial airliners today. So thats what Blue Origin is about and the Tourism Mission is about. The Tourism Mission lets us practice over and over and over so we get good at it and the program is an Orbit Vehicle that uses learnings to take the next steps and build the road to space. Lets bring in cnns Anderson Cooper from texas. Anderson, you had an indepth conversation with Jeff Bezos that will air tonight on Ac 360. What was that conversation like . Did he seem different after going up Into Space . Reporter yeah, you know, what you just saw was really very shortly after he had landed with his brother and the others. We talked to him several hours later inside the Training Capsule which is identical to the capsule that they actually were in the Suboribital Launch and we want to go to what the road looks like and infrastructure he keeps talking about hes hoping to build and be part of the building of spacex is obviously doing similar things. He believes there needs to be a lot more companies for, you know, generations to come that are going to be innovating new ideas for space but without the infrastructure, the same kind of infrastructure he was able to use, the postal service, fedex, paypal to build amazon on. He wants for future generations to build an infrastructure they can use to innovate Into Space. Anderson, you were there to witness this firsthand. What was it like . I guess it was really loud . [ laughter ] reporter yeah, well youre right about that. Were like three miles away. The actual Launch Pad is about three miles away, but once this thing, the rocket takes off, i mean, the power of it is just so immense you really feel like its right over your shoulder and i mean, its surreal to, you know, were always watching things on monitors when were covering these events. You turn around and see the rocket going up, you know, getting up to more than 2,000 miles per hour. So its extraordinary to witness it and then, obviously, for them just the technology of landing the Rocket Booster back vertically was a huge accomplishment. Fascinating to watch. Anderson cooper, well see you later on tonight an Ac 360 and watch the interview with Jeff Bezos and his Brother Mark about the Space Flight that Area Tonight at 8 00 eastern. Im jim acosta. Thanks for watching. Erin burnett is outfront right now. Out front next Breaking News a top Trump Ally charged with acting as a foreign agent. 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