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What took so long . Lets go outfront. Good evening, everyone. Im Kate Bolduan in for erin burnett. Spooked by covid. The Dow Tumbling 700 points with fears the Delta Variant pushing the country in the wrong direction. Covid cases are up 145 . Hospitalizations are up 50 . Deaths are up 12 . And those who are most at risk are the ones who are failing to protect themselves and others with the simple vaccination. According to officials, more than 97 of people hospitalized with covid are unvaccinated. 99. 5 of deaths right now are among the unvaccinated. Dr. Anthony fauci telling me today if more americans dont get the shot, things will not get better. Quite the opposite. If we dont get a significant proportion of these people vaccinated, youre going to be seeing a smoldering of this outbreak in our country for a considerable period of time. And California Tonight is one example of that smoldering outbreak. The state reporting the highest Covid Positivity Rate since the winter surge. The States Rate Sigh rocketing 500 since last month. Im doing to speak to l. A. Countys Health Director as they reinstated the Mask Mandate. The reason behind the Jaw Dropping Numbers across the board which were seeing in the middle of the summer thats supposed to be the summer where things get back to normal in a real way comes down to the Delta Variant. Most people will either get vaccinated or have been previously infected or will get this Delta Variant and for most people that get the Delta Variant, it will be the most serious virus they get in their lifetime in terms of the risk of putting them in the hospital. The most serious virus they get in their lifetime but 56 of americans are even partially vaccinated right now. Canada, which began mass vaccinations months after the quite has 71. 5 of It Citizens at least partially vaccinated but in the united states, there is a political divide and its killing americans. You see it when you look at the two states in this country with the lowest vaccination levels. Alabama, 34 of residents are fully vaccinated. Only 37 of the vote in that state went to Joe Biden. Mississippi 33 of residents are fully vaccinated and you can see 41 of the vote there went to biden. There is no question that it is political, and American Politics and it is American Politics that is killing the american people right now. Jeff zeleny is outfront tonight in cincinnati, ohio where President Biden will join cnn for a Town Hall on Wednesday Night. This is a tale of Two Americas now and that is clearly on display where you are tonight. Reporter kate, youre right. Here in ohio there is a stark divide between those who have been vaccinated, not been and those who simply say they will not be but President Biden began sounding the economic alarm, the question is Anybody Listening . If youre unvaccinated, you are not protected. So please, please get vaccinated. Get vaccinated now. Reporter an urgent plea from President Biden imploring americans to shed their doubts about vaccinations with covid19 cases sharply on the rise. The only way we put it behind us is more americans get vaccinated. Reporter Barbara Lynch agree with the president. But they have a blunt Reality Check for him. I dont think theyre listening to the politicians. Reporter they have spent months trying to chip away at Vaccine Hesitancy through the group First Ladies for health that does out reach to communities of color and faith. Weve come up against a Brick Wall and trying to figure out what we can do to induce people to get the vaccine. I have a grandson that is not taking the vaccine, and weve preached to him about it, but hes not taking the vaccine. Reporter your own grandson. My own grandson. He believes the stuff on the internet. Reporter tonight the Delta Variant is rattling the nerves from the White House to Wall Street with the Dow Tumbling 720 points, the worst decline in a year. Two americas, the vaccinated and unvaccinated are coming into sharper focus here in ohio and across the country. Ohio is fully vaccinated 45. 9 of the population below the u. S. Rate of 46. 6 . Cincinnati is slightly higher at 49 . Now were in this stage where the supply is very high and the demand is very low. Reporter the long lines at vaccination centers in the Winter And Spring have slowed to a summertime trickle. She is Health Care Commissioner where interest in vaccines has dramatically levelled off despite lotteries, Celebrity Endorsements and more. I dont think any incentives will push them to do it. Reporter the Delta Variant highlighted a new divide in america rooted in far more than politics. Bill sterns a lawyer got his shooterly but knows plenty of people who havent. The primary reason im hearing is that its untested and they dont want to have anything like that in their bodies that they dont control. Reporter in cincinnati, 23yearold Marquis Hues told us he will not get the vaccination. Despite pleas from his grandparents and others. I just dont feel like it safe. Cant no one convince me. Reporter who told you it wasnt safe . Myself. My research. Reporter so certainly, young people are at the center of a lot of this Vaccine Hesitancy. Simply will not get the vaccine regardless of what adults are saying. It turns out Lottery Projects like win a 1 Million if you get a shot backfired on young people. They say it simply raised their skepticism. There is no question the unvaccinated certainly is a new pandemic for them, but soon, it could be felt by people on both sides of this divide. Kate . Jeff, thank you so much from ohio for us tonight. Out dpfront with me now J Kasich and barbara with the department of public health. Her office reinstituted just this weekend the indoor mask require ment in l. A. County. Governor, is there anything after seeing jeff did a great report from your home state. Do you think there is anything that President Biden can do at this point to really address this division or as republican Senator Bill Cassidy put it, the President Shouldnt be advocating for vaccines because there is simply too much mistrust of him by those who arent vaccinated. Look, ive spent a lot of time. Ive talked to dr. Andy thomas at Ohio State and Clay Marsh at west virginia. Let me give you numbers. People over the age of 65 in ohio, 80 of them have been vaccinated. People over 60, 70 . But when you look at young people, you know, those in their 20s and 30s, you know, theyre not taking this seriously. You just heard this report. When you think about when you think about people of color, particular africanamericans, theyre skeptical about the Health Care System because they believe for good reason they were mistreated and you think of the project. Rural people, access, the Side Effects, things that could be contained in the Vaccine And Distrust in science and government. If you want to get the folks vaccinated, its got to be with their friends and their neighbors and their families but i know of a young man that took forever for him to get his vaccination and i know some people that dont have it today who are not young. They just they dont trust it. They say it hasnt been fully approved and for young people, theyre like ah, if i get it, i get it. Ill be fine. So we want to look at this with clear eyes, the Minority Community has to be family to family, neighbor to neighbor, churches, associations with the young people, you know, we just got to keep talking to them about it and its about their grandparents and not getting their grandparents sick and with rural voters, rural people, rural residents historically have never bought into all the vaccines. They have lower rates across the board. So and in the rural areas its got to be neighbor to neighbor. Organizations like the churches, thats how you get these up. The politicians just talking to them and yelling at them and all that isnt very effective. Its not done much to this point. Thats for sure. But look no further than l. A. County where youre seeing a resurgence. Director, your county seen a 500 jump in Covid Cases in the last month. What are you seeing now . Are you most concerned about going forward . Yeah, thank you so much, kate, for having us on today. You know, the biggest issue is i think as the governor rightfully said, we have a lot of people still to be vaccinated. We have a 70 of l. A. County residents with at least one dose and we have 61 fully vaccinated of people 16 and older. But its not enough because in l. A. County that means weve got 4 Million people not yet vaccinated including 1. 3 million children under the age of 12. The way to protect those children that cant yet get vaccinated is to obviously increase the Vaccination Numbers among the people that have yet to come in and get vaccinated, but while theyre doing that, while were working to build trust to build confidence in the vaccine, to answer what really for many people are reasonable set of questions to work on making sure that there are trusted providers, trusted leaders, neighbor to neighbor, i love what the governor said about that. While were working to make sure were doing everything we can to get good information to people to make a decision they feel comfortable about in terms of getting vaccinated, weve got to protect Each Other still and thats why here in l. A. County were asking people when youre indoors, please go ahead and put your mask back on. Governor, canada started mass vaccinating citizens later than the quunited states but now theyre beating the united states. I asked dr. Fauci about this today. I want to play what he told me. Canada is doing better not because were trying any less than they are trying. Its because in canada, you dont have that decisiveness of people not wanting to get vaccinated in many respects on the basis of ideology and political persuasion. And Thats Something that we have been saying for sometime now. Look, i hear what the doctor is saying, and im struck by i dont buy it. You dont buy it. I dont buy it. Hes saying the political divide how can you desp disp it people 65 and older, 80 of ohio are vaccinated. People 60, 70 are vaccinated. The problem is with the Minority Community, the distrust of Health Care and also in the rural areas and the rural areas, they happen to be republican but theyve always been skeptical about look, they cant get access and theyre skeptical about a number of things and when you live in a rural Area And Somebody from the government shows up at your door, youre like youre an indiana girl. You understand this. So yeah, it would be great if trump came out and said get a vaccination . Absolutely it would be great if he did that but i think to try to say this is political, we need to go deeper than that and for the public health officials, they need to think that way. Its neighbor to neighbor just like the doctor said. Neighbor to neighbor, associations that are trusted and family members. Thats how it has to work. Ill give you this. Youre totally right. If its political or not, it doesnt matter because saying its politics thats dividing folks isnt going to get people closer to getting a shot. I 100 agree with that because the net result is the same, people are just going to distrust it more. Director, the sheriff of l. A. County, he said this weekend hes not going to enforce this new Mask Requirement and he said in part its because they dont he doesnt have enough resources to do so on his staff. But he also went directly at you, which was surprising. Im going to play for everyone what he said. The person that issued this is not a medical professional. The director of the department of public health. Shes not a doctor nor epidemiologist. These are not guidelines consistent with the Cdc Number two. I was surprised that how personal he kind of made it, director. How do you what is going on here . How did you respond to this . Yeah, im not sure what is going on with the sheriff. I do want to say that there is a little grand standing because the sheriff has never enforced the Mask Mandate here in l. A. County. We have our own team of environmental Health Insmoke Detector inspectors and out reach workers that go around and provide everyone with good Information And Work with our businesses and work sites to make sure that they understand what the directives are and why theyre important and then we help make sure that there is compliance. So im not really sure what that is directed at and i would say its probably not worth focussing on, either. There is important work in front of us. We do need to get back to slowing transmission here in l. A. County. We want our Recovery Journey to continue. We want to stay open with all of our businesses thriving and the way to do that right now is to make sure that everybody is masking up when theyre indoors and that more and more people feel confident and come in and get that vaccine. Doctor, thank you for your time governor kate, that was a cheap shot on the doctor and finally, kate, its important Social Media is responsible and not promote these crazy Conspiracy Theories out there. Another point. But thank you for having us on kate. Youre the best. A big discussion well have another time. Good to see you, thank you. Thank you. And President Biden will join my colleague Don Lemon this Wednesday Night at 8 00 p. M. Eastern. 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Breaking news, the top republican in the House Kevin Mccarthy is announcing five republicans he is naming to the January 6th select committee. Manu raju is outfront with more on this. Who is on Mccarthys List . Reporter some of the staunchest defenders of the president Donald Trump. These came after weeks in which the republican leader had not named anyone to serve on this committee. This despite eight democrats being selected. Eight members selected by Nancy Pelosi and seven are democrats, one republican Liz Cheney but five republicans appointed now by the republican leader that Inl Cloud includes congressman Jim Banks. He will be leading it, the ranking republican on the gop side. Rodney davis of illinois and Kelly Armstrong of North Dakota and texas. Two of those members voted to certify the January 6th election that includes Kelly Armstrong as well as rodney davis. The other three voted to overturn the electoral results and two of those members, Jim Jordan and Jim Banks signed onto the Texas Lawsuit that would have invalidated millions of the votes across several Battle Ground states but in talking to the members now, talked to some of them as they came down, one of them Jim Jordan, i asked what do republicans want to establish on this committee . He said this committee is used to attack Donald Trump. When i asked what republicans want to do. This is setting up for a very partisan clash, democrats say they want to investigate everything and including the former president s actions and the republicans are at least one of them on the panel is making clear he views this as an effort to go after Donald Trump and you can bet he will defend the president s actions. Well wait to hear what the others say but next week, kate, the first hearing before this select committee will take place and that will be the testimony from Capitol Police officers about their experiences before they decide to investigate other matters including the former president s actions. Manu, going in before they hear anything or see anything, even though they lived through it and should know better, these republicans are already going in and saying that this whole thing is just about taking down Donald Trump. So they clearly feel that their entire job then is to defend Donald Trump and thus defend the insurrectionists . I maybe, thats what this committee is already setting up for . Reporter well, thats what Jim Jordan made very clear to me just 340emoments ago and been sg that from the Beginning And Part of the effort to overturn the electoral results on January 6th. He did vote twice to do that and hes been a staunch defender of Donald Trump from the beginning and others on this committee, as well. One of the things to watch out for, too, kate is how republicans have been signaling they want to go after Nancy Pelosi, what she did or did not do to secure the capitol that day. Wants that to be the focus of the republican side, as well in the weeks to come. So youre seeing how this is going to play out. Republicans of course blocked an outside commission from investigative going forward and contended that will be filled with partisan politics but this select committee will devolve into a partisan fight. Thats where things are headed at the moment, or some republicans are suggesting theyre viewing now, kate. Speaker pelosi has veto power. Is she going to use this here . That is unclear at the moment they say theyre reviewing what the speaker, what the leader has come up with. The republican leader pelosi does according to the rules can say essentially no, she will not allow these members to go forward but if she were to do that undoubtedly that would create outrage among republicans. Its unclear if she would take a stab as rare to reject member from the other side on a select committee. This is a typical process that is done here but she does have that power, some democrats believe she should use it and its unclear what the speaker herself will do. Manu, thanks so much. Great reporting, as always. Eight months in federal prison is the first Felony Sentence for a January 6th rioter. 38yearold Paul Hog kins traveled to the capitol from florida that day carrying a Trump Flag all the way into the senate chamber. Prosecutors had asked for a harder sentence of 18 months in prison so people who might be contemplating a sequel to January 6th will stand down and there wont be a next time. Outfront now cnn senior legal analyst and former federal prosecutor. Ellie, what do you think of this sentence . Kate, i think its light. I think its within the range of reasonable outcomes but i think its light. As you noted, prosecutors asked for a year and a half here, 18 months. Prosecutors dont always get what we want but the judge gave less than half. Ive seen many, many people commit less serious crimes than this and do significantly more time than eight months. And one of the key concepts and purposes of sentencing is Detour Rans sending a message to this defendant and other defendants this conduct is serious and if youre thinking about it, you better not because the law will come down on you. I dont think an eighth Month Sentence meets that goal. Youve been asking why the department has not charged any of the rioters with sedition. Do you think what you see happening and playing out and beyond, is that still coming and what does today mean for the most violent of those people charged who have attacked officers . So, it means the people that committed acts of violence unlike this Defendant Today are almost certainly going to do jail time and significant jail time and more than eight months. Ou are Sedition Charges coming . I dont think so. I think the doj made a mistake but not charging sedition. Todays charges are a perfect example. They were charged with obstruction of congress. One of the definitions of the crime of sedition is interfering or obstructing with the government. That would be counting of the electoral ballots. They made a strong statement about just how serious the January 6th crimes were and i think by charging only the L Lel lesser crimes, the doj is sending the wrong message about what happened January 6th. Thank you very much. Outfront for us next, biden retreats. Hes forced to explain what he says he really meant about Facebook Quote killing people. And worries about the economy are creeping up on biden. How can he remain optimistic with dangerous signs all around . 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And so is walgreens. Schedule yours today. Tonight President Bidenerer sustained facebook backtracking on the Criticism Facebook is killing people by allowing Covid Misinformation to spread on it platform. Facebook isnt killing people. These 12 people are out there giving misinformation. Anyone listening to it is getting hurt by it. Its killing people. My hope is that facebook instead of taking it personally somehow im saying facebook is killing people, that they would do something about the mis misinf misinformation. So biden was referring to a report stating 12 people account for 65 of the anti Vaccine Misinformation on facebook, and the walk back coming after the Tech Giant blasted the White House with an unnamed Facebook Official telling cnn quote, the White House is looking for Scrape Goats for missing their vaccine goals. Outfront Now Paul and Senior Advisor to mitch Mcconnell And Assistant to george w. Bush. Paul, what do you think of this . Is this biden admitting he went too far on friday . Biden just trying to move on . I hope he doesnt think he went too far. You know, a lot of his personality is to try to calm the waters and that was a very unbiden like in that sense. I understand in terms of temperament he wants to walk that back but this is based on our Surgeon Generals report that came out on friday and he concludes in my words, facebook is hazardous to your health in the same way 1962 the Surgeon General said Air Pollution is bad and in 1964 the Surgeon General said Cigarette Smoking is. Facebook is damaging your health. Because of this misinformation the president talked about. There is a phenomenon that is really important to understand called ed alga rhythm. They add fuel. They add jet fuel. They add to the negative, decisive and dishonest because they make more money off of that. Thats what the Surgeon Generals report speaks to. Terrific report. Thats the problem. Facebook is force feeding this misinformation to people and they got to stop. So then, scott, you dont Think Biden should have gotten involved in this in the first place. After hearing what paul is saying, why . Look, i am in louisville, Kentucky Tonight Kate And Paul and good so see you both and im thinking about the great supreme Court Justice from louisville that said the greatest dangerous to liberty by a man of zeal well meaning but without understanding and who does that describe in American Life now . Well meaning but without Understanding And Someone of zeal . Its Joe Biden who frequently goes out and says things of a hype hyper boll lick nature. He says they are killing people. Now he says they arent. Was It Misinformation . I took the vaccine. I studied the data. I think they work. I think everyone should get it and at the same time, if you want the White House getting involved in censoring Free Speech, ask yourself this, would you have the same position if Donald Trump or some republican were the president . I bet you would not. This is a dangerous slippery Slope And Biden ought to stay out of it. Paul, does scott have a point here . Great point. Its just not applicable to this issue. Nobody is saying the government should sensor. They should never sensor americans. Our friend jen said it. Justice brandeis said sunlight is the best disin disinfectant. What did they obtain in may an internal facebook document. This is what facebook says about their algorithm and how they make money off hate. Facebooks memo says our algorithm exploit the human Brains Attraction to decisiveness and left on check it will feed users more and more divisive content to gain User Attention and increase time on the platform. Facebook makes more money if they can divide us against Each Other and feed misinformation, they make more money still. They got to stop. Thats what i hope our President And Everyone will start talking about. Scott, im not going to quote Justice Brandeis because i couldnt think of one off the top of my head but no matter what words biden uses, this is a real problem. Millions of people get their news that they seem to trust from facebook and the misinformation and straight up lies about vaccines, it is perv pervasive. Speak to people where they get the information and why they decided they dont want to get the vaccine, a lot is from facebook. If something has got to give then, what should it be . Look, i think at some point you have to acknowledge the fact that people are going to do what theyre going to do. We all have access to information. Yes, i agree there is misinformation about the vaccine. As i said, i believe in it. I took it. My family took it. I hope other people do, especially people in my party, the republican party but we have to recognize there will be a cohort of americans that simply arent going to do it and there are people that dont wear sbemsb helmets when they ride motorcycles yeah, but if you dont wear your seat belt, it doesnt kill me and my kid. It kills you. Different. There is never going to be a moment when you have 100 of people doing anything this country, even if its the right thing to do and we all three agree it a smart thing to do and to me, it is vastly more important to protect the under pinnings of Free Speech. We have a recent history of calling Things Misinformation on this topic that turned out not to be misinformation such as the origins of where covid came from in the first place. I think it would be dramatically bad thing for american could tour if we go down this road of letting a white House Pressure private companies into censorship. Im just telling you, you dont want the Government Meddling in Free Speech on this or any other topic. I totally agree, scott, but dont you think this is what dr. Murphy is suggesting . They say they are. Why dont they promote the positive stuff instead of promoting the dishon Fest Stuff . Guys, good to see you. Glad we solved this here. Thanks. Outfront next, want signs about the economy. How worried should President Biden be . Jon meacham is my guest. The number of Covid Cases linked to the tokeyo olympics i going up. Another u. S. Athlete forced out of the games. Dr. Son Anjay Gupta is live. Whe, he needed his insurance to get it done right, right away. Usaa. What youre made of, were made for. Usaa like many people with moderate to severe Ulcerative Colitis or crohns disease, i was there. Be right back. But my symptoms were keeping me from where i needed to be. So i talked to my doctor and learned humira is the 1 prescribed biologic for people with uc or crohns disease. 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Outfront now jon meacham, the historian that has advised several u. S. President s including President Biden and the host of the hope through history podcast, which is now in the second season. Its good to see you, john. The Dow Today closed 700 points, the biggest drop since october but Biden In Speech was painting a picture of dont be afraid, do not worry but the fear is real right now. Look no further than the markets. How big of an issue could this be for biden . Historically, president s are judged on economic performance. You can ask George Herbert Walker bush how that went when we went through a recession in 1991. He came out of the Gulf War at a 91 approval rating, higher than any president since Harry Truman and by Election Day 1992, he pulled 39 of the popular vote. That said, i think the president is on solid ground. There is an enormous amount of money coming into the economy. Because of the Infrastructure Work and so i think what i know the president is more interested in ultimately is how do we create means of opportunity, engines of mobility in the long term, not just one day at market. But democracies only survive and thrive when people believe that they have a fair Shot And Tomorrow can be better than today. If you look at the numbers and all the Social Science indicators we have, were at a historic level of, low level of trust in that future and i think that this president and the fullness of time is going to be judged not least on the extent to which he can restore that trust. I amgen generally false nate how they talk about the economy. How they message on it. You heard biden reference Donald Trumps obsession with the markets and him claiming wins and from the very beginning to the very end of trumps presidency, that was definitely true. Here is a reminder. We have the highest Stock Market in history. Our markets are hitting records all the time. I have many, many records of the highest Stock Market. Our Stock Market is an all time high. Who would have thought that. Bidens Point Today is that is not how hell be measuring a good economy talking about opportunity but messaging, trumps message was very easy to grasp. Is biden missing that . I honestly dont believe so for this reason. Donald trump reacted eloqementay to anything on the Tv Screen and because the numbers, because the Market Numbers were there, that was how he viewed the world. I really believe temperamentally the president is thinking years and decades than his predecessor was ever even remotely capable of doing and i dont say that just to reflectively depend the president but if you do what i do, which is you look back a lot, its fascinating that we have a 78yearold american president who thought his political career was done, right . I mean, once 2016 happened, biden moved off and that was that and yet, History And Fate have brought this man back to try to manage a pandemic, manage a deep crisis in democracy, manage this what i think of as this crisis of trust and these divisions that are as vivid and as deep as at any point since the civil war, and thats not hiyperbolehyperbole. John, jon, you literally read my mind. Your podcast, Finding Hope through history and when you look at the moment you just perfectly described, what hope do you draw from history for this moment that you just laid out . It was never forordained. There was never a Once Upon A Time and there is never going to be happily ever after. The same case in our own lives. Thats what a re pubrepublic is. This may sound overly grand for a monday. Democracy is about all of us. Were the Human Elements of it. The state, The Public Square is the fullest expression, the fullest manifestation of our dispositions of heart and mind, and so there are structural issues, obviously. There is a filibuster. There is a constitutional structure that champions the rights of the minority of the majority. There are any number of issues, but fundamentally, if you look back at american history, there has been a moral insistence that what jefferson wrote in the summer of 1776 should be applied not just to some but to all. And we the american history can be measured by the degree to which we expand that promise as opposed to limiting it. If thats grand, ill take it monday through friday. Thanks, jon. Very good to see you. Outfront next dr. Sonja gupta live on more american athletes being fing forced to st of the games because of coronavirus. And five women about to make Major League Baseball history. Ill speak with one of them. Managing Type 2 Diabetes . On it. On it. On it, with jardiance. 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Basketball player Katie Lou Samuelsson Samuelsson withdrawing from the games, and one held back from the flight due to covid protocols. The total number of positive cases linked with accredited personnel is now at 61. Dr. SAnjay Gupta is outfront at the olympics in tokyo. Four days now before the opening ceremonies of the 2020 olympic games, and covid19 is front and center. At least three u. S. Athletes have tested positive for the virus. Katie lou samuelsson, a member of the u. S. Olympics womens Basketball Team is the latest and wont be attending the games in japan. She joins cara acre, an alternate on the womens Gymnastics Team who tested positive here in tokyo. Shes had multiple Covid Tests come back positive. She has no symptoms. Shes been vaccinated. But the biggest disappointment is that this takes her out of it completely. She must isolate for at least ten days before being allowed to return to the united states. And another member of her team is also in quarantine. Im sure they were exposed, but to have become infected from that person, i think it would depend on how much time they have been spending together. So far, the games have seen dozens of cases but only a handful are among athletes, including one cluster that led to 21 close contacts. These cases, though, arent coming as a complete surprise. Keep in mind, the athletes are tested daily. If i thought all the tests we did were going to be negative, i wouldnt bother doing the tests in the first place. The numbers were seeing are extremely low. Probably lower than we expected to see if anything. Once Health Authorities approve, close contacts can still return to the competition. But they are subject to additional quarantine measures, which may include moving to separate rooms and training facilities. Eating alone, and using dedicated vehicles. We know that testing catches people perhaps after they have already been contagious and have had a chance to spread the virus to other people. The ioc estimates more than 80 of residents of the Olympic Village will be vaccinated, and tokyo 2020 officials maintain the athletes are safe. The Ioc And Tokyo 2020 are clear that the Olympic Village is a safe place to stay. With more transmissible variants like delta and over 11,000 athletes from all over the globe, the ioc has layered in a number of safety measures. Masks, distancing, all of it to try to stave off a superspreader event. But the major question looming is, will these positive cases show that the protocols are working or underscore the feeling that holding the olympics was ill advised in the first place. We had real concerns about the potential for transmission at the olympics well before delta as a variant took hold around the world. When that did happen, it only heightened our concern. And sanjay is joining me from tokyo. Sanjay, you have at least two fully vaccinated athletes from the u. S. Testing positive for covid. What does that say about breakthroughs in the general population . Yeah, this is going to be really interesting to follow this, kate, because as you know, the cdc in the united states, they dont recommend that a vaccinated person get tested even if they have been exposed as long as they dont have symptoms. You can see how much testing has gone down overall in the united states, probably gone down close to 80 since the end of last year. Now, thats important because we dont know what the real, real rate of Breakthrough Infections are, and maybe much higher than we realized. The important question will be, are people also getting sick, which they dont appear to be if they have been vaccinated. So thats going to be important. This is the first time we have a World Event of this size coming together to basically try to look at that data. How is the local population dealing with the olympics being there . You know, its interesting. As you might imagine, its the olympicics, the middle of a pandemic. 12 of the country here is fully vaccinated, not very high. The numbers have gone up for the Delta Variant. So right now, theres been these public opinion polls and they say about 80 of japanese residents that were polled before the olympics said this is not the time to have it. They knew that this could not be postponed again. It was either going to be canceled or go forward, but the public opinion about this happening here is pretty low. 80 say no. Sanjay, thank you so much for being there. And for your reporting. You got it. Thank you. Five women will make History Tomorrow as Major League Baseballs first female onair crew, when they call the Baltimore Orioles Tampa Bay Rays game. On the team are melanie newman, alana rizzo, heidi watney, lauren guardner, and sarah lang. This is so cool, but at the same time, i wish this was not such a Big Deal in 2021, but it is. Is this a Big Deal for you . For sure. And first of all, thanks so much for showing interest in this, and for having me on. Really, really appreciate it. I think thats the right sentiment. In a lot of ways, sure, this should have happened a really long time ago. I certainly as a Baseball Fan growing up, certainly think that, but were here now, and its really exciting that were doing this for the first time. Mostly because once we get past tuesday, its not a first anymore. And this will just be something that happens. You know, and that is whats really exciting to me, is just making this more part of the norm. So many women out there are Baseball Fans or are interested in working in Sports Media just across the board, any sport, and you know, if you see it, you can be it, and were going to help people see that in real time on youtube, which is a huge platform. Its a global game, so really, really excited for this. Absolutely. Does this game feel different, do you think, from other games . Do you feel a different level of pressure now that a first has been labeled to it . I dont really feel pressure. I mean, i love baseball. I talk about baseball for a living. I talk about baseball before i did it for a living. So theres not really any pressure there, but there is certainly more excitement and more energy around it. I have called other games and we were not doing nearly the same level of coverage for it leading up to it. Its been really refreshing to see just how excited, just the twitter world, the online world, whatever you want to say, has been about this game and how much interest has been put into it. So obviously, that distinguishes it a bit from another game, another regular season game, but no, i dont think theres any pressure. Alana and melanie are such professionals. Theyre so outstanding at what they do, and i have also been doing this, not as long as them, but pretty long, and theres no added pressure in that way. How did this come about . I mean, was this presented to you guys as, you know, as a first . You know, thats a great question. I got an email the way i typically do for these types of things. Hey, could you do this game on July 20th . I said yes. And the response okay, great, youre going to be with melanie, with alana, and it really was N Ant until we did an interview with The New York Times to announce the Event And Everything else that it sort of dawned on me, this is the first time this is happening. I couldnt think of a prior instance in the major leagues. Theres a minor League Broadcast that melanie was part of with suzy cool, i believe, in 2019. But i couldnt think of a major league one, but i wasnt necessarily sure that meant there hadnt been one. So i really appreciate that thats the approach that was taken. These are qualified people who are doing their jobs. They just happen to be all of the same gender and doing it together. And i definitely appreciate that it wasnt, hey, lets go do this, and its awesome that we also get to make history along the way. You all just rock at your jobs. Thats why youre doing it. This is very exciting. Congratulations. But lets have it be not the last. Thanks, sarah. Absolutely. Thank you so much for having me. And we can end where we began, which is so cool. But what took so long . Very excited for that game. Thank you all so much for joining us tonight. Im Kate Bolduan. Dont forget, you can watch outfront anytime, anywhere on cnn no. Anderson Cooper And Ac 360 starts now. And good evening from Launch Site one near van horn, texas, where tomorrow morning, Amazon Founder and now executive chair jeff bezos, his brother mark, an 82yearold aviation pioneer, and a teenager, very lucky teenager, will be rocketed into space. Were going to have more on the flight and what it might mean for the future of Space Exploration and Bezos Company Blue Origin later in the program. 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