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Its dignity. The freedom to go where you want, knowing your doctor can watch over your heart. Here are the two battling to the Line And Allyson felix. Simone manuels above her trying to fight on, and above simone. Getting an opportunity to show her stuff. Nonstop, displayed at the highest performance level. Finding something and the us takes Gold Dream on Dream On Dream On Dream On yes Ahhhhhhh Dream until your Dreams Come True welcome back, everyone. Joining me now to talk about the days top stories, cnn white House Correspondent John Harwood and democratic strategist joe trippi. He is now a Senior Adviser at the Lincoln Project. Gentlemen, Thank You so much. John, im going to start with you. President biden is focusing on the spike in crime across the country, pushing for more police, more funding for their departments. What are you hearing about this clear step away from the progressive wing of his party . Don, what it is, is a clear step toward Majority Opinion in the country. Remember, Joe Biden has never been for defunding the police. He was nominated over a series of more liberal democratic candidates and of course elected president. Nancy pelosi, the house speaker, does not support defunding the police, nor does chuck schumer. There is a relatively small group of progressive lawmakers who have adopted that slogan. Most of the rest of the party considers it a liability. Now, there is a significant overlap between some of the things that Joe Biden is for and some of the things the defund the Police Crowd are for. For example, he wants to as part of his anticrime Program Crack down on unlicensed gun dealers. He wants to help former felons who are freed from incarceration reintegrate into society. He wants to encourage Community Intervention programs to prevent violence. Hes not against other ways of preventing violence, but when it comes to cutting Police Budgets, reducing the amount of Police Officers on the street, Joe Biden is not for that. Hes not going to be for that. In fact, hes encouraging the opposite with a lot of the money for state and local governments in the american rescue plan, 350 billion. And theyre encouraging localities to use that, if needed, to support Police Budgets because crime is a top concern of the american people, and Joe Bidens responding to that. So you think that where Joe Biden is, is where the party is, and maybe my question, maybe i framed it wrong because i said it was a clear step away from the progressive wing of the party. Perhaps my question was framed improperly. What do you think . Well, i dont know that it was framed improperly. There is a progressive wing at the party that does favor that slogan and things behind the slogan, reducing Police Departments in favor of alternative forms of intervention, not sending a gun and a badge to a lot of police interventions. Again, i think those are some things Joe Biden would also be for, but i do think that a majority of democratic elected officials, a majority of the Democratic Party is not looking to cut Police Budgets and neither is Joe Biden. All right. So, joe, let me bring you in. President biden is giving a big speech tomorrow, making the case for Voting Rights while the gop is actively restricting the right to vote in statehouses. Youre worried about 2022, so much so that you joined the Lincoln Project. I introduced you as now a member of the Lincoln Project. If democrats dont do something about Voting Rights now, are they going to lose in the midterms . Well, theres a lot we have to do now, or were going to have real problems in the midterms. Part of that is because one of the reasons i joined the Lincoln Project is we have to stop seeing this as republicans versus democrats and right versus left. This really is All Of Us building i think we have to have a Prodemocracy Coalition to fight for Voting Rights, to fight against this authoritarian movement thats taken over the republican party. Its one thing as john says, look, we have wings in the Democratic Party. Theyre going to argue about these issues. But that wing you know, no wing has control. Joe bidens proof of that. If the progressive wing of the party had been taken control of the Democratic Party completely, Joe Biden wouldnt be the nominee. There were plenty of other candidates that they supported, and same thing We Saw in New York a few days ago with the election there for mayor. It is an important wing. Its got a voice. Its going to be heard. The problem is on the republican side, its not a wing thats taken over their party. Its an authoritarian Movement Led and fueled by trump, and the only way to defeat that is if the rest of All Of Us form a Prodemocracy Coalition, democrats, republicans, independents. If the press stops covering this as liberals versus republicans, you know, conservatives, democrats, versus republicans and starts to cover this as what it is, a fight for our democracy against an authoritarian movement. One great example of this is how much the press talks about how Joe Biden has failed to reach his 70 of americans getting their vaccination for the coronavirus. He didnt fail. This guy this administration made sure that every american, every american can get it, has access to it within five miles of where they live, most of them, and after doing all that, theres a movement out there that applauds that people that its failing. And yet the press still covers it as biden failing to get to a 70 goal. He did set that goal. I get that. But thats not why were missing it. Were missing it because of this authoritarian movement that, you know, forget the facts. Its not just the Big Lie of the election. Its a bunch of lies. Yeah. Well, you should continue to watch this show because thats not how we cover it. No, i know. Im not saying youre talking about us. Heres how we covered it tonight. That there were people at cpac and how it was a shame that they were applauding that america didnt reach its goal, that Joe Biden didnt reach its goal, which is shameful, not that Joe Biden didnt reach the goal. Theres context. Theres nuance. Don, you wasnt talking about your show. I know. Im just saying. I just want to make sure. Joe, its a pleasure to have you on. Joe, well see you soon, both of you soon as well. Thank you so much. Thanks. Pulitzer prizewinning Journalist Nikole hannahjones declining the university of north Carolinas Offer of tenure. Instead shes accepting a Faculty Role at Historically Black Howard University. The pulitzer prizewinning Journalist And Creator of the 1619 project had been chosen as uncs chair in Race And Journalism and despite the recommendation by the schools tenure committee, her tenure was initially denied by the Board Of Trustees. After protests from alumni, faculty and students the board changed its decision and offered her tenure at The End of june, an offer she then turned down. Nikole hannahjones joins me now. Thank you so much. Good to see you. Since we last talked, boy, you had a lot going on in your life. Im going to get to your decision to go to howard in just a minute, but i just want to get some things in that are happening in the news. Just this weekend, We Saw how your 1619 project remains a Rallying Cry for those on the right. I want you to listen. This is South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem at the cpac conference. Here it is. The 1619 project, critical Race Theory is hate, division, and its not american. Its offensive. We do not have racism in our dna in this country. We love each other. Obviously theres a lot to unpack there, nikole. Why do you think republicans interpret your work that way and make it a key part of their politics . I think that most republicans who say things like that have not bothered to read even a single essay in the 1619 project, and especially not my Opening Essay on democracy, which talks about my dad flying this flag despite being born into a country where black people had no legal equality, and ends with me saying that black people have as much claim on this country because we helped Build Democracy as any group of people here. If thats not america, thats basically saying that black people are not american and that our freedom struggles to help this country live up to its founding ideals is antiamerican. We know that thats a very old trope that conservatives have used to say that those who call on our country to live up to its highest ideals are not american. What i would say is not american is, you know, supporting an insurrection on the capitol of this country. So i think that republicans have determined that talking about racial inequality is going to be a Wedge Issue to really stoke resentment amongst their base, and they are conflating critical Race Theory, 1619 project, any true accounting of the history of our country as something that is in opposition to america and to whiteness, which of course its not. You just mentioned that. You mentioned critical Race Theory. Theyve latched onto this term, Chris Cal Race Theory, to stir up controversy. How do you cut through the noise on this because it seems like the gops slogans the slogan tactics, it seems like theyre working even though critical Race Theory, right, is in its purest form critical Race Theory is not being taught in elementary schools. Its not even a part of the curriculum. So why do you think that . Well, one, theyve yet to show me the Fourth Grade or fifth Grade Teacher who is teaching critical Race Theory. In fact, until republicans decided that this was going to be a winning issue for them, most k12 educators had probably never heard of critical Race Theory, which is simply a legal and theoretical framework that says after the civil rights movement, Black Americans still faced discrimination across american life. Why is that . And really gets to the way that discrimination is embedded into many of the structures of a country that was literally founded on slavery. Mmhmm. So i think that what has happened, though, is republicans are very good at messaging, and theyre very good at kind of turning the eyes of the media to framing these discussions the way that they want them framed. So instead of simply dismissing out of hand the fact that critical Race Theory, one, is not about calling every white person racist, that its actually an opposition to that. Its talking about structures instead of individuals. We are allowing them to kind of frame the conversation, and i think we have to stop doing that and simply stop covering critical Race Theory as some big concern amongst most americans and get back to covering, you know, real life. Because critical Race Theory has been around for a long time, but now it appears that its something that sticks. Therefore, the right, the rightwing media have latched onto to it because they see it has been reported to win back the suburbs by stoking fear among educated whites. But, listen, i read this piece in the New York times. It was saturday or sunday. He advocates first teaching what he calls a patriotic foundation that focuses on heroes, black and white, who did good and remarkable things, and then introduce the warts and all, history and its painful parts and our past. So what is your response to that idea . Teaching the patriotism of both blacks and whites and all people who contributed to this country and then introduce the other stuff . So, one, it must be, you know, an amazing luxury to hold off on the painful stuff until the right moment because i can tell you as a black american, as an indigenous americans, as asianamericans, we cant hold off on those painful parts. How does one teach about black patriots and not say that the war that black people were fighting was actually against their fellow countrymen to be recognized as full and equal citizens . Were going to teach about George Washington but not teach about how he got his Wealth And Privilege was on the forced labor of Black Americans because were going to hold off on that until later . So i think we really need to think about whats being said here. Whats being said is not that we should teach a truthful accounting of our history. What were being told is that if we teach a truthful accounting of our history, its so awful that maybe people wont be patriotic anymore. So i just think that that is really giving the game away, that this isnt really about telling the truth. This isnt about making sure that our children learn an accurate accounting of our history. It is about creating a narrative of american nationalism that is predicated on ignoring other histories of Black Americans and other marginalized groups until the appropriate time when we feel that, i guess, white children are ready to learn that because black children learn these things at a very young age. And how do you teach about Harriet Tubman without telling the reason why Harriet Tubman needed to do what she did and the purpose of the Underground Railroad . Im not sure if we Cant Talk about that. Lets walk through your decision to teach at Howard University over your alma mater, unc. How did you decide to go to howard instead . Well, you know, there were basically kind of three pivotal moments in my decision. One, i spent some time looking at the resumes of the members of the Board Of Trustees, who felt that they were better qualified than the faculty and the Peer Reviewers at the university of North Carolina to determine that i was not worthy of tenure. And i really decided that i didnt want to be in a position where political appointees would have any say over my career or my life again. And then of course there was the largest donor to the school, the university of North Carolina, walter huntsman, who we found out in the last six weeks had been lobbying against me privately and then who went on kind of a national Speaking Tour to castigate me as a journalist publicly, and his name is on the school. It became very difficult for me to believe i could maintain my Dignity And Work at a school with his name on it. Then it was the kind of third nail in the coffin was the Board Of Trustees waited until the last possible day, the last possible moment to vote on my tenure in a Split Vote and actually allowed Law Enforcement to push And Pummel Student Protesters in the process. And it just it was no longer a university that i wanted to work for or a position that i wanted. And i knew pretty early on that if i wasnt going to go to the university of North Carolina, i was going to go to a Historically Black college because, don, you and i both know really the burden of always trying to force your way into institutions that show that they dont want you or dont believe youre good enough to be there. And ive proven that enough in my life, and i decided the best way for me to use my talents and resources was to go to an institution geared towards black Excellence And Help support that institution and the work that its doing. Listen, i know its tiring. Thats i think most africanamericans know that, especially people who are of a certain generation. Did you ever consider, though, and this runs through all of our heads, maybe im missing an opportunity to do some truthtelling, you know . Maybe you missed an opportunity to do some truthtelling by choosing howard over unc. You could hold them accountable while youre still there. No . Yeah. I mean ive gotten that question a lot, and ive certainly thought about it. But im 45 years old. Ive been truthtelling for my entire adult life. I said people of a certain age. I didnt want to say hey, its on wikipedia. You know, and i just i just dont i dont want that fight. I feel like the obligation to sacrifice ourselves, to be in hostile territory is always placed on marginalized people. The people who need to fix what happened at unc are the people in power who created this circumstance. And the last Thing Id like to say quickly on that, im not there to i wasnt coming to unc to be a racial justice advocate. I was coming to unc to teach journalism, and i am going to be Teaching Journalism to students who have long gone to underfunded journalism programs. Hcbus cant draw the resources like a place like the university of North Carolina, and those people are just as worthy to get someone like me too instruct them on journalism as the students at the university of North Carolina. Those students have been great advocates. They protested on my behalf. But ill still be engaging with that university. Its my alma mater. I know this question may seem a little late. Ive been off spending time with my family, three different generations especially of black women in my family. My family is dominated by women. My mom, my sisters, and my nieces, right . Of course we have younger generations because its my great nephews. So before you go, you will now be colleagues with actress felicia rashad, who is a dean of Howards College of fine arts. Now, you know she sent this letter to the school students and parents apologizing for tweeting in celebration of Bill Cosbys sexual conviction being overturned. She since deleted that tweet. Shes apologized. What do you think about that . What do you think of the situation . I was really bothered and offended by the tweet that Dean Rashad sent. Im a woman. I know many women who were on that campus. I know women who were sexually assaulted while they were on a college campus. So i think she has some serious work to do to regain the trust of the students that shes going to be called to serve. And if i know anything about howard students, they are going to make sure that she does that work. You think theres a generational divide, especially among women, because there was in my house, without going into specifics. Im sure you can imagine the women who are older in my family didnt feel exactly the way felicia rashad, but were more than others, the younger folks who were willing to cut some slack in areas. The younger women in my family were like, no way. Do you know what im saying . Yeah. I think Bill Cosby holds a certain place in a certain generation of Black Americans who saw him break many barriers. But what ill also say is Bill Cosby had 60 accusations and admitted in his own Deposition Testimony that he drugged women in order to have sex with him. So there may be a generational divide, but ill tell you i just i think the facts are clear on what happened here and what side women should be on. No one said that he was no one believed that he was innocent, and i think you understand what im saying. Thank you, nikole. Always a pleasure. Thank you. I appreciate it, don. So this is really the story that everybodys talking about. I mean as we used to say, water cooler. 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Its good to see you. It feels like forever since weve been speaking about meghan and harry. Now we have this. Patricia, thanks for joining us again. The racist abuse against these three England Soccer stars is vile. How upset were you when you saw all of this hate thrown at them, especially after the English Team joined them in kneeling throughout the tournament to protest racial inequality . Well, you know, i wasnt surprised. I think i, like a lot of black brits, were kind of nervous because, you know, were english. Were british. We wanted england to win. But there was worry. We were reticent because we thought there would be a surge of the xenophobia and the Racism Weve seen bubbling under. And yet, you know, here we are in the same situation. So i mean the sort of stuff you see online hasnt just come about because of this. Its you know, first of all, there was the criticism about the Soccer Players taking the knee, and gareth southgate, the manager, was great in saying, look, we want to continue doing this. But there was, you know, there was a pretty lukewarm response to taking the knee from prime minister boris johnson, home secretary patel, and now sort of from some quarters being accused of being the people who helped kindle the flames and then have run over to the side of the Fire Brigade once the whole thing explodes. But i was shocked but not surprised. Yeah. One of the players i want to release this statement. One the players who was targeted, marcus rashford. He wreleased a statement saying this. I can take critique of my performance all day long, but i will never apologize for who i am and where i come from. I felt no prouder moment than wearing those three lions on my chest and seeing my family cheer me on in a crowd of tens of thousands. Look, racist attacks like these sadly arent new to european soccer. Do you think players are now standing up against this in ways that they havent before . Well, theyve been standing up against it a lot, i mean as an organization called kick out racism, you know, that works with Soccer Players. So theyve always tried to do it. But heres the issue. The online abuse is one thing, and i know that Culture Secretary Oliver dowden has started saying were going to start coming down heavily on a lot of the Social Media posts. But the online newspapers still heres the thing, don. I do not believe for one minute that, for instance, New York times or the Washington Post would have published all the racist abuse or big examples and screenshots of the racist abuse on Social Media thats been taking place. And yet the british newspapers have published that. I mean all over again. And i know from Friends Of Mine and myself, that is incredibly triggering that they can do that. So its not just football. Its a much wider thing. The u. S. Doesnt seem to have much of as much of a problem as admitting, yes, theres racism. Slavery took you know, it happened on american soil. You still have monuments to it, memories of it. In the uk, it was all done in the colonies. It was all done overseas. So its that kind of out of sight, out of mind thing. I mean im forever arguing if you try to say that theres any racism in britain, Theyll Bite back, you know, no theres not, no theres not. This has actually shown that, yes, there is. I love speaking to you. Trisha, Thank You so much. Be well. Good to see you. Thank you. Good to see you too, don. Thanks. Amid a spike in crime and Gun Violence all across the country, president Joe Biden holding a Meeting Today at the White House with Law Enforcement officials from around the nation. But will their proposals work . I dont just play someone brainy on tv im an actual neuroscientist. And i love the science behind Neuriva Plus. 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President biden increasingly concerned about the spike in crime and Gun Violence across the country, holding a Meeting Today at the White House with the Attorney General as well as Law Enforcement officials and elected leaders from around the nation. The White House saying that some of the billions of dollars from the massive Covid Relief Program passed earlier this year can be used to fight crime, including hiring more Police Officers. I want to bring in now alvin bragg. Hes the democratic candidate for manhattan District Attorney. Thank you so much for joining. I appreciate it. So we see whats going on in New York city, shooting incidents this year have surpass last years yeartodate count. What President Biden is proposing, is it going to work to stop the surge in crime . I think we have to take a really holistic approach. Ive seen Gun Violence from all perspectives. Ive had a semiautomatic weapon pointed at my head. I had a Friend Shot at a half a block away from me. I think we need to look at all sorts of models. When i was the number two lawyer at the New York Attorney Generals office, we really focused on stopping the flow of guns into new York State because we have very strong Gun Laws here. And i would put that really at the top of the list of what we need to do to prioritize particularly locally here in New York. Yeah. Lets talk more about that because new York Citys democratic mayoral candidate Eric Adams was in the room with president Joe Biden. He spoke with anderson earlier tonight. Watch this. Fighting crime is both intervention and prevention. Many people talk only about the preventive aspect of it, but we must deal with the crime that were facing now. And many of my colleagues throughout this country, they were reluctant to talk about it and even in the city of New York, they were reluctant to talk about the crime that we were facing on our streets, and i refuse to do so. Listen, hes right. I had him on and he was talking about crime and the importance of crime and what he planned to do, and other candidates werent talking about it, or at least speaking about it in different ways than he was. Do you agree . What is your approach to bring crime down . You know, look, just by way of background, im a career both civil rights and federal and state prosecutor. So i prosecuted Gun Trafficking cases. I prosecuted Gun Possession cases. So i think we need an All Of The Above approach. We need some of that traditional work that ive done, but we also need investment in our communities. Ive been talking to our Cure Violence folks who are really running to the fire and doing interrupting the stop retaliation. We need our hospital intervention. I think with guns, it is urgent. Im living this every day. I live in harlem, which is where i grew up. Before i turned 21, i had a gun pointed at me six times, three by the police and three by people who were not the police. Safety through both our civil rights and our Law Enforcement approach, which is what ive been doing the last 20plus years. I have to switch gears because you still have to win in november, right . But youre likely to succeed current manhattan District Attorney cyrus vance, or Cy Vance as hes known. That means potentially taking over the criminal case against the Trump Organization and its cfo, allen weisselberg. How do you plan on handling that . Well, you know, as i think you know, don, im constrained really from talking too much about that case under legal ethics rules since i very well may inherit it. But ive joined a number of complicated investigations on the eve of trial and midstream, and so the first thing i know is that a complicated longterm investigation like that, its my strong default to keep the team intact thats been working on that. So thats my default. I know the team members, many of them by reputation. So thats my default. And beyond that, its just hard. Well have to see where things stand when i inherit. But ive got a history of doing both public corruption work, prosecuted two mayors, the former Majority Leader of our state senate, and doing a number of cases like this, tax fraud, money laundering. So i stand at the ready to take it over and follow the facts where they lead. Alvin bragg, we appreciate you coming on. We hope youll come back. Thanks so much. Vice president Kamala Harris holding a Voting Rights roundtable today. Were going to hear about it from someone who was in the room, and that is michigan secretary of State Joyce lynn benson, next. Not touching is still touching protection. Adding Lysol Laundry Sanitizer kills 99. 9 of bacteria. Detergent alone, cant. Lysol. What it takes to protect. Air wick our Essential Mist transforms fragrance infused with natural Essential Oils into a mist. To awaken your home with an experience you can see, smell, and feel. Its air care, redefined. Air wick Essential Mist. 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Com here are the two battling to the Line And Allyson felix. Simone manuels above her trying to fight on, and above simone. Getting an opportunity to show her stuff. Nonstop, displayed at the highest performance level. Finding something and the us takes Gold Dream on Dream On Dream On Dream On yes Ahhhhhhh Dream until your Dreams Come True Vice President Kamala Harris praising texas Democrats Tonight for fleeing their state to block a restrictive voting bill, saying that theyre showing extraordinary courage and commitment. Those comments coming during a voting Rights Discussion in detroit today. Joining me now, one of the lawmakers who met with the Vice President , Michigans Secretary of state jocelyn benson. Im not going to call you joyce lynn anymore. I apologize for that. Jocelyn benson. Thank you, secretary, for joining us. You and other lawmakers and activists met with the Vice President today to talk about Voting Rights and threats to voting in michigan and around the country. What are you hoping the federal government will do . Use every tool at their disposal from the Bully Pulpit to their lawmaking ability, to their Enforcement Authority at the Justice Department to protect the votes of every citizen in this country. Its clear the assault on democracy is escalating. Its clear that as the democrats in texas have shown us today, we all need to prioritize this as the most fundamental issue before us in this moment, and we have to use every tool at our disposal to ensure that in every election, state, local, and federal, that every vote is protected. Michigan was targeted by the former president and his supporters trying to overturn the election. Lawmakers including sidney powell, lin wood, sued using Witness Statements that claimed supposed fraud, right . Well, today they faced a district court, Judge Linda V. Parker grilled them on whether they had tried to verify those statements, saying this. Theres a duty that counsel has that when youre submitting a sworn statement, that you have reviewed it, that you have done some minimal Due Diligence. How do you think todays hearing went . Well, it was six hours, so it certainly was it was a very educational experience, i think, for a lot of folks who watched it. It shows that there is a lot of Due Diligence happening with regards to this question before the court. Should there be consequences for when attorneys use their Privilege And Access to the court to try to undermine democracy with no facts, frivolous claims, with one goal of Sowing Seeds of doubt among the public about the integrity of our elections. And i think one of the things that i hope comes out of this and other efforts to seek sanctions against the attorneys who led these frivolous lawsuits are real consequences and accountability because if we dont have that, then this is going to continue. And we cannot have this become the new norm in our democracy. We have to respect the laws. We have to respect the constitution, and we have to respect the votes and peoples voices. Thats why this Hearing Today and the consequences that may come from it is so important. These lawyers are facing possible disciplinary action in michigan. They could face financial penalties, even be barred from practicing law in your state. What do you think should happen . All of the above. Again, until we have real accountability for those who sought to overturn the results of an election simply because they didnt agree with the outcome, were going to see this continue again and again. Thats really my greatest fear, that what We Saw and overcame in 2020 May return in future elections and may be worse. And that determination now to find accountability and hold folks to accountable consequences is going to determine whether or not we see a repeat in the future. So im hopeful that there will be real consequences here. I certainly think thats the direction the judge is heading in, and i think this is one of numerous ways in which the courts can be utilized to seek justice in this case to prevent future efforts to overturn elections based on frivolous evidence. Listen, you know, it may not be right, but we have seen individuals perpetrate frauds upon the court, right . Yeah. People who are not court officers. But when you have attorneys who seem to be doing this, do you think any of this, if they face, you know, disciplinary action, what have you, do you think any of this is going to shut down the lies and conspiracy about the election that a lot of folks in michigan still believe . Its well, its i think two different things. One, will people keep trying to spread the lies . To that answer, i think this accountability and consequences here in this case could stem the flow of this misinformation and efforts to deceive voters that continues to run rampant in our state and in others. But whether it will disinfect those who have already been affected by these lies and break through that misinformation remains to be seen. I think its unfortunate that there have been these seeds planted and based on no evidence. Weve got a lot of work to ensure people have rightfully placed faith in the integrity of our elections. But im committed to having those conversations with folks on the ground and continuing to use every tool at my disposal in the state of michigan to restore Citizens Faith in our democracy and ensure that they stay engaged and that we continue to push back against these efforts to deceive any voters in our state about the truth of our democracy. Jocelyn benson, Thank You. Always a pleasure, don. Thanks for having me. Well be right back. Frank is a fan of fast. Hes a fast talker. A fast walker. Thanks, gary. And for unexpected heartburn. Frank is a fan of pepcid. It works in minutes. Nexium 24 Hour And Prilosec otc can take one to four days to fully work. 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