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Plus a republican congressman says hes not responsible for his own Rallying Cry to a Mob Of Trump supporters who stormed the capitol. And details on the huge Cyber Attack targeting hundreds of businesses and whos behind it. Welcome to our viewers in the united states, and around the world. It is tuesday, july 6th. And americans shot off more than just fireworks on July 4. They also shot off guns. A lot of them, at Each Other. At least 150 people were killed by Gun Violence in more than 400 shootings across the country during the Fourth Of July weekend. From friday through sunday, there were at least four mass shootings with four or more victims from texas to virginia to ohio. Some victims as young as 5 years old. Big cities including New York and chicago, struggling with a significant surge in Gun Violence. In 2021, Gun Violence incidents in New York have spiked almost 40 year to year. Adrienne broaddus joins us now from chicago where it was obviously another very violent weekend. Reporter john, it was. And investigators here in chicago have something in common with investigators across the country. Many investigators at Police Departments are trying to determine a motive for these shootings, shootings that left at least 150 people dead. Among those killed, 16 here in chicago. And among the 16, a member of the illinois national guard. His family identified him on Social Media, and they said he recently completed basic army training. He was among those who died here in chicago. But at least 80 people were also shot. Not only here in chicago, as you all mentioned at the top of the hour, its happening in other large cities across the country. Since friday, at least 500 people were shot. In norfolk, virginia, 400 people were shot, and norfolk, virginia, four children, the youngest a 6yearold girl, also shot. Two 16yearolds, a boy and a girl as far as that 4yearold, investigators say her injuries were life threatening. Shes listed now in stable condition. Moving to dallas, thats where police responded to two separate shootings on the Fourth Of July. One where there were five men who were shot, and coming back to chicago, we heard from a doctor whos in one of the local hospitals. He sees trauma on a daily basis. And if you think about it, this is nothing members of the Health Community or any community in general should get used to. They are treating multiple gunshot victims daily. And he talked about the number of Gun Sales going up in 2020, and he said something has to be done to address this problem. John and brianna . Adrianenne broaddus, Thank Y very much. A new About Face from j. D. Vance, deleting tweets which he called trump reprehensible, and now hes publicly asking for forgiveness. Like a lot of people, i criticized trump in 2016 and asked people not to judge me based on what i said in 2016 because i have been open about the fact i did say critical things and i regret them and being wrong about the guy. I think he was a good president. I think he made a lot of good decisions for people, and i think he took a lot of flat. Joining me now cnn political commentator, michael smerconish. Saw you last night, this time we get to talk more. People remember the space that j. D. Vance occupies here. In his book, hill billy el, people who felt left behind by the economy, and he was very specifically critical of Donald Trump himself. Now that just hasnt changed, hes now basically apologizing for ever saying anything bad about trump. What does it say to you . Its so funny that you frame it that way because i had a conversation with my Radio Producer just last week when he announced his candidacy. We went back to our archives and replayed The Hill Billy Elegy interview that i did with j. D. Vance because i wondered aloud, is he the guy we thought he was when he first happened on the scene, and was embraced by the mainstream im mainstream media. Never scrub your twitter file. Thats worse in terms of an explanation, it Looks deceitful, and the K File or somebody else is always going to find those tweets. Instead, bury them, tweet more often and hope No One finds it. What it speaks to is the belief that you cant survive a contested republican situation, a primary, unless youre on the trump team. And then somehow in the general election, you need distance. So im sure j. D. Vance wishes that at times of the general election is when this all would come it light. Do you think you can survive, michael, if like j. D. Vance has, criticize trump in the past, tried to hide it, and now apologized for it. Do voters hes trying to attract accept that . I think voters that, well, maybe not that hes trying to attract because in a republican primary, you have got to be Lock Step with the former president of the united states. I think that most americans do fluctuate on many many issues. And that there would be a tolerance for a change in opinion. At least i hope so. My opinions certainly have changed over time, but the hiding of it, i think, is more problematic, than whatever it is he may have said initially. I thought it was kind of funny that Tim Ryan presumably, his democratic opponent in ohio in the general said theres one thing that j. D. Vance and i agree on, neither of us voted for Donald Trump. I thought that was funny. Michael last night, when you were hosting here on cnn, you had a conversation with an Arizona Election Official that was contacted or attempted to be contacted during, you know, the whole Big Lie run up by both trump and giuliani. I want to listen to part of that conversation. It wasnt stone walling. We werent in litigation at all of these points. I wanted to make sure that i was not having conversations outside of that, whatever needed to be said needed to be said in a courtroom in front of a judge or a jury. He knew. He knew it was wrong when they were trying to reach out to him. Thats what that says to me, michael. John, brianna, this is really interesting. Clint hickman is this fellows name, and he was a maricopa county supervisor, a trump supporters. Its not as if he were a detractor. Whats most significant to me is he was supportive of Donald Trump, had met him on the tarmac. He had even gotten one of those Campaign Rally Shout outs, but hes in a position now of authority relative to counting the ballots, and on two occasions when the white House Operator reaches out for him, one of them interestingly was a new Years Eve Phone call, he refuses to take the call. And meanwhile, in georgia, Brad Raffensperger does take the call and we all got to hear the Sum And Substance of it. So this was a guy who voted for Donald Trump, wanted Donald Trump to be reelected but knew enough to stay away when the former president who was then the president tried to meddle in the election outcome. I want to get your thoughts on something that i know has been weighing on your mind, mook l, michael, something that is relevant Post Fourth of july, the politicalization of the American Flag. So its funny because on radio recently going into the holiday weekend, i wondered aloud whether you could discern the political stripe of a neighbor by whether they were displaying the American Flag, and brianna, i had a great conversation with the radio audience, and people would call and say, if i see one on the back of the pickup truck, I Premium its a trump supporter. Im not sure i want to be perceived as a trump supporter. The New York times writes about this over the weekend, and of course it becomes a meme over on fox, oh, the New York times, can you believe now theyre critical of those who wave old glory, thats not what it was about at all. The polling data suggests that republicans more apt, it was 80 to 53 than democrats to be displaying an American Flag. Its just an observation of whether, like so many other things, now even the American Flag has become a symbol of the partisan divide. Its a shame. In a lot of ways that the flag has become a divisive symbol in some peoples minds, and not everybodys, and it shouldnt be. I want to ask you something crucial here, Matthew Mcconaughey, listen to what he said about america. As we celebrate our birth as a nation, a day that kick started a revolution to gain our sovereignty, lets admit this last Years Trip around the sun was a head scratcher, but lets also remember that we are babies, you know, as a country, we are basically going through puberty in comparison to other countrys time lines. A, time is a flat circle, b, apparently Americas Body is changing, and having uncomfortable thoughts. What hes saying there, michael, actually, i think isnt unserious, though because he uses the Puberty Word and its Matthew Mcconaughey in sunglasses, i think a lot of people were snickering. Two things, Number One, youre popular up until the point when you formally decide to get in the race, and then all of a sudden your numbers change, so be careful Matthew Mcconaughey, love your work but those numbers dont remain where they are today. Secondly, puberty, nah, i think its midlife crisis, and lets all buy the Porsche And Move on. I have found this whole conversation interesting, though, i will tell you, the fact that he used the word puberty, i think, has gotten the conversation going in a way that people are trying to think about where is this moment that we are in as a nation. And i will say, i dont know, i dont know about buying the porsche, Thats Kind of crazy, michael smerconish. The wispy nation. After months of progress, coronavirus cases are rising again in parts of the country despite the vaccinations as highly contagious Delta Variant spreads, this is according to new data from Johns Hopkins University that, states with below average Vaccination Rates have almost tripled the rate of new covid19 cases compared with states above average Vaccination Rates. Lets talk about this with someone who has seen this on the ground firsthand, dr. Nick sawyer, an Emergency Medicine Physician at Uc Davis health. Sir, Thank You for being with us. You caught our attention because just a few days ago you tweeted this. You said i intubated an incredibly sick patient with covid19, age about 30. I feel like this shouldnt be happening. Get vaccinated. T tell us, you know, what that makes you think when you see it, and what you are thinking about people getting vaccinated writ large. Its, you know, its been an incredibly long 15 months, and we had this patient come in, who was incredibly sick, and very young, and really confused, altered mental status, didnt know, ultimately, i mean, initially what was wrong with this patient. And you know, wearing the protective gear in case it was coronavirus, and it turned out in The End after the breathing tube, that the patient came positive for covid, and its just, you know, were all shaking our heads in the Emergency Department thinking why is this still happening. We have vaccinations that are readily available. Were the envy of the world, you know, everybody has the opportunity to get vaccinated. And still theres people out there who are not getting vaccinated and getting really sick and its just this far into it, its a real shame. It sounds awful, we have now reached the optional portion of the pandemic, at this point. This is the optional part. Anthony fauci said 99. 2 of deaths are coming among unvaccin unvaccinated people, that is an extraordinary statistic. And you can choose to get them in your own county. Only 60 of the people in sacramento are vaccinated at this point. That shows you the danger. Yep. I mean, its amazing, at this point, i actually worked yesterday and we had three patients who were positive for coronavirus yesterday. We just went through weeks and weeks and weeks without any coronavirus positivity. And everybody that i talked to had decided not to get the vaccine. And the thing is that when we speak with patients, what really needs to happen is the doctors and the nurses and other Health Care professionals really need to step Up To answer peoples questions. I took part in a Phone Bank in our local news where people could call in and just talk to doctors from Uc Davis health, and people have legitimate questions, because they were concerned about, you know, Coronavirus Vaccine Side effects, and just a lot of it was Conspiracy Theories, and a lot of it was legitimate questions people wanted to know before they got vaccinated. And i think theres a lack of communication, that people have time to spend time talking to health professionals, and investing people, and many of them told me they were willing to get vaccinated that next day, they just need to have a few things cleared up. Good for you for engaging people outside of the hospital in a way like that to answer some questions. Its really good feedback that youre getting. I do want to ask you about what were seeing with this Delta Variant. An israeli study shows that the Pfizer Vaccine was somewhat less protective against severe Disease And Hospitalization than before, and linked this drop to the spread of the Delta Variant. You know, what are your concerns as youre Looking at these numbers, and how its interacting not as well with the vaccinations . Yeah, i mean, the first thing ill say is that its still protective to the point that if you get sick with the Delta Variant its going to reduce the illness that you get. Its kind of like the flu vaccine. Each year they forecast what the flu will Look like, and come up with a new booster shot, and so if you get the flu, youre not quite as ill as you would be if you didnt get the Flu Shot at all. Thats how it is when you get the covid vaccination, and thats incredibly important that people understand that its not like this Delta Variant out there, may as well not get vaccinated at all. The vaccines provide a level of protection. Please get vaccinated. The major thing that we need to be very very clear about is that these vaccines are incredibly safe, incredibly effective, and all of the Conspiracy Theories that are flying around in the Social Media stras ustosphere a just not true. We have Looked at the data and read the reports, and i want to make sure its clear that people understand that these vaccines are incredibly safe and effective. Delta variant or not, get vaccinated and if we need to get a booster, well get boosters. The Delta Variant is more reason to get vaccinated. Its certainly a doozy there. And you may be seeing that in your Emergency Room soon. Dr. Nick sawyer. Thank you. Thank you. Another Cyber Attack targeting hundreds of businesses, why we may not know the full scope of the damage here. And republicans going after president bidens agenda. One former senator who has been called the Joe Manchin of the Obama Era joins us on why saving the senate may be too late. 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Now, there are some efforts underway, but i dont know how significant they are in ittermsf numbers. If you Cant Count votes in d. C. , youre in lala land. If the votes are there, and they can come together, then well see the senate resuscitated. But the way it is right now, its on Life Support. Inability to come together and work. Whose fault is that . Well, its easy to say its the systems fault, but it isnt necessarily the systems fault. People want to blame the filibuster as being the reason. Thats not the case. The senates worked in the past with the filibuster. So that isnt the answer. I think whats happened, i think the leaders of the caucuses, the democratic leader and or in this case the republican leader can have too much power seeded to it, and in particular, the leadership on the republican side, Mitch Mcconnell only has one republican vote for him as the leader of the republican caucus. And thats from rand paul, his colleague. You know, when you go to the senate, youre there for the same reason your colleagues are. You got more votes in the last election than your opponent did. You won the election. Nobody back home necessarily voted for somebody to be leader, so you have to be careful that you dont seed too much power to the leader and that the leader doesnt become autocratic and threaten you to take away your leadership positions or your committees assignments, so the leadership has way too much power. The leaders are there to make sure that the trains run on time, and that the business of the senate is accomplished. Not to obstruct and assert at the very beginning of a president ial term that your Number One goal is to make sure that that president doesnt get reelected. Thats the problem i think we have in the senate today. I want to pick up on the last point there. You suggest that there are too many senators now who Go To Washington to stop things from happening. Thats right. Instead of going there to get things done. How much of a change is that . Well, you know, when i was running for the senate the first time, i said that with respect to the president , for example, ill support the president when i think the president is right, i wont when i dont, but im not going to obstruct. Ill try to Look for solutions. Thats what has to happen. They have to Look for solutions and stop obstructing. Now, if youre doing something like i think Joe Manchin is doing at the moment, hes not obstructing, hes holding things Up To try to bring bipartisanship back into the mix of things. Bipartisan solutions are almost always better, and almost more lasting and ever lasting than an absolute partisan slam dunk. There are people on this article in the New York times which mention where you talk about in advance of your new book suggest that you are the Joe Manchin of your era. Im not sure its a onetoone comparison there. Times were different then, and Joe Manchin is holding out for people suggest, holding out for an ideal that doesnt exist anymore. What do you think of that . Well, you know, i hope thats not the case. I hope thats not the case that it doesnt exist anymore. I dont think its as prevalent as it was when i was there. We had a pretty large contingent called the centrist coalition. And it was bipartisan. And people, you know, sometimes its 20 people. Sometimes more. Sometimes fewer. But we have people who are willing to cross the Aisle And Work with one another to try to find an answer, try to find a solution. Move the ball forward. Get to the 10 yard line finish. That was where we were back then. I think that theres too much intimidation now with a leader on the republican side who says you do it for me, do it as a favor. I dont understand the power that the leadership has today. It certainly didnt have it back then with a Gang Of 14 on judicial nominations, getting up and down votes. Seven democrats, seven republicans took the ball and decided we were going to get judicial nominees, up or down votes and that not everything was going to be filibustered or have to go to cloture as they say. So its possible for maybe to take the ball away from the leaders just a bit, and work on your own to bring about bipartisan solutions. I dont think its dead. I think its on Life Support, but i think the senate is going to die if they eliminate the Fill Buster and turn it into a raucous group like the house that is slam dunk, whoevers in charge, whoever has the majority wins as opposed to recognizing the rights of a minority to work things out in a cool, calm, collected fashion. Of course that does assume there is a solid center of people who want to get things done and compromise. Well see. Senator nelson, great to be with you. Thanks so much for being with us. Thanks, john. We spoke to a crowd of trump supporters hours before the capitol mob. Here the defense of bo brooks. 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Democratic Eric Swalwell sued republican Mo Brooks arguing that brooks incited the Capitol Riot in his speech to the Trump Crowd hours before the riot making an appeal, or actually it was taking names and kicking ass. Now, Brooks Claims that his words were protected speech, protected as a member of congress. Joining me now is the attorney for congressman Eric Swalwell. Great to see you again, as we monitor the progress. Thanks for having me back. Your argument is that Mo Brooks was acting in his personal capacity. His response to the court hes arguing that it was in more of his professional capacity, which is an important thing to note because he does have protections if he can convince the court that he was acting as a member of congress. You know, how concerned are you about this argument . Look, its not a crazy principle that hes raising. As you said, members of congress have cover for things within the scope of their employment, giving speeches, doing things for constituents and thats fine. Thats good. We want elected officials working. The key, though, is what is within the scope of employment, and clearly not everything a member of congress or any employee does is within the scope of employment. Thats why theres a test to figure out if, in fact, it was. Thats the point we think Brooks Misses or ignores which is what happened on January 6th and the lead Up To that is absolutely not anything that is legitimate or could be construed as legitimate business of a member of congress. It was a call to arms based on an entire Fraud And Fiction perpetrated on the country by brooks and trump, the other defendants in this case. And it has no legitimate purpose. And you know, its not like he was giving a speech at a Bake Sale or, you know, giving signatures for a petition Looking to sternly ask Joe Biden to give the election he stole back. This was at a rally that had one purpose and that led to exactly what was foreseeable and intended. He says he was representing constituents upset about the election, the outcome of the election. He also alleges Voter Fraud in many states, which by the way is verifiably not true, it just didnt happen. His lawyers say this, quote, in brooks judgment, Donald Trump won the Electoral College and should be serving his second term as president of the united states. Brooks welcomes public debate with anyone who Ignorantly Claims otherwise. Okay, he is wrong. Right. So if he is perpetrating a lie on behalf of his constituents, thats his argument, two things could be true, one, he actually believes it or two he doesnt. So lets start with the he doesnt because that seems i think a lot of members of congress to fall into that one. If he doesnt believe it but hes perpetrating it on behalf of his constituents, is he possibly protected. Theres many times lawmakers may be perpetrating something thats not True On Quote Unquote Behalf of their participants. I dont know what it is, if hes dangerously delusional or dishonest, either way, i dont think its good for anyone, but i guess my response to that is his constituents had their voice. They voted for who they voted for, and they lost. Just like many millions of other americans and do every president ial election cycle. The test is not my constituents would prefer Donald Trump to be president , and therefore im just speaking their will, the test is we have an election, a person won that election who wasnt Donald Trump, neither brooks nor his constituents nor anyone else is free to then engage in willfully destructive conduct undermining the democracy because they dont like the results of the election. And its inarguably true that the election was secure, was not riddled with fraud, and the fact that brooks is probably lying through his teeth, and knowingly running with something he knows not to be true makes it all the worse. Thats precisely the kind of thing we cannot have in a democratic society. Quickly before i let you go, next step, what are we Looking at in this case . The judge issued an Order Yesterday asking for our response, and asking for d. O. J. To respond by july 27th. 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In an otherwise roaring u. S. Economy, its a potential problem for the biden administration. The White House said it is monitoring the Opec Plus negotiations. We are not a party to the talks by administers officials have been engaged can relevant capitals. In other words, pump more oil. The Opec Drama comes as americans are on the roads and paying the highest Gas Prices in seven years. The average price of a gallon of regular is 3. 13, prices 44 , prizes are rising as the economy is roaring back to life. Theres a shortage of Tanker Truck drivers to deliver gas to stations. Wall street analysts tell us you need to have Opec Plus come to the rescue by pumping more oil to meet surging demand and new new date set for a meeting. A lot of this as the economy is up and running. You have people who are using more gas, you have planes that are flying, manufacturing facilities using more crude products. 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Yesterday just shy of the pandemic record. The third busiest day of the pandemic. Whats interesting is thursday and Friday Numbers were larger than the same day back in 2019. Really speaks to the whole notion of pent up demand, people just waiting on the side lines to travel again. The lines at Regan National Airport are the longest we have seen in months. The tsa said they were screening more people than 2019 like Nashville And Myrtle beach. United airline c. E. O. Scott kirby said he expected that monday would be the busiest day for the airline in the last 16 months. Leisure demand is more than 100 recovered. Indicates the huge desire for people to get back to living life. Reporter remember, this whole experience of coming back to travel has not been without its problems. Flight aware says airlines canceled or delayed in the u. S. About 2,000 flights just yesterday comparatively small number to what it was, but remember airlines got a lot smaller during the pandemic. That means fewer People Staffing fewer airplanes makes it harder for airlines to bounce back from things like Maintenance And Weather issues. Brianna. Really tough for flyers to get rescheduled. And certainly puts a crimp in their travel plans. Pete live at national airport. Thank you. Helping to make important decisions for the nation and legacy, a new book explores the Untold Stories of unofficial president ial advisers and how these Friendships Influence History and the world. Its called First Friends The Powerful Unsung and unelected people who shape our president s. The author, Gary Ginsburg joins me. Gary, great to see you. I have to say this subject so fertile, i think its a great subject for a book and the examples you chose were phenomenal. Why did you decide to do this . Well, since i was a young kid ive always been fascinated by the american presidency. When i got older i worked on president ial campaigns then i worked in the clinton administration. I came to witness some really remarkable close friendships between leaders and their best friends and i learned to appreciate how this friend could speak more bluntly, act more naturally than any Staffer Or Aide could. And even in some cases as i write, have a meaningful impact on consequential decisions. To my surprise theres been very little written about this dynamic, almost nothing in president ial literature. Books about first wives, first pets, first chefs, even first butt letters, but not first friends. So i decided to write the book. You talk about the impact of history. How about israel . President true Mans Friend eddy jacobson. Lets talk about the friend he had from the habadashery. Someone with deep in securities yet out sized ambitions. The most powerful leader who never earned a degree. He used antisemitic slurs but recognized israel. For the latter part in particular, it was Eddie Jacobson who played a crucial role. Tell us about eddie. It was. I think that chapter is the most powerful example of how a lifelong friendship can change history. In the early 1920s in kansas city, it failed, but they stayed best friends afterward. And because of this friendship which was a relationship built on total trust, total respect, jacobson could fly halfway across the country, march into the Oval Office one day in 1948. He didnt have an invitation, and he could speak to the president in the most direct and brutally honest terms, using words and mannerisms that no staffer would dare try lest they get fired. All of this was to convince the president to do what he knew was right. But out of frustration that i detail in great length in my chapter, hed been resisting which is recognize an independent jewish state. Two months after eddie walked into the Oval Office and spoke to him, only after that intervention was truman was the first foreign leader to recognize israel minutes after it was declared. It was amazing the influence he had and the change in history he made by that one trip is phenomenal. You say that Bill Clinton may not have been president had it not been for vernon jordan. Explain. Well, he had this magical career, but in 1980 when he was running for reelection for Arkansas Governor he lost and he was devastated. Vernon jordan called hillary and said im coming to talk some sense into you guys. In 2 1 2 hours he spoke in blunt terms to bill, you have to stay in the game. He was thinking about leaving, taking private sector jobs, other jobs. After that 2 1 2 hour conversation, he stayed in the game, became governor two years later and president ten years later. Abraham lincoln and Joshua Speed. This is historically interesting. Why . Well, its interesting because in 1841 first, they were sleeping together in the same bed for four years in a little room above a store that Joshua Speed owned. And in 1841, lincoln becomes totally depressed. Hes thinking of killing himself. Speed takes away all of his sharp objects, his razors, et cetera, essentially saves his life. And then 20 years later one of the first Meetings Lincoln has as President Elect is with speed. Please come join my administration. Speed says, no, im too rich to do it. Ill do something more important. Ill save kentucky from seceding, one of the five border states crucial to keeping them in the union. He does everything to keep kentucky in the unii dont ththink union, they go to war and stays intact. You said they were more than just friends but you found no evidence of that. Historians have been trying desperately to prove that they were lovers, but theres just no evidence. Former president Donald Trump, now, its interesting. He had certain types of friends. Friends like Rudy Giuliani who helped get him impeached twice. But in terms of like close personal friendships, trump is not included in your book. Why . Well, actually, i wanted to include him. I called someone as close to trump as anyone. We went back and forth. Is there a first friend . Even this person said at The End, had to admit hes friendless. Hes a guy who just doesnt need a first friend. Hes constitutionally and emotionally capable of living without one. I think at The End of the day his first friend is really his Twitter Feed for want of a better way to describe it. Just the a ddoration of his bas. He would take friends and relatives to camp david. What he would do is closet himself in the cabin and call around to supporters to get affirmation. I couldnt find a Trump Friend as much as i tried. Maybe he needed one. Maybe that is something it can make a difference, as you point out in the book repeatedly. I think we saw that in the last two months when No One could kind of go into the Oval Office and speak the hard truth to trump and tell him to get off the Big Lie. Maybe that would have saved him from the second impeachment. I have a little bit of extra time here. I want to ask you about one of the worst president s ever, Nathaniel Pearce and david hawthorne. How could such a bad president be friends with such a great writer . Its a story of two men who were deeply loyal to Each Other for 45 years. They were really against the world. They were pro celebrity who refused to pay homage. They remained intensely loyal to The End. When pearce took hawthorne away when he was dying and had hawthorne die by his side, its a touching but sad chapter in my book. Gary ginsburg, i think you can see how much i like this book and enjoy the stories in it. I encourage people to buy it, first friends. It is such a fertile area that hasnt been explored. Gary, Thank You very much. Thank you very much, john. New day continues right now. Im John Berman alongside brianna key letter. On this new day, does the new Delta Variant show signs of evading vaccines . A former white House Covid Adviser standing by to talk to us right now. Plus, new hurricane watches now posted for parts of florida. We are live on the ground as tropical Storm Elsa closes in. And is the u. S. Headed in the right direction . What more americans are saying about that this morning and what it could mean for the next president ial race. Also high anxiety after the florida condo collapse. Right now the tallest residential building in San Francisco is sinking quite a bit and tilting. Good morning to our viewers here in the united states and all around the world. It is tuesday, july 6th, and new concerns this morning about possibly the effectiveness of the Pfizer Vaccine against the fastspreading Delta Variant. We have new analysis released by the israeli government. And this data shows a decline in protection against infections as well as severe disease. Israels Ministry Of Health is now recommending fully vaccinated people who came into contact with an infected person should be tested. Lets bring in senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen. I mean, to be clear, elizabeth, this actually makes the case to get the vaccination even as its showing perhaps some dip in the response here. Tell us what this data says. Absolutely, brianna. When i read this, my first response was Thank Goodness im vaccinated. Now, before i get into this data, brianna, i want to put out a caveat. The israeli Ministry Of Health

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