Following all of this for us. It seemed like a pretty dicey situation for a little bit. What is the latest . Reporter a scary, terrifying situation unfolded. Around 1 30 a. M. Police found two weeks on the Breakdown Lane on i95. People in one vehicle were refueling the other vehicle. Police saw a lot of guns and asked for licenses and identification. People did not want to do it. Some ran off and some stayed where they were setting off this Ninehour Standoff that led to police having to block off both sides of i95, tell residents in some of those nearby homes to stay in their homes as they waited for this. We are learning a little more about what the motivation was. Some of the folks in that group mentioned that the laws of the u. S. Dont apply to them. They may be part of what is a morris sovereignty movement. Police in Massachusetts Say thats not true. You have to abide by the laws as they are. They were worried about how this might go down but in the ending it did end peacefully. Now come the questions about the group and what happens next to these folks that were arrested. Police say on tuesday they expect them to arrive in court. For now the roads are back open where they were but after a very, very scary moment that vital artery for holiday transportation, i95, is back open after that long and scary standoff, phil. Yeah, 95 on a Holiday Weekend. But obviously extraordinarily grateful that everyone is safe. That seemed like a messy potential situation. Evan mcmorrissantoro. Theres a lot of questions. Well get back to you if anything pops up. Meanwhile, here in washington, d. C. , House Speaker Nancy pelosi appointed eight members to the January 6 committee this week. Now, under the resolution that established that committee, House Minority Leader Kevin Mccarthy gets to appoint five people to the committee in consultation with pelosi. But if or when he will appoint those members that at this point is anyones guess. Cnns Ryan Nobles has the latest from capitol hill. Ryan . Reporter its a Waiting Game now to find out how the House Minority Leader, Kevin Mccarthy, is going to respond to House Speaker Nancy Pelosis Decision to move forward with a select committee to investigate the insurrection here at the capitol on January 6. Pelosi has already unveiled her picks for that committee, eight different members of the House Of Representatives, including a republican, liz cheney. Now, mccarthy has not said whether or not he even plans to cooperate, let alone whether he is ready to appoint the five names that he will be able to do of course with pelosis approval. But there is a lot of speculation as to how republicans will conduct themselves once they are a part of this committee. Theyre already starting to strategize those plans. Sources telling cnn that republicans are ready to turn the tables on the House Speaker herself, especially if that committee starts to focus or Zero In On Kevin Mccarthys role on January 6th. There are many House Members who have said that perhaps pelosi should be called in front of this committee to talk about what took so long for there to be reinforcements to help the Capitol Police to respond to the riot as it crushed the capitol on that day. That doesnt seem to be bothering pelosi or democrats right now. They continue to say that they are ready to turn this into a Factfinding Mission and they will go wherever that leads. That includes bringing republicans in front of this committee and those republicans could include mccarthy, they could include other members of the House Of Representatives like, for instance, greg pence, the brother of mike pence, who was with the former Vice President as the capitol was under siege. All of them apparently are fair game. At this point it is all about trying to find as much information as possible as to what went wrong on that day. Ryan nobles, cnn on capitol hill. Thanks to ryan for that. Obviously so many more questions to have answered. Hopefully well get some of them answered, even if its at the earliest stages of this committee. Joining me now, Pete Aguilar from california, one of the eight House Members, also a member of leadership picked by Nancy Pelosi to investigate the capitol insurrection. Congressman, thanks so much for your time. I want to start at 30,000 foot because weve seen so much information about what happened on January 6th. I know you were there, i was there on January 6th as well. But there still seems to be so much out there. What is the most important question for you that this committee must answer when this is all said and done . You know, when this is all said and done, at the end well wanting to produce a report because we know that it was an attack on democracy. And so the most important thing we can do is to make sure that this doesnt happen again. You know, the 9 11 report should be the gold standard. But detailing a series of recommendations and changes that we need to make in order to prevent something like this from happening again, thats going to be the focus and that would be the overarching goal of why we will continue to seek the truth throughout this entire effort. To drill in a little bit just because this has been such a prominent issue over the course of the last several months, theres been a lot of questions about what was said between then President Trump and Minority Leader Kevin Mccarthy on the day of the insurrection. Theres public testimony from a republican member of congress related to that in the impeachment trial. How interested are you or your colleagues in that specific call . Were available and Chairman Thompson said it the other day. Were available were seeking all available information on who knew what when and what those conversations were. So all available information means anything thats relevant to the investigation, to the response, to what led up to January 6th. All of that should be fair game. Thats what were going to continue to seek and try to find. Is there any reluctance on your side or from the side of your seven colleagues about calling a republican member because that feeds into the republican narrative that this is a political exercise to some degree, or are you pushing that to the side and focused on what you guys can accomplish . Well, we want to focus on what we can accomplish but we have zero reluctance to follow every available lead wherever that takes us. So we want all of the information. And so thats going to mean having conversations with people who are there. You and i were there that day, phil, but many others, there could be opportunities for Capitol Police officers to offer testimony as well. And so those are the things that were seeking to find. But specific to the response, as you know, detailed in the Senate Report that was put out, ive read inspectors generals reports in my role on House Administration on the hierarchy of Capitol Police and some of the deficiencies that happened that day. So were going to want to continue to drill down on all of these aspects, but we cant be afraid of where it takes us and were not going to be shy about chasing the available information that will help make an informed report for the american public. When you talk about available information, i want to ask you about something, a new report from one of my colleagues over at cnn k file. He uncovered pictures of a Conservative Youtuber who participated in the January 6 riot accompanying republican members of congress on their recent trip to the border. His name is Anthony Aguerra with congressman lauren boebert. Here he is the day after the Insurrection Bragging about participating in it. Take a listen. We were all there. It was not antifa and it was not blm. It was trump supporters that did that yesterday. Im the first to admit it. Being one myself. I guess, congressman, besides the jarring recognition that somebody who was there is now currently Hanging Out with your current colleagues in the wake of it, many of whom were there on January 6, what do you make when you see something like this and see the fact that some of your colleagues are still in cahoots, Hanging Out, with i dont even know what the right terminology is. With somebody that was there and openly acknowledged his role on January 6 . Well, its disappointing but it shouldnt be surprising to anyone who was there. You know, the misinformation continues to be a key aspect that many of my colleagues on the other side of the aisle continue to fan those flames and even recently some have speculated that the continued conspiracies related to this day or calling it tourist activity. This is just absolutely ridiculous, phil. So this just further underscores the importance of the role that we have to play and the importance of the product that we need to produce and to take politics out of this and to give something that the american Public And Policy makers and my colleagues and Capitol Police and 140 Capitol Police officers who were injured that day, something that we can be proud of. At the end of the day thats what we want in a final product. But it is jarring to hear that individual who pals around with some of our colleagues. Its frustrating, but its not going to deter from the work that we have ahead of us. Let me ask you, one of the things that i think myself and my colleagues would pick up is publicly some of your republican colleagues would be in one place and speak to us privately and acknowledge that some of the things they were hearing were bonkers or they didnt like it or were uncomfortable with it or wished they could go in a different direction but didnt politically think they could. Youre not considered a partisan in the democratic caucus. You have republican friends. When you have candid discussions with your republican colleagues, do you pick up from any of them that they want this panel to work, that they want a report that does what you meant it to do or are they all just kind of covering their eyes on this . Many of the colleagues that i talk to actually voted for the bipartisan commission, which is what we would have preferred in may. Up until Kevin Mccarthy backed away from a John Katko discussed and brokered arrangement that had bipartisan Support And Mitch mcconnell asking his caucus in the senate to do him a personal favor in voting this down. Thats what many of our colleagues privately on the other side of the aisle and honestly thats what we wanted because i think it would have added credibility to the report. But Kevin Mccarthy backed away from that deal. He couldnt take yes for an answer. Mitch mcconnell torpedoed those senate efforts so this is where were at. The focus in front of us is to make sure this is as apolitical as possible No Matter who Kevin Mccarthy appoints. Were going to do something that people can be proud of and were going to do it in a professional and unbiased way. The irony of attacking a select committee that was put together because you opposed a bipartisan commission as partisan is an interesting play. Congressman Pete Aguilar, thank you for your time, especially on a saturday. 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At the end of the day that building is too unsafe to let people go back in. I know there was a lot of people able to get out fortunately who have things there, were very sensitive to that. But i dont think theres any way you can let somebody go up in that building the shape that its in now. Our mission is to expedite it. Kevin guthrie reports once everything is ready to go that it can be brought down within 36 hours. And so it will entail minimal Work Stoppage from the search and rescue. Cnns Brian Todd is in surfside for us. Brian, this seems to have really happened rapidly over the course of the last 24 hours, this decision. What can you tell us about this new urgency to demolish the rest of the building, Champlain Tower South . Reporter well, phil, it is a real race to do this but they have to be deliberative, they have to be careful. But they really are concerned about the dangers that the remaining tower poses and specifically not only the stability of that tower but also whats hanging off of it. We got a good view of whats left of the Champlain Towers south tower yesterday. We saw a large Concrete Slab Hanging from the building and a large concrete column hanging from the building. It frankly doesnt look like these are hanging by much so those are the dangers theyre thinking about. Of course they try to get this done ahead of the tropical storm thats coming that could get here as early as monday. Not clear as all wll they can get this building demolished by that time but here is the mayor of surfside talking about just the need to demolish that building soon. The fear was that the hurricane may take the building down for us and take it down in the wrong direction, on top of the pile where we have victims. Well allow our Rescue Workers to pore all over the entire site without any fear of any danger from falling debris or falling buildings. Reporter we also have some detail about some Repair Work that was supposed to be done to the Champlain Towers south complex. An Engineering Firm that was hired for the 40year recertification, which would have come this year, this is the structural Engineering Firm. This firm found deep Concrete Deterioration near the pool of the building but they could not perform repairs because of concerns about stability and also because of the fact that the Condo Association or the management of the building was going to keep the pool open during that Repair Work. So we have that detail to report to you this afternoon, phil. Just a lot of information coming out about the maintenance of that Building Or Lack thereof that may have contributed to the collapse. Again, we may not know the real cause of this for months. Yeah, just so many details seem to keep coming out every day. Great reporting by you and our colleagues, yet it still feels very tip of the iceberg. We focus on the building but were Learning Heart breaking details about one of the victims. A 7yearold victim is the daughter of a City Of Miami firefighter. What more can you tell us about that tragic story . Reporter well, phil, this is really difficult to talk about for anybody looking at these pictures of this little girl, any parents out there. We do have some detail. There was a letter named Nicole Mejias who told us that five Family Members were in Champlain South when it collapsed, including a picture of this little girl, 7yearold stella catarosi. She was found in the rubble along with her mother. Stella, 7 years old, the daughter of a Miami City firefighter. That firefighter we are told was on the site at the time that they foundi stella. He was not right there but was around that area, then they brought him over to that to see and to let him know about his daughter. She was also there along with her grandparents and their aunt. All of them still missing. They have confirmed that stella and her mother graciella perished in the rubble. Just the scale of the tragedy. Brian, youve been down there, you know it, but its tough to get your head around still every single day. Brian todd, thanks again for your great reporting. I want to bring in now dr. Richard moon. Hes an anesthesiologist, a professor at Duke University School of medicine and an expert on survival under extreme conditions. Dr. Moon, today makes more than nine days since that building collapsed. More than 120 people still accounted for. Everyone is obviously hopeful. But as you look through things and call on your experience, what are the chances that there are actually people still alive in that rubble . Well, generally speaking if somebody does not have water, they need to theyre going to lose about a liter to just over a liter of fluid per day, which needs to be replaced. If there is no water available, then they would reach a critical level of dehydration in about a week. Now, it may well be that there are some people within the building who have access to a bottle of water or two or maybe some collected water from drainage, which would allow them to live perhaps longer than the usual time where death may occur due to dehydration which is typically a week. I think that gets to my next question, which is you can go through some long disaster survivals that weve seen in the past. People have been alive for two weeks or more. In one case in haiti a man lived for nearly a month before being rescued after an earthquake in 2010. Obviously water is extraordinarily important. But what other conditions have to exist for this to even be a remote possibility at this point . Temperature is a big deal because under ideal circumstances where the temperature is comfortable, that loss of roughly 1,200 mls of water a day would be the number. But under hot conditions where theres greater perspiration or in the setting of somebody whos been injured and may be bleeding, then they would obviously not be able to survive for that long, for a week. I want to talk a little bit about the rescuers, the search teams. They have obviously had an arduous experience here, mentally taxing experience. Whats your sense of what they are going through mentally . Obviously theyre dealing with potential danger but also dealing with the mental element of finding those who have not survived. How are they kind of at this moment in time mentally and physically . I cant imagine what theyre going through right now. Its the toughest imaginable job in the world, looking for survivors. Of course because it is rubble and the potential is that if they were to shift something that a structure might collapse and, thereby injure or kill someone who might otherwise be alive, theyre having to pick through the rubble very carefully and that is prolonging the process. And real quick to Bottom Line this, weve heard from those in the rescue operation, even president Biden Allude to the fact that we understand that hope exists but things dont look great right now. Bottom line, what are the Odds Somebody is still alive in that wreckage . I would say fairly low at this point, although it may well be that some people, some persons in the rubble may have access to enough water to still be alive. One never knows. Hope certainly is out there but a very complicated and sdif situation. Dr. Moon, thank you for sharing your expertise on that. Coming up, as vaccinations ramp up, the nation very much reopening, americans flocking to the roads and to the skies. 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It does look like theres about 2. 2 Million people behind you. Polo, what are you seeing on this weekend . Reporter phil, as you see, it usually comes in waves, right . The big reminder is for those folks heading to the terminal and boarding planes, they have to keep those masks on because of that federal mask mandate. In terms of what we expect to see in the long run when everything is said and done, over 47 Million people according to aaa will have traveled to and from their destination over the Fourth Of July holiday. Just yesterday alone almost 2. 2 Million people were screened at checkpoints throughout the entire country here. Thats obviously a big Telling Number here. Not only is it a Pandemic Record but its higher than the same date back in 2019 so it speaks to that higher level of confidence that people have in terms of getting back into the skies. Now, when it comes to what were hearing from passengers, theres certainly some excitement. There certainly is some relief. Many people here traveling for the first time since the pandemic but at the same time theres also a big concern as our colleague reported. There are multiple national Air Carriers scaling back on some of their flights to try to keep up with that demand. In fact American Airlines reducing their flights by 1 to try to not only keep up with demand but also with some of the Staffing Shortages that theyre facing. Caught up with some passengers and found out that Thats Something that is really their biggest concern during this Pandemic Era travel. Take a listen. Yeah, so a lot of people on my plane, no empty seats. I dont know, were getting back to normal. Theres definitely an increase, you can see it on both the plane and trains. Seats are starting to fill out so thats how i see the increase in the growth. They are cancelling flights so i was nervous because i thought they would cancel our flight, there are about nine of us traveling today. Reporter that last woman you just heard from is at the counter right now, afraid that her Flight 34might be cancelled. In terms of people driving to their destinations, its going to come with a heavy price at the pump with gas at about the highest in seven years. Gas price is no joke. But also no Joke Walking into that plane and seeing all the seats are filled now. Still a little bit jarring after the last 15 months. Polo sandoval at lagaguardia, thanks so much as always. Nobody knows the ins and outs of the Travel Business like the man himself, the points guy, brian kelly. Brian, its pretty jam packed out there this Holiday Weekend at the airports, on the interstates. Airfares are high. Aaa says Gas Prices will hit a sevenyear high for independence day. My biggest question is did we forget that this is what its supposed to be like on July 4th weekend or is this year different or special in some way . July 4th is always a popular holiday, but this year people are traveling with a vengeance. Its kind of crazy to think a year ago were at three times the amount of tsa passengers. Over the last two Days Weve had more passengers than 2019 same day. So the issue here is the Labor Shortages at the airlines and hotels. You know, they are pfurloughed lot of employees. They are retired whole categories of planes. The airlines have been able to bring them back online or train their pilots quick enough. Thats why Weve Seen Hundreds of cancellations a week from some of the top carriers. Lets say you, and this is entirely a hypothetical and not something my wife is yelling at me about this morning, procrastinated making Summer Travel plans, havent made any arrangements yet. Where would you sending people thats open for tourists, they wont get stuck paying double or triple for everything like some people feel they are right now . The best deals are to europe. The eu is open to americans, especially vaccinated americans. Even if you havent been vaccinated, you can get a negative Test Or Show proof of recovery. Were seeing flights less than 500 round trip from most u. S. Cities to europe. While the Delta Variant is just a concern and just this Week Portugal put back an 11 00 p. M. Curfew, i have a lot of friends in europe right now and its unbelievable. Being at the louvre at the Mona Lisa with 20 other people. Its a Once In A Lifetime Opportunity to Explore Rome without the throngs of tourists. For those of us who have an appetite for risk and are willing to shift plans if needed, europe is the spot to go this summer, but certainly plenty of other places in the u. S. National parks. I know a lot of people with kids who arent vaccinated will hit the road. So as you mentioned, gas is up. Use apps like Gas Buddy to make sure you get the cheapest gas and be flexible with the days when you leave in order to get the best deal. Can i ask, what is your sense of the Covid Factor right now . Where the airlines, theyre sticking with the Mask Rule for now and its a federal mandate, but what about theme parks, resorts, those types of things. How does Covid Factor into those places . Its pretty much business as usual. Reporter Jean Sloan is on a royal Caribbean Ship and he said everyone is pretty normal. There have been a couple of small outbreaks. Most of those people had asymptomatic infections, its not the lockdowns that We Saw. So the rest of the world by no means is out of the woods. Certainly the u. S. Is not either, but in general domestically its pretty much business as usual. Hawaii even next week is starting to if youre vaccinated, you dont need to test negative. So if you are going to travel, i highly recommend getting vaccinated. You mentioned europe. I was just over in europe with the president on a trip and it was wild being over there. They almost acted like they hadnt seen americans in a long time and were happy to see americans again. Where are the other places overseas that you feel like travel is opportune . Other places in asia . Where are you looking besides here . Asia is pretty much closed. The Beach Resort of puket in thailand is open but you have to fly nonstop and its tbd there. It could close any time. Asia is pretty much closed for the rest of the year, australia closed. Africa is open. I went to are you Waungdrwanda December and it was beautiful. I was going to zimbabwe and theyre starting to do lockdowns, south africa. So as much as i love to travel and i want people to travel Around The World, you know, staying domestic, caribbean, mexico, or even to europe is what i recommend for now just because this Delta Variant is a real concern. Yeah. I mean its still so fluid. 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This was his framing. These are employment perks. These are you know, these are a corporate car, which everybody has. I guarantee you theres people on this network that has corporate cars and people in every company in the country that have corporate vehicles. This is what theyre going after. This isnt a criminal matter. Joining me now, Staff Writer for the atlantic, david frumm, former federal prosecutor, elliot williams. Elliot, so theyre acknowledging it. Yes. And i think President Trump did something similar in the statement that he put out there. Theyre saying its not a criminal matter, these are just perks. Youre a lawyer. Whats your take on that . First my take is dont confess fto a federal crime on national television. I would advise you not to do that if youre lirstening. Yes, these are perks. Company cars are perks. Your gym is a perk. Youve just got to pay taxes on it when its income. Theres a little complexity as to the corporate Car Question because mileage over when youre just driving for your personal benefit versus driving for work is taxed a littleweisselberg, y talking about 1. 76 million in untaxed income. That is a serious amounti. It brings liability to the company and the individual and its serious stuff and hes downplaying it. No question about it. David, you were tweeting at some point this week several Doj Press releases of people that had similar types of instances that were going to jail for very realtime. The former president doesnt really seem that worried, at least not publicly. You wrote a piece a couple of days ago and have a bit of a different sense of things. Why . You were reporting this morning about a small group of individuals who didnt believe that federal laws applied to them . Now we are talking about a different group of individuals who dont believe that federal laws apply to them and theyre about to discover that they do. Thank you. I tweeted you just go on the Doj Site and youll find lots of people who for amounts as little i found someone Who Add as little as 80 and got sentenced to prison time. So its a serious matter. There are a couple of things to say about this. One of the things that i take away, though, is obviously theres going to be more. Its not true that people who dont pay taxes on their private School Tuition are paying taxes on everything else. Some of the people some other people in the Trump Organization went to the same Private School as allen weisselbergs grandchildren. So there is this question about what you know, is this a warning from new York Prosecutors to the Trump Organization. Look, these methods are criminal and youd better start giving up what members of the family have done. Theres another thing thats sort of striking. Donald trump is supposedly worth, according he says, 2. 4 billion. So if you go to the forbes 400 list and look at the other people worth supposedly the same amount of money and you look up their cfos, who all have very distinguished records. Theyre not going to risk prison to save 900,000 in taxes over 15 years. And you realize the Trump Organization operates much more like a chain of crooked Dry Cleaning stores than it does a supposedly multi billion dollar business. What were going to discover is just what a smalltime cheesy operation the Trump Organization was with these lowgrade frauds that are so easy to catch once Law Enforcement begins to look. So youre looking at pictures right now live at a large Crowd Gathering before President Trumps rally in sarasota, florida, later this afternoon. Clearly no shocker here, former president supporters continue to support the former president. I dont know why that was ever a question based on the last five years. It was an interesting thing. They said this seems kind of small, it doesnt seem like a really big deal. But if thats how the company operates aptds the former president is atop the company, what is the legal risk here for former President Trump . People might be surprised by this, but there may not be legal risk by President Trump because there may have been documents for instance, documents put in front of him about faulty Tax Payments that he has no reason to believe are actually faulty Tax Payments, right . Lets put it this way almost in political terms. If the president ran his company similar to how he governed as president , he doesnt know whats happening at multiple levels down below him. Its entirely conceivable that you could not get him on criminal charges based on his knowledge at the time. It can be very hard to charge people. I think even We Saw this with Bill Cosby just a week ago. Even though the public may know something untoward or unlawful happened, ascribing liability to the person at the top of the chain can be difficult. Now, we know from the indictment that there are other individuals and executives who were involved in the scheme and also receiving payments. It just may not be Donald Trump. Obviously theres more to come, which is Something Somebody who is pretty familiar with the Trump Organization laid out. Former President Trumps attorney, michael cohen, weighed in on this. As you know, served prison time for actions he took while working for former President Trump. I want to play for you his take on this. What you have right now is allen Weisselbergs Head on the chopping block. And do you think that Donald Trump will protect him . If allen looks back at what happened to me, the answer is an emphatic no. What do you think about that . Well, clearly the purpose of this indictment done the way it is is to put pressure on weisselberg to give up Donald Trump for just the reasons that you said. Probably there is going to be very little paper. Donald trump famously destroyed paper. He famously operated in an elusive way. So the question is, was this a fraud on Donald Trump or did Donald Trump know . Weisselberg will be the witness to that one way or the other as there are other people in the organization. So prosecutors are putting him pressure on him to say tell us whether you had permission to do this. And he will decide at age i believe hes 78 does he want to spend the rest of his life in prison to protect family wealth, family interests, or does he want to avoid spending the rest of his life in prison and thats going to determine his behavior going forward. So far he has chosen the former but theres a lot more to come. David frumm, elliot williams, thank you very much for taking the time. Appreciate it. 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