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News that i want to talk to you about because you are an attorney. Talk to me about whats happening with weisselberg and the trump org. Because supposedly, this is over Tax Crimes in connection with an array of perks and benefits awarded to employees. Right. So, weisselberg is, supposedly, charged now. Indicted, i should say. And the Trump Organization. What gives . Whats going on . Indicted. Charged. Same thing. He is supposed to surrender himself tomorrow, is our reporting. Now, let me give you the plusminus on this. Okay . Here is the bad news for trump people. Okay . Weve never seen a former president connected to this kind of criminal prosecution. This is his company. It was just indicted for allegedcriminal behavior. More troubling is the man that they have fingered for this, weisselberg, now is in a jam. Because the only way out of it. He, obviously, couldnt convince them that they had the wrong guy or it wasnt worth what they think. He may be able to convince a jury otherwise. But if these benefits, illgotten gains, as prosecutors will call them, extended to his kids. And they can say to him, were going to charge your kids, mr. Weisselberg. And you are going to go away and so might they, unless Somebody Else knew. Somebody told you to do this. Then, you need to tell us. That can be very powerful medicine. Whats the minus . These charges. Any day in prison is a bad day. Dont get me wrong. But these are not heavyweight charges. Thats where i was going. Arent they going to say that most companies, most people, do this . Its not a chargeable offense. Why are you charging the the former president s company and the person who who Ran Or signed the checks . Are you treating him, any differently than you would treat anyone else if you looked at any company . They can but i dont think that gets you very far in a court of law. You dont like the president. You only know what you show. And if they show that the Tax Code was violated. Or that any statutes were violated. It doesnt matter how you feel about the violator. They violated the law. And now, its up to the jury to decide whether it meets the burden. And to a judge to figure out what the punishment is. So, i dont think that argument is very strong. The problem for prosecutors will be, you know, one, can they make the case against these people . Were putting an expectation they want to get trump. Thats politics. Thats media. We dont know that. They just want to go where the evidence lies. But if weisselberg, as barbara, longtime trump employee, said on the show tonight. He knew. He only did what they told him to do. If thats the case, we could see a former president of the united states indicted. I think thats the last word on that. We have lots of Breaking News. I wanted to clarify that with you because were going to be talking about that and other things, as well. I shall see you tomorrow. Thank you, my friend. Don lemon, i give you my legal advice for free because i love you. I appreciate your perspective and your legal advice. And that goes double. Thank you, sir. All right. I will see you soon. So thats the Breaking News. This is Don Lemon tonight. Obviously, i am Don Lemon. But there is thats one bit of our Breaking News. We have other Breaking News as it comes to this. As it comes to the insurrection and so on and so forth. Were going to talk about Bill Cosby, tonight. Bill cosby is a free man. And the women, who Accused Him, who spoke out about what they say the star, who was once known as americas dad, did to them. Many of whom, i have spoken with over the years. Well, they are shocked tonight. Wondering, how this could happen . He is back at his pennsylvania home, thanks to a surprise ruling from Pennsylvanias Supreme Court. Vacating his 2018 conviction for Sexual Assault. Cosby had been sentenced to uptoten years in a State Prison for drugging and sexually assaulting Andrea Constand at his home 14 years ago. He said nothing at a press conference, outside his home today. Just nodding his head, as his publicist called his victory for americans treated badly by the judicial system. Thats how his publicist described it. Cosby later tweeted that he has always maintained his innocence, and thanked his fans. Andrea constand, who, at the time, worked for temple university, was mentioned by cosby. Putting out a statement calling the decision, not only disappointing but, of concern. And that it may discourage those who seek justice for Sexual Assault in the criminaljustice system from reporting or participating in the prosecution of the assailant. Or may force the victim to choose between filing, either, criminal or civil action. Filing either a criminal or civil action. So, the fact is, the court didnt say cosbys accusers werent telling The Truth. They didnt say hes innocent, despite cosby cosbys claims. This was strictly procedural. B but it leaves so many women who publicly Accused Him of raping or assaulting them, at least 50 of them by cnns count, it leaves them in shock. It does. I talk with some of them back in 2014 and their stories are devastating. But i could not move. I couldnt respond. And i remember feeling something warm at the side of my leg. And when i woke up, i just had a the Hilton Hotel robe on and no clothes. Yeah. But before that, i had on clothes. It changed my whole life. And i got a piece of it back, and the only thing that i have left is to confront him. And i would love to see you in a court of law. I want to see you in a court of law. That way, i can see you Eye To eye. I want him to be the man he was when he took away my youth. And accept the woman i am now, and ready to take him on. I remember both times. I remember having one Bloody Mary topped with beer. As i have said, he called it a red eye. And i woke up, i dont know how long later, with him taking off my clothes. And you dont pass out from one, small drink. So, i am going to speak with you are going to hear, tonight, from those two women. Thats going to happen, in just a moment. So make sure you stay tuned. So, how exactly did this happen . Okay. Were going to go through it for. You according to the court, Thendistrict Attorney made a deal not to prosecute cosby for the indictment involving constand. Forcing him to testify under oath in a civil case. Years later, though, a different prosecutor used that testimony against cosby in his criminal trial. And who was that original District Attorney . A guy named bruce castor. Sound familiar . Wondering where you have heard that name before . Well, this might jog your memory. He is the guy who delivered a rambling defense, heavy on the rambling, light on the defense, of thenpresident in his secondimpeachment trial. When i was growing up, in suburban philadelphia, my parents were big fans of Senator Everett Durkson from illinois. And senator recorded a series of lectures that my parents had on a record. And we still know what records are, right . On the thing you put the needle down on. And you play it. Okay. Well, we have got a whole lot more to come on this over the next two hours. Make sure you stay tuned. We have also got a lot more on Breaking News tonight. Manhattan grand jury indicting the Trump Organization and its chieffinancial officer, allen weisselberg. That, according to people familiar with the matter. Those charges, expected to be unsealed tomorrow. We are going to be bringing you all the latest on that, as well. And there is the house the house that voted tonight to create a select committee to investigate the insurrection at the capitol on January 6th. The vote, to absolutely no ones surprise, almost entirely along party lines. Just two republicans, Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger, of course, voting with democrats to learn The Truth about what happened on one of the darkest days in american history. The rest of the gop, trying to sweep everything under the rug, as they have been doing lately. Just sweeping it, all, into a bigmemory hole. Just like senate republicans did last month. Claiming the select committee would be partisan, which is garbage. Gop deniers dont care about bipartisanship, at all. If they did, they would have voted for that independentbipartisan commission last month. You see, that commission had the name in it. Bipartisan. But they didnt vote for that. Republican sources telling cnn, they were embarrassed that some of the Police Officers who risked their lives defending the capitol were there to see their cowardice, today. One of those officers is a man that i have gotten to know very well. You have seen him on this show. He is a truthteller. It is Officer Michael Fanone. And he says that he is shocked, but not surprised, that 190 republicans voted no today. Hell be here, tonight, and you will want to know what he says. Youll want to hear it. So, hell be here. We have a jampacked two hours for you on all of this news. The Breaking News, on all of these subjects. So, lets get straight to the Bill Cosby released from prison today. Joining me now, two of cosbys accusers. Joan Tarsich And Shalane both join us. With them, her attorney. Hi, joan, how are you . Don, im fine. Joany and i have become friends over the years and i am so happy to have her here to discuss this. So, joany, Thank You. To see this conviction thrown out. Its i know it is daefb sta devastating to you but how are you feeling . A friend of mine called me from italy, this morning, and said did you hear the Bill Cosby news . And i said, what . And then, The New York Times came in over my phone. And i was shocked. I mean, you know, im i dont think prison helps anybody. I would have liked to have seen him in a grouptherapy session with men that have done the same thing. Thats what i think might have helped him, maybe. Yeah. You know . Hes in such hes got to say i didnt do it, i didnt do it, i didnt do it. You know, until his dying days, which probably is sooner than he might think. He didnt look good. So i mean, this was horrible, what happened to me. Im writing about it in my book. It was really horrific. It was a long time ago. And when i was writing about it, it brought feelings up. But and when i go back and do the rewrites, it will bring feelings up. But it was like 1970, 1969, i mean, i moved forward. I mean, you cant i feel that you cant keep living in the past. That you have to move forward. That you have to exercise things. From your life. And you Cant Stay there. You Cant Stay in the grief. You Cant Stay in the horror of things that happen to you. In your past. A lot of other, ugly things happened to me in my past. But im not there, anymore. I dont know whether that makes sense. People are probably going to say, no, no, no, he should be in jail. He should be, you know, strung up by his thumbs. What good is that going to do me . Well, i got to tell you, joan. I know, she feels different than that. You know, we remember the emotional testimony that you describe what you say happened to you when you were 17. You know, you said that you were drugged and assaulted. How do you feel . What do you think about that . I im overwhelmed. Go ahead. Im totally overwhelmed. When i got the call this morning, i felt like i was hit by a train. You know . He deserved because what he did was unjust. He is out on a technicality but that doesnt change the fact he is a predator. And all of us girls are, still, suffering. Some, more than others. But its its a travesty of justice to me. Yeah. Joan says shes moved beyond it. Its been tougher for you. Its been tougher for me. I go to counseling. I see a psychiatrist. Ive been seeing him for years. And its hard for me, every day. Its even hard, even being married and being woke after sleeping and i have nightmares of him, to this very day. And its hard on me. Chelan, when you addressed the court, you directly addressed Bill Cosby from The Stand and you said you remember, dont you, mr. Cosby . Do you still believe he remembers . Yes, i do. He looked directly at me. When i said my grandparents names, he looked up at me. And it just came out, as if they were saying it, themselves. And i knew he did and he smiled at me. So, i knew he recognized me. Uhhuh. Can i say something . Go ahead, joan. I think i dont know how many women he remembers. Because hes done this to so many people. I mean, i was in 1970. One woman came up that was earlier than that. I mean, hes probably been doing this since he was [ inaudible ]. He was a visitor in my home. My grandmother used to cook meals for him when he came to vegas. So, i know he remembers me. When i said my grandparents name, i knew he remembered me when he looked at me. A woman, whose house that you came to. You had all the children in my neighborhood enamored with him. Yes, he remembered me. Yeah. You know, thats thats not what im talking about. Im talking about the girls that he didnt just you were you were different. Yeah. Joan, chelan, i want you to stand by. Mark, as well. I am going to take a quick break. Okay . But when we come back, i want to get your reaction to Bill Cosby tweeting, today, that hes always maintained his innocence. How do you feel about that . Well talk to these two women and their Attorney One of their attorneys, tonight. Well be right back. Ahhh get out of here mouse. Ahhh dont flex your pecs. Terminix. You need an ecolab scientific clean here. And you need it here. And here. And here. Which is why the scientific expertise that helps Operating Rooms stay clean is now helping the places you go every day too. Seek a commitment to clean. 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When youre ready, well come to you, pay you on the spot and pick up your car, thats it. So ditch the old way of selling your car, and say hello to the new way at carvana. Bill cosby, a free man tonight. Released from prison after a stunning decision by Pennsylvanias Supreme Court overturning his sexualassault conviction. Ruling his dueprocess rights were violated. Back with me, now, cosby accusers, Joan Tarshis and, also, chelan lasha. Mark strucker is with us, as well. He is ms. Lashas attorney. So, again, its good to have all of you on. Um, chelan, let me start with you. I am thinking back to that powerful new York Magazine cover featuring 35 cosby accusers. Do you remember that cover . Yes. So, what do you what does today mean for women in other cases coming out, speaking out in the future . I think that we opened the world for everybody. As well as this has been painful, its been powerful. And im excited to be a part of all the fabulous women that ive met. And how weve stood strong, and bonded together. And how its brought others to bond together, to stand up for themselves, also. Mark, Thank You for sitting by, patiently. I want to bring you in, now. One thing the pennsylvania Supreme Court makes clear is that there can be no third cosby trial. The court says that the remedy here is to bar Anyfurther Prosecution of cosby in the Andrea Constand case. So, what is your message, tonight . Well, Thank You, don, for having me on. I would like to point out, as you pointed out at the top of the hour, that the Supreme Court of pennsylvania did not determine that mr. Cosby is innocent. It did not determine that mr. Cosby did not commit this act against Andrea Constand. Or against any of the other accusers. The court ruled on a procedural ground, that the State Of Pennsylvania is bound by the decision of a former prosecutor not to prosecute. And the court reasoned that mr. Cosby relied, to his detriment, on the public statements of that prosecutor, that he would not prosecute. And that, mr. Cosby, therefore, testified in civil cases, in a manner that incriminated himself. And so, the court held that it would be an injustice and a and a violation of his dueprocess rights to prosecute him, at this point. But that doesnt Say Anything about whether hes guilty or innocent. And i think thats an important fact for everyone to understand. Um, the silver lining, in my opinion, about this this disappointing decision is that there are a number of civil cases that have been on hold, while criminal charges were pending against mr. Cosby. Including, during this time that the criminal charges the criminal conviction was on appeal. And i believe that there is no more reason to keep those civil cases on hold, anymore, because mr. Cosby is now not facing criminal charges. Let me ask you, mark. Mark. Do you think that it makes the the the civil cases harder or easier to prove . Because, in the they can always say, look, my client was, you know, let out of prison. Or was convicted, wrongfully. Therefore, none of it stands. No one has said that hes listen. I know that you are saying that it doesnt say that cosby is not guilty or innocent, however the court decides. But also, can you say that he is that he has been proven, in a court of law, at this point . Well, hes he he was found guilty. Uhhuh. By the jury. He was found guilty and the Supreme Court did not determine that hes not guilty. They reversed his conviction, based on that reason that that i was mentioning earlier. That the State Of Pennsylvania is bound by the statements of the former prosecutor. I dont think that makes it harder for the civil cases to proceed. I think that the evidence against mr. Cosby is overwhelming. I believe my client. I believe the other accusers. I believe that the evidence is strong against him and i think that the civil cases have every every chance of prevailing. Yeah. Um, chelan, what do you want to say . Youre youre youre having a hard time. Its been hard. And to see him get away like that and everything he done to myself. He wronged a perfect, innocent girl. Im sorry. I apologize. Theres no need to apologize. Go on. I apologize. But, you know, god is on my side. Itll be all right. Joan . What do you want to say . I just feel very sad that she is still so affected by this. And it, you know it its a horrible thing. When people read my book and go into what he did to me, its going to shock some people. I cant really put it in detail. And i dont want to talk about it, now. But it was horrific. You know . I was unconscious for a day. I dont know. From, like, midnight one day, to noon the next day. And in that time, he brutalized me. And i was covered with blackandblue marks. They hear they hear my cat. They probably do. Meow. Anyway, yeah, its like, you know, more came back to me as i delved into writing my book. So, he did some pretty nasty stuff. What can i say . Hes really a sick you know, i dont know whether he is a sick man. I dont want to analyze him. But i just think that therapy for people who have issues, whoever they are, helps. As she can testify to. Yeah. You know, i im in therapy, now. I mean, i didnt even know that i had ptsd until five years ago. Yeah. So, you know, [ inaudible ] and get scared so i understand what you are saying. I really understand what youre saying. But, you know, i cannot judge my fellow man, even though my fellow man, you know, allegedly, did things to me. Well, joan, i appreciate you joining us. And sharing your feelings today. Chelan, i appreciate you sharing your feelings. Mark, as well. You guys, this is well continue to discuss this. Obviously, this is just it just happened. The Breaking News today. Im sure there will be much more discussion. Take care. Joan, ill ill text you or call you later, joan. Thank you. Be well. Thank you so much. Okay. Byebye to the cats and dogs, too, as well in the background. Everyone is working from home. Everyones zooming or skyping or what have you and thats what happens, real life. I appreciate all of them sharing how how they feel, this evening. So, another question for you. Is Bill Cosby free, all, because of a procedural issue, right . Laura coates is here. Shes going to break down everything for us. Was it the right decision . Was it the wrong decision . What this, all, means. Theres laura. After the break. [swords clashing] had enough . No. Arthritis. Here. New aspercreme arthritis. Full prescriptionstrength . Reduces inflammation . Thank the gods. Dont thank them too soon. Kick pain in the aspercreme. So whats going on . [dog] im a talking dog. Dont thank them too soon. The other issue. [dog] oh. Im scratching like crazy. Youve got some allergic itch with skin inflammation. 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[ Me And You by barry Louis Polisar ] Me And You just singing on the train Me And You listening to the rain Me And You we are the same Me And You have all the fame we need indeed, you and me are we Me And You singing in the park Me And You, were waiting for the dark okay. So, were back, now. Pennsylvanias Supreme Court throwing out Bill Cosbys sexualassault conviction. Ruling that prosecutors violated his dueprocess rights. The states highest court ordering his immediate release from prison, and barring Anyfuture Prosecution on the particular charges involved in this case. Lot to discuss, now. Cnn senior legal analyst, laura coates, here. Formerfederal prosecutor, by the way. Laura, Thank You very much. Um, explain this to us. Supreme court came to this decision saying that Bill Cosby they didnt say that he was innocent . No, they didnt. In fact, they never really reached no, they did not. They didnt reach that conclusion, at all. They didnt say they thought he should be acquitted. They said this trial never should have gone on because there was an earlier agreement not to prosecute. And that, earlier prosecutor, bruce castor, he didnt make it in his own, personal capacity. He, essentially, foreclosed it because he was doing it on behalf of the commonwealth of pennsylvania. And in doing so, it was the government that agreed not to prosecute Bill Cosby. And the court found that the later prosecutor could not simply undo what the government already agreed not to do because Bill Cosby had relied, to his detriment, and actually made statements that they were able to use as incriminating against him, later. It is a procedurallycorrect result. But naturally, you can imagine, the emotion in seeing the guests that you had on the show. Are but a drop in the bucket of all of the emotion that we are seeing come out and the visceral reaction because it had nothing to do with the actual trial. And what the jury found for guilt. Well, thats what i wanted to ask you. And you can make a distinction, right . There is a distinction. There is nuance, laura. That, what you what people believe cosby did was horrible. The you can feel for the victims, and understand how emotional and how they would feel about this. But then, also, agree that, procedure procedurally, it was the correct thing to do. Am i wrong with that . No, youre right. And that really is the moral conundrum for so many people. The idea of how and what happens in the in the system of justice doesnt always have what feels like just results. And thats really the problem here. Because again, it had nothing to do with what the jury found. The court, Supreme Court, did not say that there was, somehow, some procedural error in the trial. An issue with juror misconduct. They did not say that the government failed to even meet their burden of proof. What they said was it never should have gotten there because a Prosecutors Agreement should have been ironclad enough. It, essentially, enticed Bill Cosby not to or or to speak against his his Due Process interests, against his right against and was used against him later as expected but this was not the Supreme Court saying this man was innocent. I have a short time here left. I just want to ask you, is this the end of the road . Can can they overturn this . Or is this the end of the road for Andrea Constand . And can this be appealed and so on . Unfortunately, the only people to appeal it to is the united states Supreme Court and its unlikely they would take a case like this. Because the underlying facts of the case and the legal arguments, frankly, are not that complicated. But i will say, remember, other cases might not be time barred. Might be able to bring cases against Bill Cosby. But this one, these facts of this case, the Supreme Court said, it is the end of the road here. And for other accusers, you said it may not be time barred. And so, there may be there if they are not time barred, they could. If theyre not time barred. But again, a lot of the cases that have come up, the allegations, are things that predated even the allegations of Andrea Constand. Got it. Its really can have a chilling effect, frankly, on other victims of Sexual Assault. Thank you, laura. It needed explaining, you did it perfectly. We appreciate it. Thanks so much. So he defended captitol on January 6th and today, he was there, again, watching the House Vote to investigate the insurrection. Officer michael fanone. There he is. He tells us about it. Hes next. upbeat Pop Music in background throughout if your walls could talk. Theyd say. Help us. Today lets paint. Lets paint our houses. And our fancy doghouses. Its a fancy dog home. Right now, get incredible savings on behr marquee® paints. Starting at 39. 98. Theres no other snack like a planters cashew. 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Well, just two house republicans, Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger, joining Democrats Today in approving a select committee to investigate the january6th attack. After the Senate Gop blocked a bipartisan commission. Cheney releasing a statement saying, in part, here it is, and i quote. Since January 6th, the courage of my partys leaders has faded. But the threat to our republic has not. Our nation and the families of the brave lawenforcement officers who were injured defending us or died following the attack deserve answers. I believe the select committee is our only, remaining option. She is talking about heroes like d. C. Metropolitan Police Officer Officer Michael Fanone, who was brutally attacked. Assaulted and tased while protecting our capitol on January 6th. I got one easy. Officer fanone suffered Brain Injury and a heart attack. He was invited by House Speaker Nancy pelosi to attend todays vote on capitol hill. And he joins me, now. Mike, Thank You, sir. How are ya . Im hanging in there. Thanks for having me on. Only two republicans, just two, some of your colleagues who, also, defended the capitol on the 6th joined you back at the scene of the crime. And thats what it is. A scene of the crime. To witness the vote today. Gop sources tell our jamie gangel, a correspondent here, that they were embarrassed to see officers like you today. What were you thinking watching all of this unfold . Um, i mean, i was i was shocked but not surprised. That simple . That simple. Um, i mean, im done, like i dont know whatever excuses could be made for for the republican party, at this point. Theyve been given ample opportunities to, you know, to have an Exit Ramp from the previous administration. And theyve chose to embrace that administration. And doing so, on the backs of hundreds of Police Officers that responded to the insurrection, which was incited by that president and his supporters on January 6th. This is a party of supporting Law Enforcement, supposedly. Did it feel that way, today . Has it felt that way over the last weeks or months . Yeah, no, i mean, its been an Eyeopening Experience for me. Weve come a long way from the, you know, political rhetoric of the previous administration. Saying that the republican party is the party of law and order. And of supporting Law Enforcement. Not to say that, you know, any, particular Political Party embraces Law Enforcement or is supportive of law and order, unequivocally. But its clear, to me, now, that, you know, the republican party, as a whole, is not that. I have got to look to individual members to earn that the right to say that theyre supportive of Law Enforcement. And right now, 190 republicans did not earn that right. Uhhuh. Listen. Um, you were you were you able to talk to politicians who voted against this committee . Um, i mean, i had a meeting, last week, with but not today . Today . No, i did not have that opportunity. Yeah. But you spoke with Kevin Mccarthy last week . And tell us about that. Um, i mean, i dont know. Like, he was cordial. But hes you know, hes a good politician. He was very noncommittal as to some of the specific demands that i had or requests. I asked that he denounce the 21 house republicans that voted against the Gold Medal Bill to acknowledge and honor my coworkers, who responded to the january6th insurrection. I asked him to take this Special Committee seriously, and to appoint serious participants, not obstructionists. I, also, asked him to denounce andrew clydes statements regarding January 6th as being a normaltourist day. And also, to denounce the baseless Theory Or Conspiracy theory that, somehow, the fbi, the premiereinvestigative Law Enforcement agency in this country, was responsible for the january6th insurrection. Which was inspired by, and, you know, by the former president. Yeah. Listen. Were there people there who surprised you today . I understand you had some interesting encounters. Yeah. No. I mean, obviously, all my interactions with with Speaker Pelosi have been wonderful. Shes been incredibly supportive of me and my family. Um, i, also, had the opportunity to meet with ilhan omar. Which was an interesting interaction. I think she went there, initially, to speak with one of my colleagues from the Metropolitan Police department. Who was from the the same area that she grew up. Which i found to be, like, incredibly genuine and meaningful, for me. It was a big deal, for me, to to be able to bring those officers up on the hill. And have lawmakers express their appreciation to them, and show them how supported they are. But my interaction with with her was very unique. I think, when when i asked to shake her hand and she shook my hand, i told the press there that, you know, if they publish this photo, they need to put the headline up that hell has frozen over. Which which was obviously just poking fun at the fact that, you know, shes gotten a reputation, i think, of being antiLaw Enforcement. Which, you know, from some of the conversation i had with her, i found to be untrue. Um, and thats been true, really, across the board. I think, a lot of people who, you know, a lot of our lawmakers who are covered by certainmedia outlets are given a reputation. Or or a monicker that they are, you know, antiamerican or antiLaw Enforcement. And, again, like, i found that, you know, with my personal interactions, not to be the case. Yeah. Were going to talk to Officer Michael Fanone more about his meetings today. About what he is trying to do. Also, if hes possibly concerned about more violence with the Big Lie and the lie about the insurrection. Back, in a moment, with michael fanone. Well be right back. T out of he. Ahhh dont flex your pecs. Terminix. 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If i could be you and you could be me for just one hour if we could find a way to get inside each Others Mind if you could see you through my eyes instead of your ego i believe youd be surprised to see that youve been blind Walk A Mile In My Shoes Walk A Mile In My Shoes yeah before you abuse, criticize and accuse Walk A Mile In My Shoes Walk A Mile In My Shoes well before you abuse, criticize and accuse Walk A Mile In My Shoes back with me, d. C. Metropolitan police Officer Michael Fanone. Who defended the capitol on January 6th. Mike, would you like House Speaker Nancy pelosi to appoint Representatives Cheney and kinzinger to the committee . I mean to be honest with you, i wouldnt make recommendations to Speaker Pelosi as to how to conduct the Special Committee. I dont think thats my place. But i do think Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger would be well suited for that position. Well, not a recommendation. Would you like to see that . Do you think that would be helpful in your estimation . I do. Were Hearing Homeland Security officials are worried about more violence this summer. They warn that rightwing Conspiracy Theorists think the former president is going to be reinstated in august. Do you think people understand January 6th could happen again, theres a possibility with all these conspiracy theories, that people could be angry if in fact, or when that does not happen . It doesnt surprise me, again. You know, i feel like the republican party has been given ample opportunities to put this, you know, the rhetoric which led to the January 6 insurrection to bed, and they have deviated from that. You know, what i saw today was a lot of argument being made against the Special Committee, and the reason behind it was that we had already had multiple investigations into the January 6th investigation, including the criminal investigations. Well, you know, ive talked about that before. I think when you had Senator Klobuchar on. Those investigations were, you know, looked into the Security Failures and some of the, you know, Force Mobilization that day. I see that as a bandaid on a gunshot wound. If we dont address the root causes of the January 6th insurrection, that is to say that it was a political politically motivated event, Inspired By And Incited by the former president and his supporters, Directing Americans to attack the capitol building, if we dont address that, absolutely theres, you know, room for more political violence. Yeah. Hey, mike, i know that youre tired. As they say, down but not out. I think that you should continue to fight for what you want. Youre the leading voice on this, quite frankly, so i know that youre tired. I know that youre weary, just because i know you. But continue on. Soldier on, okay . Yeah, i mean, im not going anywhere. If you ask my bosses at mpd, they know im a persistent mfer. Im not going anywhere. 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