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Many people on the balconies. Theres no elevators. This is nothing. I mean, it almost resembles the Trade Center. More than he knew in the immediate trauma, a sense of dread, the number of people unaccounted for first became known and then grew. Especially in the smallest detail. One Official Today got choked up talking about a Birthday Card with butterflies found in the rubble. The card had blood on it. Its so wrong, he said. Yet even in the urgency of the dwindling time remaining to locate survivors, this and every newly uncovered item is being treated with the same kind of Tenderness And Reverence and care we all remember so well from what we saw at Ground Zero almost 20 years ago. The miamidade mayor says 210 people are working the site in 12hour shifts. We will be speaking to one of them shortly. Upwards of 3 Million pounds of concrete have been removed from the pile, but it is slow going. Tonight as weve been doing, in addition to reporting the latest on the search, we are focusing on two broad tracks. The forensic effort to determine what caused this along with the stories of those who survived, those who did not, and everyone still unaccounted for. Since we left you last night, the Death Toll has climbed by one, the name not given yet. 12 now dead, 149 unaccounted for. In addition, we have learned the names of three more victims. Marcus guara was 52 years old. According to local Station Wplg he moved in less than a year ago. Also identified, frank kleiman, 55. According to the Miami Herald he had just married ana ortiz, a single mother with an adult son with muscular dystrophy. Their bodies were identified earlier yesterday. Michael Altmans Son nicholas dells the Miami Herald his father was born in Costa Rica but moved here when i was 4. He was 50 years old. In a moment well be joined by the structural engineer hired by the city of surfside to investigate this collapse. First, though, cnn senior investigative correspondent Drew Griffin with the very latest on what we know tonight. Reporter as more lawsuits are being filed across South Florida in the deadly collapse of the Champlain Towers South condominium, there is more evidence residents, engineers and the Condo Board knew their building was deteriorating. A letter emailed on april 9, just three months ago, from the Skond Minutium Association Board President , warned the observable damage such as in the garage has gotten significantly worse since the initial inspection. That initial inspection in 2018, just three years ago, had determined failed waterproofing was causing major structural damage to the concrete structural slab below the Pool Deck and entrance drive. It led to a major assessment. 15 Million to repair years of damage. There was leaks in the garage. There was cracks on the balconies. So yes, you need the money to fix it. You know . But unfortunately, it was too late. Reporter Eric De Moura told cnn he received the letter in april, outlining how the Concrete Deterioration is accelerating. The Roof Situation got much worse. So extensive Roof Repairs had to be incorporated. The letter was helping homeowners to understand their share of the assessment, anywhere from 80,000 for a Onebedroom Condo up to 336,000 for the potenthouse unit. The bigger question remains why the maintenance on the building had been deferred for so long and how and why No One foresaw the potential for collapse, almost unheard of in a modern u. S. Building. Its extremely rare for a structure thats been standing for 40 years to all of a sudden collapse in this way, but im sure that forensically we structural engineers will figure out what happened and well get to the bottom of it. Reporter records show a Surfside Building Official had reviewed the 2018 report detailing major structural damage yet told residents it appears the building is in very good shape. The records made public show no sense of urgency to launch repairs as the Homeowners Association took three years to review inspections, hire engineers, and begin assessments to start work. An attorney for the Condo Board cautions patience. There is other buildings out there with Engineering Reports as they near their 40year certification that reveal more drastic spalling and pitting, delamination, rebar corrosion. We need to figure out what were all the factors that went into making this building fall. And Drew Griffin joins us now. Drew, there is word that a Florida Grand Jury will soon look into this tragedy. What does that mean, exactly . Is this a criminal investigation or just factfinding at this point . Its more factfinding. Katherine fernandez rundle, the State Attorney for miamidade county, is going to have this grand Jury Look ineverything about this to, as she says, potentially strengthen the laws, strengthen the codes, straighten the safeguards to prevent this from ever happening again, john. Very similar to what took place after Hurricane Andrew wiped out so much of the housing down in South Florida. But it did lead to regulations that have made a big difference after. Maybe the same thing could happen here. Drew griffin, thank you very much for that. Joining us now is Allyn Kilsheimer who brings enormous experience to bear as surfsides designated investigator. He was part of the 9 11 Pentagon Investigation as well as the bombing of the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City in 1995 and the world Trade Center bombing in 12993. Alan, thanks so much for being with us. When you look at whats left of this building, the huge pile of rubble, it can be overwhelming. So where do you even begin your investigation . The first thing you do is you take a look at what you see still standing in the air, and then you, to the extent its possible, you try to find structural drawings of the original design of the building, and then you begin at least what we do is make a little list in our head of all the things we can think of that might have caused this kind of problem. And then we begin doing materials testing, ground investigations, structural analysis of the design thats shown on the drawings. We look at the history of the buggs, exposure to hurricane winds, any stuff like that. As you do all that, the list you start with, lets say its 20 to 30 things, based on experience gets reduced. You have some things you could say, well, that isnt what caused it. What youre looking for is a trigger, because as you all said, this Building Sat here for 40 years and didnt come down until now. Something certainly allyn so the idea is essentially you look at all these things. You will find things that were wrong in the building because every building, just like when a doctor comes to look at you, he might be looking at one thing, but [ Audio Difficulty ] your own health. Long story short, as you go through all these analysis, you get rid of some of the things you can prove to yourself that are not a cause, and then you add more things as you go along. What youre looking for is youre looking for the Trigger Event. And then as you do that, you look and see, well, say we find four things that are not perfect which, like every building has that. This one thing, would it have still fallen down with the Trigger Event. You go through all the different combinations. When buildings weve looked at were hit by planes or bombs or things like that, you know what the Trigger Event was. Here you dont know what the Trigger Event is, and generally speaking, you cant get down to one particular cause unless you can prove that. Thats what well be doing over a long period of time. Sorry, allyn, there is a thunderstorm here, so your sound to me is going in and out. I didnt mean to interrupt you. You said you have as many as 30 different theories of what might have happened here. What are a few of them . You know, you go through looking for triggers, you know. This is just me thinking this, not any thought i have nothing that tells me that any of these were even possible, but you dont know, so you have to find out. Things like a Bomb Explosion [ awed Audio Difficulty ] things like that, a Trigger Kind of event. Foundations moving around more than a certain amount. All those things are Trigger Events. Sometimes buildings talk to you if you can listen to them, so what happens is its possible that slabs in the building were deflecting for long periods of time. That means spinning downward and nobody knew anything about it or didnt understand it. All those things can eventually lead to a problem. There are other issues that participated in the collapse. What you want to do is try to find the trigger. If you can hear me, allyn, youve obviously seen The Pictures in the Miami Herald from a Pool Contractor that showed spalling in the concrete, cracks in the concrete, water on the ground there. You know about the 2018 report that was done by the engineer. Does any of that raise red flags for you . [ Audio Difficulty ]. You know, while some of those things ive seen things like that in lots of buildings. The Bottom Line is you have this particular building, and a lot of buildings, you have the Building Tower and then the first floor and the Basement Stick out further than the tower in the plan, and thats where you have planters and driveways and stuff like that. So you have waterproofing on those things. Waterproofing only has a useful life and after some period of time, you have to replace it. The north building, i think, last year or the year before, if i understand it, replaced all their waterproofing, dug up their planters and landscaping and replaced all their waterproofing. The issue is when water gets into a crack, all concrete cracks, its made to crack. Water gets into a crack. In the north, you worry about it freezing and thawing, because when water freezes it expands and that makes the crack bigger. You also worry about [ Audio Difficulty ] then you can get rust in the reinforcing steel. When rust gets in the reinforcement steel, at first glance it might look like its really severe, but remember, its an expanded material. You take a Wire Brush and you brush off that rust and you might find you only lost a 16th of an inch of a Half Inch or 5 8 of an inch of a piece of rebar. Allyn . Zblm just seeing rusted reinforcing steel and just seeing cracks in spalls in limited areas doesnt mean that caused the collapse. It its a beginning. It will contribute, i understand. Incredibly thoroughly and youre just beginning. Allyn kilsheimer, i appreciate you joining us tonight talking to us about the investigation. Youre just getting started. Vast experience to bear. Thank you. Next, the mother who came home just in time to save her two childrens lives. This is such an amazing story of feeling something simply is not right and then acting on it. Later, the story thats emerging behind one of so many images that will not be forgotten. What we are learning about the woman who lived here and is unaccounted for tonight. You oughta customize your Car Insurance with liberty mutual, so you only pay for what you need. Oh um, doug can we talk about something other than work, its the weekend. Yeah, yeah. [ squawk ] hot dog or. Chicken . [ squawk ] only pay for what you need. Liberty. 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When technology is easier to use. Barriers dont stand a chance. Thats why well stop at nothing to deliver our technology asaservice. In all the heartache here, for all the questions that may never have answers and for Everything Weve yet to learn, there is this. And we couldnt be happier to bring it to you. A mother and her two children are safe tonight, and they might not have been. Sarah near was at home not long before the tower fell. Like seconds before the tower fell, along with her daughter hani, one of the two children that were there. Thank you both so much for being here with us. Sarah, i want people to understand how close this really was. It was late. Or early in the morning. 12 30. 12 40 in the morning. You were doing emails, and then you heard a sound. What happened . I just came from a party, like spiritual party, and it was 12 30 and it was a little bit noisy. My son and my daughter had been around me. So i didnt pay attention to the surrounding. So about 12 45 i went to take a shower and my son was busy, so suddenly it was quiet. I was sitting checking my emails and my messages and then i start to hear a knocking sound. Knock, knock here. Knock, knock. And i said okay, somebody probably hanging a pictures on the wall. And then it was more intense. I said oh, probably theyre doing some small renovation. And then suddenly around 1 10 i hear like a smash, the wall is collapsing. The wall above me. And i said wow, they are really doing major construction. I need to Take Care of this problem. It was already 1 10 in the morning. So it doesnt make sense. So i ran to the Security Guy that i live on the ground floor, so its first floor. So its really a wall separated between my apartment to the Security Guy. And i went to him and i said, do you hear these sounds . It doesnt make sense in the middle the night, early morning, people doing construction. So he said, yeah, i hear also these noises. I said, so what do you do about that . The minute i said, what do you do about it, there was a big boom and i was running to see where the sound came from. And i saw all the garage collapse. I couldnt believe it. I thought i am in a movie. I look again and i ran back to the hallway and i saw my two kids standing next to the door the entrance of of my apartment, and dont move. And i was screaming, its an earthquake. An earthquake. I was thinking very fast. I said its not construction, its an earthquake, and while i was running i told the Security Guy, call the police. Put the alarms so people will, you know, be aware about this. So when my daughter was looking at me, i said but im with my bathrobe. I said i dont care. Run as fast, as much as you can. She was running. With her brother. Toward the exit of the building. The Security Guy, he was shocked. I didnt know what to do. I said call the police. And he said but what is the address of this building . He didnt even know. He didnt know. He was so confused. And i said no, no. Right for me. And i told my son. And we ran out of the building. I told my kids run as fast as you can. Crossing the street. We crossed collins. We just crossed collins, god watch us, god was waiting for us to leave the building. And then another big boom and then we didnt see anything. It was suddenly quiet after the big boom and it was white clouds all over. And i thought im by myself in this world and were still running and i told my son call the police again, call the police again. And probably my son was looking. I didnt tell them to watch whats going on in the back but probably he looked and he saw the Building Collapse. But i say its an earthquake, we dont know where is the ground is safe. Run. And were still running and running. I couldnt breathe. I couldnt do anything. And i said, god help, god help. And i didnt know what to do. Wed been really running like three, four blocks away from this building. And then i said i need to breathe. So i said i need to knock on Somebodys House to help me. I couldnt do anything anymore. So my kids said mommy, its already late. Nobody will open the door. I said its an earthquake, people needs to know maybe to help us. Suddenly a guy came with his Big Dog looking at the window. And i said please open the door, i cannot breathe. He said no. Hani, when your mother when you heard the sounds and your mother tells you you have to go, what did you think was going on . I just in the beginning, because i was in the shower, i thought like in the beginning something was doing construction also. So i thought when i was going to go out of like the bathroom i was going to see inside the Living Room like planks of wood because maybe construction. I thought someone was doing damage into our apartment. And then i ran out and i see like just like white particles coming at me. And i was like this is not normal. So then i ran out of the apartment. Im with a robe and a towel. Like im not really going out in public like this. So like No One really thinks in the moment youre just like youre distraught, whats going on . Like things are just collapsing but you dont know, is the whole building about to collapse . You dont know whats going on. I know this is your first time back anywhere near the building. Just what does it feel like to be here . How great a miracle was. Its painful and scary because i see what really, really happened. And how many people, we dont know whats happened to them really. I dont want to say. We dont know. Again as i said how lucky weve been and thank God Whats happened. And weve really been saved from this trauma but we are still in trauma. The recovery, the pains of we and probably other people going through, you cannot even measure, you cannot really im speechless. I dont know what to tell you because when i entered this site over here i said the first time im very close, i didnt want to come, i didnt want to come close to that area even and its so much things im going through now. I know you feel that god is watching you and im so glad that you made it out. Im so glad you listened to your intuition. And for you, chani, listen to your mother. I think thats one of the lessons here. Im so glad youre well and i wish you the best going through this. I want to thank also god really help us and also all the crews are really helping. The community is amazing trying to help in any way it can do. Really i thank everybody thats here and trying to do their best. Thank you very much, both of you. Be well. Thank you. Next, the story behind one of the most indelible images of this tragedy and the woman who lived in this Apartment And Tonight is among the 149 still unaccounted for. Do you struggle to fall asleep and stay asleep . 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Reporter this was the view that drew Linda March to Champlain Tower South in surfside, florida. The 58yearold Lawyer left new York City in march and rented a wenthouse here just three months before the Condo Tower collapsed. Linda saw The Pictures. She absolutely fell in love with it. It was the penthouse level. It had balconies, it had a view of the water, and it was, you know, a building that had everything she wanted. So she was really, really excited about moving there. Reporter Penthouse Number 4. This is whats left of it today, one of the haunting images of the surfside Building Collapse. With the walls sheered off and the building ripped wide open, those Bunk Beds in Lindas Apartment are now teetering on the edge of the top floor. The pink and whiteflowered sheet and pillowcases remarkably still intact on the bottom bunk. For days many have wondered if children lived in that unit, but Lindas Friend tells me she rented it furnished and lived there alone. When cindy saw the Building Collapse on the news, she quickly compared the address to the Return Address on a Birthday Card linda had recently sent her. I matched it to the building, and my heart sunk. We just didnt know what to do. Were like we felt so helpless. Reporter cindy called her friend. No answer. Then she sent this text, asking her friend to make contact. Its your address, and im worried now. Every time i look at that picture we try to look up diagrams and, you know, Floor Fl plans and what if she was in this room, what if shes in another room. Theres a possibility if she slept on the couch in the Living Room. Were just all praying that, you know, maybe, just by the luck of god that she is in another room, that she somehow is somewhere else and not where, you know, the Shavedoff Part of the building is. Reporter Cindy Hinton has known Linda March for nearly 40 years and refuses to give up hope. Do you think she has the strength to survive something like this . You know, one thing we know about linda is shes strong. You know, even though she is 104 pounds and shes petite, shes one of the strongest people i know. And i know she can feel our vibe that were pulling for her. Come on, linda. We know you can pull through this. We keep the hope. Lindas friends describe her as intelligent, compassionate and the most generous person they know, always active and full of life, Riding Around Surfside on this bright pink bicycle. She got this new pink bike and we were laughing because it was just totally linda. Reporter so many questions amid the prayers theyll one day hear Linda March laugh again. She had a very infectious laugh. When you heard linda laughing, you couldnt Help But Laugh and laugh with her. There was so much goodness in her heart. An infectious laugh. Randi kaye joins us now. What about lindas family, randi . Have they been asked to give Dna Samples like i know so many families are . Well, john, its been a really difficult situation. Of course her friends dont want it to come down to dena identification. Thats the last thing they want. But it turns out that linda has no immediate family. Her sister passed away from cancer, her parents are gone. So theres no immediate family to offer dna. Her friends certainly cant give dna. He should has an exhusband. Shes divorced. He cant different dna. But ive learned just tonight that they have located an elderly uncle who spends much of his time in rome. In fact, linda went to visit him not so long ago. And he is now in touch with authorities. He has given a Dna Sample. So of course again they dont want it to come to that, they pray it doesnt but they do now have a Dna Sample to match to Linda March. John. Important developments. I mean, with so many people do want is closure here. Randi kaye, thank you so much. At this moment there are eight Search And Rescue units with another 18 requested from other states. For perspective now on their mission from eddie alarcon, a Search And Rescue Specialist And Capital Nn Miamidade Fire rescue. Captain, thank you so much for being with us. Thank you for what youre doing. Just so people know, you go to work at midnight tonight. This is before your shift. Youre about to go work for the entire night. So thank you for what youre doing. Whats the hardest part about this right now . Well, i think just the hardest part is, you know, the first day that we got here just seeing how devastating everything was. Its just i mean, were all trained to kind of maintain our composure and do our jobs the way were supposed to, but and im sorry, ive been working on very little sleep right now and its hard not to get emotional about this stuff. Its hard not to put yourself in that situation. You know. Not to put yourself in a position that these families are in. We start thinking about it in that way. What would i do. How hard are we going to work to save our Family Members if something like this were to happen . Youre there for the families. Yes, sir. What are you finding mostly . Its just so hard to i mean, unless youre there you dont understand how difficult this is. All i can say is i thank god for the support of my teammates, all the Rescue Specialists that are doing an amazing job. Ive never seen so many people come together. Im sorry. No, i get it. Its exhausting. Its physically exhausting. Its emotionally exhausting. You want to find people. Thats what you do. Youre a rescue coordinator. And thats not whats happening here. Is it just chunks of cement at this point . Listen, i can tell you that nOne Of Us have lost hope, because i know miracles happen and i believe in a higher power and i believe that if somebody is going to find them were going to make it happen and working together as best we can. We train for this kind of stuff all the time. You just pray you never have to use it. But i can tell you, like i said, weve got teams from all over the country, all over the world, working together with us and doing an amazing job and just being so supportive of Each Other and just looking out for Each Other. Walk me through what your shift is like. When you go on at midnight tonight, what will you be doing . Well start with a Briefing Theyll let us know what exactly happened the shift before. Then theyll put us in a Staging Area, forward Staging Area where theyll give us our assignment. Then well march up to that pile and start hammering away and cutting away in hopes that we can find somebody and hopefully you know, were always praying for somebody to be alive but at the very least to give some closure to the families that are waiting to hear from their loved ones. Have you had moments over the last several days where you thought you might get that miracle . All the time. We dont stop thinking that. Thats what we do. Any signs, any visible or physical signs, though . I personally havent seen any, but it doesnt mean that it cant happen. How long do you think this will go on at this point . Its hard to say. Its an enormous amount of work. It just seems endless. The pile seems endless. Were working Night And Day and we feel like were just barely scratching the surface. But i know were making a lot of progress. I know we are. You said you were trained for this. Did anything prepare you . When you walked on to that pile for the first time did anything prepare you for that . When i say were trained, i mean the specialties. Working with the tools and everything we do to try to move the debris. But nothing could ever prepare you for what we witnessed when we first got here. Theres just no way to describe it. If you could say something to the families who were waiting tonight, what do you want them to know . I just want them to know that were doing everything we can. Everything in our power, every single One Of Us who are here are doing everything in our power to bring somebody out alive or, like i said, just to bring some type of closure and to let them know were doing everything we can for them. Thats all. Listen, my friend, if they were here, i know they would thank you, and i know they would say they appreciate what youre doing. Please Take Care of yourself. I know youre working as hard as you possibly can, but Take Care of yourself in this also. Its not easy. Thank you. Eddy alarcon. Please give our best to everyone youre working with. I will. Thank you very much. Thank you, sir. Take care. Were going to have more on the Condo Collapse coming up. First some other major events making Headlines Today. A sharp spike in the spread of a virulent strain of the coronavirus here in the u. S. Dr. Sanjay gupta on the Delta Variant and the state of vaccinations in this country when 360 continues. Hi guys check out this side right here. Whatd you do . 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[ Me And You by barry Louis Polisar ] Me And You just singing on the train Me And You listening to the rain Me And You we are the same Me And You have all the fame we need indeed, you and me are we Me And You singing in the park Me And You, were waiting for the dark while were here in surfside, we want to take a moment to check on some of the other major Headlines Today including news on the rapid spread of the deadly Delta Variant of coronavirus. The Cdc Today reported the variant now accounts for an estimated 26 of cases in the united states. Variant concerns are now behind l. A. Countys decision to recommend masking inside when in public areas even for those vaccinated. Worldwide bangkok is reimposing restrictions. Also several cities in australia are in the middle of a Lockdown Due to the rise of this strain and a low local vaccination rate. Cnn chief medical Correspondent Dr. Sanjay gupta joins me now. Sanjay, terrific to see you. I want you to know everyone down here is still talking about how wonderful you were with them when you were here in surfside. I want to talk about the Delta Variant. 26 of covid cases now in the u. S. What does that mean . Put it in perspective. Were starting to get an idea of the trajectory of growth. This is not going to surprise you because you know this is a more transmissible variant. We can show you sort of the progress. It was a small percentage in the beginning. We were sort of keeping an eye on it. Over time the percentages have grown. And now 26 , as you say, that was roughly as of a week ago. Some models say it could be as high as 40 , john. In l. A. You were mentioning probably closer to 50 . At the same time the alpha, which was the u. K. Variant we were talking about that used to be the dominant strain here, is now no longer the dominant strain here. This is sort of expected because this is a more transmissible strain, this delta, its sort of crowding out, if you will, the other strains. The Wall Street Journal is reporting that some people in israel who were vaccinated with the pfizer vaccine, that they have become infected with the Delta Variant, infected. What exactly does that mean and is that alarming to you . Not necessarily. So these are these Breakthrough Infections which basically means youve been vaccinated, you got an infection anyway. A lot of times theyre found just on routine screening. People get screened for all sorts of different reasons. They feel fine, they have no symptoms, they get tested and theyre surprised to find out it comes back positive. That is a Breakthrough Infection. John, as weve talked about for so long, the real efficacy, effectiveness of these vaccines is in terms of preventing you from getting sick, needing to go to the hospital or dying. I think we have to keep a close eye on israel, and whats going to be really important is theyre around 60 vaccination, so a bit higher than we are in the united states. Do you start to see a corresponding increase of hospitalizations or evidence of severe illness . Were not really seeing that as of yet, and i hope that we dont and there is a good chance we wont because of what we know about the effectiveness of the vaccines. Let me just show you real quick because this is the good news that has held up in terms of the effectiveness of the vaccines. We have the graphic. Basically it shows that if youre looking at these vaccines whether its alpha, whether its the delta that were talking about, youre still getting really good protection against severe illness. Just keep in mind the Flu Vaccine in any given year, 40 , 50 , maybe 60 effective. Look at the numbers there. Much better. Much better. And just to be clear, in israel infected doesnt mean sick or hospitalized. Right now thats a very important distinction. L. A. County, where Health Officials are saying recommending, not requiring but recommending people wear masks, everyone, even vaccinated people, inside again. They want to better understand how and to who the Delta Variant is spreading, they say. What do you make of this decision . I think its the precautionary principle thats being applied here. They dont want to get caught behind here, not suggesting they will, but the cdc has not yet said, changed their recommendations. They still say if youre vaccinated, you dont need to wear a mask indoors. I think theres a couple things to keep in mind. A lot of times you might be walking into a situation where you simply dont know if people around you are vaccinated or unvaccinated. If you are vaccinated, you should still feel comfortable that you are well protected. Thats the good news. If you start to get increasingly transmissible variants, could you potentially be someone who gets a Breakthrough Infection . Still unlikely, but the chances go up as theres more and more of that virus spreading. I think what theyre talking about in l. A. And what the World Health Organization has said as well is that were not arguing the efficacy of the vaccines. What were talking about at this point is we want to Put The Fire Out of this pandemic. And the way that we do that is to really contain it strongly, which means for a period of time give this virus nowhere to go. Give it no suitable options. Even a vaccinated person who may be the product of a Breakthrough Infection, stop that from happening. Unvaccinated people, get vaccinated, and we can Put The Fire Out. Thats what theyre essentially saying. Getting vaccinated is still the best thing that everyone can do. Sanjay, super helpful. Thank you so much. Ahead, more on the Condo Collapse here in florida. 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Maricopa county, arizona says in their next election they wont re use any Voting Machines that have been in the hands of contractors running that audit in Maricopa County. They said the machines can pose a risk to free and fair elections after being subjected to inspection by a private firm called cyber ninjas. As for the Voting Count itself, no risk for wrong results, if you can call it that. However, there is a risk for possible violence whenever totals are released. For that cnns Kyung Lah who has been following this from the beginning. In the past america had such a good solution for dealing with such traitors. Execution. Reporter you are listening to a threat by defenders. Maricopa County Supervisor and republican Bill Gates tweeted his response to this video calling it hateful, dangerous, aberrant. This time of rhetoric is why at the Maricopa County Elections Department in downtown phoenix, democracy here braces for what may be coming. The monthslong socalled Arizona Audit is in its final hours on this coliseum floor. A Partisandriven Exercise reviewing Maricopa Countys 2020 ballots despite two previous audits that showed no evidence of widespread voter fraud. The republican State Senate promises it will release what it calls a report in the coming weeks as rhetoric grows more violent. It is why the Elections Building is being fenced by two layers. Weve seen attempted breaches before. Last november as we watched Election Workers counting the vote there has been a Security Situation. Reporter the Maricopa County Elections Department was suddenly surrounded. This Security Situation . Reporter a large mob was shouting to break into the elections center. You can see a long line of Law Enforcement, the Sheriffs Department and a very large crowd. Reporter a few sheriffs deputies were all that protected Election Workers as more scrambled to protect the vote. Maricopa County Sheriff Paul penzone. When you see that fence go up, what do you think . Symbolically i think its a slap in the face of everything we have been as a nation. Thats what we see in nations where there is civil unrest, no democracy and no respect for Each Other. Now its a necessity. Thats a sad statement. Reporter nearly six months after the insurrection at the u. S. Capitol, penzone says the release of a report gives extremists another rallying event. Like the lead up to january 6th. Arizona has been fueled by extreme anger. And disinformation. They want to know when the right time is so they can have that combustible moment. They want to know where its most impactful. Reporter are you getting a feeling of timing of when this should happen . No, and we should so we can Law Enforcement best prepare how to deal with potential escalation of violence. By not doing so, you are being reckless on behalf of the community. Reporter penzone says they have shared zero information on what to expect in the audit report. Hes left largely guessing, planning for the unexpected with federal agencies. Not an audit is whats happening there. Its performance art. It is largely a clown show. Reporter even if this Bamboo Hunting Uv light using lazy Susan Spinning Exercise appears ludicrous, says former department of security matt masterson, the experienced take this as truth. January 6 is the ultimate symbol of the rise of extremism, domestic extremism here in the united states, right, so it is if that can happen at the u. S. Capitol on the day that Election Results are scheduled to be certified, we all need to be aware that can happen anywhere and take the necessary precautions for sure. Reporter while arizona awaits the release of this socalled report, the rhetoric is not calming down. After some significant outrage, that oan personality tried to explain the threat but he did not apologize. Kyung lah, cnn, los angeles. Our thanks to kyung for that amazing reporting. 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John, i saw an area where Maintenance And Upkeep is kind of an obsession to people in the tower with the president and the vice president. We talked to both of them today. They showed us the garage, the roof and the Pool Deck. Its immaculate. Weve seen the garage like sunny Aisles Condominium and other places. At the garage in the North Tower, it was pristine. No cracks, no water, no exposed rebar. There was a Sump Pump down there that was brand new

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