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Reporter i talked to State Fire Marshal about this. He put it like this, he says the entire pile of rubble is divided into a grid so the piece of the building that you see behind me because this is a partial collapse, thats considered the alpha section. That was evacuated on thursday. 35 people were removed from that building. Then theres other sections of this grid and it includes bravo, charlie, delta. What these rescuers are doing, they are tunnelling. Some of them are under that Rubble Suring Up Areas and r risking their lives to go under there looking for voids and signs of life. There are other rescuers on top of that mound and they are delayering. They are peeling pieces, debris, con concrete, some of it is pulverized. Some of it is very large pieces of concrete that is very dangerous. You are talking about the weather moments ago. Thats one of the biggest Issues Baisz because rain makes the services very, very slippery. If you look at the actual Alpha Portion of the building, the building thats still standing, you will see theres mangled rebar and large pieces of debris. Thats one of the biggest concerns right now according to mayor of surfsize. He says its an area they have had to block off because of the dangers. Take a listen. There were issues with debris falling off the building. The westside of the pile had to be cordoned off because it was becoming dangerous to work there. I understand the work still continues from the sides and underneath but that area was cordoned off until they can get their arms around the debris thats falling down. Reporter because this collapse happened at 1 30 in the morning, they believe that most of the people were in their bedroom. They learned the bedroom had carpet. The bathrooms have tiling in this building. Up with of the things that the searchers are looking for is carpet. They are trying find and following the flooring to make sure they get to the areas hopefully with signs of life. I want to leave you with this because the Fire Marshal shared with us that they have been finding momentoes, including a Birthday Card that was very touching for the searchers and for the Fire Marshal as well. It had butterflies on it. It had plblood on it. The Fire Marshal tells us they are taking these personal items with a lot of care because for some of these Family Members, its the only thing that they have to remember their Loved Ones. Alison. Its just heartbreaking all of these fragments of life that they are finding. Thank you very much for being there for us. Now earlier today, florida governor met with the families of those who have died and who have still missing. This has turned upside down the worlds of a lot of really great people. Not only in this state but beyond. To hear the stories of the folks who are in the towers, who either passed away or missing, the amount of sympathy thats been pouring in is emblemmatic of some of the lives many of the people have been leading. They have touched people all across the world. Nick, its day six. What are the families saying today. Reporter they are not expecting to hear anything new at this point. Its something ive asked the mayor about if hes giving or local officials giving the community a false sense of hope by continuing to make this a Rescue Mission and not transitioning to a recovery mission. He believes, he says, that some of those still unaccounted for may have survived this. He keeps uses this comparison of bangladesh. Take a listen and hear what he had to say. One of the other questions by the Family Members is how long can people survive under the rubble which was an excellent question and there didnt seem to be a good answer to that. From May 2013 where a woman was pull frd the ruins of a factory in bangladesh 17 days after it collapsed. Nobody is giving up hope. Nobody is stopping. The work goes on full force. Reporter that comparison may not be applicable here. The nature of the collapse, the type of collapse. How it pancaked down. Not only that but the type of materials used in the design of this building are far different from whats used in bangladesh and places like haiti. We are now at day six where some Family Members are not waiting for officials to give them word as to whether or not their loved up withes are dead or alive. They have come to grips with never seeing their Family Members again. They are starting to lose. What is evident is the evolution of loss of hope. When we got here on thursday there was a strong Police Chief and teal feeling after the Teenager Boy was pulled that some sort of miracle would happen for. That miracle on day six has yet to happen. Alison. Maybe the miracles have all already happened. Nick, thank you so much for all of that context. Thats helpful. Were learning more about red flags raised. Less than three months ago the head of the Condo Association Board sent a Letter Warning that the structural damage in the building had gotten significantly worse since it was spelled out in that 2018 inspection report. The observable damage such as in the garage has gotten significantly worse. The Concrete Deterioration is accelerating. The letter says the damage could be found to be even worse once the work began. Quote, also, when performing any concrete restoration work its impossible know tex he Extent T the underlying rebar until the concrete is opened up. Oftentimes the damage is more extensive than can be determined by inspection of the surface. It conclude a lot of the work could have been done in years gone by. 36 Hours Pfr thursdays collapse another red flag. These photos were taken by a contractor who was there to service the pool. That carrontractor said he saw cracked concrete and standing water. Its still unclear if what we are seeing here contributed to the collapse. Its great to have both of you here. Stephanie, i want to pull those pictures up again. Those photos are really interesting. These were taken by a Pool Contractor whom you know. Are these red flags . Were talking about a Pool Contractor. Hes another structural engineer whom i know in the industry. The deterioration does look significant at that location. Thats at the Pool Maintenance Room thats not in the area where it collapsed. It is clear that water has been infiltrating the concrete deck to extensive corrosion at the underside of the slab or the element. Thats something we cannot investigate as engineers would you tell us removing these finishes. Stephanie, if you had been there and seen what was seen, would you have sounded the alarm . In that specific location, no. Its one isolated location where we have a photograph. One location further away from the collapse area. Thats not something that would be completely alarming to me. If that distress was observed throughout the entire structure. Thats the point where its extensive and it becomes concerning. Theres no View Say of the Pool Deck Area or Parking Garage areas showing just the extent of the deterioration. Jared, i want to bring you in because you through your job or no stranger to calamity. Obviously, youve seen devastation from hurricanes, from plane crashes but i understand that you liken this disaster to the parkland school shooting. How are they similar . First of all, thank you for having me. Obviously the news here is just completely devastating for this community. The similarlities are what the communities and families are going through. I was on the ground both here and in parkland and within hours of both events and the families waiting to find out information, not getting ting any updates. Families were in a Hotel Room for about ten hours. Started telling the family about where their children were. The families here now, most of them are going on six days at the family reunification center. I remember the scenes of what that was like in parkland and it brings back haunting images and so those are the similarities. When you have a disaster of this size affecting this many people and they are waiting for answers. The toll it takes on those individuals, the Mental Health that it takes onto volunteers, the firefighters, the Police Officers, the urban Search And Rescue folks here. The Florida Division of Emergency Management doing a great job. It brings back a lot of those experiences. To your point, 150 people are still missing. The number is staggering. They have Family Members who are desperate for any information at this point. As somebody who has dealt in so many different emergencies, how long do you think this will take . When do you think the families will have answers . I dont have a good answer for that either do the folks working here. They are working around the clock. This is the largest Eft Ofort o its kind. You have the urban Search And Rescue teams in state of florida. Ive never seen this amount of equipment at a site working. You have the federal government under director guthrie. You have the Miami Dade police department, Fire Department folks from all surrounding municipalities. The cfo and all of his folks. Everybody is working together doing what they can under the leadership of the governor. The president gave a declaration which is the first of its kind for an event like this. Every one is trying to get those families, those answers. Let me be clear, nothing thats going on now, you know, for families that have lost Loved Ones will heal those wounds. Those wounds will be there. This community is still not healed. Those families are still not healed. Theres a lot thats to come after this. They will be vigils, funerals. They will be grieving that goes on for a long time here in surfside. Absolutely. Stephanie, about the structure of this building. Im sure you now have read or know about the excerpts from this 2018 report that tried to sound the alarm that this building was deteriorating. As you know, after that there was this Condo Association Board meeting during which the Surfside Building Manager said something to the effect it was captured in the meetings. It appears the building was in very good shape. I know its probably too early to point fingers but who do you think should have acted on this . Who is responsible when a building starts deteriorating for making sure that Ka Acataste doesnt happen . Its up to the engineering to determine the extent of deterioration. More recommends the entrance that are showing distress. It is difficult at times working in the association of this. Its a big Price Tag for them. It tends to move slower. I do appreciate this inspection program. Doing further probes. Stephanie, jared, thank you very much for your expertise. Thank you. Well continue to follow the Breaking News from florida throughout the hour. President biden took his Infrastructure Pitch to wisconsin today. Progressive democrats, like our next guest were listening very closely. Well speak to congresswoman about the path forward, next. This may look like a regular movie night. But if youre a kid with diabetes, its more. Its the simple act of enjoying time with friends, knowing you understand your glucose levels. I dont just play someone brainy on tv im an actual neuroscientist. And i love the science behind Neuriva Plus. 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Com promo former President Obama just speaking out now about the dangers of misinformation. He warned that Speed And Prevalence of misinformation has increased in recent years and it worries him and should worry every one. His comment echo some of what he wrote and come as part of an appearance at the library conference. The degree to which misinformation is now dissemimated at Warp Speed in coordinated ways that we havent seen before and that the guardrails i thought were in place around many of our democratic institutions really depend on the two parties agreeing to those ground rule, those guardrails and one of them right now doesnt seem as committed as to in previous generations. That worries me. I think we should all be worried. Cnn chief Media Correspondent Bryan Stelter is here. Forgive me, but i feel like we know this. You and i deal with this every day of our lives. January 6th, look no further to the effects and the danger of misinformation than an insurrection on January 6th. What do you make . For a former president to address this in such blunt terms does speak to the crisis were in. This Information Crisis were in. We have Nod Hat a situation in our lives where a former president feels compelled to speak out the Way Obama has. Hes been doing this with a back last year and through public vents. Thoo hes trying dom up with way to be as blunt as he can be while preserving the dignity of a former president and the position that would entail. Time and time again he warns the biggest crisis in this country is were divided along information lines. We Cant Figure out way to communicate with each other. In this new comment hes siting the riot as the evidence of that. The riot of lies of January 6th. Hes saying the Republican Party has come unglued. What hes not presenting are solutions. You can identify the problem. You can identify whats gone wrong but its so much harder to get to the place of solutions. We dont see that in this presentation. Its also his classic Barack Obama Understatement of i would say one party is not as tethered to reality. This is hair on Fire Moment that i think you bring up. I think i fry to. We know this. Its getting really dangerous. I agree with you. I dont know what the solution is. Everything is being nationalized. Hes identified that as part of the problem. It gets the Media Business structures. Thats gets to way our media is funded and how its profitable to be polarized and fighting all the time. Hes pointed to those issues. Be solutions are structural. They are financial as well as psychological. I was just pointing out, they werent playing it on fox. The very crowd, the Maga Crowd that wants to hear about no more outsourcing. You dont need a College Degree to have a well paying job and they are not getting that information. They are so much more pessimistic about the economy. They may not be hearing the same information. Its so frustrating. Now we want to bring in one of the lead democrats fighting for Reconciliation Bill to go along with that bipartisan Infrastructure Deal that President Biden was talking about today. Congresswoman, great to see you. We covered President Bidens job plan today. He sounds very enthusiastic about it. Is it accurate to say that you will not support it unless its in tandem with that bigger Reconciliation Package of trillions more in other social programs . Its correct to say we will not support only the bipartisan package but were looking forward to supporting both the bipartisan package and the Reconciliation Package together. We have been clear about that for weeks now. Around full Climate Action. These are all Cry Priorities for us. We need to make sure the Reconciliation Package has 50 votes in the senate to move and then we are going to be delighted to vote for the two together. To be clear, you are willing to sacrifice the bipartisan Infrastructure Plan that President Biden talks quite enthusiastically about and put a lot of work in if you dont get it in tandem with the other . Yes. There arent the votes to just pass the bipartisan plan without the reconciliation plan. We have been clear about that. The speaker has now been clear about that. The Senate Majority Leader has been clear about that. We need to do them both. They both go together. I understand theres some people that want to do a bipartisan plan. We had a meeting with the White House. It was a very productive meeting. Im excited about what they have been able to negotiate into the bipartisan plan. We dont know all the contours. We still need to see those. At the same time, we need to pass the Reconciliation Package with 450 democratic votes. They have to go together. You had that meeting with the White House today. What is the upshot of it . What did they promise you . Well, it was just a very productive conversation for us to hear some more detail about how they are envisioning the two packages, about what is in the bipartisan package. That was very helpful to us because there are a number of priorities that are part of the jobs and families plan that are in the bipartisan package and that means we dont need to fund them through reconciliation. I think that was important for us to really understand and also to hear that the president is absolutely committed to doing both and, look, the president doesnt get to sign a bill unless we send him a bill. The speaker has been extremely clear on the same message that the Progressive Caucus had for six weeks now that there isnt going to be a bipartisan package unless there is a Reconciliation Package. Press reports suggest youre interested in additional 6 to 10 Trillion for these other social spending programs. Republicans say thats too much and some democrats say thats too much. Joe manchin said hes eyeing 2 Trillion for those things. Would you be willing to come down . The important thing to think about is what are the priorities we want to deliver on. We didnt come to the Number And Figure out what to do. We figured out what we wanted to provide and we came to the number. Thats what were doing again. If were funding something in the bipartisan deal, it doesnt need to be in the Reconciliation Package. Yen i want to make sure that people have universal Child Care and taking on Climate Action and addressing Essential Workers who are immigrants and that were investing in housing. Those are the five things. Now were going to look at whats already funded. What isnt funded that needs to go in reconciliation. The number will come out of that. Understood. Thank you very much. Thank you. 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I will be meeting with Subject Area Experts from multiple relevant fields from engineering to legal to construction, to development, to soil to Apology Geology so we can develop a set of recommendations for changes that need to be made at all steps in the Building Process to ensure a tragedy like there will never ever happen again. Tom foreman joins me now. Is this disaster making every one with Beach Front Property reassess their Home Structure . It should be because the proximity to the water absolutely has to be considered by the investigators. Here is some concerns that people have for Beach Front buildings in this country. Close to about 100 Million americans live in coastal communities. Rising Sea Levels is one of the concerns here. A researchers says he believes Sea Level has risen six to seven to eight inches over the past 40 years. Porous limestone soil level underneath. Think about it. When youre in this area you dont just drill down with a piling and hit granite. You do deep trying to find a firm footing for these buildings. The Ground Water is able to surge based on the tides. Theres a lot of movement. We heard a lot of talk about the question of movement below the soil by water and whether or not that was a contributing factor. Gradual settling because of erosion, sinking surfaces around here. Coastal areas are dynamic areas. The land itself is constantly changing. When we build towns and cities and put up buildings, we want them to be static. We want them to sit there and be fine. These areas are dynamic. Look at photographs in Miami Herald had days before this. An inspector down next to the building. He was talking about falling of the concrete. People talk about how much water could be found below this building, below the building next to it. Sometimes they didnt know where it came from. Sometimes from rain. Maybe sometimes from the water outside. They just didnt know. These are very dynamic areas where the environment it is changing all the time. That raises questions of corrosion based on salt air, Humidity Level its very different than building a house in the mountain and people have to think about that. Thank you for showing us all that. Up next, the u. S. State department is still fighting to get former u. S. Marine Trevor Reed out of a russian prison. Yesterday, a Moscow Court held up his nine year sentence. His parents will join us after this quick break. If youre 55 and up, tmobile has plans built just for you. Switch now and get 2 unlimited lines and 2 free smartphones. And now get netflix on us. Its all included with 2 lines for only 70 bucks only at tmobile. People everywhere living with Type 2 Diabetes are waking up to whats possible with rybelsus®. You are my sunshine my only sunshine. Rybelsus® works differently than any other Diabetes Pill to lower Blood Sugar in all 3 of these ways. Increases insulin. Decreases sugar. And slows food. 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Joining us now, Trevor Reeds Parents Joey and paula reed. Thank you both. Let me get your reaction to the congressman who just put out this tweet. Calling for the immediate release of Trevor Reed, a marine veteran who is being held as a political prisoner in russia. We will not tolerate putin using americans as political pawns. Your response, paula . Of course were very happy that that has passed. Weve been waiting for it for a little while. Were glad that it is out there and its passed. And i know that it will make Trevor Feel Great as well. Joy, tell me about yesterday, about the Court Decision Yesterday and where you were when you heard that the court had denied Trevors Appeal and what your reaction was. My reaction was a little different than my wifes. But we were expecting this, we had been told all along by the attorneys that no matter what defense we presented, we could have had A Thousand witnesses and he would have still been found guilty. And well have to appeal to the next level of court. We were a little surprised that judges actually fell asleep during the hearing. It was a twohour defense argument, and some of the judges actually fell asleep during the hearing. Not a good sign. Paula, what was your reaction . So, i expected it, like he said, they had told us it was going to happen. However, just having the finalization of it all hit me a little bit harder than i thought. And i had a very tearful morning. So. I understand, paula, i understand. Even though you know somethings coming when the news is delivered, it can still be crushing. Yes, was very crushing. And so, paula go ahead. Can i make a statement about the House Resolution that passed today . Yes. Wed like to thank Congressman Fluger and Congressman Mccall for introducing that bill and for all of the bipartisan support with the 57 cosponsors and everyone who voted for it today. I just want to say were hurt and ashamed of the 40something Congressman who voted against it. For some political statement they were making, i believe they gave President Putin a Gift Today in voting against this. And my sons a patriot, and especially those texas congressmen who voted against it, my sons an Eightgeneration Texan and an Eagle Scout and a veteran and he deserves more. Whats next now that this has been denied . Its my understanding that theyre preparing trevor to go to the labor camp prison. And this is it. So hell be going there. And until we can get him released, i guess thats where hell be. Were just hoping that the government can work quickly to make a deal of some sort to bring our Son Home to us because hes totally innocent and does not need to be there wasting his life. And, joey, lets talk about that. Because President Biden had said i wont walk away from this after he met with putin. And so what have the conversations been since that meeting . Well, we have a weekly meeting with the State Department. But Roger Carsons office, theyre not able to tell us any details of what might be going on. But not only did President Putin say that he was open to negotiations and he directed the Foreign Ministry to work with the State Department to come up with a resolution. But when President Biden said i wont walk away from this, we took that as being no man left behind. And so from both countries weve had good indications that this might have a good outcome hopefully in the near future. Paula, when we last spoke to you, you told victor that trevor was still having Chest Pains after he had come down with covid19 in prison. So how is he today . He is still having Chest Pains. He had a Visit Today from his girlfriend, and he said that he is still having Chest Pains, but obviously hes still pretty young and everything. Were just concerned. And he is at least now getting medical treatment to help l alleviate some of the symptoms. 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Alison kosik is cnns business correspondent. What is behind the shortage and how long will it last . Reporter hi, alisyn. So this is not a gas shortage. There is plenty of gas. The issue here is a labor shortage. Theres a shortage of drivers, of Tanker Truck drivers to take the refined gasoline from the terminals to Gas Stations like the one im standing at. This is an issue actually thats plagued the Trucking Industry for a while now. But were just noticing now because were getting out of our homes, all this pentup demand is getting us out of the house and were taking Summer Vacations and were looking for gas. What were seeing happen now is were seeing scattered outages happen across the country where Gas Stations arent being well supplied as before. So youre either running into Gas Stations maybe that dont have any gas or dont have a particular kind of gas like premium. But, remember, this is a scattered issue, its not something thats condensed into certain areas. The advice from experts they say dont top off your tank because that will certainly cause a gas supply shortage. Alisyn . The Worker Shortage has such a vast ripple effect. Thank you, alison kosik. So wherever you are this July 4th, join cnn to celebrate with a starstudded evening of music and fireworks. The fun begins on July 4th at 7 00 only on cnn. Thats great for places where your own fourth of July Celebration has been canceled like my town. So you will be able to join cnns celebration. And the lead with Jake Tapper starts right now. Sadness in surfside, florida, turning to frustration, even anger. The lead starts right now. Praying for a miracle might be all thats left on day six, crews are still risking their own lives in a desperate attempt to find survivors of the sudden Condo Collapse as families grow understandably frustrated and believe that the crews might not be moving fast enough. And theyre upset that Warning Signs mightve been ignored. 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