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Rescue teams discovering another Body Today in the rubble of the collapsed Condo Building in florida. 11 people now confirmed dead. 150 others remain unaccounted for. The Search And Rescue operation continuing at this hour. And also tonight, as President Biden calls for a federal investigation into the deadly collapse, the town of surfside, florida, hiring a structural engineer to begin examining the evidence to get to the bottom of the disaster. It turns out an Engineering Firm wrote a report on the building back in 2018 warning of Major Structural Damage, including significant cracks and breaks in the concrete and advising the Condo Association to make extensive and necessary repairs. Lets get to cnns Boris Sanchez in surfside, florida, live for us this evening. Boris, good evening to you. It has now been 117 hours since the surfside Condo Collapse. Search and Rescue Teams have been scrambling to find any survivors, but no ones been pulled out alive since thursday. So how are families dealing with this . Reporter don, its agonizing. Theyre in a state of excruciating limbo. Theyre anxiously awaiting any answers to a series of questions. What happened to their Loved Ones . Are there any Signs Of Life . Are there any survivors . And then theyre thinking about accountability as well. Could this have been prevented . What exactly caused this . Did someone know that something like this could happen . Is someone going to be held responsible . It is very difficult to move forward and begin the process of grieving when you dont know what actually happened to your Loved One and also when officials here are putting out a message of hope, trying to keep hopes alive. Part of that is the mayor of Miamidade County, Daniella Levine Cava continuously repeating the idea that this is still a Search And Rescue operation. She made that clear during a press briefing today. Listen. So we have people waiting and waiting and waiting for news that is excruciating. We have them coping with the news that they might not have their Loved Ones come out alive and still hope against hope that they will. Theyre learning that some of their Loved Ones will come out as body parts. I mean this is this is the kind of information that is just excruciating for everyone, and they know that were working around the clock on Search And Rescue efforts. Reporter now, the reason that Rescue Crews have this hope is because they have experienced dealing with situations like this in the past where they have been able to rescue people six, seven days after a collapse. So they dont want people to lose hope. But when you look at the odds and you look at these pictures, the families of 150 people right now witnessing this, facing staggering odds, its just impossible to put yourself in their shoes and understand the pain that theyre feeling right now, don. That is for certain. Boris, i have to ask you, i spoke with a commissioner earlier, Surfside Commissioner earlier in the 10 00 hour, and asked her about when will this turn into turn into a Recovery Effort rather than a Search And Rescue effort. She had no idea. Do you have any idea . Is anyone talking about that . Reporter no. I think officials here are being very delicate about making that distinction between a Rescue Effort and a Recovery Effort. They dont want to let these folks down. The Rescue Workers here, weve talked to officials over and over again about the stress that they must be feeling, braving the elements, risking their own lives to try to make a miracle real. They dont want to let these folks down. Theyre still working around the clock. Weve seen Heavy Machinery being moved in even at this hour. Despite that, at some point, this obviously will move into a phase of recovery. And obviously the implication there is that, you know, there are no Signs Of Life. There are no other survivors. They want to be very delicate about moving in that direction, and at this point they are pushing the fact that this is still a search and Recovery Effort and that these families should keep hope. Search and rescue. Thank you very much, boris. I appreciate that. Engineers are trying to figure out exactly what caused the Surfside Condo to collapse. It may take months to get the answer. But evidence of structural damage already piling up. Heres cnns drew griffin. Reporter as new evidence emerges of past inspections, cracks and potential danger, this short Surveillance Camera Video itself remains the best clue so far as to how and why the Champlain Tower South fell in what Forensic Engineer calls a clean collapse. There was a pancake effect, so it was almost symmetric and vertical. What that causes is the structure to come straight down instead of collapsing sideways or collapsing in any other trajectory, which would mean whatever caused it, which is unknown at this point, would have caused the structure to have a clean vertical collapse of those towers. Reporter but while engineers continue to speculate from afar, in reality the answer lies, like the victims, trapped under rubble. The 40yearold Structure was due for massive repairs. An alarming 2018 Inspection Report warned of abundant cracking in concrete columns and several instances of deteriorating rebar, especially on the Condos Pool Deck and in the Parking Structure Garage underneath the building. According to the report, failed waterproofing was causing Major Structural Damage to the concrete structural slabs below the Pool Deck and entrance drive. As dire as that may sound, several engineers cnn spoke with say the 2018 report did not foresee a catastrophic collapse, and minutes from the Condominium Board Meeting shows a Town Official told residents it appears the building is in very good shape. Champlain towers south was in the process of recertification. A Miamidade County government structural and electrical assessment of any building 40 years old. According to the condominium association attorney, the building had multiple inspections and was in the Proc Process of extensive work which would have cost 15 million. I saw things i typically see when were looking at buildings. I saw cracks in the stucco facade, deterioration of the concrete balconies, but those are all things that were accustomed to seeing and its why our job exists. Any cause for alarm in what you saw . What i saw, no. Reporter the lack of alarm is now sending chills through residents in other aging buildings along this beach and beyond. Spe inspections under way. Voluntary evacuations for the Champlain Towers Sister Building and a rush to find the answer to why this building just fell. Forensic engineers caution that answer could yet be months away. Drew griffin, cnn, atlanta. Drew, thank you so much for that. Urgent work is now happening at other buildings in florida to make sure they are not at risk of collapsing. Cnns Brian Todd had a chance to look at the new inspections under way. Reporter municipalities on the Florida Coast are scrambling tonight to make sure the kind of collapse that happened in surfside doesnt happen to them. Cnn got exclusive access to the reinspection and repairs going on at the Winston Towers Complex in sunny Isles Beach. We saw worried residents complaining about the red tape. We didnt get marching orders. Reporter there are seven buildings in this complex, each either the same age or older than the condo that collapsed in surfside, each more than 20 stories tall with at least 250 units in every building. Inspectors show us the damage inside the Parking Garage Right under the Pool Deck, a layout similar to the Champlain Towers complex. Similar design. Reporter the Pool Water drained for this repair. There are columns and concrete floors cracking. Rusted rebar and cables that support the concrete. Inspector Robert Condi looks at a Support Column that needs repair. When you look at this now, given what happened at champlain, how Big A concern is this. A big concern. Why . Because it could fail, and people could die. Reporter these inspectors emphasize this is normal Wear And Tear for buildings like this, and it doesnt mean the building is in imminent danger of collapse. Still, the work will have to be done to prevent a repeat of the surfside collapse. A contractor points to something hes concerned about. The chlorine from the pool has deteriorated the reinforcing and the Posttension Cable in these areas. Thats why we have a massive repair underneath this pool. Reporter sunny Isles Beach Vice Mayor points out if the owners of each unit who have to pay for the repairs. These buildings are up against a huge assessment potentially, up to 25,000 apiece. This is where our families live, our middle class, our working class, the people that are working in the restaurants, all the kids that go to the school, all the kids that would normally use this pool. These people are not in a situation where they are able to afford that kind of money. Reporter Brian Todd, cnn, sunny Isles Beach, florida. Joining me now is former Fdny Commissioner Thomas Van necessary. He was commissioner during the September 11th terror attacks. Commissioner, thank you for joining us here. We really appreciate you and the expertise that you have on such matters because you went through a Rescue And Recovery just like this for 9 11, just on a much bigger scale. The conditions for these rescuers are incredibly tough. What challenges are they facing as they look for these survivors . Well, the emotions being one. As the time goes by, it becomes really kind of depressing for them to have not found anybody and not even to find remains. Im surprised that they havent found more fatalities at least even if we havent been fortunate enough to find any survivors. Im hoping that its because a lot of those folks that we think are missing just went home. They live in another country and they havent contacted us for one reason or another. I just hope that not all 150 people and i doubt very much that theres that many people in that collapse. Thats my hope. But what the rescuers are running into now is the same thing we ran into on September 11th, as you say on a much smaller scale. If they rush, they are in danger of moving heavy pieces of Concrete Or Steel or too much fire, too much water, theres the potential of Drowning Somebody who might be caught down there and still alive. So theres so many ways that they can make it worse, exacerbate the situation that that person is in, waiting to be rescued. So they have to go slow, deliberate. Theres 250 people working on it right now. You cant have any more than that. They have heavy equipment trying to slowly move the extra heavy pieces of equipment, of Concrete And Steel. Theyre doing everything they possibly can as methodically and as professionally as possible. Lets talk about everything theyre doing and perhaps you can add to what youre saying because we have seen these huge cranes lifting giant slabs off of the rubble pile. Dogs have been looking for Signs Of Life, commissioner. Rescue teams have come in from israel and from mexico. How many different methods do these rescuers have to try to reach people who may be trapped here because theyve got a lot of resources. But still, as you said, they havent found a lot of people alive. They havent been able to remove a lot of the rubble here. So how many different methods and resources do they have . Well, the easiest way to do it would be just bringing in all the heavy equipment and just push all of that Concrete And Steel out of the way and look for remains of people that have died. But because they are still hoping that theres people alive, they dont want to move all that steel like that. They dont want it to shift. They dont want the weight to slide across on top of someone who might be alive. So theyre trying with all the latest technology. They have all kinds of electronic equipment. They have the dogs as you mentioned. Theres sonar. Theres so many new things that have come since September 11th that allow them to penetrate the steel without doing any damage. Theyve gotten equipment from nasa. Theyve had the sonar. Theres ways of listening to sound. They have Audio Equipment that they can hear any kind of movement, not necessarily the sound of a human, but the sound thats created by something that might give a hint to, you know, that someone might still be alive, or at least its a void that they should try to go to. Underneath that pile where you see a lot of men and women standing around or just moving slowly, theres people digging tunnels and trying to find crawling into holes that are really small and very dangerous because if it shifts, the rescuer can be crushed. So they shore it up as they go through it. Theres just and theres professional engineers and structural engineers, professional engineers, doctors on the scene, ems people ready to help anybody that needs it as quickly as possible. The urban Search And Rescue concept that has been developed since September 11th or probably since oklahoma city, theres probably 28 teams from around the country. I think florida has three of its own. That whole concept has been a phenomenal source of professionalism for all the rescues that are necessary throughout the country and throughout other countries also that weve gone to help. So lets talk about this because you said, you know, theyre going into holes and theyre moving stuff around. But even if they do find someone who is trapped, right, it still may not be easy or probably wont be easy getting to them. I mean that is a lot involved if they find someone who is trapped to try to move the Debris Or Rubble around in order to be able to get to them safely or get them out safely. Don, there is nothing easy about this whole operation. As you hear so many of your viewers are talking about, theyre not getting enough information. Theyre not getting this. Theyre not getting that. Its one of those situations where youre not going to its kind of a nowin. Until you find somebody and youre able to get them out, thats the only win. Everything else is just the inevitable time that you take to try to get to that point where a resolution. Even the resolution, we saw it on September 11th. The people are grieving. Theyre sad. Theyre crying. And then theyre angry. Theyll be angry at the inspectors or the people who didnt do what they should have done in their opinion over the course of time to maintain the building. Theyll be angry at the officials for not preventing this from happening. Its just a natural course of events, and theres no theres no solution to it. It has to just be played out, and its very sad, and people will criticize those that are making this valiant effort. But a lot of the criticism most of it in my opinion will not be valid. Commissioner von essen, thank you very much. We spent so much time with you during 9 11, and here we are again. We appreciate you joining us. Thank you. Youre welcome. For ways that you can help surfside Building Collapse victims, please go to cnn. Com impact. Cnn. Com impact. Its there on the bottom of your screen. So the northwest has never seen temperatures like this. 115 degrees in portland today. So hot that Power Cables melted, suspending service for the day. 107 degrees in seattle. Im going to ask governor Jay Inslee what the heck is going on. I wouldve called yesterday. But. I couldve called yesterday. But. I shouldve called yesterday, but. Wouldve, couldve, shouldve. We hear that a lot. Hi. Im jonathan, an insurance professional and manager here at colonial penn Life Insurance company. Sometimes, people put off calling about Life Insurance. Before you know it, another year has passed. And when they do call, they say, i wish id called sooner. Call right now for free information on the 9. 95 plan. Are you between age 50 and 85 . 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Seattle, washington, 107 degrees. Parts of Washington State reportedly even reaching 118 degrees, which the seattle national Weather Service says would tie the State Temperature Record from 1961 if that is confirmed. Its usually in the 70s at this time of year. I want to discuss now with washington governor Jay Inslee. Governor, wow, wow, wow. Good evening to you. Good evening. This is a lot to bear for people who are living in that area. Youve been a leader in the push to address the dangers of Climate Change. But did you ever expect to see seattle at 107 degrees in June 2021 . We knew this was going to happen some year. The science is very clear on this. I and so many others have been trying to arouse our nation to an effort against Climate Change. And now were here. The Opening Act has arrived. The climate catastrophe. Were getting it in the Pacific Northwest right now. I5, some lanes buckled. We had to shut down lanes of our interstate through seattle today. We had thousands of people without power as you pointed out. Sometimes lines just melted. But i think the important lesson for the Pacific Northwest is were getting ours tonight. But everybody is going to get it. Sea Level Rise in florida is going to flood people, and who knows what damage its going to cause. The tundra is melting in alaska where whole villages are melting into the tundra. California is just an explosive tinderbox that has gone off several times in the last several years. Everyones going to get hit by this climate catastrophe. Were facing it tonight, and it hurts. It stings. I hate to think of people having Heatstroke Tonight and people drowning who have been trying to escape the heat. Thats why im very hopeful that congress will finally act and pass a Reconciliation Bill that will tackle Climate Change. Yeah. I got to tell you people in your state, really a lot of people arent used to it wherever you are. People in your State Arent used to this type of heat. Seattle is the least airconditioned Metro Area in the country. Only 44 of homes have a. C. Are you there . Did you lose the earpiece . I think his earpiece fell out. Governor, if you can hear me, if your earpiece is back in yeah. Okay. So we lost him. But, again, this Heat Wave very serious. Look at the temperatures. 300plus they think records will be set in the coming days because of the heat. Youve got roads buckling and electric lines melting in a place thats usually 70 degrees right now. Now its in the hund100s, in th 90s. Look at this seattle streetcar. This is from twitter, but this is an electric line melting. So there we go. More to come on this and more right after this break. You know, im glad that you got your credit sorted with extracredit, but isnt this a little much . Too much . Is mastering every aspect of my credit too much . No, but its like A Hundred degrees out here. I mean, arent you hot . Extracredit, the most comprehensive Credit Solution ever created. 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Let me ask again. You bet. We were talking about the record temperatures in your state and the lack of airconditioning there. Only 44 of homes in seattle have a. C. So what are residents doing to keep safe . Well, trying to help each other, of course. Neighbors are helping neighbors. We have opened up quite a number of cooling centers. Weve expanded our capacity. We had covid restrictions on capacity in some of these centers, but weve set those aside so we can get more people into cooling centers. People are trying to get in the water physically, and unfortunately weve had several drownings in part as a result. So were doing what we can do. But i think the fact is, though, is look, this problem of Climate Change can be solved by air conditioners. It would be like sort of trying to win World War ii with Air Raid bunkers. We have to attack the source of this problem because this climate is changing so fast in my state, it is hurting the fundamental aspects of our culture and our economy. I talked to a Couple Farmers here. They are just terror stricken theyre going to lose their crop this year because of this heat. The forest Products Industry is suffering because of forest fires. Our shellfish industry, weve not been able to grow Baby Oysters in Puget Sound without treating the water because of ocean acidification. You Cant Run from Climate Change. You have to challenge it and defeat it, which means building a clean energy economy. Im proud of my state. Weve now adopted the most ambitious, the most aggressive, the most robust Climate Change, clean energy, jobcreating programs in the united states. Its a model for the rest of the country. We need congress to adopt the same measures we have in our state. Is this part of infrastructure because, look, are you dealing with Rolling Blackouts and all that stuff because that happens. We are. Im wondering if we should start tackling if people should start tackling this maybe with some infrastructure or this new whatever theyre trying to do with infrastructure. Yes. We need to make our grid more robust. We need to make sure new energy can be tied into it. But since you mentioned infrastructure, there is a danger right now in our Nations Capital if we only do roads and bridges and we dont do clean cars and clean electrical Grid And Energy efficiency in our buildings, it would have been an enormous opportunity, really our last opportunity squandered to save ourselves. So this is very imperative that congress and the president Buckle Down and make sure that if this bipartisan Infrastructure Deal goes through, a Reconciliation Bill also goes through that will be a real climate bill. And ive heard some senators say no climate, no deal. I think thats an appropriate approach. We have to have in this Infrastructure Package Ore Reconciliation Package or both, a meaningful strong climate proposal to get on top of this problem. It is absolutely imperative, and we all ought to be talks to our members of congress about this subject. Listen, i know it sounds trite, but stay cool. We appreciate you joining us. No, im serious. Look, i grew up in louisiana. Its hot as hell in august, and its humid. I cant imagine when its dry and you guys arent used to that. Were used to that. We were built for that. This is not a June Deal in the evergreen state, right . This is a whole different deal. Its a whole nother show. We got to get on top of it. Thank you, governor. I want to turn now to Former Attorney general Bill Barr. He said he suspected that former president trumps claims of widespread Election Fraud were and these are his words all b. S. The former a. G. Also says that hes not aware of any discrepancies in the 2020 election. I want you to listen what he told Abc News Chief Washington Correspondent jonathan karl. Here it is. If i found something, i had no motive to suppress it. But my suspicion all the way along was that there was nothing there. It was [ bleep ]. You can tell me all you want to about this could have been hacked or whatever, but its a counting machine, and we saved everything that was counted. So you just reconcile the two. Theres a pile right there. How many ballots . A thousand. Right. Now lets see who theyre for. Theres been no discrepancy reported anywhere thats looked at that. Im still not aware of any discrepancy. And thats it. Thank you, guys, for joining us. Good night. [ laughter ] theres John Avlon and elie honig. Elie honig wrote the book called hatchet man. I mean, elie, he said it. I mean youre not but youre not buying what barr is selling. Why . Heres a question i would have liked to ask Bill Barr if i had a chance to sit down with him, which by the way, don, he declined to sit with me several times for my book. Okay, mr. Former Attorney General. You knew this was all b. S. Why did you embrace it for months leading up to the election when the public was still impressionable . Why did you go on Npr And Lie so that npr after the interview had to issue an article. Why did you go in front of Congress And Lie about the Big Lie . Why did you come on Cnn And Lie to Wolf Blitzer about the Big Lie . This is Spin Control by Bill Barr, but its not even effective because its so easy to refute the nonsense hes trying to put out now. Why didnt he do it when he actually had a bigger megaphone, and now it is over. John, Barr First well, he first finally admitted there was no widespread Election Fraud right before he resigned. After that, Jon Karl reports that the former president yelled at barr, saying, you must hate trump. Third person. Yeah, refers to himself in the third person. Is that more proof that trump saw the Attorney General as his own personal attorney . He didnt understand what an actual Attorney General was, and barr certainly, you know, obliged in that. Yeah, of course. I mean, you know, he saw the Attorney General as his own personal lawyer, the Justice Department as his own team of Hatchet Men as elie says, his military as my generals. You know, you take a step back here, and what you see and how history is going to record this is we had a mad king for a time who tried to overthrow an election in the united states of america. And there was a cult of personality around him being enabled by people like his Chief Of Staff who tried to aid that effort. Whether its a Rehab Tour or not, we need the full truth to come out. We need to confront people with that truth consistently because there can be no compromise with lies, and thats what theyve been peddling for too long. Even if its a Rehab Tour conversion, ill take it only to confront folks with the truth, without absolving them for the lies that some of these folk dollars when they were in office at the trumps behest. Lies . What are you talking about lies . People lied in the Trump Administration . Shocking. Come on now. John, theres new reporting also from the wall street journal, michael benders new book obtained by axios. His reporting says that trump wanted to invoke the Insurrection Act to put general Mark Milley in charge of a Military Campaign inside the country to suppress last summers racial justice protests. Trump yelled at milley that he was, quote, fing in charge, and milley fired back that he was not. Trump has denied to axios, duh, that happened. But what does this new reporting tell us . Trump denied that he and his aides were discussing the insurrection at the time, which just shows how seriously to treat any Denial But Donald trump at any point. Its one more sign of how serious what was going on behind the scenes was all throughout the election year. A president of the united states calling for invoking the Insurrection Act to crack down on peaceful protesters and has to be lectured by the Joint Chiefs Of Staff to say, there are a bunch of lawyers in this room. Why dont you tell him what i can do under the law and what i cant . You know, we had a president who wanted to deploy the u. S. Military illegally to, quote, crack the skulls of peaceful protesters in the streets of america. Yeah. Listen, elie, the former President Barack Obama is talking about future elections and attempts to overturn them. He is sounding the alarm, saying, you know, whats going to happen. What do you think could happen in 2024, 2022, and beyond if, you know, these laws that are in 22 states excuse me, these 22 sets of laws that have been enacted in states where legislatures can overturn the election or give it to whatever candidate they think it right, that they want to win what happens . Its really important that former President Obama is drawing attention to this issue because its really dire when it comes to our fundamental rights to vote. I mean theres only really two ways to combat, to fight back against these restrictive state laws. One is congress, the united States Senate and house. Theyre not going to have their act together. Theyre not going to overcome the filibuster. Democrats dont have the numbers. Democrats dont have the willpower. I think its foolhardy to count on that. The other key is going to be through the courts, through litigation. This past week we saw the Justice Department announce that it would be filing suit against the georgia legislation. Now, thats really important, and i think it signals that doj has changed course and that theyll be challenging some of these other states, but also understand thats an uphill climb. Doj has to show there was purposeful discrimination behind these lawsuits. Now, they do a good job in the complaint, but again you dont have anybody out there saying, hey, lets pass these laws so we can discriminate. You have to look at the stats, read between the lines. Its really important that doj is taking up this fight. My goodness, every Election Cant be like this one. This is going to be nuts. I dont know if i have the stomach for it. Thank you, gentlemen. I appreciate it. Be well. A 2018 report said that there was, quote, Major Structural Damage. Three years later, the building is a pile of rubble right now. Were going to look at what could have caused it. Thats next. Plus the nfl comes out during Pride Month. The nfl comes out during Pride Month. Im going to explain. You got to see their new ad. 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More from cnns tom foreman. Tom . Reporter hey, don. All eyes are focused on this 2018 Inspection And Report about this property, which found Major Structural Damage and abundant cracking and spauling of the concrete. This is a term that some people refer to as concrete cancer. It happens a lot in Human Environments and salty environments and theres a lot of concern about it. Beyond that, there is concern about Water Seals on the building, the failed Water Proofing is causing Major Structural Damage to the concrete structural slab before these areas. Failure to replace the waterproofing in the near future will cause the extent of the Concrete Deterioration to expand exponentially. Again, a reference to that concrete cancer people talk about there. How much would it cost to have done the repairs . Just over 9 Million in 2018, and yet that same year there was a meeting with people tied to the condo in which the official says it appears the building was in good shape. A lot of questions about why that was said, what the reaction was to it in light of this report being out there. There have also been concerns, an email about the nearby construction. Some people in the building saying they felt shaking in their building which alarmed them. Weve heard reports of creaks in the building. Does any of that prove that any of this had anything to do with the collapse . No, it does not. But these are things that absolutely have to be looked at closely by investigators. Don. Right on. Tom foreman, thank you so much. I want to bring in now a professor of Structural Engineering at drexel university. Thank you for joining us, professor. I really appreciate it. You took a look at this 2018 building Inspection Report that raised concerns about Major Structural Damage to the Concrete Slab below the Pool Deck and cracking and crumbling of the columns, beams, walls of the parking garage. Professor, when you hear that, does this offer clues as to why this building came down . The clue it offers is that the engineers should have been given access to check the interior of the building, the slab to Column Connections, which he never had that access for some reason. It showed that deterioration was going on, but he did not check the main towers and check the Slab Column connections. This building is a flat slab construction. So Punch And Shear, where the Column Punches through the slab, thats a common Failure Mechanism for these types of structures. If he had been given access to check those Column Connections to the slab, we would have known whether those were badly deteriorated and whether Punch And Shear was going to be an imminent Failure Mechanism for this structure because the tower that came down, came down on itself. Mmhmm. Its almost like a controlled demolition. You know, there are several ways that can happen. The column could have failed. Punch and shear could have happened. The foundation could have given way. We also need to check the original design. Was this structure well designed . Folks might say that the building has been standing for 40 years. Well, so was the i35 bridge. It stood for 50 years and collapsed. So those are the things that i would check. This Engineers Report was crying out for more investigation into the building in 2018. Professor, you know, youre right about the bridge, and youre right about as we looked at that video, we saw the video of this structure, this Condo Collapse and pancake, as you said, almost like a controlled demolition. So when you see the images, the before and after, what stands out to you . What stands out to me is that, like i said, i mentioned those, you know, three possible Failure Scenarios that could have caused the Center Portion to collapse. The thing that stood out to me was the east segment. The east segment of the structure, you know, was looking for bracing, was looking for some lateral bracing. It had none because there was only one wall in the North South Segment in that Northeast Segment of the structure. Had there been more walls in the east West Direction and in the north South Direction in that segment, we might have been able to at least rescue some people and have that standing for a while. Thats the thing that stands out to me. The walls in this structure, what we call the shear walls that are there to resist lateral loads, especially in the east West Direction, i feel there should have been more of those. Thank you, professor. I appreciate you joining us. Youre welcome. So the nfl topping off Pride Month by coming out. Thats next. Tony here from creditrepair. Com taking to the streets to talk about credit. Can you repair your credit yourself . Yes. Great. How . Uhhh. How long does Credit Repair take . I dont know, like 10 years. What . Are you insane . 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