Called what happened here a, quote, third world phenomenon. And my colleague, cnns wolf blitzer, is on this heartbreaking scene for us. Wolf, what are you seeing on your end . Reporter it is heartbreaking indeed, jim. We have learned just a little while ago that Family Members, Family Members of the victims were actually bused into a site for a private visit, many of them still servarching for answers, not knowing if their Loved Ones are among those lost in the rubble. Theyre praying and hoping. Floridas governor now sayS Pieces of debris are being taken to a nearby warehouse so they can be forensically analyzed. Cnns Brian Todd and cnns Randi Kaye join us. Brian, i know the Search And Rescue process is very tedious and methodical. Help us better appreciate how theyre trying to locate survivors. Reporter wolf, tedious and methodical describe it, dangerous also describes it, exhausting also describes the process. Weve been getting information throughout the day how this is unfolding at the rescue site. Were told by local officials as many as 200 rescuers at any given moment are on the rubble, inside the rubble, digging, pulling stuff off, tunnelling through. One fire was burning for days that they couldnt even locate for at least a couple of days. Were told this morning that fire has contained. Its not clear if that fire is actually out yet. Thats another complication. Again, that makes the situation all the more dangerous for these rescuers. They have to deal with a fire that theyve had trouble locating, which is causing Smoke And Debris and haze and particles to float around, all of that very dangerous work. The trench that weve been talking about, thats a key component, because it seems that that trench, wolf, that has been dug over the last couple of days, which is massive now, that trench has yielded some discoveries. The Fire Chief for Miamidade County talked about the trench. Its about 125 feet long, 40 feet deep, several pfeet wide. He described the trench, take a listen. Its horrific. Its one of the most difficult collapses to deal with, the operation of what were seeing. Its just an extremely difficult situation. The type of debris, unfortunately, that were coming across, this is tough to describe. Its just we dont have the voids that we would be hoping for, things that were Looking for. Not that theyre were still Looking. Thats what i mean by horrific. Its a very difficult, difficult situation. Reporter and that piece of information, that theyre not finding the voids they had hoped for, that is critical information. Thats not good news. If they cant find voids, wolf, theyll have a tough time finding people alive. Thank you, brian, well get back you to shortly. Randi kaye is at the jewish Community Center here. Randi, what are you seeing and hearing . Reporter there is a large Prayer Service under way, wolf, at the synagogue behind me, The Shule of bal harbour. We spoke with the rabbi, he wants this to be a service for the whole community, not just the jewish community, which is a very large community. But he wants it to be open to all faiths, to honor victims in this case, their families, so they can come together and bring the whole community together. The rabbi did go to the Rubble Site this morning, to that pile. He said it was quite emotional. Hes also helping get some of those families there, he thinks its very important for them to be there. And hes also in touch with israels national rescue unit, which as you know, arrived today. They brought ten people. Earlier today we spoke with the minister for diaspora for the state of israel who is heading up that unit. He is also here at this Prayer Service. He says this is really a mission of solidarity, because the united states has helped israel so many times, they would like to return that favor. His team has also been meeting with the families in addition to digging on that site. I asked him, is there hope, does your team have hope . This is what he told me. There are no words, feel so sorry to see it. To me it Looks all dark. But im not an expert. So i was Looking at my friends, my colleagues who came from israel, and i Look at them and say, is there a chance . They say, nachman, were experts, let us try and do our best. We are always trying to be hopeful, we never lose hope. Never. Reporter and of course, wolf, i asked him where does this hope come from. He said 11 years ago they found someone buried in the rubble after 108 hours. So they will never give up hope, wolf. All right, randi, were not giving up hope either. Randi, Brian Todd, thank you. Joining us, charles burkett, mayor of surfside, florida. I understand there will be a briefing for the News Media coming up soon . Yes, weve been doing about two a day for the families. We had one for the families that waS Pretty emotional. We had i wouldnt say good news for them but we had supportive news for them in that the israeli Search And Rescue team had arrived, and i think that made a lot of those folks in that room feel a lot better. We also have a mexican team arriving i think its tomorrow. So we have a full complement of very experienced Search And Rescue people. We have waves of them going over that Rubble Pile right now. Its still nine confirmed dead, right . Im not really focusing on that. What im focusing on is the fact that we want to keep maximum pressure, maximum staffing, maximum rescue people on that mound Looking for people to pull them out alive. Do you still have hope . I expect miracles. Im expecting many miracles. Because, you know as a matter of fact i want to just remind you that i had sent our County Mayor an article from the bbc yesterday, an article that talked about people trapped under rubble, an article that talked about people who have survived up to 17 days under rubble. So given that, were very early in thiS Process. And were just you know, we need to focus on supporting the families and providing 100 attention to the rescue effort. And what are the regulation cuers, the Search And Rescue team members, who are heros in my perspective, going into that rubble, what are they telling you about your chances that more will be found alive . I think we all believe and expect miracles. We all believe and expect miracles just like the israeli representative said a few minutes ago. We do expect that miracle to happen. And many of them. And its going to continue, the Search And Rescue operation . Theres nothing else. Is there anything else you need . Good point. Weve got every resource we could ever want. Weve got the White House, weve got the state government, the governors, our two senators. Weve got our mayor. Weve got debbie wasserman schultz. Weve got everything we need and more. We just need some luck, and we had it. We were having the rains, we were having the fire. Those are both subsided, and now its 100 focused on getting those people out of there. I know youve been speaking with some of the Family Members who are so worried about their missing relatives, moms and dads, brothers and sisters. How are those sessions going, what are these folks saying to you . Weve heard some of them are obviously and understandably frustrated. They want answers. Theyre saying do more, please do more, please do more. Please put more people there. And, you know, the answer is, were doing exactly that. We have armies ready to go, 24 hours a day, seven days a week. Its not going to stop until we pull everybody out. Thats just the way its going to be. When we spoke yesterday, you said you would support Family Members, if they want, to go actually and see the site of that destruction, see the site. And today that happened. And i was very pleased that our mayor made that happen. The mayor of Miamidade County . The mayor of miamidade, mayor cava. To her credit, the families needed to be there and to say the prayers they said. Have you actually spoken to some of them since they visited the site . I havent, im going back right now. I have a Car Waiting to take me up there right now. Will you come back and tell us how theyre doing . If you like. We would be grateful. Okay. I know you have a lot going on. Its busy. Youve got a beautiful community here, unfortunately this has been a disaster. It has. Were so worried about the other buildings along the coast. Thats a whole other subject that we probably need to get into at another point. Good luck, and well stand by for the News Conference coming up this hour, around 5 30 p. M. If i get back, i will talk to you. I appreciate it. My pleasure. Well continue our special coverage here. Well stand by for the live News Conference as well. Meantime, jim, what can i say, you know miami, you know this whole area well. It is so, so heartbreaking to hear these stories, to meet with the families and to wonder and pray to god that some of their relatives will still be alive. Absolutely, wolf. And i know you know the area, you have connections down there. It must be so difficult being on the scene of this. But to see the mayor there talking to you just a few moments ago and seeing all of the resources being brought to bear to try to, you know, get any sign of a survivor in all of that wreckage, you know, our hats are off to all of them. And we hope that there is some kind of miracle in that rubble that is found very soon. Wolf blitzer, thank you so much. Well get back to you very shortly coming up. 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Congressman mo brookS Pedalled away. One republican did speak with me, Congressman Marjorie Taylor gr greene. For weeks she spread the baseless Conspiracy Theory that the fbi was involved in the capitol insurrection. I pressed her for evidence repeatedly and unsurprisingly, she didnt have it. When you Look at the video, dont you mainly see Trump Supporters . Well involved in the rioting . Theres all kinds of people involved in the rioting. ThereS People in black clothes, thatS People in red hats. There are oath keepers, people from the proud boys. Thats what weve read and seen, yes, and but theyve been arrested. Theyve been arrested, brought to court. Right, theyre being held, some of them, in Solitary Confinement, almost 24 hours a day in the jails here. But im wondering, so if theyre being held in jail, if theyre in Solitary Confinement like you said, where does this stuff come from about the Fbi And Antifa . Where are you getting that from . Were curious about that. If Theres Information that there may have been fbi operatives, we dont know what that means, right, is that informants, where does that where is the proof that the fbi was involved . Where is the proof that antifa was involved . Dont you owe it to people to produce that proof, that evidence . I dont owe it. I didnt cause the riot. I certainly dont owe it. If the fbi tells you, congresswoman, we didnt have any involvement in that, would you believe them . Well, im sure, yes, of course, if they say they werent and show proof they werent. Of course i would. You see, she didnt have any evidence that the fbi was somehow involved. But she said the fbi had to prove that they werent involved. Just wanted to make sure you were following that. I also asked the congresswoman about how Speaker Nancy Pelosis announcement that she will move forward on a select committee to investigate the insurrection. Lets watch. Would you like to serve on the committee . Sure, she should put me on the committee. That would be great, you know . And you would show up and ask questions . Absolutely. Of course i would. Ive worked hard All My Life and i would work hard there as well. Cnn political Commentator Margaret Hoover and senior political analyst John Avlon join me now. Whats your reaction, jon, to Marjorie Taylor Greene saying she would like to be on the select committee investigating January 6 . For obvious reasons, shes not going to be, because shes been part of the problem, not remotely part of the solution. There should be republicans on this committee. But they should be taken from the 35 republicans who voted to move the bipartisan committee forward, people who have had the courage to call out the Big Lie and think bigger than partisanship when it comes to an attack on our capitol. If youve been party to conspiracy theories, lies, and denialism like Marjorie Taylor Greene has, you have no credibility. You reap what you sow. Margaret, do you think some of those republicans who voted for a commission will actually be selected to be placed on that committee or will the republicans be under pressure from the trumpists and what not to not let that happen . Some republicans will be under pressure from the trumpists, jim. So was john katko, when he put 35 republicans in the House Of Representatives together, frankly a number that surprised many of us who were hopeful and quite gratified that that many republicans decided that this was imperative for the future of democracy and decided to stand up to the forces of trump within the party. I hope Speaker Pelosi puts republicans on that committee. John katko, liz cheney, any of those who voted. Kinzinger. Adam kinzinger. Theyre exactly the kind of republicans who can only be the only course forward for the future of the republican party. And john, lets switch gears. Former attorney general Bill Barr is quoted in a new Book Excerpt saying he suspected that President Trumps claims of widespread Election Fraud were, his words, all bullshit. This is not the first time weve seen Bill Barr push back on these claims. But what do we make of this attempt of Bill Barr here . Is this an image Rehab Tour . What do you think . In part, yeah. Its the beginning of a Rehab Tour. But i think the larger Cautionary Tale is that Bill Barr, from the time he lobbied for the job, in effect, through most of his time in the justice department, did everything he could to placate, to appease donald trumps worst instincts. He final Hit Something that was too far, a request to overturn an election. Thats a pretty low bar to show that youve got courage and cajones and constitutional fidelity. To his credit, he refused to play ball on that. We could have used that tough talk and that clear language a little bit earlier, but ill take it. For all the trumpers out there, you know, the question is, who are you going to believe . The michigan gop, Bill Barr, the intelligence community, or only donald trump, a person who has lied over 35,000 times in office . If you do believe only donald trump, what does that say about you . Yeah, and margaret, weve seen others, from Sean Spicer all the way to jared and ivanka try to distance themselves from trumps most heinous behavior. Do you think this is going to work . I mean, Look, everybodys actions, everybodys words, they speak for themselves. People will be judged at the end of their lives, in the context of their Legacy And Contribution to history, in the full context of their actions. Sometimes it takes a while for history to work itself out and for legacies to be resolved, such as harry truman, herbert hoover, were still working on that one, by the way. The people who defended trump, even after January 6, continued to make excuses and defend and support and associate themselves with him, theyll never escape that dark mark in our history, nor should they. Yeah, itS Part of all of their legacies. And republican Senator Mitt Romney made this analogy when he was asked about the former president s Chronic Push of the Big Lie. Lets listen. But i also think, frankly, jake, that here in the u. S. Theres a growing recognition that this is a bit like wwf, that its entertaining, but its not real. And i know people want to say, yeah, they believe in the Big Lie in some cases, but i think people recognize that its a lot of show and bombast, but its going nowhere. The election is over. It was fair. John, why dont more republicans sound like Mitt Romney . Well, because Mitt Romney is a person of deep faith who has a life beyond politics, who has shown a willingness not to be Cou Cowed by the short term political pressures or feardriven sort of cohorts that follow donald trump. Hes impervious to that kind of political pressure. That said, i think Theres Something important about what hes saying. The wwf metaphor, folks have made before. This is all performance, its bombast. Implicit in that, romney hears from a lot of his colleagues in the senate and the house, they know this is a lie but they know that the people eat it up. And so if youre someone at home who happens to believe the Big Lie still, understand that your representatives think youre a fool, they think youre easily fooled, they think youre a dupe. Thats the disgrace beneath this assault on democracy. The idea that theyre taking it seriously but not literally, this iS Performative, this is all a game, no. This is democracy. Margaret, a final thought from you. Look, jim, that analogy would have been fine but for January 6. After January 6, you just cant get away with it, because its not going nowhere, quote unquote, right . Testifying to a violent insurrection at the heart of our democracy in the Capitol Building of the united states of america. This man ignited a violent insurrection on the country and risks doing it again. Hes aggravating those same forces right now. He did it last night in ohio, and we watched him on television, all right . This is not necessarily going nowhere. And after 1 6, this has to be taken absolutely deadly seriously. This is not hearsay. Absolutely. And i will tell you, being at the White House all those years, i remember all of those times when people would say, oh, its just an act, dont worry, you know, Theres Nothing serious behind it. And of course it all led up to what we saw on January 6. And this notion that if we just wait it out, its going to go away, i think that history has shown us that its just not the case and we need Truth Tellers like yourselves. Margaret hoover, John Avlon, the hoovalon segment. We appreciate it. Next, an update on the Search And Rescue efforts, the Recovery Efforts after announcing earlier today that four more bodies had been pulled from the rubble. Well keep you posted on all those developments, coming up. True change starts from within. The allnew nx. Reimagined from The Inside Out to be more in tune with you. Start your day with Crest 3d white and from mochaccinos to merlot, to be more in tune with you. Your smile will always be brilliant. Crest 3d white brilliance. 100 stain removal, 24 Hour Stain Resistance to lock in your whitest smile. Crest. 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Meanwhile, crews going through the rubble recovered four bodies overnight, and more human remains, bringing the confirmed Death Toll now to nine, with more than 150 people still unaccounted for. Earlier today, families of the victims werale allowed to go vit the site. Ryan young is at the center, a few blocks away from here. Tell us about that visit. Reporter weve seen three different sets of buses go over to that scene. Every time they come back we see Family Members either Holding Hands or hugging each other. People are very upset. But they wanted to get the chance to go to that site. Well show you video of the people getting off the brus, soe of them embracing, some of them obviously distraught. They wanted to physically get to the site. They wanted to help, a, and b, they wanted to see it. Seeing that site itself and seeing how massive it is, you understand the undertaking that Law Enforcement and first responders are having to go through to not only secure the site but to remove the rubble. People are watching nonstop. Aerials have shown large pieces of debris being moved. At thiS Point the focus here is Family Members really feeling somewhat despondent at what theyve learned today, because theyve heard some of the terrible news about other ones being lost. But there is a sign of hope, because there are new teams that have joined this effort. And there are people here who have still not given up their faith that their Loved Ones will be found even days later. They are holding tight to that. But today, from here we have seen people in tears based upon some of the information theyre learning. We think there will be some new briefings soon with the families and of course the one thats coming up soon, wolf. Of course well have live coverage here on cnn on that as well. Ryan, thank you very much. Im joined now by kobe karp, a noted Architect And Florida resident who has been doing a lot of research on what happened here. You know this area well, kobe. I know youre also speaking to some of your colleagues who fully appreciate potentially what happened. Whats the latest information that youre coming up with . What im seeing is, number one, thank you so much for having me here, it means so much. This is a close building for our friends and our family. And by speaking to the people in the community, specifically other engineers and architects, everybody it Looking at this as a oneoff, unique situation. Even though this building is rather young, i was 18 years old when this building was being designed and built, we see it as a unique opportunity to create a better atmosphere and a better inspection so that people who sleep and live in the rest of the buildings feel safer and more calm at night, that their structures are safe and sound. What do you think of this requirement now that the City Of Miami is asking all buildings above six, seven stories, to go ahead and have a full Inspection And Report back to the city within 45 days . I think thats a phenomenal step in the right direction. I think those kinds of steps is what gives the people, the individual, a peace of mind, that their structure is safe for them to live in and to continue to sleep in. I think thats very important this time. So many of the residents here said over recent years in this building that went down, they did hear all sorts of cracking and weird noises and floodings, stuff like that. Could that have played a role . It could have. And these structures, as they get older, obviously have looser connections. And just like us, as we get older, we have our weaknesses. Its just that how do these weaknesses continue to be maintained. And we have to maintain, we have to waterproof, and we have to keep these structures very strong. Sometimes, as we see, people dont pay attention, they dont create enough value to that risk and that risk when it comes is sudden. Nobody was working on this structure at 2 00 in the morning. Nobody was cutting anything. Nobody was working on the roof. Whatever happened, happened 24 hours before or 24 months before. It happened over a certain period of time. And it just broke apart in the middle of the night. Because weve all seen the video, its only about 11 seconds. One part of the building goes down, then the other part of the building totally collapses. I know youve Looked closely at that video as well. Do you get any clues from Looking at the video of what might have happened . The video is taken from the east southeast corner, Looking to the northwest. What you see, whats interesting, is that the western side of the building is still standing. You see today, its still up. But that northeast you can see it right there, you can see whats going down. Right. The Northeast Piece is the one that fell down. It Looks like it fell at the core. The facade facing the ocean, facing east, is the last one standing and then falls upon itself. You can see how the gentle breeze from the ocean is blowing the dust away from the west. Im not an engineer, im just an architect, but i think you can Look at it and start to see the uniqueness of this, how it falls apart, and not the whole building fell apart, thank god, and just thiS Parcel that is connected at the main spine, because here in florida, we have the wind loads of the hurricanes. So our staircases and our elevators are the cores, thats where the reinforced concrete walls are. Thank you very much, kobi, we always appreciate your expertise, kobi karp, architect. Lets go back to jim. Thanks, wonderful. Former President Trump is back and so are his old lies. Our Donie Osullivan talked to some of the former president s supporters. Those interviews, still to come. Whats your name, sir . 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All of them, 2020, and the next one. Reporter he lost in 2020. No. Reporter do you think what happened on the 6th Of January was a stain on hiS Presidency . This was all staged, i truthfutruly believe that. Reporter what do you think caused the insurrection . I think a lot of it comes back to the democrats. Reporter the people indicted are all big Trump Supporters. Okay. Well see. Things come out. Reporter do you think the insurrection on January 6 was a stain on hiS Presidency . No. I think the fbi, the Corrupt Fbi was involved in it. Reporter how . Theres information coming out that theres a possibility. Reporter so jim, for folks keeping track there, first they blamed antifa for the insurrection, then black lives matter, and now apparently its the fault of the fbi. Of course thats a Conspiracy Theory being pushed by the likes of Tucker Carlson on Fox News and also i know you asked Marjorie Taylor Greene about her involvement in pushing that this week, jim. Thats right, donie, and Marjorie Taylor Greene did not have any answers, we pressed her repeatedly for evidence of this and she didnt have any proof to offer us. Let me ask you about the rally last night. You talked to so many of these Trump Supporters all of time, what was your sense of the rally . Does trump still command a large base of supporters who will show up in droves to see him . I was seeing some reports that people were starting to leave midway to halfway through the rally. What was your assessment of how things went down last night . Reporter yes, certainly in the leadup to the rally, folks getting there, there was a lot of excitement. But it was a very long day, waiting around, for a lot of these supporters, folks who showed up eight, nine, ten hours in advance, waiting in the sun. As we sympometimes see at trump rallies, trump tends to go on and on and folks dip out as the rally goes into its second hour. But Look, one thing that was universal, we spoke to more than a dozen people yesterday. Everyone we spoke to was convinced the election was stolen. Everyone we spoke to was convinced that it wasnt really Trump Supporters who were actually responsible for the insurrection. And some, most worryingly of all, jim, this is causing some concern in washington, d. C. , is that trump, he didnt do it too hard onstage but he has been hinting on right wing media and elsewhere that he might be reinstated, which of course is false, jim. Yes, donie, his supporters are being misled in such a danger and you say despicable way. You dont want to give too much airtime to it, but i think its a positive thing, to talk about these lies and for you to go out there and talk to folks and reveal what theyre feeling. Donie osullivan, thanks as always, great work, we appreciate it. Investors on Wall Street are hoping for good news. Here is your Before The Bell report. Reporter hi, jim. Hiring iS Picking up but the Labor Market has a long way to go. On friday the government releases the jobs report. The Unemployment Rate likely ticked down to 5. 7 , sold numbers, but the u. S. Economy is still down 7 Million jobs since the start of the pandemic. Fear of contracting the virus, a lack of childcare, and Breathing Space from those enhanced jobless benefits, they might be keeping workers on the sidelines. Fed chief Jerome Powell is optimistic that those issues will fade soon. Job gains should pick up in coming months as vaccinations rise, easing pandemicrelated factors currently weighing them down. Reporter investors are also watching for wage growth. If employers are paying a lot more to attract workers, that could signal inflation and potentially spook markets. For now, investors seem to think the fed is right, that any inflation is just temporary. Last week, both the S P 500 and the nasdaq Hit Record highs. In new york, im christine romans. 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Took me forever, but i finished it. And then i Looked along my bookcase and saw a publisher and i have a lot of their books. I thought, well, if i like what they publish, maybe theyll like what i write. In those days, you had to send a big thick manuscript off. I think it got picked up by the first publisher that it got sent to. 400 pounds. 400 pounds she got for that first book. How did i remember that . Anyway what was that book called . Was it the world is full of married men . Claudia was in bed. She was a very beautiful girl and she knew it. And david knew it. So everyone was happy. With me now is Jackie Collins Daughter tracy lerman. What was it like having the Jackie Collins as a mom . Well, you know what, the three of us, both my sisters and i get asked that all the time. She was extraordinary, actually. She was many, many things. She was certainly different. Thats for sure, you know, at school to pick us up in a 1965 mustang and a long fur coat. Everybody would Look at us and think, my goodness, who is that. Is that your sister picking you up . Yes, she was two very different people. You know, we grew up with Jackie Collins and that was mom, Big Hair and the whole thing. The other was a very down to Earth Mother who was very much available for us. Actually, i think thats why we wanted to make this film. Laura did an amazing job. Your mother considered herself a feminist, but her critics often dismissed her and her books. What was it like dealing with that . And what pearls of wisdom did your Mother Share with you . She was always critiqued by particularly men, who thought they were on a much higher moral ground than she was. What i learned from her certainly took from her was she had a great passion for what she did and she really respected her readers. She had 500 Million people read her books and thats no mean feat to do that. She never let them down. Those were her fans and she had great respect for them and she wanted to know who they were. She, i guess, learned that in spades, i would say. She was like a character in one of her books. What do you want audiences and all of her fans out there, especially young women who may be learning about her for the first time, what do you want them to take away from this film, which Looks amazing by the way . Oh good. Im so glad you think so. I would like people to come away and see how hard it is as a woman to hone your craft in the way that she did and to not be recognized for the amount of Energy And Tenacity she put into her books. You know, 35 books. She didnt take herself too seriously, butshe wanted to wri about it and entertain people and she did that fantastically, i would say. Looks wonderful. Tracy lerman, thanks so much for sharing those memories with us. Be sure to tune in lady boss, the Jackie Collins story premiers at 9 eastern Tonight on cnn. 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